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We're back in the shop today and finding more ways we can improve the space with organization. I've always had issues with using my planer and it sounds like a lot of others do as well. So I built this planer cart with dust collection to make it SO much easier.
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@aeonspast
@aeonspast Жыл бұрын
The Linus comment threw me for a loop. Not the crossover I would expect but one I'm definitely here for. They DO have a lot of stuff to build in their new lab building...
@makerblake
@makerblake Жыл бұрын
haha I loved the Linus reference too!
@chaossdragon
@chaossdragon Жыл бұрын
Yup! was eating lunch and damn near covered my monitor in chicken salad...
@Zerocool-kb4ej
@Zerocool-kb4ej Жыл бұрын
Maybe they can start a new channel.."i like to drop stuff"
@MiWill1988
@MiWill1988 Жыл бұрын
Make this collab happen!
@Daphoid
@Daphoid Жыл бұрын
As an IT guy first and not even close to a woodworker at all, just someone who likes tools and watching people be creative - I am also here for it. Now, if say Bob, John Malecki, Johny Builds, etc went visiting the shop to collab on creating stuff. That would be awesome. But the crossover of woodworking and tech youtubers may not be as frequent. Luckily bob's done a few things with Rob Scallon from my other side hobby, music :)
@MrErViLi
@MrErViLi Жыл бұрын
Instead of those rollers for the out feed supports, you can just adjust the height of the whole thing to make the bed level with your table saw and it's out feed table. Then you don't have to pull out the portable supports and you'll have much more stability.
@feuby8480
@feuby8480 Жыл бұрын
Yep that's what I though initially. I'm gonna remake my workshop one day (not so far) and i'm planning to have all worksurfaces same level to get more infeed/outfeed as needed. I saw it on some other youtubers, and found it really, really forward looking.
@StoneyMeyerhoeffer
@StoneyMeyerhoeffer Жыл бұрын
I get wanting there to be a longer completely flat feed surface, but it won't get rid of snipe. Snipe is because the planer crushes the board with rollers, one each on either side of the cutter head. This presses the board against the surface just under the cutter head. This is why you need a sled if you're trying to joint boards on your planer. The snipe you get at the end of your board is because at the end of the cut the board is under just the cutter head and the outfeed roller. The sudden unequal pressure change when the board comes free from the infeed roller causes it to rock up ever so slightly under the pressure of the outfeed roller. Boom. Snipe. No amount of perfect infeed and outfeed surfaces, support, etc. will fix it.
@Ryj1987
@Ryj1987 Жыл бұрын
You could turn that trash can into a cyclone dust collector. That way all the chips stay in the trash can and don't blow all around on the inside of the cabinet (and into your shop if the door blows open).
@bertaboy
@bertaboy Жыл бұрын
How much of the waste that comes out of a planer or a jointer is the really fine particles, though? I would keep the air flow and just put an extra air filter on the exhaust if I did any modifications
@hansangb
@hansangb 7 ай бұрын
I don't think it'll be worth it given how much you'll lose in terms of chip capacity. Also since fine dust isn't much of an issue for the planer.
@anthonydiberardino9548
@anthonydiberardino9548 7 ай бұрын
@@hansangbi recently built a cart with this style dust collection and i needed the cyclone air movement just so the large chips stayed in the can. Otherwise the chips just seem to bounce out of the can and landed inside the box. And any chips that settled in the can would be agitated back into the air when the planer is turned on. My solution was to use the cans lid with pvc elbow to replicate the tickler 10 gallon can separator.
@hansangb
@hansangb 7 ай бұрын
@@anthonydiberardino9548 Yeah, I can see that. I was wondering how one would stop blowing of the chips. Cyclone would be a great solution but again, don't know if it's worth the loss of capacity (height wise)
@anthonydiberardino9548
@anthonydiberardino9548 7 ай бұрын
@@hansangbso the height that it takes up is a little bit larger than the height of the lid. I cut two holes in the lid and used the smallest 2” elbow cause i used 2 in pvc over the 3in. And put the elbows inside the lid pointing clockwise. So I’m using a 20 gallon trash can when height wise a 32 gallon would fit. But with the 32gallon can i couldnt get any of the chips to stay in or come up with any thing that was thin enough to fit.
