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ImmersionRC Ghost - what do we know about it?

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@Merryler
@Merryler 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Pawel! In your opinion in upcoming years 900mHz protocols (especially Crossfire) will get outdated and pushed to archives of RC by LoRa profs like Ghost?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
It's not like that. The problem with Crossfire and R9 is that they are overkill or possibilites comparing to the needs of majority
@kandredfpv
@kandredfpv 4 жыл бұрын
@@FPVUniversity but what about the reduced penetration? Wouldn't 900MHz be better for people flying in bandos or behind dense vegetation?
@zigmar7
@zigmar7 4 жыл бұрын
@@kandredfpv I am hardly a specialist, but AFAIK lower frequencies have generally better penetration, so in theory Ghost could be better for bandos.
@bassohollic
@bassohollic 4 жыл бұрын
@@zigmar7 900mhz is lower than 2400mhz
@Merryler
@Merryler 4 жыл бұрын
@@FPVUniversity From this perspective, I agree, but wouldn't put too much trust in higher frequency long-range capabilities than in thrustworthy CRSF / R9
@amax2624
@amax2624 4 жыл бұрын
Nice entry into this topic. I think the merge of crsf shot/multi/ghost handling with the new XJT HB sync will start with version OTX 2.4,....I hope so.
@strikerFPV
@strikerFPV 4 жыл бұрын
There's already a OpenTX private build for Ghost. So you can just use that until the changes are included in the latest release.
@brunofporto
@brunofporto 4 жыл бұрын
WE have the ExpressLRS alternative for both 915/868 Mhz and 2.4ghz too :D But it is DIY and Opensource.
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 4 жыл бұрын
Still pissed at IRC for dumping EZUHF.... They could have at least developed an SBUS reciever...and don't knock ppm...it still works just slower, fine for FW.
@axiomNES
@axiomNES 4 жыл бұрын
I believe you can update the firmware for the diversity rx to output sbus
@kral5932
@kral5932 4 жыл бұрын
@@axiomNES Unfortunately not, and I tried, a lot. The sbus firmware doesnt work as it was based on a bug in a very old version of opentx, meaning that you need to flash old opentx or just use ppm. I've just been using ppm, but I think I'm moving to expresslrs
@FreeBirdFPV
@FreeBirdFPV 4 жыл бұрын
so dual antenna so put patch for long range and omni for 360 near me if i understand correctly system shoes better signal
@dj_dazzy
@dj_dazzy 4 жыл бұрын
Antony from IRC said that on the bardwell video.
@Fleche_FPV
@Fleche_FPV 4 жыл бұрын
The high framerate is a good thing to limit the runaway of the FeedForward for brutal maneuvers in hard freestyle.
@JohnDoe-or3hc
@JohnDoe-or3hc 4 жыл бұрын
Can you explain this more please?
@Fleche_FPV
@Fleche_FPV 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-or3hc UAV TECH explains it very well ...
@pteranodon3946
@pteranodon3946 4 жыл бұрын
FF amplifies any jumps in the input signal. Higher update frequency = smaller steps = better PID controller input, especially if there few or no retransmissions of packets.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's looking like a pretty interesting technology! 😃 Stay safe there with your family, Pawel! 🖖😊
@RubyS.1
@RubyS.1 4 жыл бұрын
Give the man a ghost!!
@IVANWONG1989
@IVANWONG1989 4 жыл бұрын
LIKE
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
start sending messages to www.immersionrc.com/contactus/ then :)
@dj_dazzy
@dj_dazzy 4 жыл бұрын
Nah buy one like us plebs. Unbiased review then 😉
@beboba2498
@beboba2498 4 жыл бұрын
Eventually everything will end up with one 2.4Ghz transceiver for control/telemetry and video. It's completely unreasonable to have two transmitters on board.
@beboba2498
@beboba2498 4 жыл бұрын
The newest version of LoRa is SX1262, there're no products on these chipset yet
@ThePapanoob
@ThePapanoob 4 жыл бұрын
The most important thing about ghost is that there is a counterpart from tbs coming 😎🤟 and knowing those guys its gonna be fucking lit
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
You know, underneath it will be the same hardware, so you know...
@ThePapanoob
@ThePapanoob 4 жыл бұрын
Paweł Spychalski but software will differ! And especially the price and lets just say its not looking good for ghost 😎
@dj_dazzy
@dj_dazzy 4 жыл бұрын
Vaporware is always better than actual firmware 😉
@IshamPadron
@IshamPadron 4 жыл бұрын
Lot of speculation here but you obviously know what your talking about. I would like to see you interview Tony Cake. I'd probably understand 5% of what you would be saying but it would a fun technical interview. FYI the FRM302 works in the Nirvana with Flyskys own firmware update that you get from their website. I think it also works with the Paladin.
@acal5159
@acal5159 4 жыл бұрын
I think Bardwells new video shows him using what appears to be the Radiomaster Tx16s with ghost. If thats the case, tx16s runs opentx.
@acal5159
@acal5159 4 жыл бұрын
There is a link on ImmersionRCs site to a beta release protocol for OpenTX ghst
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
You can also run it with PPM and SBUS mode in OpenTX
@dj_dazzy
@dj_dazzy 4 жыл бұрын
Thought GHST was incorporated in the nightly now and available from opentx 2.4.0. Does INAV support SRXL-2 yet? I noticed a fork was working but couldn't see it remerged.
@215cyclone
@215cyclone 4 жыл бұрын
So 2 dipoles ? Why wouldnt a 2.4Ghz omni and patch be better ?
