Immortals don’t counter strafe in valorant…Here’s why

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Sondo301

Sondo301

Жыл бұрын

Immortals do NOT Counter Strafe in Valorant. After watching this video you’ll know exactly why. It’s just unnecessary considering that you have to think about so many things. It would be better for you to put focus in your game plan and aim. This way all you have to do is release your movement key and you won’t have to be concerned if you timed your counter strafe properly. Of course this is a heavily debated topic so let me know what you think down below in the comments. Thank you and Duce Duce.
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@maskangel
@maskangel Жыл бұрын
for me, counterstrafing is a lot more consistent. pressing a key makes it easier to hit the timing, because i know i shoot after i hit the key. letting go of a key is really awkward for me. it might just be because i've played cs for years and always counterstrafed.
@magikz300
@magikz300 Жыл бұрын
Same bro we’re wired to counterstrafe
@sncaz1767
@sncaz1767 Жыл бұрын
legit its entered our genetic code at this point lmao
@ominously2574
@ominously2574 Жыл бұрын
@@sncaz1767I think it’s apart of my ancestors now
@desipinkman4353
@desipinkman4353 Жыл бұрын
xD
@nuggetz9380
@nuggetz9380 Жыл бұрын
Facts!!!
@Noahjowow
@Noahjowow Жыл бұрын
I heard Shroud mention that you can shoot almost instantly after you let go of the movement key. I didn't understand this untill recently and this has been a major benefit for me and my gameplay
@idrilian2582
@idrilian2582 Жыл бұрын
Também faço isso quando vejo um inimigo ou continuo andando pro lado até ele dá o primeiro tiro, aí eu paro, dou 2 tiros e ando pro outro lado. Também, de phantom, ando pro lado e assim que um inimigo aparece na minha tela ando pro lado oposto e atiro quase instantaneamente, The Range é bom treinar o time (I also do this when I see an enemy or I keep walking to the side until he takes the first shot, then I stop, take 2 shots and walk to the other side. Also, from phantom, I walk to the side and as soon as an enemy appears on my screen I walk to the opposite side and shoot almost instantly, The Range is good to train the time)
@nailer10
@nailer10 Жыл бұрын
dont listen to this
@Samuel-rz8tp
@Samuel-rz8tp Жыл бұрын
That is called deadzoning
@kaslofchen257
@kaslofchen257 Жыл бұрын
Do you use counter strafing?
@NNiico_o
@NNiico_o Жыл бұрын
i feel like this a true, coming for counter strike, counter staffing is ways different from cs to valorant and its better to just stop, compared to counter staffing, Counter staffing in cs was used to stop right away because your character moves even after letting go of the d or a key in valorant you stop right away.
@hatto
@hatto Жыл бұрын
I think counterstrafing is still useful though, but just don't fully stop. It's useful on a quick jiggle for a 1-tap attempt to immediately hide after the shot. I know you kinda covered it with the jiggling part, but just wanna point that out as well.
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
It can be helpful but anyone who isn’t a professional player should not be concerned of learning the mechanic. I know there’s a lot of pros who don’t. So it’s up to your preference.
@AlltyIronside
@AlltyIronside Жыл бұрын
​@@sondo301_ In video like this you should say something like : " you dont have to learn it. but you can use it if you have already learn it." Bet theres a ton of ppl that came from CS, seen video like this and spent time to "unlearn" counterstrafing. Rewriting muscle memory like that is insanely huge and unnecessary step. otherwise for new ppl i would say its a relief, its much easier to learn your timings without one more key right.