@murphymmc
@murphymmc Жыл бұрын
One of the cyclone type lids for garbage can dust collection may help with the chips staying in the can. It would at least not blow the exhaust air right at the bottom pushing chips out of the thing. I'd lose the goofy fins inside the original fitting that are supposed to keep larger chips from being blown out, (like you want them to get caught and block the opening?)
@Rouverius
@Rouverius Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was typing a similar idea but saw your comment. So, I just made a silly Back to the Future quote🤷‍♂
@jcuhl387
@jcuhl387 Жыл бұрын
I tried that… the fan on that Dewalt is so strong that it blasted the lid off the can an into my neighbors yard
@Bikeeast
@Bikeeast Жыл бұрын
The fins are in the outlet to keep fingers out, not bigger chips in. That fan is spinning at ~10k rpm, it is plastic, but it would still chew up fingers. I have my DW735 blowing into a Thien separator to collect the chips. Works great. There looks to be enough room that bob and crew could build one right into the cart.
@crazyliclay
@crazyliclay Жыл бұрын
I really like this style of editing where the like bloopers after included in the actual video. Makes it feel more like a group of friends just hanging in the shop building stuff!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
We're a pretty fun group
@SouthernStyleDIY
@SouthernStyleDIY Жыл бұрын
Cool idea! I really like the subtle design in the paint. Helps break up the color a bit. Also, great idea to have the dust collection separate from a dedicated system. That's really nice for those of us who don't have dedicated systems.
@shaunfather
@shaunfather Жыл бұрын
"meighan made me paint it" - that's awesome
@pjkoths
@pjkoths Жыл бұрын
Great video, however I would have liked to see the planer actually working with the dust collection box and also see the inside after some heavy use. Good concept but not worth the expense without more info on final results. Perhaps a follow-up video after you have used it for awhile.
@markisom78
@markisom78 Жыл бұрын
You can also do what I did to my Dewalt planer, and that is replace the knife cutter head with a helical cutter head. It's definitely worth it in terms of dust collection because it makes much smaller chips and it does make a nice finish on your boards. The one major flaw I know of on this planer is the amount of horsepower it has. Figure out a way to improve that if you can
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 Жыл бұрын
The other big issue with the 735 is it eats blades. It's expensive, but the Shelix really helped there, and also made it a bit quieter. Well worth it if you plan to keep the planer.
@83BeachBum
@83BeachBum Жыл бұрын
Should cut a hole in the lid the can came with to put the hose in so it doesn't blow chips/saw dust all over the inside of the box.
@A6Legit
@A6Legit Жыл бұрын
Yes, although the lid would also need some type of venting. It already blows the door open on the cabinet. Restricting air flow probably defeats the purpose of the blower on the dust exhaust. Seems like it'd be better using the dust collection system imo
@tylerneumayer9858
@tylerneumayer9858 Жыл бұрын
Me waiting for the plans patiently, impatient. Already have my brother in law with a 3D printer looking into printing the coupler. This has given me the solution to the problems I have with this planer in my little basement shop! Thank you!
@forby_
@forby_ Жыл бұрын
I'll let you know when they're ready 😉
@Some_Disassembly_Required
@Some_Disassembly_Required 4 ай бұрын
I just finished building a pretty close version of this cabinet, and instead of printing a coupling, I just used a piece of the 4" dust collection hose to hold the 90 degree elbow to the chip fan shroud. Works like a charm!
@Devin_Perkins
@Devin_Perkins Жыл бұрын
So is the next video you adding an arduino powered "bin full" sensor that triggers a light on the outside?
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
not a bad idea
@festival3rocker
@festival3rocker Жыл бұрын
I've seen that on the Oneida dust collectors, but for those of us who arent able to have one, that'd be a cool project that would DEF be useful!
@keepingjohnbusy
@keepingjohnbusy Жыл бұрын
Do that for all the bins, connect those lights to a center panel you place at say, main lights witch so at a glance you can see if anything is full/needs replacing
@festival3rocker
@festival3rocker Жыл бұрын
@@keepingjohnbusy BRILLIANT!
@jcuhl387
@jcuhl387 Жыл бұрын
I like the cart idea. 2 suggestions… use a rockler dust collection bag in the stand instead of the trash can (it’ll catch everything with no dust). And consider using a magnetic level to flatten the tables. It the level will pull the tables into alignment while you tighten them down
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
You're just so much better off with a longer auxiliary table than those fold down wings it's not even funny. I wouldn't even dream of using a thickness planer without the table in it. The difference is that huge. Those wings just suck ass. I really don't care how they're adjusted. They blow goatse in comparison to the auxiliary table.
