Immortal Wukong: The Jenua Counter or PVE GOD? - First Thoughts & Initial Impressions [EPIC SEVEN]

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im_Tsu

24 күн бұрын

BUT CAN HE BEAT GOKU THO?
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@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 24 күн бұрын
Watch Tristen's Takes Here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gd-ha9qUtt-XqoE.html
@zenderdravnn4421
@zenderdravnn4421 24 күн бұрын
At this point, they might as well release a knight arti with team penetration resistance and throw that shit on trozet's s2 as well, like 50%. Maybe give that to a SC hasol??
@AdrianBigyes
@AdrianBigyes 24 күн бұрын
Guess time! Maybe Wukong's video is not available yet, coz it shows gameplay around the new rift.
@oggrim2824
@oggrim2824 24 күн бұрын
Animations are on reddit
@kinggenejohnson
@kinggenejohnson 24 күн бұрын
I thought 50% penetration is massive considering how defense scaling works. Like Hwayoung difference between 100% defense pen and 80% defense is noticeable 😊
@GamingShin07
@GamingShin07 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the information
@ShinPokesaurus
@ShinPokesaurus 24 күн бұрын
Ayyy, can't wait to see the animations for Wu Kong. I am curious on how he's going to be built since he has Arunka's statline (no innate crit chance). Great videos as always though!
@BigDaddyRich69
@BigDaddyRich69 24 күн бұрын
Animations are on reddit
@darkwizard655
@darkwizard655 24 күн бұрын
Animations are on reddit
@kiprasking8581
@kiprasking8581 24 күн бұрын
Jenua is annoying but Phantom is the real pain in the universe...
@GamingShin07
@GamingShin07 24 күн бұрын
Yeh she procs them its annoying, rage characters all have some kind of ignore eff res or specialty attack
@xFlow777
@xFlow777 24 күн бұрын
I feel like politis alone ain't a houge problem, as long as jenua can't delete 2 of your units turns 1 and 2. If it's just ml politis it's not that bad, just jenua is still a problem
@kiprasking8581
@kiprasking8581 24 күн бұрын
@@xFlow777 There's less and less Jenua in Arena, but still hard to find a team without Phantom. She just allows way too much cancer in. Like making candy and ayufine a problem again...not to mention ml haste and ml Senya just fit right in with her...Is there a situation she's not good?
@xFlow777
@xFlow777 24 күн бұрын
@@kiprasking8581 that's because he's getting baned all the time, if you're not picking jenua what are you doing? Probably don't have him or it's banned one of the 2.
@kiprasking8581
@kiprasking8581 24 күн бұрын
​@@xFlow777 Meant more in Arena. Where you can't avoid the nonsense
@phantom_darklight2332
@phantom_darklight2332 24 күн бұрын
Okay, let’s talk about def pen. First, you compare Riolet S3 to Jenua S3. Well, let’s look at those moves multipliers: 1.3 for Riolet. 0.32 for Jenua. Jenua will hit for more than 4 times less(he also has less POW multiplier as well) compared to Riolet on equal stats if Jenua's S3 is brought down to 50% def pen from 100% Second, removing some of def pen from full pen moves usually leads to MASSIVE loss of damage. I think I was calculating Straze and A.Laika damage for PvE and going from 100% def pen on Straze to A.Laika’s 80% resulted in damage getting cut in HALF. That’s why you see Straze one-shotting PvE bosses left and right and never see Laika doing it. Third, yes, removing 50% def pen from full pen moves indeed do not equal cutting damage in half. It’s actually much, much more. I think on 1200 def Wukong Jenua will be doing 3 times less damage compared to what he normaly does. Same for Laia, Haste and Senya, however Senya also has her Oath fixed damage and 3F.
@Mithrandir007
@Mithrandir007 21 күн бұрын
Glad you typed that already, was gonna say the same.. there is absolutely no way Jenua can kill a 15-17k Wukong with S3 even if his def is not high. Not even close. He completely relies on 100% pen to deal damage with his S3, given the multipliers. Even 95% pen would reduce his damage dramatically.
@nicholassitter6400
@nicholassitter6400 23 күн бұрын
We'll have to see what his arti is but putting him on snow Crystal seems like a no brainer.
@andreashidle823
@andreashidle823 24 күн бұрын
I appreciate you covering this, and I agree on the design, he’s a breath of fresh air. But Tsu, with the exception of Straze, aren’t you comparing his dmg to non-crit dmg dealers? I’m thinking you might be underselling it considering all the factors. I guess we just have to wait and see, but outside of the obvious rift role, I think he’s gonna be a monster gw offense unit with the right support.
