ILLUMINATI Lineup Revealed! DR STRANGE and the MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS Mystery VILLAIN Explained

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Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness just unleashed a new trailer filled with Easter Eggs, and the marvel Cinematic Universe debut of the Illuminati. They are a cabal of Marvel heroes who work in the shadows--except here, it seems like they're working to keep the Multiverse in Order...much like the TVA in Loki. In this video breakdown we give our predictions for their membership. Some members will be the same as in the comics (Professor Xavier, Black Bolt, Namor, Dr Strange, Tony Stark, Black Panther, and Reed Richards).
We think that some of those members will stay in place (Patrick Stewart is returning!) along with Captain Carter, Loki, Baron Mordo, and--who knows?--maybe Deadpool. But we also didn't see a villain in the trailer, someone who is manipulating Wanda through the Darkhold. We think this could be the Dark Lord Chthon. He is the creator of the Darkhold and a longtime ofe of both Doctor Strange and Wanda Maximoff, the Scarlet Witch.
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0:00 Multiverse Illuminati Explained
2:44 Illuminati Membership Theories - Baron Mordo
4:46 Dr Doom, Evil Tom Cruise Tony Stark
6:19 What If's Captain Carter and Kang (or He Who Remainns)
7:36 Loki
8:30 Spider-Man Now Way Home's Failed Spell and Mystery Villain
9:38 Who's Manipulating the Scarlet Witch?
#DrStrange #MultiverseOfMadness #Illuminati
The biggest reveal everyone is talking about in the new trailer for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is Patrick Stewart. We don’t see him, but there is no mistaking that voice. So this pretty much confirms we will see Charles Xavier in the movie, most likely a variant of the professor X from the X-Men movie.
And the trailer confirms that Xavier will be part of the MCU’s version of the Illuminati, a group that is protecting or enforcing the multiverse.
So this begs the question, who are the other members of the Illuminati? Are they also characters from previous Marvel movies, or are they variants of established characters in the MCU. We actually think we know who these members are, and you will be surprised by who we have in mind.
Also, how does Scarlet Witch connect into all of this, what is the deal with zombie Strange, and what role the Illuminati will play in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness?
There is a lot to talk about, so let’s dive into it all.
Ok let’s start by guessing who are the members of the Illuminati, other than professor X. But first we need to briefly explain who the Illuminati are.
In the comics, they are a group of team leaders, who created an alliance to work in secret, taking preemptive actions to prevent threats. In the comics they are all from the same universe. Usually the team includes Iron Man, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Mister Fantastic, Professor X, Namor and Black Bolt.
But the MCU is making a drastic change to the team, and they will instead include members from different universes who protect the multiverse.
The comics version of the Illuminati actually played a somewhat similar role in the lead-up to Secret Wars, a crossover event that dealt with the multiverse collapsing. Also, we made a whole video about the Illuminati a while back, so be sure to check it out for more information about the team.
I should also mention the Council of Reeds from the comics, which as the name suggests, it’s an alliance of many versions of Reed Richards who protect the multiverse. Reed Richards by-the-way is Mister Fantastic. Who is also an ancestor of Kang, just thought it’s worth mentioning, cause I’m sure that will come into play sooner or later.
Based on what we see, the Illuminati is a type of organization, sort of like the Avengers of the multiverse.
I believe that Defender Strange created this multiversal team, and he was their leader. Emphasis on Was, because I think he dies early in the movie, and that’s why they built a statue to commemorate him. We will get back to Defender Strange, because he might be the movie’s real villain.
In the trailer we see that Doctor Strange is being put on trail by the Illuminati, most likely after he almost broke his universe in No Way Home. But more on that later.
As Stephen enters the hall of the council, we see that there are 6 seats in total. 5 of the seats are visible, but one of them is obstructed by Stephen’s body. It doesn’t look like there are any seats in the middle.
But if the movie’s Xavier is also in a wheelchair, then he’s likely using it as his seat. So it’s 3 seats on each side, with professor X in the middle. Meaning 7 members in total, just like in the comics.

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@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 2 жыл бұрын
Who else would you like to see cameo in this movie?
@ethanbailey9114
@ethanbailey9114 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there
@ethanbailey9114
@ethanbailey9114 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there
@ramirochavez7135
@ramirochavez7135 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be amazing! Hopefully different variants of Ironman/ captain American and x men
@michaelp_42
@michaelp_42 2 жыл бұрын
Ghost Rider of course 🔥😂
@bvldr
@bvldr 2 жыл бұрын
Your mom
@emilianopeloso7074
@emilianopeloso7074 2 жыл бұрын
Fact: this will be at least one of the "top 3" Marvel movies of all times. I'm not afraid to say it could be the best one.
@PapagenoMF
@PapagenoMF 2 жыл бұрын
fact, lol.
@emilianopeloso7074
@emilianopeloso7074 2 жыл бұрын
@@PapagenoMF actually....yhea
@deanospimoniful
@deanospimoniful 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to it as well, but don't get ahead of yourself.
@BrooklynBigAl
@BrooklynBigAl 2 жыл бұрын
What's that old saying? Oh yeah, "If your profile picture is from an anime, your opinion doesn't count." LOL. I'm just kidding, your opinion *does* count but it is just wrong. Financially it will do well but it won't be in the Top 3 all-time. And critically it will have slightly better-than-average ratings. The reasons for *good-not-great* box office and critical reception will be the same: 75% of people paying to see super hero movies are not geeky kids (and I don't use the word "geek" as a pejorative; I consider myself a geeky adult). Most moviegoers are families: moms and dads taking their kids to the movies. Phase I and II did well because moms and dads had no problem wrapping their brains around a story about a World War II supersoldier thawed out in the 21st Century; that's easy enough to follow. Or a strong, green irradiated guy. Or a kid with spider abilities. So many adults gave thumbs up and went back more than once to see those movies. But the MCU is making the same fatal flaw that DC comics did after Crisis on Infinite Earths and what Marvel did after Infinity Gauntlet. They're saying to themselves, "Where do we go from here? Let's go bigger! More complex! First we threatened the planet, then the galaxy, then the universe...now let's threaten *multiple universes* ." At some point audiences feel like stakes don't really mean anything anymore and they get fatigued. And they don't care about Steve Rogers or Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne because there are so many variants of them that you forget who *your* Captain America or Iron Man or Batman was. For cripes sakes, in What If?, Ultron had an attack where he took a bite out of a galaxy. A...bite...out...of...a...galaxy. Everyone I know laughed at that. No one said, "OMG. HE'S SO SINISTER AND POWERFUL!" The last Spider-Man flick did well because 1) it was the first big pandemic-era flick worth seeing and 2) despite the multiverse angle it was still a "small story": Spidey vs. Sinister Six while Strange's storyline was just a subplot dealing with the galactic consequences. Marvel...time to do "small stories" again.
@marleneg7794
@marleneg7794 2 жыл бұрын
Now hold on a minute...
@Decaposaurus
@Decaposaurus 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mordo takes Strange to the universe that is falling apart to show him what consequences can come from his actions. He shows him Sinister Strange to open his eyes to how twisted this version of himself could be, even if his intentions are good.