@davewilliams8050
@davewilliams8050 Жыл бұрын
I made a stand for this planer based on a Rockler free Dust Separator cabinet plan. I use a shop vacuum (130 CFM) to pull the chips and dust thru the unit. It has a large drawer for chips and a smaller secondary drawer for finer particles. Some dust is collected by the vacuum but not much. I when the large drawer is full the smaller drawer is only a quarter ful or so. I also use the casters you used for your project for a lathe stand and a heavy workbench. Keep the video's coming.
@gadgetmerc
@gadgetmerc Жыл бұрын
I really wanted to see the dust storm inside that box.
@legato0666
@legato0666 Жыл бұрын
Same. I am not sure how big the chips are coming from the planer but I have a feeling that there is going to be a lot outside of the can. Might need a lid or something with the filter to keep them contained, but still better than nothing.
@christopherpope6396
@christopherpope6396 Жыл бұрын
I would have guessed one would need to have a lid for the can, cut a hole in said lid, then attach hose to it. Though, im not sure off hand if the tool would produce enough air to just blow the lid off.
@Ekrindul
@Ekrindul 4 ай бұрын
I've built a similar container for mine. It's a huge mess everytime I've had to empty it.
@Some_Disassembly_Required
@Some_Disassembly_Required 4 ай бұрын
I just finished building a pretty close version of this planer stand, and after testing it out, all the chips landed outside of the can. lol.
@RoxaneJ14
@RoxaneJ14 Жыл бұрын
I love how you took the opportunity to fix issues that other people had as well !
@benjaminreinhardt259
@benjaminreinhardt259 Жыл бұрын
I found a t shirt makes a great filter for the top of the trash can. Stretch the bottom of the shirt to fit the top of the can, zip tie the hose into a sleeve, and zip tie the other sleeve and neck shut. Chips go in the can and the air is filtered through the shirt. Not HEPA grade, but collects the mess.
@DudeSawdust
@DudeSawdust 5 ай бұрын
Thanks to you I tried your idea and it works perfectly! I used an old T-shirt and secured it with a cargo strap, then I used zip ties to secure the sleeves, and 2 zip ties to secure the head to the hose. Amazing! I built the cart and THEN learned the dust collection was deeply flawed. Then I came here to read everyone's comments hoping to get some ideas on solution. Thanks a million! I made a video about it and it will be coming out soon on my KZfaq Channel. Make sure to watch because I will give you credit.
@benjaminreinhardt259
@benjaminreinhardt259 5 ай бұрын
Glad I could help. I don't remember where I got the idea, but I'm sure it was someone else on KZfaq. Keep an eye on the t shirt, it likes to fly off the can every now and then. I too scrounge KZfaq for ideas for months, as I spend a lot of time in hotel rooms working out of town, before I do a project.@@DudeSawdust
@MrTheHerder
@MrTheHerder Жыл бұрын
Just a hint for people who may be thinking about replicating this at home. A 4" street 90 deg (Flair one side no flair on the other) fits perfectly into that exhaust on the planer so you don't have to 3d print the adapter.
@AnthonyRose
@AnthonyRose Жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
Nice!! Wish I'd known that earlier :)
@MrTheHerder
@MrTheHerder Жыл бұрын
@@Iliketomakestuff I got it thinking I'd do similar to you and print a bushing and use the slip end for my DC hose. Got lucky and it fit the other way around.
@necrojoe
@necrojoe Жыл бұрын
I wish that port on the planer was more robust. I've broken two, just from extra stress on it with that 90 degree piece acting like a lever.
@andrewpinson1268
@andrewpinson1268 Жыл бұрын
Thank, I was hoping someone had an alternative idea on that.
@r7j7t7
@r7j7t7 Жыл бұрын
I opted to put mine on a fliptop table with my rigid spindle/belt benchtop sander on the opposite size. Don't remember where I got the plans but it has a drawer on the bottom to put the infeed and outfeed tables, extra blades, and all the accessories for the sander that you can no longer put in their usual spots....because they don't stay upside down. As for dust collection, I haven't dealt with it. I connect to my dust collector and have gotten good at remembering to turn the dust collector on first or it blows the top off of the dust deputy. I also have a pretty big wing span so most of the time I can reach over an lift up the hose without much of a problem.
