IIIPro E4 four piston Brakes - A GREAT bargain, or a waste of money?? Initial Impressions // Review

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3 ай бұрын

After installing my new set of IIIPro E4 four piston brakes onto my Santa Cruz 5010 v5 for a little test/review session... I put this short "Review/First Impressions" video together for y'all. To give you a quick overview of the brakes and my initial thoughts on them before delving into a more in depth long term review.
These are well and truely a "budget" brake set. Availible from Amazon, e-bay and Ali express for a very good price. But the (at least in initial contact) seem to be a vrey well constructed and aesthetically pleasing product. Construction seems to be af a good quality. The brakes function very well and everything works as it should.
So let's see how things progress into the future with them.
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@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Thanx for swinging by folks... Pop a comment. Hit the like. Or Sub up... I'd appreciate it loads... :D

@LaurentiusTriarius 3 ай бұрын

I subbed, I run cheap Chinese parts on my trance x and Jeckyll with no shame... Check my comment for pads...

@cunning-stunt 3 ай бұрын

No instructions in the box, just random nuts bolts and bits. Just like Sram and Shimano then. Every time I buy their crap I need an internet connection and half an hour to search for the information on their website before finding a DIY installer video on KZfaq to tell me how to do it.

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

@@cunning-stunt Haha... I did foind it pretty frustrating to be honest... Which made me drag my feet with getting them installed. I didn't want to end up in a position where I had a ride planned and couldn't go because I needed to order fluids or something. But it all came together pretty easy in the end. So there is that...

@zydecbro Күн бұрын

like the vid bro, your humor is perfectly spot on👍🏻👍🏻

@ckMTB 3 ай бұрын

Great video Phil, I was looking forward to your review. As always an excellent edit mate. I know the noise of the brakes, when I had my SRAM brakes combined with the SwissStop discs I had the same noise. I'm glad you're generally happy and I'm looking forward to seeing the brakes in real life. Thanks for sharing and have a nice weekend. Ride on🤙

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Yeah man... Was pleasantly surprised with them. When you slap on a set of "un-known" brakes you're never sure what you're gonna end up with. And these work pretty dang well. So that's a good thing! :D

@nobrakes7247 6 күн бұрын

You can also get them with integrated brake sensors for e-bikes

@ReiDoesIt 3 ай бұрын

Awesome video. I like your video approach as well. 👌

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Thanx mate... I really appreciate that. Thanx for watching!! :D

@stillrocking 3 ай бұрын

what a nice edit phill!👌🏼👍🏽 The breaks are looking so good!I love the variety of colors. Because I love pimping my bike. 🤣🤣🤣🤷‍♂🤷‍♂✌🏻 Super cool video👍🏽

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Cheers Dani... People (me included) LOVE pimping their bikes... And their horses... :D

@bala_enduro 3 ай бұрын

Interesting review, the lever looks really good. I like it. 👍

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Cheers buddy!! :D Been liking these... A lot better than I expected!

@ermioneslesbiana7367 Ай бұрын

Waiting for purple pair, bought it yesterday for 59€ with brakepads replacement as a gift, they look awesome 🤑

@TrailTales Ай бұрын

Noice... They're a really nice budget set. work well and look good. Not too much to complain about with my set to be honest. Been pleasantly surprised... :D

@ermioneslesbiana7367 Ай бұрын

@@TrailTales im waiting for a enduro/fr frame that i bought for 400€, im building a 29" enduro bike, all parts from Aliexpress/Taobao, except zeb fork and float x2 shock, it will be fun 🤣

@TrailTales Ай бұрын

@@ermioneslesbiana7367 Eyyy... Sound nice mate... what fame you get?

@ermioneslesbiana7367 Ай бұрын

@@TrailTales The brand is Cooyes or Winbo, the frame model is CY-8 (its not in Aliexpress, only in Taobao and websites from China), its very similar to Canyon Torque, 170mm or 190mm travel with two options in shock (230x65 and 240x76), there you have other options of the same brand or other brand named Fastwork, all hosrt link frames

@ermioneslesbiana7367 Ай бұрын

@@TrailTales Cooyes CY-8, 170-190 rear travel (230x65 and 240x76), this brand doesnt sell in Aliexpress, they only sell in Taobao and on other chinese websites. This brand has other frames for 300-350€ (shipping cost apart) and another brand named Fastwork has many frames very similar to the other brand (Cooyes/Winbo)

@trailsturmer 3 ай бұрын

Nice Review! And also nice KZfaq Money House 😂😂

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Yeah man... I'm planning on having oyu guys round for beers sometime soon. But I can't let you into the actual house. I'm.... Urrr... Getting it painted... We have to chill in the gardens... Until the police come... Sometimes they come and make me leave my own house. It's really weird. I quite don't understand why... :D

@SomeGuy-mu9mt 2 ай бұрын

Fun video! Liked and subscribed.

@TrailTales 2 ай бұрын

Cheers mate... Appreciate the support... And thanx for the sub... :D

@SomeGuy-mu9mt 2 ай бұрын

@@TrailTales Welcome! All the best

@derfderf936 3 ай бұрын

I like the lever.. do u think it will be compatible to shimano mt400 caliper?