@AJ-yv7os
@AJ-yv7os 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh this sounds like one of the mire realistic predictions, I’m curious how he goes from that too the Illuminati.. maybe they had Mordo show him that to show him the truth and after when he goes back and sees the risk he goes back to the Illuminati where Wanda attacks to rescue him but then sees he turned/changed his mind on messing with reality where they now are enemies from there on
@Naomi-xu4hq
@Naomi-xu4hq 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-yv7os it looks like the Illuminati captured them and when they’re “fighting” mordo is taking off strange’s restraint. The robots seem to be fighting Wanda later
@Snurlaxe
@Snurlaxe 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-yv7os Some nonsense will happen that Strange causes, be that looking for Wanda's kids or fucking around with America Chavez or whatever, he will then get arrested and taken to the Illuminati and them "showing him the truth" is them showing what happens when he fucks around, which is Mordo taking him from universe to universe showing him what he's done.
@treysniper
@treysniper 2 жыл бұрын
@@Snurlaxe i like that theory
@JamesKuffner
@JamesKuffner 2 жыл бұрын
The cloak of levitation has a big blue shield on it in the scene where the city is dissolving which makes me think that is actually Defender Strange.
@BlackHatCinephile
@BlackHatCinephile 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick Stewart is confirmed in the IMDB cast list, but his character is unnamed. He might be playing Captain Picard in the movie.
@OrbitalHybridization
@OrbitalHybridization 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they .... "make it so." Hehe
@1981messiking
@1981messiking 2 жыл бұрын
Captain Jean Luc Picard to you sir 🤣😂
@apollolux
@apollolux 2 жыл бұрын
@@1981messiking Of the USS Enterprise ;)
@venm766
@venm766 2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely Charles Boner
@joshmciver4847
@joshmciver4847 2 жыл бұрын
IMDB is not a reliable source for casting pre-release for movies, unless it's confirmed by the studio or director, etc. They latch onto rumors just like the rest of the internet... now, that being said... it's obviously Patrick Stewart's voice, but don't trust anything online until it's confirmed, or you see the movie.
@flameroad123
@flameroad123 2 жыл бұрын
If Loki shows up as part of the I'm going to be confused shocked and excited all at once
@mollymiddagsfjell563
@mollymiddagsfjell563 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so safe here. This movie and the inclusion of X-men is something I want to experience 100% just as Marvel intend me to experience it. No leaks, no speculations, nothing. All other channels will be on mute until the 4th of may when the movie is released but I’m so happy that I’ll still have your content covering Moon Knight and The Batman to look forward to!
@JChe-ft4zc
@JChe-ft4zc 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying!! Although, I will add that the 2020 wait almost broke me, since that seemed to be the only thing online. Hahahaha
@Rick.Grayson
@Rick.Grayson 2 жыл бұрын
So you missed when he talked about speculation of Iron man, dr doom, etc? Nonsense. He’s spoiling too.
@mollymiddagsfjell563
@mollymiddagsfjell563 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rick.Grayson if that’s your opinion, then great. In my mind, there is a difference between light speculation on what we see in a Marvel trailer and showing rendered images allegedly from a Marvel source. Both before viewing the actual movies are speculations but different levels. As I said, I want to experience this movie as Marvel intended, that means watching trailers they put out for PR. To some people, that is too much spoiling. It all comes down to the individual.
@mollymiddagsfjell563
@mollymiddagsfjell563 2 жыл бұрын
@@JChe-ft4zc hahaha same!
@randomflagg7331
@randomflagg7331 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why kevin fiege is the greatest producer of all time cause hes aware that most fans can't help themselves when on the hunt for info. He has so much confidence in his plan that he will hold off key details so thst not to spoil or sabotage your entertainment. His goal is to provide the best possible entertainment within reason. And he's delivered an experience unlike anything available anywhere. Ive never seen anything like it before. He's changed the world. Business. Hollywood and after just 14 years has conquered an industry thst for a century was believed to be unbreakable. The only thing I worry bout is who will replace him. God forbid something happens to him. Cause there is no secret recipe to replicate that's why every attempt to duplicate his mastery has blewn up in oponets faces like an acme rocket. ts all him.
@aaron-articulated
@aaron-articulated 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for not covering leaks! I've loved watching all the theory/speculation videos through the pandemic and not having to worry about hearing spoilers that ruin the surprises that the creators have in store. It's helped me love and appreciate even more all the Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm releases that've been so engrossing these last ~15 years. Keep it up Ryan and crew!
@russrichardson991
@russrichardson991 2 жыл бұрын
When showing up for the movie, I want to feel shock and awe.
@ArmaanAli11
@ArmaanAli11 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is great because they come up with their own theories and not look at leaks at all. I saw his nwh videos and his theories were very wrong but also very interesting meanwhile New Rockstars smartly try to say their own theories and base it off leaks which is why i prefer screencrush tbh. Shoutout to heavy spoilers tho hes shameless and he does whatever he wants lmao great channels tho
@321puca
@321puca 2 жыл бұрын
My guess for the seven - Professor X (Fox Variant) - Mr Fantastic (Fox Variant) - Iron Man (Superior Variant) - Doctor Strange (Defender Variant) - Loki (King Variant) - Captain Carter (What If Variant) - Nick Fury (Watcher Variant) I think that would well represent the MCU, other Multiverse projects and the fox universe well, while also covering all aspects of marvel lore. I'd love to see Fury since it's been a long time since he's done anything significant in the present timeline. I'd also envision Loki as a Richard E Grant variant rather than Hiddleston. Mordo will be working for them. Maybe Iron Lad too to get a Kang variant involved. I'd love to see them have some high profile prisoners, such as Maestro Hulk and a variant of Wanda to push OG Wanda towards villainy. I think my team represents the comic team close enough while also leaving room for the real deal later down the line. The three members I'm missing is Black Bolt, who would be wasted as he doesn't speak (and Inhumans is not a popular series at all), Namor has never appeared in Live Action so it's probably important to get him there first, and for Black Panther, it probably makes sense to reveal the T'Challa replacement in their own movie before having them do cameos
@doctorstrobe
@doctorstrobe 2 жыл бұрын
The monster at 9:10 is probably Cyttorak since he seems to be made of the crimson bands Strange uses in some of his spells. Cyttorak is a demon closely linked to Juggernaut's powers and may be the true power behind the evil Strange version (just as Dormammu was behind the big bad of the first movie). The bands may also be what's binding America Chavez in another image. Also, Scarlet Witch is another known magic user linked to Cyttorak in the comics. The "Scarlet Witch" Agatha Harkness warned Wanda about could be a servant of Cyttorak in one way or another. Cyttorak is known to be able to travel dimensions (multiverse) and has also ties to X-Men via Colossus. The Crimsons Bands of Cyttorak were used by Strange in the first movie. In the comics, one of the very few things that can cut them is the Black Knight's Ebony Blade. Which in turn could lead to a MCU version of the Midnight Sons (in the comics, it's a team led by Dr Strange including Blade, Ghost Rider and other mystical themed heroes)
@pulkinpulman2028
@pulkinpulman2028 2 жыл бұрын
Then whoever fight him in the trailer gonna have a freaking bad day ..one of the strongest
@kevinrenstrom5558
@kevinrenstrom5558 2 жыл бұрын
HIs gem can be linked to a few in the x-men relm
@sleepingalligator
@sleepingalligator 2 жыл бұрын
i hope they actually do bring ghost rider back properly
@kieferfulsom4432
@kieferfulsom4432 2 жыл бұрын
Colossus or Juggernaut? I thought it was Juggernaut
@Pointman11111
@Pointman11111 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy i just wanna see Robbie Reyes again
@greybeardcomics1196
@greybeardcomics1196 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think in this world, Tony and Bruce made ultron. Instead it might line up with the comics and Antman made him, that would explain him working better.