@jeskobendmann5166
@jeskobendmann5166 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the synching of the plop with the music at 7:57! Chefs kiss for the editing! :)
@ivanmirandawastaken
@ivanmirandawastaken Жыл бұрын
Heavy tools are the worst! I've picked up a couple of ideas for my shop already 😉
@PhaseLotA
@PhaseLotA Жыл бұрын
Love the added sound effects and editing. Gave me a good chuckle. I think I've found what I like most on this channel though: It's the videos where you're fixing a problem of some kind. It's fascinating to see it overcome, and we learn loads of little techniques on the way.
@dmann579
@dmann579 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I am starting to use my DeWalt surface planer, and was running into similar problems with dust collection and leveling the infeed/outfeed tables. Brilliant fixes - I'll try them both with my setup. Thanks a million!!
@RyanPizzuto
@RyanPizzuto Жыл бұрын
Woah... I made it into a ILTMS video. Achievement unlocked!
@bobbenzuly7893
@bobbenzuly7893 Жыл бұрын
Great ideas and execution! Also liked many of the comments. One thing that I found on mine is the amount of static electricity build-up in the collection bucket if I've been planning a lot. I grabbed a length of ground wire (#14 or #12), stripped the end of it the height of my bucket and stuck it in there. The other end is connected to an electrical box, conduit connector, or other metal that I know is grounded. No more static build-up!
@1975CMS
@1975CMS Жыл бұрын
Very innovative design. That must be the reason 1000s of woodworking including myself did this years ago. Still a classic.
@thisisbethm
@thisisbethm Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the “Lift with your back, not your knees.” It made me giggle because my dad would always say that when lifting heavy things. (He died a year ago today, so it’s been a bittersweet day, and watching this video was a delight.)
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss Beth, but I hope we brought a tiny tiny bit of fun to the day 👍🏼 -Bob
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
Strong backs are what make the world go round.
@DeanCovert
@DeanCovert Жыл бұрын
A+ fantastic work all around, a ton of jokes, references, and subtle self promo with great pacing, music, and sound effects. 11/10 would watch more shop infrastructure builds in the future!
@bertaboy
@bertaboy Жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice box, and I hope you get lots of use out of it! I also appreciate all of the comments suggesting to over-engineer the thing. It looks like you found a good balance of utility vs theoretical improvements!
@JennieClagettGray
@JennieClagettGray Жыл бұрын
I just had 4 different men ask me if I needed help as I stood in Lowe’s plumbing aisle as I tried to figure out which pieces of pvc pipe I needed for this! 😂
@thenext9537
@thenext9537 Жыл бұрын
You really need to spend a few hours with it and test. Trust me. Dry lube the screws that raise it up (raise it all the way up to max, lube it) lower it down. Do it again, up down. Then raise beds on the OUTSIDE all the way up. The inner part that goes to the main bed - have that lip be even. Use a flashlight to see. The main issue with the 735, other planers that use a roller system - you have two rollers like this O_O , the Os are the roller, the _ is the bed. When wood goes in, it presses it down flat. When it comes out of the LAST ROLLER, any weight on front of wood will angle it UP and you’ll hear that bzzzzzzt on last 2” for snipe. Use sleds if any cup or bow twist is present. Ditch the hot glue. Just use shims and some cheap masking tape (it’s only on for a few anyway). Feed at an angle. So 13” I’ll feed wood in at a slant like / vs straight in - that will help with blade wear. I have the 3 blade and it’s been fine. I’ve done a few pallets of walnut so far and other than some very fine lines that can be sanded out, been great. Unless you have super burly curly wood with crazy grain going everywhere, the dimensioning setting is fine. I only use the fine setting if I’m moving to finish sanding. Feed every piece twice. Forward backwards. When you flip, do again. Trust me. Don’t bother building fancy tables to outfeed too. Simply just feed it, when it’s almost halfway, go to outfeed and supper piece as it comes out. Not lifting, not letting down, just keep it as it is, maybe a tiny bit of upwards force. Also, if you bought this, then use it. Put it on a stand with caster stands that can stabilize it. Working on the ground is STUPID. You’ll hurt your back and it’s just bad practice. Figure out a solution and implement it. Not that I’ve tested 100s of board feet learning this before I did my first planing on some walnut. No sir, not at all. 😅
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
I you are going in to the end grain then pull the screws out and then drill out 3/8" hole and insert some dowel with glue then pre drill a hole and reinstall the door. This should help keep that area stable.