@hatto
@hatto Жыл бұрын
@golden fefe bruh
@aoki7799
@aoki7799 Жыл бұрын
Even shroud said dont counterstrafe in valorant because you stop so quickly by releasing the keys
@DeepfriedBeans4492
@DeepfriedBeans4492 Жыл бұрын
@@AlltyIronside yeah, and if you still play csgo too then unlearning counterstrafing will harm you in that game for no benefit in valorant, so may as well do it if you're comfortable with it
@teddyseba
@teddyseba Жыл бұрын
As a very consistent Immortal player myself, who doesn’t play anymore, I find myself watching these videos mainly out of curiosity rather than to learn. I believe all these tips are useful! I subconsciously stopped doing this a few episodes ago and realize I mainly do it when I’m tilting. I don’t think it has a huge impact but the discipline you build off of tips such as these will all come together and make you an overall better player. Keep trying, but don’t make your overall playstyle about the shit you’ve seen on KZfaq. Valorant is the most fun when you can be yourself and play how you want, and still succeed.
@Ripsxw_
@Ripsxw_ Жыл бұрын
your commentary really inspires me frankly you put me a slap
@jerypilapil6560
@jerypilapil6560 Жыл бұрын
More people needs to read this. A lot of people religiously follows their idols or whatever they see in yt
@howdy8340
@howdy8340 Жыл бұрын
nice content bro my main issue in valorant for sure it's counter-strafe I always get too nervous from care to much in hit counter-strafe accurate and I just forgot to aim or to pay attention in others game aspects, so I run some dm's just letting the button and I feel my aim way more confident and I feel that I was really aiming and hitting heads, I'll try it out for sure. Hope u stay with ur content it's really good and have helped me a lot!
@spiartslite3233
@spiartslite3233 Жыл бұрын
Oh that's actually really informative, and also good to see that u made the text have an outline in the thumbnail :D
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Haha yessir thank you for the tips
@ItzNo0b
@ItzNo0b Жыл бұрын
i noticed beforehand i was doing this unintentionally without knowing. It actually explains why some days when i tend to drone out i do better but when i’m more focused i do worse
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Don’t focus on your mechanics but the game. Like if you over think your aim your aim will suck. Instead think about where enemies are positioned and your gameplan
@xtremefps_
@xtremefps_ Жыл бұрын
More autopilot less worry
@Max_Matrix
@Max_Matrix Жыл бұрын
@@sondo301_ i find it to be the exact opposite for me, actually. When im trying to think about where enemies are positioned and how to play for spike etc. My aim sucks. I hop into a deathmatch where aim is the only thing im focused on and i dominate.
@ItzNo0b
@ItzNo0b Жыл бұрын
@@xtremefps_ that is exactly how it is for me, i tend to do so much better with i autopilot, but i don’t know how to autopilot more and worry less
@xtremefps_
@xtremefps_ Жыл бұрын
@@ItzNo0b ya know your empty box where you go and just zone out and literally think of nothing? Do that and let your hands take control. Eventually you can do it without needing to go to the nothing box.
@tracjng
@tracjng Жыл бұрын
So ive been jiggling for 2 years in valorant?
@nickrl113
@nickrl113 Жыл бұрын
Counter-strafing is a mechanic useful in CS:GO and other 'pure' (using Source physics as-is) Source games because player characters in the Source engine have a significant deceleration period when you release movement keys. Counter-strafing cuts this time very quickly by starting movement in the opposite direction. The Source Engine is also specifically coded to stop your momentum immediately if you press an input opposing your current velocity (See: accidentally stopping mid-air as scout tf2). Valorant is not a Source Engine game (it's Unreal Engine). The physics are not the same. Player characters lack that long deceleration period that makes counter-strafing useful. Counter-strafing has anywhere between no impact to a very, very small impact on this stopping time. Most players will find this difference basically negligible. Some players find that timing their shots for 0 movement error is easier when counter-strafing as a result of muscle memory. These players are free to continue counter-strafing as they wish. Some players find that timing their shots for 0 movement error is harder when counter-strafing as a result of extra inputs and timings (even compared to jiggling-- releasing the counter-strafe is also a learned timing). These players should not counter-strafe. Just do the thing that gets you comfortably shooting bullets near the location of your crosshair
@duquelouis
@duquelouis Ай бұрын
this was definetly a good perspective. I would say it is better said that in the video because of the science of it you've metioned. Thanks for the insight
@justmatu._6225
@justmatu._6225 Жыл бұрын
thnx bro!! it really helps to see another perspective of the mechanics
@renatoruiz6609
@renatoruiz6609 Жыл бұрын
Hey yo, this was really usefull, I had no ideia! Thank you for the tips
@gabdielcrespo7384
@gabdielcrespo7384 Жыл бұрын
I've been unintentionally using both depending on the situation, you should master both so your movement is a lot more diverse.