@joshualewin3153
@joshualewin3153 2 жыл бұрын
Good theory this makes sense! This could also connect to kang being apart of this as well.
@angelrodriguez502
@angelrodriguez502 2 жыл бұрын
But wasn’t that Hank Pym in the comics? Not Scott Lang.
@joshualewin3153
@joshualewin3153 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelrodriguez502 hank pym was also antman in the comics could of just been referring to him.
@greybeardcomics1196
@greybeardcomics1196 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelrodriguez502 yep, and I’ll bet that’s who we get. Hank. Sorry I didn’t specify which ant man.
@kingrobofthenorth9075
@kingrobofthenorth9075 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like maybe the Loki from the show Might be the one who gathered this council, which is why he looked so suprised when he walked in the room
@JamesKuffner
@JamesKuffner 2 жыл бұрын
If they go with Kang being descended from Tony instead of Reed, then that person in the armour fighting Wanda might be Kang.
@TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN
@TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN 2 жыл бұрын
I mean he could be both a descendant of Tony and Reed… Tony only had a daughter, Morgan, so now the Stark family name is basically dead. And then perhaps Morgan marries the son of Reed who I believe is called Franklin Richards in the comics, thus passing down the Richards family name. And then furthermore, Franklin Richards could end up marrying a black woman and having Nathaniel Richards (Kang), thus explaining why Kang is now black. But ultimately Kang would have the Richards family name while still being a descendant of both Tony and Reed.
@LE_Gaming12
@LE_Gaming12 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it could be a kang variant name Ironlad
@Alertchase
@Alertchase 2 жыл бұрын
In one shot ,its looks like dude with beard and then in another shot ,its looks like a black person ike cyborg.Basically monica or kang . But those hips are thiiccc.Might be female.
@CalobAdamsInfamous913
@CalobAdamsInfamous913 2 жыл бұрын
I think they’ll stick with his comic book name Nathaniel Reed and that person who everyone thinks is a variant of Captain Marvel, who is either Maria or Monica, looks too be Jonathan Majors. That looks to be a Kang variant, Iron Lad
@BasicallyIIINobody
@BasicallyIIINobody 2 жыл бұрын
were you correct?
@MajorJuiceman
@MajorJuiceman 2 жыл бұрын
Side note, since you included the clip: Agatha's statement of Wanda's Scarlet Witch powers "exceeding that of the Sorcerer Supreme" is a bit less impactful now that we know that Wong is the technical Sorcerer Supreme and not Strange. Obviously she's probably still talking about Strange, but still.
@e3vL1
@e3vL1 2 жыл бұрын
Or she's talking about the title/in general, not a specific person
@MajorJuiceman
@MajorJuiceman 2 жыл бұрын
@@e3vL1 True true, very possible.
@Naomi-xu4hq
@Naomi-xu4hq 2 жыл бұрын
@@e3vL1 maybe, but can’t someone like ultron become a sorcerer supreme?
@kevintan5497
@kevintan5497 2 жыл бұрын
@@Naomi-xu4hq ultron hasnt been shown to use magic minus the infinity stones
@Wodz30
@Wodz30 2 жыл бұрын
@@Naomi-xu4hq The sorting hat was never used on Ultron. You are confused
@crithitjace
@crithitjace 2 жыл бұрын
Strange wants to help Wanda, as he learned that villains can be saved from Spider-Man doing the same in No Way Home.
@Saberwolf71
@Saberwolf71 2 жыл бұрын
Walking in front of the chairs is Mordo, the occupied chair on the left is Kilmonger-Black Panther and the occupied chair to the right is Captain Carter. Naturally, the space in the middle is for C. Xavier's hoverchair. A Tony Stark variant is pretty obvious, R. Richards is the 6th, and the 7th is currently empty because "defender Strange" has died. At least that's my prediction.
@JohnSmith-qq7gj
@JohnSmith-qq7gj 2 жыл бұрын
Kill monger is the only one I don't agree with, maybe Nemor
@JohnSmith-qq7gj
@JohnSmith-qq7gj 2 жыл бұрын
Or a version of Dr.Doom
@chikoo4467
@chikoo4467 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Doom for sure
@jesus1021
@jesus1021 2 жыл бұрын
IS almost a given one of them will be Mr. Fantastic now, because I think initially it was going to be Black Panther from the MCU, but since Chadwick passed away, they will decide to go with Mr. Fantastic.
@francescodarcangeli4197
@francescodarcangeli4197 2 жыл бұрын
I want Julian Mc Mahon's Dr Doom!
@jojofoshozo
@jojofoshozo 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video comparing The Illuminati and The TVA...
@LincolnsRepeater
@LincolnsRepeater 2 жыл бұрын
“Leaks aren’t fun, they ruin movies.” Facts. I want to enjoy every surprise the movie has to offer.
@pupinoriega7088
@pupinoriega7088 2 жыл бұрын
I also wanted to thank you for the wholesome content, and being an amazing channel that avoids leaks. Thank you for explaining. Love from Mexico.
@L337P1R4735
@L337P1R4735 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for NOT covering leaks I love analysis of trailers and stuff because it feels like working on a mystery but leaks are like looking at the last page of a book no effort or thinking
@MoistMan772
@MoistMan772 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown Ryan 👌 truly enjoyed this video
@WitdFlo
@WitdFlo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for breaking it down so brilliantly.
@channierichardson8440
@channierichardson8440 2 жыл бұрын
5:19 Superior Iron Man using the perfected version of Extermis 9:40 I believe Kang is the one who manipulating Wanda to combine all universes getting us ready for secret wars
@Ok_Thanks
@Ok_Thanks 2 жыл бұрын
Breaking: The newest member of the Illuminati has been confirmed, my sources tell me that after careful and thoughtful deliberation Kevin Feige has publicly addressed the rumors and they’ve decided to cast Ryan’s mom.
