DLO First Look: SAI 6 1-6x24

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DLO First Look: SAI 6 1-6x24

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Here is a First Look at a new scope from a new company: SAI 6 1-6x24 FFP
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It is a good quality Japanese scope with an unusual reticle, so a lot of the focus of this video is indeed on the reticle.

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@trickemdickem9114 3 жыл бұрын

Love that you show different ranges and magnification through the optics. Good stuff.

@blazinpond 3 жыл бұрын

Love your reviews and how you explain things. I took a chance and bought one which was delivered yesterday. I liked the first one so much, i immediately ordered another. Hope i don't regret. This package seems to work for me.

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You! That scope is really growing on me and I am glad you liked it too.

@prone_wolf8871 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review 👍👍

@navyman8903 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this video. I'm looking at this optic for a 14.5 inch AR15. You're the only one who did something in depth with this. I'm looking forward to any more input and/or content you have with this in the future.

@DarkLordOfOptics 2 жыл бұрын

I keep on stalling on the final review of this scope, but I really like it. So much so, I'll be adding it to my list of recommendations.

@navyman8903 2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics that's excellent news. Thanks for getting back to me and I'm looking forward to the review. I'm probably going to bump my Vortex 1-10 off my URGI onto another project and replace it with this.

@kevinb4655 2 жыл бұрын

@@navyman8903 Just ditched my Razor 1-10 for this on a 14.5". No regrets.

@StefanSu91 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinb4655 Do you know if the distance drops are accurate on the 14.5? I have a 14.5 too but I want the numbers to actually match the drop... shooting 77 grain but also 60s sometimes. No 55.

@kevinb4655 2 жыл бұрын

@@StefanSu91 They were accurate enough for me to make hits on steel to 500 using them with Hornady 75gr Frontier and Speer 75gr Gold Dots. 60s I'm not sure.

@uwe6102 2 жыл бұрын

It's been a while since your review. I'd be happy, If you could answer my following question, please? I am currently thinking of buying either the Delta Stryker HD 1-6x24 or the SAI 6 1-6x24. I have a problem with BDC reticles because they only fit for a certain ammunition and barrel length. On the other hand, I don't like SFP reticles because they only work in one resolution (usually max) and I don't want to convert MILS when stressed. But most importantly, I am looking for optical quality at a reasonable price! Edge sharpness, distortion-free imaging and brightness are important to me. With this in mind, which of the two scopes would you choose? Thanks a lot!

@DarkLordOfOptics 2 жыл бұрын

That's a tough call. I am not a big fan of BDC reticle either, so I have been trying to convince the folks at SAI to add a small mrad tree reticle option, but no luck so far. The choice between Stryker and SAI6 really comes down to what's more important for you: up close or distance. On 1x, I think Stryker is the faster scope. However, once you extend the distance, SAI6's FFP reticle with wind holds works better. Optically, both are pretty good. Maybe a slight edge to SAI6.

@uwe6102 2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics Thanks a lot for your reply. For really close range from 5 to 25 m, I‘d go for an offset mounted Aimpoint. So the scope is used for all distances after 25 m. The wind holds are great on the SAI, but it still has this awful BDC. Furthermore, I suggest a FFP makes sense for shooter who reach out most of the time 100 m + but for closer range and around the 100 m mark a SFP is a bit faster and you also have the better price point. Which means a FFP reticles would make more sense on a 1-8 or 1-10, since you‘d probably use it on longer distances.

@nasdaqgabe8020 2 жыл бұрын

DLO, focal plane aside which would you prefer between sai and the razor iie for optical quality, durability. Thx in advance

@DarkLordOfOptics 2 жыл бұрын

Durability is hard to say until a significant number of SAI scopes make it out there. Razor Gen2 has been around for a while and we know it is very robust. Optically, they are pretty close to each other. Razor probably has a slight edge on low power.

@pd5156 3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why no full MIL crossfire. That would be something I'm looking for. I would like to see for example delta stryker 1-6 with hornet ddmr reticle and horseshoe from ddbr :P Oh, and I forgot fast ranging from primary arms or this scope woould be great as well... Apparently if somone is into precision shooting has to purchase Razor Gen3 1-10

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

I am sure they are talking to some LE or military customers and they always ask for BDC.

@pd5156 3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics BDC for 55 grainers. Who in right mind in the LE or Military is using 55 over 77 :D If I only had enought money we could design and manufacture perfect scope :)

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

@@pd5156 This particular BDC is designed for the 62gr ammo, I believe. In practical terms, nearly every BDC out there is either designed for 55 or 62gr 5.56, since these scopes are viewed as general purpose AR-15/M4/M16 scopes. The VAST majority of shooting is done with those. Interestingly, if you are careful about sight in, bullet drop between commonly used 55gr, 62gr and 77gr is very similar out to 650-700 yards. The differences in wind holds are fairly significant, but the reticle in SAI6 has mrad dots in the tree, so that is sorta accounted for.

@Mickey-hf4bq 3 жыл бұрын

Any word on the battery life? I've looked at the spec sheet on their website but haven't been able to find anything.

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

Have you tried reaching out to them? They would have the official numbers

@Mickey-hf4bq 3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics I sent them an email, but they haven't got back to me.

@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919 Жыл бұрын

How well would this because reticle work with a 14.5” ar using 62-77gr ammunition? I’m new to this so forgive my ignorance

@DarkLordOfOptics Жыл бұрын

With any BDC reticle you will need to know how to use a ballistic calculator to make sure you know what the holds are with your ammo and in your environmental conditions. It is generally set up for 62gr SS109 out of a 14.5" barrel out to 500 yards. With 77gr, it will be a little different, but perfectly manageable.