@kaifreecss
@kaifreecss Жыл бұрын
i started following u a week ago.. now i feel my aim is smoother now. Thanks for u advice 💕
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
No problem, I’ll come out with some more aiming stuff soon
@dankmemester1066
@dankmemester1066 Жыл бұрын
i think for some ppl who are already used to counter strafing they're still gonna do it. i like to think of it as the stride in a baseball swing; a lot of ppl think the stride is for power, but its actually for timing (if you stride in baseball for power and shift your wait during the stride you'll become unbalanced and be unable to hit the ball, your weight shift comes moreso from your pivot). in that sense its a fairly meaningless action, as you can technically just time the pitch in your head and swing normally (as the stride adds no strength or speed to your swing). similarly, i think for a lot of ppl counterstrafing is not for stopping faster, but for timing your shots when you stop. especially since letting go of a key to stop strafing is more of a passive act, so its harder to process it as a timing mechanism.
@lewe2364
@lewe2364 Жыл бұрын
thanks for this vid ive been trying to learn counter strafing for quite some time, but I never achieved perfection. so this vid gave me hope that i might just did it the wrong way and now ima just try this technique :) thanks very much
@emptynevermore
@emptynevermore Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video I hope it helps me
@cagethelonewolf
@cagethelonewolf Жыл бұрын
thanks for telling us about the graph, it single handly changes the learning curve, without it you'll never assume that your doing it correctly, but with the graph you can see you are jigglign at max speed without failing a shot
@udukamjoku8860
@udukamjoku8860 Жыл бұрын
I've heard for a while ppl say counterstrafing was pointless in val but until I actually learned how to counter strafe, getting those first contact kills were 50/50. Yes I see it's LESS USEFUL then when used in CSGO but to say it's useless is a understatement imo. Whenever I get my timing down with my counterstrafes and hop in ranked, my accuracy is much more consistent and this is largely why I was able to rank up. Jiggling is something Ive always tried to do and can do it's just not as effective from what I've seen in my gameplay
@sev8608
@sev8608 Жыл бұрын
For me personally, I aim by how the bullets/recoil feel and movement coordination. I practice A LOT in The Range, and I tend to warm up by trying to feel where the bullets are going and how to move to be accurate and evasive. But my playstyle is more of prediction, trapping, and lurking. So I play controllers and initiators more than Duelists.
@computer8490
@computer8490 Жыл бұрын
Same bro
@keawmlbb
@keawmlbb Жыл бұрын
after following the tips you gave, now I'm always on top of the frag, thanks bro
@keawmlbb
@keawmlbb Жыл бұрын
but sometimes if I've been playing for too long I sometimes forget the tips, the second problem is in my movement my aim is now increasing rapidly, but it's just the movement problem
@A0TES
@A0TES Жыл бұрын
counter strafe is a extra bonus i think, good video bro!
@n8ssy
@n8ssy Жыл бұрын
It's easier to do a mix between the two rather then completely switching to one or the other. I counter-strafe simply because of muscle memory and it doesn't falter my gameplay. I don't counter-strafe when I jiggle peak or peak CERTAIN angles in the game, so I can do both just fine. I think it's personal preference though and whatever you're more comfortable with. A lot of pros have mastered counter-strafing so counter-strafing hasn't been rendered completely useless & unnecessary as most of these videos state.