@Pointman11111
@Pointman11111 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thats a 4th wall break
@SuperstarDJSupreme
@SuperstarDJSupreme 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@headfracture
@headfracture 2 жыл бұрын
I freaking loved the Walter White Professor X you did at 1:15 !! Spot on :D
@harrystanley4339
@harrystanley4339 2 жыл бұрын
Love the fact you don’t give out spoilers👏🏼 people want understanding not spoilers to the movies 🙄 love the work👏🏼👍🏻
@ReedRichardsPhD
@ReedRichardsPhD 2 жыл бұрын
In all honesty? I'd prefer the Reed-Tony leadership for the Illuminati over your proposed Dr. Strange leadership. Idk. It just seemed so seamlessly done especially in Hickman's Avengers & New Avengers run. It's always a delight to see Reed be more than "man go strecho" and actually be a cunningly competent leader amidst the hardest moral dilemmas imbued with the role EDIT: Improved the structure lmao
@mediumvillain
@mediumvillain 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, part of the theme of the Illuminati was always that even the smartest brains in the comic book universe do not make the best choices and dont have any real moral authority to make choices In secret for everyone else, leading to a great deal of conflict. The Illuminati also seem to have a sort of antagonist role in this story, a group of "heroes" or leaders of heroes drunk w power who enforce their will, perhaps for a greater good, but not necessarily in a good way. I dunno if Reed Richards will be integral even if he does cameo. They probably wouldnt want to introduce him to the MCU as an antagonistic variant on a council of super-fascists.
@HyperLuminal
@HyperLuminal 2 жыл бұрын
@@mediumvillain I absolutely agree. While I’m a fan of the Illuminati and loved their changing roster and ambitious story arc in Hickman’s multi-title road to secret wars, the most absolutely prominent theme with them is- ultimate hubris of the highest order. They actually believe that because they are some of the greatest minds, and leaders of the most powerful nations/races/species that no one could possibly know better than them. Yet, From the day they formed they have basically done nothing but screw up, sometimes fantastically so. After founding the group in the wake of the Kree-Skrull war, against the advice of T’Challa who believed the idea of an all powerful cabal to be tyrannical, their first order of business was to pay the Skrulls a visit on their home-world and threaten them in regards to Earth. The Skrulls then promptly captured them, imprisoned them, dissected, studied and catalogued everything about them from genetics and powers to the contents of their minds. This gave the Skrulls the ability to avoid all detection thanks to the intel in Reeds mind, they learned everything about the earths cultures, power structures and defenses, and also learned the genetic secrets of all the various super humans of earth, be it mutates, mutants, inhumans, Atlanteans, etc. Then, they returned the Illuminati with no recollection of what had occurred, but not before replacing a few of them with perfect Skrull impostors(Black Bolt, Reed). The Illuminati’s first mission directly caused the skrull Secret Invasion which resulted in many deaths, kidnappings, Wasp being lost in the microverse, the fall of shield, and the rise of Osborn and his villainous Cabal and Dark Avengers which ushered in the Dark Reign bringing until levels of crime, death, an orchestrated false flag attack the murdered an entire football stadium of people, and the fall of Asgard. Next they decided to secretly collect all the infinity stones without consulting anyone. When they succeeded in collecting all six physical manifestations of the building blocks of the universe they immediately decided to try and destroy them, without even considering the possible implications. When that failed, the just decided it would be best to divvy them up and have each member take them home and hide them under their mattresses. Which obviously eventually led to a villain finding and stealing them, and when that crisis was narrowly avoided and Tony was asked by all Avengers to get rid of them, he lied, said he did and divvied them up again. Next they had the bright idea to track down and attempt to banish or subdue the beyonder somehow, and while this was sort of a dud, and resulted in no harm, once again they didn’t even consider the consequences of haphazardly antagonizing and threatening an all powerful sentient and living cosmic cube. Then they decided release the all powerful and all cray sentry on the world, after he had basically erased himself from reality of his own volition due to his ridiculous power levels, evil alter persona, and utter mental instability. Then they tricked the Hulk into a spaceship, lied to him, and banished him from earth against his will by shooting him across the universe and into a black hole which landed him on the most horribly inhospitable planet ever(which the illuminait promised with be a peaceful paradise). Then after struggling to survive, and eventually falling in love and starting a family, the Illuminati then inadvertently murdered hulls wife and nearly his unborn son, and destabilized the planet. The planet eventually died, Hulk’s son grew up to hate his father, and Hulk returned to Earth hellbent in destroying the planet. But hey! They were able to use that wonderful Sentry feller to stop Hulk in an explosive battle that basically leveled New York! Years later they reconvened after discovering the incursions of other earths, and immediately decided to assemble the infinity gauntlet. But first that had to figure out where that ornery, senile old Professor X his the mind stone before he was eye-beamed to death. Thankfully the furry blue cat man, who was now a furry blue Sasquatch, was able to hunt it down, earning him a spot in the super secret club! No questions asked! Now, to find someone with the power and capability needed to wield the gauntlet. Let’s see you’ve got Black Bolt, Namor, possibly Dr. Strange… oh wait, who’s that they chose? Captain America? Interesting 🤨. Cap then straps on the glove, struggles immensely with the power and the stones’ connection to his mind, barely pulls himself together, and by the skin of his teeth pushes back the encroaching universe and stops the incursion. Then, in one final demonstration of omnipotent godlike power, Cap summons limitless might of ineptitude and promptly used it to absolutely obliterate the gauntlet and 5 out of 6 stones, destroying their only proven weapon against the incursions. Oh, what happened to that other universe they just shot their power glove at? Well, they missed the part where that’s their problem. They return to the Illuminati locker room to celebrate another Illuminati style victory, but some of them are upset of Cap breaking their cool toy. Cap then opens a can of moral superiority and tells them it’s all their fault the gauntlet is gone, and furthermore he doesn’t like their attitude, and he thinks they’re all very bad men and their decision to kill other worlds to save universes is also very very bad! To which they respond, that he needs to watch his tone, that they only let him into their super secret club to be nice and how dare he question their big brains and positions of superhuman leadership! Cap continue to whine, so the gang instructs Dr. Strange to stick a magic finger in Cap’s brain, scramble things up and send him on his way. Now they can really get to work, calling up Black Bolts insane brother to help them mass produce a bunch of planet killing anti matter bombs!
@russrichardson991
@russrichardson991 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, our Strange, at this point, it still the arrogant surgeon, just working on a patient called “the cosmos.”
@almightyfish7562
@almightyfish7562 2 жыл бұрын
@@HyperLuminal bro, why did you type a whole story, this got boring after a while.
@rebeccageorge895
@rebeccageorge895 2 жыл бұрын
@@almightyfish7562 lmso couldn't agree more. either he has so much time in his life to flex his knowledge or he just wants to type an entire wikipedia-worth of oversimplifications
@fuijika
@fuijika 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of Dr Strange becoming the leader. He was always a facinnating character to me. I would like him to shine more!
@Adriel_Aviado
@Adriel_Aviado 2 жыл бұрын
You just gained a follower brodie!! Haha Let's go!!! It's gonna be lit man. I like how you explain stuff and we already know what's gonna happened but nobody knows exactly. Cool thing that you tell everything instead of these others page that lie hard.
@jimmyk4445
@jimmyk4445 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man that Tom cruise joke hit me so hard. I always joke or mention how good of a runner Tom cruise is and, usually follow it up with "ya know cuz he's always running" and here you are making basically the same joke. Made my morning.