@fredzimmerman4637
@fredzimmerman4637 Жыл бұрын
I agree with some of the other commenters to just use a dust collection bag. I have the same planer sitting on a cart with the bag hanging underneath with flex hose in between. I imagine the inside of your cabinet will be a huge mess after using it a few times & need to be swept out periodically vs just disconnecting a bag & dumping it.
@champ5478
@champ5478 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest putting in a sheet or two of acrylic in the box so you can see when the bin is full. Only a suggestion.
@An_Engineers_Approach
@An_Engineers_Approach Жыл бұрын
Drops the castor -> Linus That cracked me up...
@furfoxsake
@furfoxsake Жыл бұрын
Adding a helical head would definitely quiet the machine down quite a bit. Did it to mine and I love it.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
I actually have one from Byrd tool.. works great, but still loud.
@neumero4te
@neumero4te Жыл бұрын
That’s weird.. I got a Lux cut and you can almost talk over it now.
@matthysloedolff
@matthysloedolff Жыл бұрын
It looks like you had a lot of fun building and designing this cart. I think the only way you can really cut down on the noise is by having this planet inside a box. But then you won't be able to use it. Best alternative is to ask everyone to cover their ears. I really like how simple and approachable this project is.
@quadsquadracingable
@quadsquadracingable Жыл бұрын
I put my dust collection hose on the opposite side from the height wheel. That way the side I work on is cleaner from obstruction
@smurfy9936
@smurfy9936 Жыл бұрын
If that dust collector on the machine has so much airflow to open the door all the wood chips dropping into the bin are just going to be blown out of the bin as well. I would recommend cutting a few holes into the lid of the bin, 1 entrance hole and 2 or 3 venting holes with a mesh or some other sort of filter so that the chips stay inside the bin instead of blowing everywhere inside the box. Other than that, great video!
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 Жыл бұрын
Its heavy because its a beast of a planer. Nice dust collection solution. Can't do this with any other planer - another reason for some of the weight and its totally worth it. great video !
@sapelesteve
@sapelesteve Жыл бұрын
Nicely done Bob! I would add some triangular pieces glued to each of the inside top & bottom corners of that cabinet for added strength. You could also add a cyclone type lid to the collection can and attach the outflow hose to it. Just make sure to allow for air circulation. 👍👍👏👏🔨🔨
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
If he glued those edges before he screwed it together it's never coming apart. PVA glue is stronger than wood is.
@philipegge392
@philipegge392 Жыл бұрын
Hello ILTMS team, Love the collection idea, one addition I think would be great is adding stretchy net or sock material over the trash can, it can be connected to the inside hose and fitted over the can , would help with keeping most of your material actually being collected into the can and not blowing out into the box when your bin is half way or so full. Love watching your vids
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea! Thanks!
@justintomer2567
@justintomer2567 Жыл бұрын
A good way to reduce the noise of the planer much more significantly is to swap the cutter out for a helical head. It has a bunch of other benefits over traditional planer knives too.
@bytesizedengineering
@bytesizedengineering Жыл бұрын
I will be making this for my planer. Thanks ILTMS!
@callumrussell
@callumrussell Жыл бұрын
Could you take the lid of the bin. Flip it over. Cut a hole in it. Then place it on top of the bin and feed the tube through it to help better contain the dust inside the bin? You would probably need some sort of strap to stop it being blown off by the extractor.
@fullertonwoodworks
@fullertonwoodworks Жыл бұрын
Love this idea! I’ve been looking for a practical way to improve my chip collection without bogging down the shop vac.
@stonee1968
@stonee1968 Жыл бұрын
Looks great! Only one last problem not solved....being able to afford the planer.
@edwarddrost5299
@edwarddrost5299 Жыл бұрын
Lots of projects to sell at stupid prices, using cheaper tools, then you can afford the big toys.
@andrewbrown8148
@andrewbrown8148 Жыл бұрын
Good video/project, Bob~! I have a Dewalt lunch-box planer, but I need something like this for mine. Also heavy. Around my shop, I use the same style casters ($$$) that you do and to avoid buying a set for everything that I want to be mobile, I installed caster mounting plates (by Rockler) on anything that is or might be mobile. These plates make quick work of relocating the casters between tools when I need to relocate something in the shop, like my assembly table. Works great~!