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 24 күн бұрын
Maybe I am underselling him. I had a long discussion with one of my best friends about him after I made this video. His penetration resistance actually makes him pretty solid versus ML Haste & ML Senya...surprisingly. I thought he'd be bad versus them but the way their skills are worded, he should be able to survive them. He might actually be better than I gave him credit. Once we see his Soulburn & Artifact, I will most likely do a follow up/update talking about him.
@r34l1z3r
@r34l1z3r 24 күн бұрын
Warriors also have access to snow crystal artifact to get extra 20% crit resistance + push up
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 24 күн бұрын
That...sounds really good actually!
@r34l1z3r
@r34l1z3r 24 күн бұрын
@@im_Tsu Also Luna is capable of having 100% crit resistance (30% passive, 20% snow crystal, 50% from crit rez buff(Diene/Candy). Trying to make her great again.
@fuchsenlp
@fuchsenlp 24 күн бұрын
@@r34l1z3r crit res works additive?
@r34l1z3r
@r34l1z3r 24 күн бұрын
​@@fuchsenlp Yes, it is additive with 100% cap. But elemental advantage adds 15% crit hit chance on top. So fire unit will have 15% critting Senya/Wukong under crit rez buff. And probably dark unit will have 15% of critting Candy under crit rez buff too.
@Mofumofusan314
@Mofumofusan314 24 күн бұрын
I think I'm going to mess around with revenge set on him
@abdulzaelani9954
@abdulzaelani9954 24 күн бұрын
Penetration res is new for hero tho, you could expect this became a thing for more heroes and will literally kill all the def pen hero (BM haste, bride senya, pretty much everyone that currently meta tbh) Also man seems like they know ice heroes are all too broken so they choose earth first for rift, i dont even have that many full build earth hero yet. Atleast green bellona get a new job
@aaccheru4245
@aaccheru4245 24 күн бұрын
if he had sustain on S1 he would be a solid unit and build him on revenge set
@Dee-yj1im
@Dee-yj1im 24 күн бұрын
Since i am a returning player and missed so many limited and summer limited, i’ll skip him and wait for Midnight Gala
@etras1320
@etras1320 24 күн бұрын
Wukong is a warrior so you can equip Snow Crystal for +20% Critical Hit Resistance
@jeremywhatley8387
@jeremywhatley8387 24 күн бұрын
And a CR boost on top of that. Could be good with a bruiser build. Immediately thought of that when I saw his kit
@Loserstakethebait
@Loserstakethebait 24 күн бұрын
Idk why everyone is focusing so hard on Jenua. Wukong looks to be a very obvious BM Haste counter. Jenua matches are clearly not his strength. BM Haste can't do shit to him, he can't 1 shot him without an ally dying first, if he double hits Wukong then Wuking gets 40% atk and 40% spd. Moreover, Wukong will be faster than most Hastes. Also, Haste can't do nearly as much dmg to him due to pen res.
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 24 күн бұрын
This is actually what my friend said to me when I talked to him about the character an hour or two ago. I think both you & him are actually quite right.
@eugenejohnson1867
@eugenejohnson1867 24 күн бұрын
@@im_Tsu also defense penetration scales differently. Like 50% penetration resists makes a lot of characters damage DROPS a lot since their damage is balanced around the opponent not having any defense factored in. BMH damages drops off a cliff when you seal him and Hwayoung/ CPavel damage drops off heavily too when they don't reach full pen. Like I believe a 35% drop is cutting damage by MORE than HALF against full penetration targets which is massive; even more if it's 50% after Molas if I'm assuming things right. Riolet hits like a truck even with 50% defense pen because his other multis are much higher than units that just straight up ignore defense. So a bulky Wukong is never getting blown up by Jenua just due to how defense penetration works when it drops.
@rising-bd8ls
@rising-bd8ls 24 күн бұрын
On snow crystal on counter build with some protection and healing I think he can be good
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 24 күн бұрын
Actually...that sounds really good! Hmm... lots of testing to be done.
@rising-bd8ls
@rising-bd8ls 24 күн бұрын
Sounds fun yea unless his artifact gives attack and further reduces penetration damage I would run snow crystal​@@im_Tsu
@gryma1313
@gryma1313 21 күн бұрын
He can't use AoE on s1 unless it's his own turn sadly (if you want to use counter set for more AoE attacks)
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 21 күн бұрын
@gryma1313 I think the point is the Barrier on counter. If it's pretty chunky he becomes super hard to kill.
@hanzulco
@hanzulco 24 күн бұрын
When will he released anyway? Next week or next next week?
@BigDaddyRich69
@BigDaddyRich69 24 күн бұрын
20th so next week
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 24 күн бұрын
The 20th of June I believe.