@dj_dazzy
@dj_dazzy 3 жыл бұрын
it would as recommended by Tony Cake
@TheMadmacs
@TheMadmacs 4 жыл бұрын
its hard to imagine the immersion rc guys didnt send you one already, i'd just ask painless360. long range radio and you didnt send one to the inav guy?, doesn't sound right
@jack2holland
@jack2holland 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a comparison of the r9, crossfire, ghost, frm302 , maybe a Crystal and maybe something else on the market in a future vedio
@jack2holland
@jack2holland 3 жыл бұрын
And a stock radio too
@paulbizard3493
@paulbizard3493 4 жыл бұрын
I suppose all the systems are almost equivalent - performance wise. We'll see about quality. Anyway the TBS IRC Frsky Flysky competition is good for everybody.
@KrotowX
@KrotowX 4 жыл бұрын
Seems nice except problems with telemetry and no OpenTX support. When these two will become available, I most likely will upgrade to this. I'm curious about support in Taranis Q X7, because I have two of them. First generation QX7 have hardware speed issues with CrossFire. Seems it may need same transistor replacement for ImmersionRC Ghost as well.
@FreelojoFPV
@FreelojoFPV 4 жыл бұрын
I watched the interview a couple times and the dev was testing it with the 2014 and 2019 QX7, so makes me want it even more.
@zmanphx
@zmanphx 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any hardware difference or changes since QX7 first came out? I just bought the Access version of Qx7. I am assuming it is the same MCU.
@FreelojoFPV
@FreelojoFPV 4 жыл бұрын
@@zmanphx that I am unsure about, I have a QX7S and have already done the transistor mod for crsf and am kinda hoping ghost will still be compatible.
@MrVasmikey
@MrVasmikey 4 жыл бұрын
Thx Pawel. Not really a factor until the next release of OpenTx
@brodog5734
@brodog5734 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info . Will it work withQx7 without any mods ?
@davey911
@davey911 4 жыл бұрын
Not directly related, but hoping you could give some opinion on the ExpressLRS system for those of us who are not too happy with their R9M performance from Frsky.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
well, it's the same hardware under the hood
@davey911
@davey911 4 жыл бұрын
@@FPVUniversity Yes, same hardware but according to the developer in rcgroups, there is a 8dbm improvement. I'd like to try it but there's no going back and I don't see much feedback on it. Thanks for the reply.
@bassohollic
@bassohollic 4 жыл бұрын
@@davey911 John the expressLRS discord and ask questions. I am working on a expressLRS 2.4 from scratch
@bleeksbentbits3150
@bleeksbentbits3150 4 жыл бұрын
Ghost Red (433) interests me, but there seems to be nothing but a couple of photos....
@changeagent228
@changeagent228 4 жыл бұрын
433Mhz sounds better. At least you could argue it's better than Crossfire for penetration and range at a given transmit power. That said Dragon link uses 433Mhz and is stable and out now.
@don83030
@don83030 4 жыл бұрын
And is really expensive. Let's see how good the 433mhz version will be
@bleeksbentbits3150
@bleeksbentbits3150 4 жыл бұрын
Dragon Link may be out, but apart from being really expensive is also damn near impossible to either buy (waiting list) & customer support sporadic at best to the point that online discussion groups provide a better service. Some folks have been left wondering if the company is still even trading!
@changeagent228
@changeagent228 4 жыл бұрын
@@bleeksbentbits3150 Yeah true I looked into it recently and decided to stick with crossfire and upgrade to the v2 micro module or the lite full sized.
@ray4lsd
@ray4lsd 4 жыл бұрын
Are there any predictions out yet how ghost will behave in terms of penetration compared to crossfire?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
penetration depends on the frequency, not the manufacturer itself. You can compute it yourself www.everythingrf.com/rf-calculators/free-space-path-loss-calculator for any frequency you want. But if penetration would be the only factor, we all would be using 27MHz Sanwa radios. And we do not :)
@ray4lsd
@ray4lsd 4 жыл бұрын
@@FPVUniversity Thank you for the link and sorry for my inacurate question. I was interested in how obstacles like trees, bushes or walls would impact the signal, compared to CF which seems, at least in my experience a bit more robust than 2.4 in that regard but you cant really compare frsky 2.4 and CF anyways
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
@@ray4lsd ask yourself a diufferent question: how those obstacles affect 5.8GHz video that has even weaker penetration
@ray4lsd
@ray4lsd 4 жыл бұрын
@@FPVUniversity with brute force basicly :|
@EndiHamid
@EndiHamid 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just a minute ago i found out banggod’s preorder is on!
@erlandfpv
@erlandfpv 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, , , xm+ is good enough.. but this is awesome moree.....
@rollinswaltchack1562
@rollinswaltchack1562 4 жыл бұрын
Good vid, but (to me) it feels like your ripping off Joshua Bardwell's videos
@yngndrw.
@yngndrw. 4 жыл бұрын
222.22Hz doesn't sound like a good idea to me, microcontrollers tend to not like fractional maths. It just sounds like a load of marketing non-sense to me and I can't take it seriously because of this, for me the claims about the system has lost credibility because of this.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
This 222.22 is only a cool marketing catch phrase. When you go to the time domain, it's just 4,5ms
@yngndrw.
@yngndrw. 4 жыл бұрын
@@FPVUniversity Oops I totally missed that - You're right, that makes a lot more sense now.
@zigmar7
@zigmar7 4 жыл бұрын
@@yngndrw. also computer do not base their clock frequencies and time measurements on human time units. So it is perfectly normal to get frequency generator that is not multiple of seconds.
@mrcheng6797
@mrcheng6797 4 жыл бұрын
always bla bla bla talking~~~
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