@JuniperandSixth
@JuniperandSixth Жыл бұрын
The quiet Wilhelm scream 😂
@vb1gbg
@vb1gbg Жыл бұрын
How did the chip collection perform? My guess is that it was not what you expected since that was left out of the video. Successful or not, that was the part I was looking forward to seeing.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
It definitely helps! Maybe we'll show some this week on Instagram. I mean, it's a round can in a squarish space, so not all of it makes it in for sure, but it's easy to clean out what's in the can
@513Allen
@513Allen Жыл бұрын
Your video was great as I have the same problems with snip. Just got back from HD with that shelf material and boy it works great. As far as dust collection my collector is close enough that the planer blower is not a problem. Right now I just use a 4" flex hose and tied a string with a large loop to pull it out of the way of the outfeed. Love your channel and the Making it Podcast.
@rgdayo
@rgdayo Жыл бұрын
Slight improvement may have been to put the wheels on the same side as the boards going in and out so there's no risk tripping over them as you go around the tool
@leifhietala8074
@leifhietala8074 Жыл бұрын
When measuring sound levels, test in the same location relative to the tool every time, before and after changes. Tools aren't like light bulbs, they emit more and less noise depending on where you're standing.
@A6Legit
@A6Legit Жыл бұрын
Those casters are probably the right choice. Regular locking casters don't work too well on angled garage floors.
@WNCworks
@WNCworks Жыл бұрын
I like the box, it's a good solution to collect chips. The melamine, however, is a problem. The infeed and outfeed tables should be elevated slightly to reduce snipe as the board enters and exits the cutter, and the dial to set the thickness of the finished board is useless now. A better solution would be to hinge infeed and outfeed tables and use drop-down support legs that are adjustable. Good video, very entertaining.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
Nope a flat auxiliary table is the best you're going to do. That stupid scale was worthless the day it got put on the machine. Get calipers.
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 Жыл бұрын
Add a cyclone lid on the can, and an exit hose going to your main dust collector. I remember seeing a video that installing one of the spiral carbide cutting heads lowers the sound level.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
The knives being sharp definitely helps with the sound. Cutting is more quiet than hammering is.
@connertaylor116
@connertaylor116 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the bar for the casters right as you said it. I used these for a table and put them on the inside and the bar made it a lot easier to engage the casters
@joeycerelli
@joeycerelli Жыл бұрын
Fisher's Flip cart design all the way. That way you can have two tools in a single shop fixture. Just plug the hose into your existing dust collector.
@chrisj8431
@chrisj8431 Жыл бұрын
6:32 Wilhelm scream ... nice :)
@davidboston7943
@davidboston7943 Жыл бұрын
I've got this planer as well. Didn't see the instagram, but they hit on every problem I have with it. I've already got the cart and had a couple of the same thoughts you showed for dealing with the dust collection and infeed/outfeed. Thanks for providing your solutions! Glad to know I'm on the right track!
@drummond63
@drummond63 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I have the same planer and needed something. This gave me great ideas for my own set up!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad!
@steveslenderman8953
@steveslenderman8953 Жыл бұрын
Great cart! I have mine on a flip top cart with my ridgid spindle sander. Great idea for dust collection diversion. Also AWESOME work showing how to build to need while piecing a project together.
@roboboro-mx6ve
@roboboro-mx6ve Жыл бұрын
Maybe get a dw735 dust port from etsy, which collect 98% of the dust as well as hose will be attack to the top and don't need a fancy box. If you have a 3d printer you can make one yourself
@monteglover4133
@monteglover4133 Жыл бұрын
Thank You great ideas. I’m a satisfied user of the DW 735 for 10+ years FYI a 4” metal elbow fits onto the outlet of the plainer and the 4” hose. Flip Top Portable Work Support works better for me than roller stands.
@maximeboissonneault6203
@maximeboissonneault6203 Жыл бұрын
Have a look at what John Heist did for making a cyclone with the trash can for this exact planer
@A6Legit
@A6Legit Жыл бұрын
I built my stand out of planed 2x4's. I trust it more than 3/4" ply as support.