@hanzulco
@hanzulco 24 күн бұрын
@@im_Tsu i see... Thanks for the info
@NotKermith
@NotKermith 24 күн бұрын
juat give jenua the hwa treatment pls
@templexdank2933
@templexdank2933 24 күн бұрын
Girl-
@fabianbriceno3527
@fabianbriceno3527 24 күн бұрын
He's gonna be good vs Karina too ❤
@RoseZ7323
@RoseZ7323 24 күн бұрын
Wukong + Choux Artifact sounds nice imo That's 70% Anti Crit Then also boost him when it happens Similar logic to Choux And when paired with stuff like Choux & Candy, their buffs make it impossible to crit him just like its done with Senya
@NEYZYs
@NEYZYs 24 күн бұрын
In upcoming rift just put Senya in front and job done
@dark9nine
@dark9nine 24 күн бұрын
He looks INSANE, like WTF
@templexdank2933
@templexdank2933 24 күн бұрын
Girl dont lie
@mlgrrd4718
@mlgrrd4718 24 күн бұрын
Bruiser Mucacha FTW
@sijackex305
@sijackex305 23 күн бұрын
I dont understand why leaks are a nad thing. Can someone elaborate why know that something that might change is happening in the future?
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 23 күн бұрын
Let me give you an example: Let's say you're Smilegate. Your player base needs an answer to this "Jenua" character that everyone keeps complaining about. You pay your employees a bunch of money to design this character's kit. You hire artists to come up with concept art for them. You hire animators to create their attack animations & live 2D art. You hire game testers to make sure there aren't any bugs and that the character is relatively balanced. You hire voice actors for the character in several different languages. You hire some video editors to put together a trailer & pay someone to voice it. You pay ad companies a bunch of money to promote the ever living crap out of your new character to drive hype for them. Oh but wait. This character has to come out on June 20th! That's 2 weeks from now! And Apple & Google won't let us collect any revenue from the App Store if we don't submit our new update in advance for review. So you submit the newest patch for review. Players get their hands on the patch and dig through the game's code and see your shiny new character in the code. They pull it out, take a look at it. One person, who just happens to be a content creator, takes a look at the character and goes "HEY GUYS! IT'S SHIT!" Your entire player base doesn't think the character is good and doesn't want to pull for it. Meanwhile, your animators haven't finished everything yet, the character's balance isn't 100% yet, the trailer you spent thousands of dollars on isn't done, and you've already signed thousands of dollars worth of deals to promote the crap out of this character. Basically, your business is going to potentially take a hit money-wise cause a rough draft was discovered early. This means you're less likely to invest or try as hard in the future if this character bombs. What's the point if all our hard work is just...discovered early, before we're ready to present it? What was the point of hiring all those workers and spending all those hours? That said, the opposite side of the coin is similar. If you're looking to not spend as much money and use your resources smart...you are thankful for leaks. It's a give & take. It's nice to know they exist...but they absolutely do hurt the company (and by extension the game) long term.
@OneMoreDesu
@OneMoreDesu 24 күн бұрын
Not going to be pulling for him I don't think. I like his AOE S1, but not enough to entice me to dump bookmarks on him. Would prefer another good defense scaling warrior to eat up some of my stranger stat pieces.
@LowProductionValues-fj2nu
@LowProductionValues-fj2nu 24 күн бұрын
SAM is that you?
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 24 күн бұрын
You would not believe your eyes... something something Fireflies.
@skyblue-fp5ul
@skyblue-fp5ul 24 күн бұрын
2nd
@HenriqueRJchiki
@HenriqueRJchiki 24 күн бұрын
what jenua doesn't have 200er nowadays bro LMAO
@xFlow777
@xFlow777 24 күн бұрын
I agree with you, Jenua counter my ass, if you can die in 1 turn, you are not jenua counter, and he sure as hell can die to jenua in the opener, 50/50 anti crit and boom he's dead.
@JusSick24
@JusSick24 23 күн бұрын
Leaks hurt the money hungry company??? Who tf cares. This gives people a chance to save in all forms of currency. I like the game but the monetization practices and pretty much gambling are characteristics of a slime gaming company.
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 23 күн бұрын
They do, which in turn hurts the game. You're not wrong or unjustified in your feelings though. I'm all for protecting the consumer from practices like this. Games as a service is, to be honest, kind of a mistake. But Pandora's Box has been opened. My goal has always been to help my viewers. Hence my comment about how I felt the need to make this video, cause not doing so is a disservice to my community. That said, I still have to disclaimer it cause that same company will come for me if I don't. Understand?
@-8h-
@-8h- 24 күн бұрын
Or they could, you know, start balancing the game
@im_Tsu
@im_Tsu 24 күн бұрын
What? Why would they do that?
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