@migsalmayda6354
@migsalmayda6354 Жыл бұрын
i agree with you its muscle memory when you are playing
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@lonelyseeker5832
@lonelyseeker5832 Жыл бұрын
i wish i knew this before from the monment i started playing CSGO and even when i started playing valorant i used counter strafe and it makes sense why i whiff my first shot most of the time... altho its the most accurate shot and with counter strafe too... this is gonna take ALOT OF TIME to get used to, anyways thanks for the advice!!!!! LOVE YOU
@FeqZGalaxy
@FeqZGalaxy Жыл бұрын
Easy fix for the counter strafe timing: Wooting 60HE. It's equipped with analog switches which can be adjusted in 0.1mm steps. You can also enable a feature which allows to turn off a switch by releasing the key by only 0.1mm so if you let go of let's say A or D, you will instantly stop moving. It helped me alot. W keyboard hands down
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
That’s so crazy, pay to win.
@CrystonStreams
@CrystonStreams Жыл бұрын
While this helps you to win your games, I prefer to not use illigal hardware/software that you would not be allowed to use during a tournament.
@user-fi3cn3np9b
@user-fi3cn3np9b 11 ай бұрын
@@CrystonStreams how is that illegal lmao? source : "trust me bro" ? lol
@9W0o
@9W0o 10 ай бұрын
​@@CrystonStreamsit's legal
@CorrosiveCitrus
@CorrosiveCitrus 3 ай бұрын
@@CrystonStreams It's just a keyboard
@breezeless_7665
@breezeless_7665 Жыл бұрын
That is very true, as a csgo player I still have the habit of counter strafing when it isn’t necessary. It is also much harder due to your character immediately stoping after releasing your movement key which would end up making you move the other way when missing a counter strafe, and the reward is only a few frames of advantage. It is not worth investing time on counter strafing when there is so much more to learn and work on to improve in the game
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@brokyyy
@brokyyy Жыл бұрын
Great tip, thanks!
@AvylTheArtist
@AvylTheArtist Жыл бұрын
I believe that this the only thing that's been hindering me to high elo. Because since I was bronze to diamond, I religiously practiced counterstrafing and i still dont hit shots, critical shots that i need to high in my games.... Thanks Sondo!!!!!!!
@L0uiS_
@L0uiS_ Жыл бұрын
Facts bro🔥sick video
@Aimaxnj_ellojaja
@Aimaxnj_ellojaja 2 ай бұрын
Tysm bro u tole us and explain what exactly we face and mistake that we all understood wrong
@MrShator
@MrShator Жыл бұрын
greate video ! im not a very good player but sometimes im using A/D keys to correct my aim idk 🤔what it called but ig im doing great job xd
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
You are :)
@tvgirlenjoyer_
@tvgirlenjoyer_ Жыл бұрын
instead of releasing the other key, does holding both key also work? for example if im holding a to move, then i hold both a and d together to stop then release one
@user-hf7ub6gc7v
@user-hf7ub6gc7v Жыл бұрын
bro i did all these drills once or twice and when i got on i wasnt missing. ty
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Word
@johnethandelosreyes
@johnethandelosreyes Ай бұрын
I got so used to counter strafing in cs I keep doing it in valorant. Thanks for sharing this info, that's why I see my bullets go to the side of the head haha.
@eternaleffect2499
@eternaleffect2499 Жыл бұрын
instead of letting they key go i m trying to hold the opp key so like pressing both A and D at the same time it stops me completely normally and then i let go one depending on where i want to move and dodge next.
@user-yg1be5bp6t
@user-yg1be5bp6t Жыл бұрын
Another silly question, how to pratice jiggling, I try but there are about 2 or 3 of the 10 will shift (blue in shooting error), but counterstrafing or just stop is more percise(almost no blue bar in shooting error) but slower then jiggling
@TheAndreas2300
@TheAndreas2300 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, this is actually a helpful video
@CliveOwenNZata
@CliveOwenNZata Жыл бұрын
no joke, this information helped me headshot a lot!
@Purified1k
@Purified1k Жыл бұрын
I've always counter strafed for years. It's not something I can really stop doing. I mean, I suppose it barely affects me. But since the movement is definitely more sensitive, I have messed my strafe up before, but not often.