@brianferreira7277
@brianferreira7277 2 жыл бұрын
IMO I think one of the major themes that runs through the Infinity era is the hero’s call to sacrifice what you are in order to become who you need to be. I think No Way Home set up the theme that will run through this era, the hero’s call to redeem rather than punish. I predict that Strange will team up with Wanda, who he thinks is innocent, and the Illuminati will go after them. Wanda will reveal herself as the big multiverses threat and Strange will have to decide whether he sides with the Illuminati who want to destroy her or whether he will be like Peter and try to redeem her.
@peterbailon7773
@peterbailon7773 2 жыл бұрын
Good take!
@gabeitches87
@gabeitches87 2 жыл бұрын
Strange: "I can fix her"
@elisandroku
@elisandroku 2 жыл бұрын
One of those members of the Illuminati may be a good variant of "Mordo" whom we saw in the trailer. He might have been selected there because of the sudden death of a variant "Dr. Strange" whom we saw as a monument statue. (I suppose that probably good mordo, illuminati team, and dead dr strange in the same universe) And probably our friendly watcher has created that multiversal illuminati team to keep stabilize something for a while. If it's like this, we can watch lots of different stories from them and learn their backgrounds on "What if 'S2'"
@MasterCamus
@MasterCamus 2 жыл бұрын
Best channel. Hate when people put leaks on the video thumbnails. Thank you.
@Armorall913
@Armorall913 2 жыл бұрын
Your take is most plausible, love it. Been watching others videos and meh. Doom and kang on the council would be awesome.
@jjstarrprod
@jjstarrprod 2 жыл бұрын
That's probably the most solid thought out theory of the plot of the movie, and one that finally starts to make sense. I also saw pretty clearly that if Defender (or Illuminati) Strange dies in the beginning of the movie, he's the one who comes back as a zombie, since the TV ad shows him pretty clearly with a ponytail when he climbs the mountain. Now where does that places him in the movie (if Chton really is the devil behind the devil, that makes Wanda, Shumargantos AND Zombie Strange his pawns, albeit 3 extremely powerful ones). Not sure how the Illuminati will face up against such a team or even if they will make it alive (I would hate to see Patrick Stewart die a 3rd time onscreen...).
@alexmiller9461
@alexmiller9461 2 жыл бұрын
I really do like the idea that the MCU is changing up the Illuminati lineup. That would be awesome in multiple ways, not only the decision to totally divorce itself from the comics, but also to change up the motivations and origin stories of each member.
@YISSELLP
@YISSELLP 2 жыл бұрын
Best breakdown on youtube. I watched so many of them and yours is by far the best. Thanks for the spoiler comment, I was off of youtube for so long until I was able to watch spiderman myself, more youtubers should do that as well. I laughed so hard at the Tom Cruise joke, I'm such a dork. I live your channel, keep up the good work.
@jonahsemmelweis2979
@jonahsemmelweis2979 2 жыл бұрын
I love it. I knew you‘d LOVE to make videos about MoM and it really shows. Great content!
@rayl3103
@rayl3103 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's Superior Iron Man. That image seems to be a person with womanly hips. Also, if I had to guess about the counsel, I'm thinking Namor, Dr. Doom, Reed Richards, Prof. X, Mordo (in place of their Dr. Strange), Loki and Iron Man would all be included. This is just a guess but an educated one.
@DoodMcAwesome
@DoodMcAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m not seeing it being Superior Iron Man either. This doesn’t rule out a version of him being in the movie, and I hope there is.
@Naomi-xu4hq
@Naomi-xu4hq 2 жыл бұрын
The superior iron man have womanly hips you can see when they’re taking strange
@CityPlannerPlaysChair
@CityPlannerPlaysChair 2 жыл бұрын
Superior Iron Man is there but not on council. That's Maria Rambeau Captain Marvel. An even more arrogant stark doesn't play well with a super secret boy band
@oxidize11
@oxidize11 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a captain marvel varient. Way too thick of hips.
@DoodMcAwesome
@DoodMcAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
@@Naomi-xu4hq Yeah it’s so obviously not a man. And the fact that it’s got the Captain Marvel power effects just points to this being Monica or some variation of Captain Marvel. I still don’t know why this supposed Superior Iron Man theory has gotten so popular in the fanbase.
@ensufuerointernoexul
@ensufuerointernoexul 2 жыл бұрын
Problem: the leaks from quite a while ago on Reddit look legit, including multiple very specific details. Partial solution: the reshoots change enough to make the leaks somewhat obsolete.
@majobasil
@majobasil 2 жыл бұрын
You the man Ryan. Keep up the amazing content.
@peoplelikegames
@peoplelikegames 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your channel!!
@blazindragon1833
@blazindragon1833 2 жыл бұрын
Here is who I think the 7 Illuminati members are and a bonus of what Infinity Stone they would wield as they did in the comics. Multiverse Illuminati Council - * Professor X - Space Stone * Superior Iron Man - Ego Stone * Master Mordo to replace Defender Strange - Time Stone * Captain Carter instead of Black Panther - Power Stone * Mr. Fantastic or Kang - Mind Stone * Madam Webb instead of Namor - Reality Stone * Black Bolt or Loki - Soul Stone
@isaiah4tone
@isaiah4tone 2 жыл бұрын
It would be cooler to see Black Bolt w/ the mind stone and Loki w/ the reality stone
@sandmtnirishred
@sandmtnirishred 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm old lol. My brother's older; he collected the comics. So forgive me for.. well, no, you'll love this. EVERYTHING WE KNOW IS WRONG. Grasp this, and it starts adding up. We can prove it. Hulk/Banner explained Time Travel BEFORE the Ancient One (Scathloch Celtic, btw) taught him. Terribly embarrassed by his 2012 antics, also, which he really wouldn't have been. Gamora never died at her father's hands or met Ego. Where's Goose? And WHEN exactly did he hack up the Tesseract on a very unused and uncharacteristic Fury desk? Flerkins are that way... NO MUTANTS. Until Professor X shows up to Judge if Strange is Wong enough to Mordo? Wiff a Big Blade? 6 Stones. 6 Colors. ILLUMINATI-LIGHT=WHITE Mind-yellow-VISION Space-Blue-THE COLLECTOR Time-Green-ODIN Reality-Red-SCARLET WITCH Power-Purple-KANG Soul-Gold-RED SKULL ENDARKENED-BLACK Mind-VISION Space-GAMEMASTER Time-THOR Reality-WANDA Power-AGATHA Soul-STARK But only if Loki can pull it off lol Infinity stones are just pretty rocks. Hulk explained Time Travel BEFORE traveling back to talk to the Ancient One(Scathloch, Celtic). So, it was NOT BANNER/HULK explaining. Reality's Collapsing. Reality was always more fluid Reality-Red-
@blazindragon1833
@blazindragon1833 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandmtnirishred Just no....
@sandmtnirishred
@sandmtnirishred 2 жыл бұрын
@@blazindragon1833 NO...? I picked just a general idealization. I know that if they keep with a couple of story behind the story, there's gonna be a crew free for all lol. THEY DID IT TOTALLY WRONG. Don't go back to the stones-go back to the POINT OF ERROR- Thor should've gone for the head, so go there and while Thor cuts the heart, Thanos says YOU SHOULD'VE GONE FOR THE And as his head is cut from his body, Loki says HEAD. BROTHER, WILL YOU EVER USE YOUR MIND NOT MUSCLES?