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

That I don' know... Sorry mate...

@BrandinBowler Ай бұрын

Do you know what options we have for mounting shifter and dropper to these levers? Are they sram mmx compatible?

@TrailTales Ай бұрын

I just pulled the SRAM "clips" off the brakes that came on my bike and swapped them over to the e4's. The fit isn't perfect - by that I mean it's a bit finickety but once the bolt it through, it fits together well. It has done the job well... And I have had no issues ...

@TobiB89 3 ай бұрын

The noise is probably coming from the pads, respectively the cooling fins on them. The pads that came on my Shimano XT brakes also had these fins and they made the exact same rattling sound. Changed the pads to a set without cooling fins and the noise is gone.

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Oh cool... I'll have a look into that mate... Thanx for the tip!! :D

@Laube92 3 ай бұрын

I also upgraded my Tektro M275 (they suck!) to the IIIpro e4 brakes. I tested them today and they are really powerful and Modulation is fine as well. Overall build quality and performance for price is incredible! Do you know which brake pads fit? I saw the Shimano xtr pads look pretty similar..

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

No... Unfortuanatels not. I did do a little looking for pads, but came up short. I still need to do a bit more searching. Sorry... And yes. So far I've been leasantly surprised with them. Thabx for watching!

@alextroche9453 15 күн бұрын

Late response, but for anyone else with the same question: I've heard that shimano m820 pads fit (the ones that they use for saint, zee, slx, xt, etc). Can't confirm just yet but the shape looks to be the same, and that pad seems to be a common choice for random brakes (surron, talaria, random aliexpress brakes, etc.)

@alexaltu5064 2 ай бұрын

For pads look for ZRACE M1 X4 Brake Pads, they are identical, or for HOPE E4 / M4 pads

@TrailTales 2 ай бұрын

Ah noice... Thanx mate!

@LaurentiusTriarius 3 ай бұрын

The iiipro E4's set I have for one of my bike use the M755-756 (deore xt) same as hope DH4...

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Cheers mate! That's good to know... I might just pop a pad at some point and head over t the bike shop and see what matches up. It's a good thing is common pads fit.

@ScoutsOut 3 ай бұрын

Yea dude they do look very well made 👌good review, ill take them in little pony red please lol

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Hahaha... Yeah Scout. The build quality is really nice. The only issue so far has been that adjustment screw niggle. But it was an easy fixand the brakes have performed really well since. I'll see how things roll over the next few months with them and how they perform after a rotor swap. But it's been a pretty good experience with them so far... :D

@iffy_too4289 3 ай бұрын

I recall looking at these brakes on Aliexpress, from what I can remember the pads are actually a Shimano 2 piston set. Just looked them up, they're listed as using Shimano B01S / B02S / B05S pads.

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Ah nice... Thanx for that... It'll make getting replacements a lot easier... :D

@thomaswayout9081 3 ай бұрын

not correct.

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

@@thomaswayout9081 thanx for the additional info...

@iffy_too4289 3 ай бұрын

@@thomaswayout9081 what do they use then. Just saying 'not correct' and leaving it there isn't overly helpful

@thomaswayout9081 3 ай бұрын

@@iffy_too4289 i posted the correct pads in the comments. current shimano 4-piston do not fir. you CAN make them fit using a file, but the placement will not be 100% right. hope m4 and xt755 are the same pad, and the pads you need for this caliper.

@JayRidesTrails 3 ай бұрын

Haha, you moved again! Impressive KZfaq money house! 😁👍

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Hahaha... Less stairs to carry my fridge up... Hahaha...

@Arbigale 2 ай бұрын

Will shimano pads be compatible?

@TrailTales 2 ай бұрын

That I don't know... There are pads available from Aliexpress I am told... But weather Shimanpo will work or not I am not sure...

@dalegreenaway Ай бұрын

Guys, does anybody know why there are two brake bolts on the caliper that both if removed leak mineral oil? I bled mine, that if you hold the hydraulic cable with caliper dangling I used the furthest bolt for the bleed ..

@TrailTales Ай бұрын

OK... I haven't had to bleed yet, so not looked into this. But I'll get to that soon enough. But thatnx for the heads up on the bolts. How did your bleed work out??

@dalegreenaway Ай бұрын

The front brake is solid, I bled the brake and even better and sharper with resin semi metallic brake. The rear brake the pre fitted hose to the back brake caliper had a very small leak, that was why my brakes kept squeaking. On the caliper there are two bleed screws, I think both need to be bled to get the calipers pushing outwards equally, as I noticed the pistons on the one side push out better than the other..... Find this odd and I may be wrong... But why are there the same bleed ports on caliper both with the same fitting...... Going to give it a go later and refit the hose olive etc and rebleed all screws and bleed ports. Will let you know.

@TrailTales Ай бұрын

@@dalegreenaway Nice work on the new pads... Might have to give some other pads a go as well... And not sure why there are two ports on the calipers... But I find it odd as well...