@scottydntno
@scottydntno Жыл бұрын
if you upgrade to a shelix cutter head by Byrd , it'll drop the noise level significantly!!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
I've actually got one installed, just forgot to mention it 👍🏼
@JasonMisavage
@JasonMisavage Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! I was just starting to think about building a stand with some sort of dust containment... something... for my Dewalt planer. Lot of good ideas in this video. Thanks!
@BruceAUlrich
@BruceAUlrich Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of redirecting it right back into the cart. Nice one!
@justinthames940
@justinthames940 Жыл бұрын
Pretty neat build, have this planer but my dust collection with cyclone handles it no problem and I suspend my collection from the roof. The cost of the plywood for this build these days plus the 60 dollar casters make this thing half the cost of the planer lol but I'm think about taking that melamine idea but building small torsion boxes on either side of the bed
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
Ideally your auxiliary table would extend beyond the original wings some. You seem to have come up a bit shy on the outfeed side. You also need guides on the side so anything you put through the planer doesn't get caught in the planer. You lose a bit of width but who goes max width? I used plywood that I glued some sheet metal to.
@steenteudt
@steenteudt Жыл бұрын
I was for sure thinking that you would build a bucket cyklone inside the cabinet. That would prevent much mure dust and chips from landing outside the bucket
@davework4400
@davework4400 Жыл бұрын
one of the problems I have with this dewalt planer, is I get sniping when the infeed and outfeed tables are completly flat! I have made my tables HIGER so the rollers force the board down as it comes in and goes out, and I no longer have sniping...great ideas!! thanks!
@AchievedZeus574
@AchievedZeus574 Жыл бұрын
I liked the solution by Under Dunn with a lifting table. Especially for a smaller shop that doesn't have a dedicated space for a planer. (Though I feel like if you did, it would be a larger stationary planer.)
@theinfernalcraftsman
@theinfernalcraftsman Жыл бұрын
The Melamine will start to peel off under the pressure rollers over time. BTDT. As for noise. In the Highschool shop we bought a couple smaller planers like that because they were quieter than the 16" powermatic (big heavy production one from the 60s)
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
I glued sheet metal to my auxiliary table. It's held up for years of use.
@aaronpennington7297
@aaronpennington7297 Жыл бұрын
I would have tried to make the infeed/outfeed the same height as your movable work benches or even the same height if not already as your table saw. That way you can utilize all of those items as needed to help. Also thought you were going to hook to your regular dust collector and just making a place for the bigger chips. As a stand-alone that is great. Maybe add a retractable extension cord, male-end on the retractable so you can have the planer and anything else that needs power on the cart always plugged in and not fumbling around for an extension cord.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I didn't point it out, but this one is actually made to match my work table height for infeed/outfeed 👍🏼
@Vaggumon
@Vaggumon Жыл бұрын
That super quick and subtle LinusTechTips reference.
@oupaswoodshop1325
@oupaswoodshop1325 Жыл бұрын
The cabinet will be filled with chips and dust. Might as well remove the dust can. Put a thien bafffel on the dust can and you'll have 95% success.
@Bob.Silverstein
@Bob.Silverstein Жыл бұрын
This is great! Was just struggling with dust collection on this planer and I think your solution is gonna be perfect!
@pmdinaz
@pmdinaz Жыл бұрын
What a great edit!! Good info too. Every year my tools get heavier, I swear! Picked up my wet saw last week and went..dang this is heavier than last time!!
@RunarMagnussen
@RunarMagnussen Жыл бұрын
Audio engineer here, jumping in to comment on the decoupling with the foam pads! The effects of decoupling is highly dependent on the surface from which you decouple. If the surface doesn't resonate much from the beginning, there won't be a large reduction in noise. How much it resonates depends on size, materials, thickness, shape, etc. My guess is that the ones who got an improvement had the planer on top of a crazy resonant surface for whatever base frequency the planer produces.
@bighammer3464
@bighammer3464 Жыл бұрын
In this case though the planar is now sitting on a hollow box. So you would want it to be separated from that box
@RunarMagnussen
@RunarMagnussen Жыл бұрын
@@bighammer3464 maybe, maybe not. It all depends on what your goal is and whether or not you struggle with sympathetic vibrations/resonance. I'm all for decoupling in audio applications, but my thought about loud power tools is that their loudness is best mitigated by just using hearing protection. An exception is of course if there's a big resonance making things worse, but it didn't seem to be one in this video.