@sandmtnirishred
@sandmtnirishred 2 жыл бұрын
@@blazindragon1833 the battle was OUT OF SPACE AND TIME AND REALITY. Period. That only leaves MIND, POWER, AND SOUL. THEY DID WHAT THEY SHOULD'VE. STRING THEORY! QUANTUM LOL. WAIT AND SEE. What's happening now is they're initiating the X factor and the council of Illuminatus will be MUTANTS, Xavier, Rogue, Gambit (I'm SO looking forward to THAT; I love the character) (dude's hot also). Magneto is Wanda and Pete father and Agatha Harkens was the guardian of Reed's kid. She also is Wanda mentor. Rogue and Mystique were best friends; Mystique was a mother to her! Wolverine can't die, NEITHER CAN BANNER. Hulk/banner was CAPTAIN AMERICA; watch the way he acts and moves. Peter Parker is losing his own existence. They'll be fighting to save..... Sons and Souls and "YOUR MOTHER SHE CALLS TO ME. THIS IS HOME" Yeah, same place the Tesseract was in the Church Vault. WE ARE GROOT. The power of a miniscule base partial-Inevitable. Groot was cast out because he adored the servants/animal. Loki is on his 3 dimension; reality has gone to shit. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO REALIZED SCHATHLOCH? Look, Ancient One-I CAN ONLY SEE TO THIS POINT HE WHO REMAINS-This is the moment
@paulcastro769
@paulcastro769 2 жыл бұрын
What if everything that has happened in the MCU has taken place "Post House of M" and the "truth" Patrick Stewart is referring to is Wanda eliminating most of the mutants?
@Uouttooo
@Uouttooo 2 жыл бұрын
You can't eliminate something that is not there to begin with. She has no knowledge of mutants. Unless a variant of Wanda eliminated all mutants across the multiverse.
@CityPlannerPlaysChair
@CityPlannerPlaysChair 2 жыл бұрын
@@Uouttooo you can if they're wiped completely from the timeline
@paulcastro769
@paulcastro769 2 жыл бұрын
@@Uouttooo maybe she wiped her own mind after doing it? She was fairly young and had no real knowledge of her powers when we first met her. Its just a thought, prolly isnt true.
@joeyking4990
@joeyking4990 2 жыл бұрын
Or something like Wanda saying let “there be mutants” or “let there be more like me” in the final stages of the movie and that’s how mutants are introduced to the mcu timeline
@Vor567tez
@Vor567tez 2 жыл бұрын
The truth is about Defender Strange.
@fightthegoodfight52
@fightthegoodfight52 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff-new subscriber here! That new trailer has got me pumped! I am so excited for this movie. 😀
@armanke13
@armanke13 2 жыл бұрын
Omg your string of theories make sense! Other youtubers doesn't mention Chthon.
@LeAnimal65
@LeAnimal65 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're right on the money here. On a side note: Wouldn't it be AWESOME to see Bryan Cranston as a Professor X variant?! I'd shit nickles!
@Dan_Cattell_Art
@Dan_Cattell_Art 2 жыл бұрын
SC: "If you watch this channel, then you know that we don't talk about leaks here." SC: Immediately goes on to discuss every rumored leak that he's heard.
@afcshahid
@afcshahid 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know, it seems he only discusses things either in the trailer or things confirmed
@RafaelRodriguez-nb8in
@RafaelRodriguez-nb8in 2 жыл бұрын
May 6th can’t come soon enough, I’m super hyped for this!!!
@danforward3913
@danforward3913 2 жыл бұрын
This is shaping up to be by far the most bizarre movie in the MCU and I cannot wait for it.
@EliteNosferatu
@EliteNosferatu 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see Wesley Snipes as a version of Black Panther because he wanted to play that character in the 90’s
@serwinzzalot9989
@serwinzzalot9989 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@serwinzzalot9989
@serwinzzalot9989 2 жыл бұрын
Snipes would have been an awesome jedi too
@misterw591
@misterw591 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if we will get a different version of the Illuminati after this. Like the MCU Professor X and not Patrick Stewarts. Plus I want Loki to help start the Cabal group with Dr. Doom
@jmattos
@jmattos 2 жыл бұрын
omg dude. these videos give me life. lol great job as always.
@Krishna-ig8mn
@Krishna-ig8mn 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome speculation Guys👌🙏🙏
@trapenoone6904
@trapenoone6904 2 жыл бұрын
We don't know who or what will walk through it. I'm pretty sure that by the end of this movie, we'll see end credit scene where Kang The Conqueror appear.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think the members who make up the Illuminati are Professor X Defender Strange Master Mordo Maria Rambeau as a variant Captain Marvel Superior Iron Man played by Tom Cruise Mr. Fantastic (2000’s version)
@alextsoronis2782
@alextsoronis2782 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@BaithNa
@BaithNa 2 жыл бұрын
No Iron Man?
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 жыл бұрын
@@BaithNa I said Iron Man?
@tachyontinman5909
@tachyontinman5909 2 жыл бұрын
Best breakdown channel!
@ShefferTube
@ShefferTube 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not talking about leaks. You're the only channel I'll watch because of it!
@Reani71
@Reani71 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the most important question is obviously: what does Doug think about it ?
@johnshields_
@johnshields_ 2 жыл бұрын
Another day another Doug
@sethkettel263
@sethkettel263 2 жыл бұрын
I feel, following your idea of Defender Strange assembling the Illuminati, that the empty middle spot is his chair that they have now removed, and at the end of the movie I feel our Strange will take Defender Strange’s spot in the Illuminati
@Uouttooo
@Uouttooo 2 жыл бұрын
No, the empty spot is for Charles' floating wheelchair. And MCU Dr. Strange has things to do and Avengers 5 to make to be sitting on the Illuminati.
@BlackElon1
@BlackElon1 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel... can't believe I just found out about it
@STEVEN-cw2gh
@STEVEN-cw2gh 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the mentioning of not spoiling anything. Not many channels have the discretion you do. They just put spoilers up everywhere for the sake of click bait. You're a cut above the rest @screenCrush
@joshualogan84
@joshualogan84 2 жыл бұрын
The Ironman or Captain Marvel fighing Wanda could be 'Ironlad.' This would be a younger, more idealistic version of Kang with the Ironman suit. Also, we have been building or seeding a Young Avengers team and Ironlad is on the team in the comics.
@terrorazeing
@terrorazeing 2 жыл бұрын
Stop with the "Iron Lad" idea. It's not gonna happen, at least anytime soon. But what's really sure here is that character was obviously a red herring. Most people miss the part where that person has womanly hips. I doubt it's a guy. But definitely not Carol though.
@sarangunya
@sarangunya 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrorazeing Jepp...its Ironlad...in 8K you can see Kangs Face...Manly and PoC...and IronSuite....
@terrorazeing
@terrorazeing 2 жыл бұрын
​@@sarangunya And in 16k, I can see my grandma's face instead LOL. Believe what you want, but it's not gonna happen. My bet is that it's a woman. Have you seen how shapely that person's hips were? You're probably not paying too much attention on some details.