@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919 Жыл бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics thank you very much my friend I really appreciate your reply

@adams9982 2 жыл бұрын

I just found your review @darklordofoptics thank you very much for the content. It’s been some some since your initial review. Has either the Tango6t FFP or the Si6 grown on you have you found you’re reaching for one vs the other. I was initially leaning towards the Sig but a main concern is the Sig warranty is only two years. Help me choose?

@DarkLordOfOptics 2 жыл бұрын

Both are pretty nice. I ended up keeping the SAI 6 since it is a little lighter and I like the reticle a little more.

@adams9982 2 жыл бұрын

Does the SAI6 have an etched zero line like the Sig for alignment with your mount? I’ve picked up a Geissele 1.93 30mm 1x6 (vortex sopmod mount) that will pair nicely with either. Did the Sig come with any tenebrex covers/caps? Thanks again!

@DarkLordOfOptics 2 жыл бұрын

@@adams9982 Sig did not come with caps. SAI comes with Tenebraex caps and a honecomb killflash. I did not pay too much attention to alignment lines on the body of the scope, but I do not think SAI6 has those.

@adams9982 2 жыл бұрын

It seems both have many pro’s and a few cons. I also like the SIA 6 reticle and the fact that the makers of Elcan are behind this scope. For all I know the same company could be making both of the them and just beefed up the Sig internals for the military. The Sig with added caps is definitely going to be 3-400 more based on what I’ve seen out there on cost. Thanks again

@adams9982 2 жыл бұрын

One more question; where’s your go to place To buy optics? For either the Sig Tango6t FFP and the Sia6?

@DarkLordOfOptics 2 жыл бұрын

For SAI 6 (that's the one I ended up keeping), prices are consistent across the board, but not that many people carry it, so I usually go to Europtics for that: bit.ly/3mOjBoE

@adams9982 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Is EuroOptic owned by Optics Planet? Or, are they the same company? I’ve purchased from optics planet before.

@DarkLordOfOptics 2 жыл бұрын

@@adams9982 No. Completely separate company.

@josiahb55 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting new optic. Interested in on your opinion, is the delta stryker 1-6 still the best buy for a top optic on a budget?

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

That depends on your application. Generally, yes.

@josiahb55 3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics Would you say the Tango 6T 1-6 generally speaking is a better optic than the delta Stryker 1-6. I know there a differences in focal planes and nuances. But if money wasn't an option, is the Sig superior or are they really close? I've had my eye on the Tango 6T but own the Stryker now and was wondering how close they actually were. Thanks DLO

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

@@josiahb55 Because of different focal planes, it is not a simple answer. Optomechanically, there are some similarities. Stryker is likely a touch better up close. FFP Tango6t is better at distance.

@josiahb55 3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics Thank you so much, just saved me a bunch of money! :)

@Zekers7 3 жыл бұрын

How does this compare to the delta stryker?

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

That’s a little of an apples to oranges question, because one is SFP and anothe is FFP. both are quite nice. Delta is a touch faster up close. SAI has an edge at distance.

@johncole2744 3 жыл бұрын

Hows the eye box forgiveness?

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

Very good. It is an exceptionally easy scope to get behind.

@slamfire5382 3 жыл бұрын

I wish the illumination was better

@liaochris4438 3 жыл бұрын

Is this daylight bright? same with razor?

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

It is daylight visible, but not daylight bright. The illumination technology is different from the Razor.

@mc-sillix961 3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics is it good to go on sunny days/deserts?

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

@@mc-sillix961 The illumination is not super bright, so it does not really stand out all that much during a full sun day, but the reticle design even without illumination is very nicely visible. I live in New Mexico, so there is not shortage of sunny days here and it works well for me.

@emtothedee 19 күн бұрын

Any reason to get this over a plx c?

@DarkLordOfOptics 19 күн бұрын

That's a bit of a tough call. SAI6 is a little less money and the reticle is simpler to use. PLxC reticle (FFP version) is polarizing. Some people love it. Some hate it. I am sorta in between. I figured out how to use PLxC Meters reticle somewhat effectively, but the other two did not work for me at all. With SAI6, I can get a simple FFP MRAD reticle that does not do anything exotic, but does everything I need. In the end, I use both. I have a PLxC with meters reticle and three SAI6 scopes (5.56 BDC reticle, MRAD with X-wing and simple MRAD). Both are pretty good optically, weigh within an ounce of each other and hold up mechanically.

@emtothedee 19 күн бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics wait, sai 6 has different reticle options?

@DarkLordOfOptics 19 күн бұрын

@@emtothedee alnk.to/bisXs6X

@emtothedee 19 күн бұрын

@@DarkLordOfOptics aw they don’t make the mrad in brown darn. That’s good info though thank you

@DarkLordOfOptics 19 күн бұрын

@@emtothedee My favourite version of SAI6 overall is the one with the mrad reticle and RAF feature alnk.to/a43EArh

@linkchen8245 3 жыл бұрын

Price is similar to A Razor gen2 1-6, maybe lighter? I really like the reticle thou, especially that hit mark LOL Thanks for reviewing !!! found this at edgun west, a russian LPVO ?www.edgunwest.com/store/optics/item/dedal-nv-dhf-1-7x24-ffp/

@DarkLordOfOptics 3 жыл бұрын

Razor Gen2 is SFP. This one is FFP. I’ll have a discussion of Dedal scopes during a livecast tomorrow.