@michaelmorales4459
@michaelmorales4459 Жыл бұрын
@@RunarMagnussen Quickly veering off into over-engineering territory here, but could I sandwich some mass-loaded vinyl between another layer of plywood in this build to cut down on the noise generated by the "speaker box" form?
@RunarMagnussen
@RunarMagnussen Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmorales4459 you definitely could! Some tools aren't that noisy, but may vibrate and cause whatever they're standing on to resonate. In those cases it might help to decouple them. With a really noisy tool the vibration and resonances can be drowned out by the tool noise itself, in which case the effect of decoupling is more debatable. I personally don't care about cutting down on tool noise, because I wear hearing protection and don't bother people with my shop sounds.
@frrapp2366
@frrapp2366 Жыл бұрын
1- harbor freight has a small 110v hoist 113$ that you could mount to a pipe on the ceiling would save your back for other projects,2- they also have furniture dollies that size for only 17$, and sometimes there is Nothing to do about sound just put the ear plugs in and bear it :)
@robshaw4093
@robshaw4093 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, and some simple ideas that made a massive difference to it. One suggestion, the bin if you cut a hole in the lid and fed that pip through the hole so the bin lid could stay on, would that help keep all the dust and shavings in the bin and not in the box?
@seanbrotherton542
@seanbrotherton542 Жыл бұрын
The infeed and outfeed tables on that planer are not supposed to be flat. They are slightly higher on the ends to remove snipe.
@fin3125
@fin3125 Жыл бұрын
I like the casters like that that can we remove. Stops me from tripping over them and it's cheaper to just buy mountain plates only
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
There are versions of these casters with pins that allow them to be removed from the plates quickly amzn.to/3YkGbEB
@tomibiloglav
@tomibiloglav Жыл бұрын
Why not build a cyclone in the upper part of box, above the bin? That would help a lot with separation of dust/ air.
@eugenes9751
@eugenes9751 Жыл бұрын
A cyclone separator lid on top of that trashcan would really help.
@kevinharris6725
@kevinharris6725 Жыл бұрын
the roller is ok but if you dont have it properly lined up with the planer it will cause the wood to move sideways. I suggest taking the roller off and attaching it to the melamine.
@zachpygall3063
@zachpygall3063 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video :) simple and helpful with some good ideas in a fun light hearted video. More like this please 👍🏻
@JaceTLittle
@JaceTLittle Жыл бұрын
I have something similar for dust collection but hose goes to multiple tools. Nice use of the wilhelm scream.
@jzahirniak
@jzahirniak Жыл бұрын
You have the lid for that can...why not cut a hole in it and attach a hose fitting to it. Cut a few more around to keep from blowing the top off. Maybe even put a little hardware cloth on the underside to help keep the chips in the can and not the box.
@MrJmannikko
@MrJmannikko Жыл бұрын
I love the sound effects used in this video. Hilarious.
@bobt2522
@bobt2522 Жыл бұрын
I bought the dust port kit from Rockler (Item # 34367) and built a chip separator from the free plans they offer. Since then, I have Clagettized it so that it holds the planer and and my 10" benchtop jointer (another 80 pound portable tool). It is ugly but it puts the complementary tools on the same cart.
@ivokolarik8290
@ivokolarik8290 Жыл бұрын
Helical cutter head will make it less loud and you won't melt the fan propeller shroud with big chips
@Bjeenie
@Bjeenie Жыл бұрын
hmmm... i'm a bit sceptic about the dust collection. If the blower of the planer can blow that hard, i'm not sure why the dust collection wouldn't make a dust storm in there ;-) I think a dust vortex/cyclone filter would be better for the collection ;-) but a good video once again!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff Жыл бұрын
oh it's absolutely a storm, but all dust settles... mostly in the can :)
@TheHandystanley
@TheHandystanley Жыл бұрын
Great idea Bob and crew! Hope all is well back east!
@w.thomasphelps2175
@w.thomasphelps2175 Жыл бұрын
I tried using melamine as an in-feed,out-feed solution and found that the pressure from the rollers made the melamine surface rub off on the bottom side of the planed boards, Ended up covering the surface with laminate. Works much better.
@lightaces
@lightaces Жыл бұрын
I mean, my use case is pretty light duty, but the only problem I have with mine is the noise. But then, mine is in a permanent location, and I have very good dust collection. But damn, that thing is LOUD!!!!
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