@dalegreenaway Ай бұрын

@@TrailTales they must be linked, as when I drained the one screw and removed all the oil, no oil came out of the other screw. They have to be connected like all other brands. Refitted the rear hydraulic cable having trimmed it, used a new olive and hose end spike thingie. Cleaned with degreaser and isopropyl and bled, brakes feel solid as before. Hope no more contamination. After front brake bleed yesterday, the front brake is beastly sharp literally locks and you skid lol. Added a new set of pads after cleaning rotors, degreaser and isopropyl and sandpaper.... Let's see! The squeak was bloody annoying. Hope it's gone now.

@dalegreenaway 2 ай бұрын

I just ordered a pair of the III Pro E4s boet! For my ebike, cant wait to try them out and bleed them a bit to see what kind of power i get out of them.

@TrailTales 2 ай бұрын

Noice... I have been impressedso far. For the price they have been a reqally good set. Let me know how you get on with them! :D

@alexperez4408 Ай бұрын

How are you bleeding them? I'm looking for a video. I only saw a top off video but not a traditional bleed.

@TrailTales Ай бұрын

@@alexperez4408 I haven't had to bleed mine yet... I'll get to that in a bit though... I was "lucky" with my installation and didn't have any issues connecting the rearrake line up. So I can't really comment on a full bleed yet. Sorry mate.

@alexperez4408 Ай бұрын

That's actually my experience also. I do feel like the rear brake has a little more squish than my front. But it's tough to say how much. It might be in my head. But overall I'm pleased. I mean I wouldn't mind having more bite for the skid.

@dalegreenaway Ай бұрын

I just wrote a long comment but it didn't post. My back brake is howling abit. Tried replacing and using degreaser, isopropyl and sandpaper on pads and rotors. The front brake is pretty good. For the price they solid but not perfect yet. The brake dials to bring brake lever in and out moves I notice after every ride.

@phil5073 13 күн бұрын

Is there an update report video?

@TrailTales 12 күн бұрын

Not yet. But I've swapped a few things up and testing them out. So far though... 4 months in.. still happy with the wah they work... and found replacement pads...

@WHTFSayonara Ай бұрын

Brakes are awesome. Pads that come with them suck. Replace then with Hope tech evo4 and you will love these. Insanely powerfull.

@TrailTales Ай бұрын

Ah cheers... I#ll have a look into those evo4's... Thanx for watching... :D

@FrANTiXzz 3 ай бұрын

I some how know the background at the beginning. Cant remember where it was

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Schloß Rotenfels... There's a couple of Poke-stops there. That probably why you recognise it... Hahaha

@thomaswayout9081 3 ай бұрын

pads are xt755 or hope m4

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Cheers for that mate. Good to know there are serveral options out there... Will make life a lot easier when they need replacing (if they stay on the bike...)...

@thomaswayout9081 3 ай бұрын

@@TrailTales I run the brakes on 2 bikes and zero intention to move away. Try combining the calipers with shimano servo-wave levers if you want a very powerful brake with pretty low pull force. I run mine with galfer rotors which seem to work pretty well with the calipers.

@LaurentiusTriarius 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@LaurentiusTriarius 3 ай бұрын

@@thomaswayout9081 I recently got the Lewis LH4, they are a bit more powerful but tbh the price difference might not be worth it

@v1ncen715 3 ай бұрын

I have seen these brakes on Aliexpress for a while, I think they do look good indeed. Chinese manufacturers have progressed a lot over the last few years. I think my next set is going to be something like this instead of spending so much on the big brands (and not getting so great results anyway)

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Yeah... I was pleasantly surprised with them. Good finish. Quality seems to be right up there... And they work well. They're not the best brakes you'll ever use. But a LOT better than what you'd think...

@v1ncen715 3 ай бұрын

@@TrailTales This is what I expect indeed. My next eBike build will have these or similar, as long as they use standard/easy to find breaking pads.

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

@@v1ncen715 For sure... I'll track those down before I do a "Long Term" review on these... A couple people have already put in alternatives in the comments. So replacements are out there...

@OAikoT 3 ай бұрын

Good review but what did you do in post production to make your video look so... bad? The vibrancy and fake sharpening make it look like 2010 video.

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

It's just a LUT I run over it... Nothing fancy...

@IPlayVidyaGames 3 ай бұрын

So these are just the Lewis brakes. So they(Lewis( are just shit white label off AliExpress but they charge an extortionate amount for. ?

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

Well... I wouldn't say an extortionate amount... And i MUCH prefer these the the GE2's that came with the bike (I just didn't get on with those brakes)... But they aren't as good as the Magura Trail Sports that are just a bit more expensive.

@ryan.k7256 3 ай бұрын

Definitely not the same as the Lewis's. Those are way better constructed than the Onirii. But for the price you pay for it, it's the best you can get, considering the machining and quality it has.

@TrailTales 3 ай бұрын

@@ryan.k7256 Thanx for the additions there mate. And yes... The machining quality (at least so far) is really good. They are a slick looking set of brakes...