@terrorazeing
@terrorazeing 2 жыл бұрын
​@@sarangunya The reason why I'm also very skeptical about Iron Lad ever appearing is that when it comes to Iron Man's legacy, it's very very obvious that Marvel-Disney's plans are all directed towards introducing Ironheart aka Riri Williams. If there's ever such a thing like Iron Lad in MCU then he'll probably appear in the Armor Wars D+ series, which will be released next year or in 2024.
@Chadsteryaah
@Chadsteryaah 2 жыл бұрын
The person in the glowing orange that fights Wanda is 100% obviously a person of color, it's either mom or daughter Rambeau.
@1aml3g3nd13
@1aml3g3nd13 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s totally Maria. There’s cleaned up pics of her all over the internet.
@insightfulgiraffe
@insightfulgiraffe 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best theories yet!
@swapnilverma9704
@swapnilverma9704 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God you are so brilliant You just gave me goosebumps 😳
@jasonvoorhees310
@jasonvoorhees310 2 жыл бұрын
I feel very confident saying that the silhouette to stranges right on the Illuminate council is Captain Carter. It looks just like her to me. The one on the left looks like Reed Richard's. I think members from the Guardians of the Multiverse from what if could be on the council, hence Captain Carter being one of them.✌ And how is everyone convinced that's Supreme Iron man???? It looks like a Captain Marvel variant to me. Like Monica Rambo or Maria Rambo. Just saying.
@Uouttooo
@Uouttooo 2 жыл бұрын
That "Captain Marvel" is glowing too much to be an Ironman variant.
@jasonvoorhees310
@jasonvoorhees310 2 жыл бұрын
@@Uouttooo Right. But in the comics Supreme Iron man does glow red/orange. But even so, it still looks like a womanly figure to me.
@CityPlannerPlaysChair
@CityPlannerPlaysChair 2 жыл бұрын
It's Maria. I feel like Stark will be more of a cameo, and the main illuminati will factor in heavier the final 1/3rd.
@treyhive5654
@treyhive5654 2 жыл бұрын
Her shield was also in the lettering on one of the Movie posters. She’s in it.
@jasonvoorhees310
@jasonvoorhees310 2 жыл бұрын
@@CityPlannerPlaysChair agreed
@Pork_Chop007
@Pork_Chop007 2 жыл бұрын
LES GO PROFESSOR X
@techsana3883
@techsana3883 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro!
@madlight10
@madlight10 2 жыл бұрын
Good plot Sir 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Wooshey_Wooj
@Wooshey_Wooj 2 жыл бұрын
The only question I have for Prof. X is why they didn’t just show him. For the casual audience maybe. But maybe Marvel has some trick up their sleeves with his appearance.
@CityPlannerPlaysChair
@CityPlannerPlaysChair 2 жыл бұрын
He's in the animated series hover chair. It's not exactly the Fox version
@Wooshey_Wooj
@Wooshey_Wooj 2 жыл бұрын
@@CityPlannerPlaysChair You’re talking about the concept art that leaked. A while back. Just because he’s in that specific chair doesn’t t mean he’s from that universe. He could be a variant of that variant.
@CircusOfFive
@CircusOfFive 2 жыл бұрын
Love the idea of Doctor Doom being part of the Illuminati - he's one of my favourite characters, plus if I recall he played a small role in Secret Wars. My other fan-casting would be the MCU Doctor Strange being the undead Strange we see at the trailers end --voluntarily paying the ultimate price for his arrogant meddling. How does the MCU keep pulling me back in, everytime i think i'm out!
@lesnarcountryscreams
@lesnarcountryscreams 2 жыл бұрын
would love to see a behind the sceens on how you make your videos
@coreysparks3531
@coreysparks3531 2 жыл бұрын
You run laps around all the other channels💯💯
@deco176
@deco176 2 жыл бұрын
Not a chance Loki is on the illuminati council. He is always a loser? his show said that's his destiny and do we really think they would waste a seat with an already well known established MCU character. I don't think it makes sense. Namor, reed, professor x, ironman, a Dr strange variant and blackbolt. calling it now
@sarcasticj3107
@sarcasticj3107 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree. This might be our only time to see the illuminati exactly like the comic books since Stark is dead in the main MCU. Feige, being a huge comic book fan will want to give the fans what they want this one time. Look at No Way Home. Even if we never see all 3 Spider-Men together again we got it that one time. (BTW, I think we'll see them all together again because the actors all enjoyed it so much.🤞🏻) Either way, this movie is going to be incredible!
@peterhernandez7817
@peterhernandez7817 2 жыл бұрын
Great point
@deco176
@deco176 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarcasticj3107 exactly. having prof x in the trailer was like the studio saying you think that's cool, that's our smallest cameo. We are gona get a few live action versions of never before seen characters. no way this opportunity will be missed.
@Naomi-xu4hq
@Naomi-xu4hq 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarcasticj3107 I do remember feige saying he didn’t want our own Tony stark to come back and didn’t want to depend on dead characters and focus on develop new ones
@CityPlannerPlaysChair
@CityPlannerPlaysChair 2 жыл бұрын
Some combination of Professor X Richards Black Bolt Balder Captain Carter Maria Rambeau Mordo Namor
@justinskywalker
@justinskywalker 2 жыл бұрын
Namor? I could see him since he's in the group in the comics, plus I'm pretty sure he's been confirmed... or at least heavily rumored to be in BP2. If they have Reed, why not Namor? They could even make it essentially the exact same roster as the comics. Charles from the foX-Men, Namor, Tom cruise Tony Stark, Anson Mount Black Bolt (an unrelated Variant to the tv show version who can maybe actually talk), Either Gruffold, Teller, or Krasinski Reed, defender strange (who dies and is backfilled by Mordo) with the addition of Capt Carter or even someone else entirely out of left field.
@rashida7777
@rashida7777 2 жыл бұрын
Who would play Namor, I wonder?
@justinskywalker
@justinskywalker 2 жыл бұрын
@@rashida7777 actually, I just looked it up and it appears that already have someone by the name of Tenoch Huerta. I'm not familiar with him, even though he was in Narcos, he doesn't look familiar. That said, that's all just rumor right now, nothing "officially" confirmed
@rashida7777
@rashida7777 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinskywalkerI hope the sunny screw over his character. 😫 He was long before Aquaman and got copied by DC. Thanks Justin! All the best!
@AlphaTarantula
@AlphaTarantula 2 жыл бұрын
wow you're pretty good i know this is an older video but i just watched the movie today and you predicted a lot .
@johngerity
@johngerity 2 жыл бұрын
Are you like me, going "yup" and "wrong!" with each prediction? ^_^
@AlphaTarantula
@AlphaTarantula 2 жыл бұрын
@@johngerity yes lol
@AduderReviews
@AduderReviews 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna watch the first Dr. strange now. I'm all hyped up for this film.
@Miloadeur
@Miloadeur 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Strange’s “desecration of reality” it’s not just ‘No Way Home’ it’s everything he’s done so far that surpasses all the other options, that in the end, puts in danger the bigger scale of realities. I don’t think Loki’s a member, but I hope he’s role it’s not just a cameo. Aaaaand, I do think that’s a variant of Captain Marvel, but I also think, we’ll see a superior Iron man… it’s all set up.