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Those not often times can cost you games though. I had to learn how to stop as well but it’s paid off a lot and I’m a lot more confident in my gameplay because I know that the 20% chance my strafe messes up my recoil is no more.
@zenq7813
@zenq7813 Жыл бұрын
assuming that you came from csgo because you said "i've always counter strafed for years" counter strafing isnt something that requires special practice, I, myself started doing it unconsciously after roughly 1 year of playing csgo, it isnt a hard to learn or hard to master technique its just about familiarizing with it, counter strafing does give you an advantage in valorant, despite what some people would say, it gives a very small advantage that is overlooked because of its pros and cons, i don't think it can mess up your strafe if you learned and familiarized with the technique, and definitely you shouldnt try to kill your muscle memory because of some videos, while i do agree that you shouldnt try to learn to counter strafe in valorant if you didnt switch from csgo, i dont think you should blame a mechanic just because you haven't learned it to use it properly, i don't think there is a time i lost a fight because I "messed up" my counter strafe, also, there is no way your counter strafe will remove the first bullet accuracy of your shot because you literally just tap the opposite key of what your are holding when you commit to the peek. those streamers you guys watch, like tenz shahzam or zellsis for example, all came from csgo, they all counter strafe, and still somehow dont mess up their strafe...
@runek100
@runek100 Жыл бұрын
@@zenq7813 yeah when I started csgo I was learning counter strife, b hop movement etc and it was hard to use. I didn't get how people can do it so naturally. But it really came just from playing game and you burn it into your brain. I can't switch it off rn. I heard that just letting key go is enough, but it is impossible to do that for some reason.
@zenq7813
@zenq7813 Жыл бұрын
@@runek100 ik you dont have to worry about killing muscle memory, the same goes with crouching, eventually as you go higher in elo you are going to stop crouching at every gun fight, deleting the keybind in my opinion is a cheap way to try to cheat the system, if you look at the current pros, most of them crouch because they came from csgo, yet they still are the best in the game, for reference, tenz, yay and tarik...
@runek100
@runek100 Жыл бұрын
@@zenq7813 well yeah washed csgo pros are much better than any valo pro. I think it is just because of their mechanical skill. I have blast just playing sheriff and masrhal, couze there is no opposition. Also I don't get how people can play vandal, I refuse to play gun with random recoil:D
@adityasingh8545
@adityasingh8545 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's true it doesn't change much xd but i come from csgo and i have habit of counter strafing and i can't stop lmao underrated channel btw 👍+1 sub
@prabhavdhanesha7036
@prabhavdhanesha7036 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip, I'm now signed to global eSports tournaments
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Gotchu bro
@Thea269
@Thea269 Жыл бұрын
It has been researched by od26 counterstrafing can give you at most 6ms on a timing window that pros never hit for example zekken was asked to show keyboard overlay by od and he let go and counterstrafed but never hit the window if it feels more natural do it if it doesnt your not gonna lose anything its useful in csgo I hit top 100 faceit and I had counterstrafing then huge difference but val nothing changes
@falcon4359
@falcon4359 Жыл бұрын
We shouldn't counter strafe while 'slicing the pie' too? I was always confused on that part coz while A-D peeking we do press the opposite key.
@qzerzae4032
@qzerzae4032 Жыл бұрын
I've compared the two, and counter strafe seems to reset the crosshair movement slightly faster, (if u want to know like basically, when i was counter strafing my crosshair was moving from let's say phase 1 to phase 3 instantly, like phase 1 = i'm running so my crosshair isn't precise and phase 3 = standing still and completly precise) i did exactly the same without counter strafe and my crosshair was moving from phase 1 to phase 2 and finally phase 3. So i think there is a difference but u think it's completly negligeable right ?
@Defury8285
@Defury8285 2 ай бұрын
its been tested, Zekken couldnt consistently make cs better & neither can you. Placebo my dog.