@rasalpaul4574
@rasalpaul4574 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Loki is in this movie🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@gokugirl826
@gokugirl826 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!🙂🙂
@Mccpotinc
@Mccpotinc 2 жыл бұрын
This guy reaches so far with his easter eggs and references, I bet when his dad used to beat him he thought it was a reference to rocky 3
@ratedrawr1411
@ratedrawr1411 2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget about Skrullz, with Secret Invasion coming. Your multiverse surgon just might be a skrull or a super skrull could be acting as Reed Richards 🤔 I guess will have to wait & see... 🤘😎
@abdel1143
@abdel1143 2 жыл бұрын
Mordo in the After-credits scene of Doctor Strange 2016 ended up hunting down former sorcerers to take away their powers. I think MCU Mordo will try to hunt down Wanda. They will end up in a fight with Wanda killing Mordo as then she will become the Scarlett Witch and open up te Multiverse traveling to the Sinister Strange Universe. That might explain why Mordo has different hair cause he’s the variant
@CityPlannerPlaysChair
@CityPlannerPlaysChair 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they'll have her physically travel, or just project her mind...similar to the end of WV
@abdel1143
@abdel1143 2 жыл бұрын
@@CityPlannerPlaysChair I think the last one is quite possible. If you compare the 2 Madness trailers, in the first one Strange asked Wanda: ‘what do you know about the Multiverse?’. There it was a beautiful forest. In the second trailer at the end, Strange was wearing same casual jacket and asks her the same, but she was wearing her Scarlett Witch crown and said: ‘when I do it I become the enemy’. So I think it played off in hear mind.
@hetvisampat
@hetvisampat 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdel1143 that forest could just be and illusion like she created one in wanda vision. And strange might say something that makes wanda reveal the truth
@jaceylynn6134
@jaceylynn6134 2 жыл бұрын
I really think one of the Illuminati members could be Sylvie. She's capable of traveling to different universes. Also it would be easier to introduce a team that we at least already know some of the members, in my opinion
@NobleEagle
@NobleEagle 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think so, i believe Strange MOM events should be happening in concurrent to Loki series and Sylvie would be still considered a criminal same as Strange
@jaceylynn6134
@jaceylynn6134 2 жыл бұрын
@@NobleEagle the events of the final episode of Loki happened outside of time, meaning that the multiverse retroactively always existed. It could still be concurrent. Also Sylvie is not a villain bro. Besides, it's just an idea. I'm not betting on it or anything lmao.
@NobleEagle
@NobleEagle 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaceylynn6134 Concurrent...meaning Sylvie would still be in running, so how could she be in Illuminati? And she was a criminal being chased by the Time Keepers throughout the series, have you even watched it?
@jaceylynn6134
@jaceylynn6134 2 жыл бұрын
@@NobleEagle yeah she was a “criminal” to the TVA, which turned out to be a scam created by HWR. Did you even watch it? She was only a “criminal” because a variant of a future MCU villain said so. And the way that time was portrayed in Loki showed that everything happening outside of time basically happens throughout all time. I don't know why you've decided to single out my idea and be a douche but here we are. Edit: in other words after Sylvie killed HWR and the timelines crossed the threshold, she was free to do whatever she wanted, including joining the Illuminati. Like I already said I wouldn't bet on it but it seems completely possible to me.
@reviewwithyou2
@reviewwithyou2 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't know who Black Bolt, Prof x, capt America, iron man, reed Richards, and Namor are by now... Regardless, I don't think they'll use the same people that are in the comics. The New Panther is said to be on the illuminati in the movie, as well as a Kang Variant, and a "good" ultron. Even Superior Iron man is rumored to be in this illuminati group.
@Edreyes813
@Edreyes813 Жыл бұрын
You are always ! Right on man more then half of this video was right
@voltz8945
@voltz8945 2 жыл бұрын
Loki being included as one of the illuminati would be amazing
@dheerajkallimar2869
@dheerajkallimar2869 2 жыл бұрын
When agatha says wanda's power exceeds the sorcerer supreme.... So technically she's referring to Wong right? Post post End game he's the one in charge
@ChrisShelby
@ChrisShelby 2 жыл бұрын
damn as usual all of these theories are excellent! Can't fight them.
@chasehauser7053
@chasehauser7053 2 жыл бұрын
RYAN YOU ARE THE BEST THANK YOU FOR THE "LEAK" TALK ❤
@brimfire
@brimfire 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the "desecration of reality" that Wong is referring to isn't directed at Strange, but at Wanda. Because, you know, Westview and that whole DESECRATION OF REALITY thing she did? But I also agree with Ryan that there is no way Reed Richards' first appearance is as a freakin' cameo on the Illuminati! We're talking about the dad of Marvel's first family: he's not getting less of an introduction than freakin' Peter Quill. Though seriously, what is with this Superior Iron Man stuff: that is DEFINITELY Monica or Maria Rambeau fighting Wanda. Like... come on, it 100% is. Does everyone else need glasses or something? lol
@rashida7777
@rashida7777 2 жыл бұрын
Wanda went wild in Westview! LOL! What an awesome storyline! They deserve an Oscar for WandaVision! Just great filmaking!
@ishaanbhattacharya9405
@ishaanbhattacharya9405 2 жыл бұрын
I think somehow tom Holland (and maybe tobey Maguire) should appear as spider-man in doctor strange mom
@yb_5007
@yb_5007 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the video i was waiting for
@dominiquedavis5152
@dominiquedavis5152 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t been subscribed this whole time?!! SMH 🤦🏽‍♀️ I was wondering why I wasn’t getting notifications.
@justingary5322
@justingary5322 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😎
@sephandremanticore5438
@sephandremanticore5438 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy as it sounds, I think it would fit the physical silhouette to a tee if Doctor Doom was one of the Illuminati here.
@martinmarkjr
@martinmarkjr 2 жыл бұрын
"Namer." ❤️ your work!
@dude-man
@dude-man 2 жыл бұрын
5:14 i dig cameos man
@joab757
@joab757 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny watching the biggest channels race each other to release the same content. That said, I can’t get enough of it The hardest part must be listening to the leaks and having enough self control not to use them to get a leg up on the competition.
@untappedpotenial9192
@untappedpotenial9192 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve concocted a Denzel Washington as a variant of Tchalla from another universe who grew up and become King of the Dead and all of that. I believe as Chadwick’s mentor of sorts, he’s the perfect person to play a variant, opening us up to another younger actor playing Tchalla as well. I think the one sitting on the left looks like a black Panther
@thrill37
@thrill37 2 жыл бұрын
Illuminati cameos I'd like to see: -Tom Cruise as Tony Stark by way of Les Grossman. -Michael Fassbender as Magneto, but it's Magneto from the Age of Apocalypse timeline. -Anson Mount as Black Bolt from the Inhumans TV show. He did great work there.
@tcrab1
@tcrab1 2 жыл бұрын
Love your no-spoiler policy!
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