@omniboredom6410
@omniboredom6410 Жыл бұрын
what if ur already used to counterstrafing from cs and its just muscle memory, is it a hinderance or can i do it just for muscle memory?
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
It won’t hold you back. Keep doing it. It’s just for people who don’t come from cs don’t have to learn the mechanic to stop their movement.
@seifhart6881
@seifhart6881 Жыл бұрын
my issue is that counter strafing has became a habit for me since i played csgo before valorant and i found it very difficult to get rid off
@manny_agre
@manny_agre Жыл бұрын
You should not get rid of it
@linkplays2952
@linkplays2952 Жыл бұрын
no reason to get rid of it they are basically the same thing
@Ptoki1
@Ptoki1 Жыл бұрын
I always thought counter strafing with either pressing opposite key or letting go off the key was the same thing but ive been just letting go my entire life lol
@catt0555
@catt0555 Жыл бұрын
this guy underatted af
@indrawandwiprasetyo5977
@indrawandwiprasetyo5977 Жыл бұрын
I still do this till now unconsciously, I tried to stop it off. But then, I realized I was using an optical keyboard instead of mechanical one. The key is so sensitive that a bit press will trigger an action. So, when my finger is on its way to let go of my key, the key is still registered, basically it needs my finger to not stressing the key at all. So yeah, I am still using counter strafing to counter my own keyboard sensitivity.
@KamiKomplex504
@KamiKomplex504 Жыл бұрын
You showed stutter stepping no? Jiggling uses counter strafing with alternating repetition that is not defined to require click timing. Stutter stepping uses counter strafing with random sideway but defined to be timed to shot timings. Both are strafing techniques. Releasing one key vs holding both keys to stop is the technique to achieve counter strafing, I coin it sideway vs inverted sideway movement aka press vs release. There is also the complication of movement mirror strafing or "counter" movement mirror strafing shortened to counter strafing. This form of counter strafing is a term in games without movement based bloom to refer to reacting to an enemy strafe (usually when trying to movement mirror for easier shots) and countering that movement to increase the difficulty of landing shots. Leading the strafing dance in this way gives you an edge in aim vs movement tradeoff as you have the control and therefore the anticipation in the strafing.
@huyvu5205
@huyvu5205 Жыл бұрын
Counterstrafe give your tiny extra timing to hit the shot accurate and fast. Sometimes you just no need that to fight against not strong- enough enemies, but in tournament where players'skills are nearly similar, you will see the differences if you do not counterstrafe against your enemy team, even low tier than you and your team.
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@josephray6264
@josephray6264 Жыл бұрын
its literally one frame difference, it would just be the same with the stop and shoot timing
@m4j0r3x
@m4j0r3x Жыл бұрын
Say i play alot of cod and apex legends, will this helps with me not able to counter strafe because my habit of hold and release ? I can consistently aim head because apex n cod tracking is much harder than valorant but they also doesn’t mess you up for moving n shooting
@keishi4557
@keishi4557 Жыл бұрын
@Sondo301 If we're just used to doing it its like a inconscient way of moving (its like this for me, and Im talking about counter strafe) so I don't bother 2 things but just 1 in the end so is it really worth it for me to leave counter strafe and go for jiggle ?
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
If you’re used to counter strafing then keep going if you’d like but you don’t need it to stop shooting. Also learn dead zoning which woohoojin goes over in depth in his videos.
@user-iv8je7dm8x
@user-iv8je7dm8x Жыл бұрын
So directly releaseing key is better than counterstrafing to stop character moving for precise shooting?
@classistfr
@classistfr Жыл бұрын
bro this whole time i been doing the csgo strafing i switch to this n it changed my whole skill level
@geliussun
@geliussun Жыл бұрын
I kinda got used to counter-strafing playing tf2 of all places, but I don't quite do it like in all counter-strafing guides. I don't let got of the initial strafe key, I just press the opposite one so it stops me. Is it still counter-straifing, am I just doing the worse version of not so good mechanic?
@paduz
@paduz Жыл бұрын
I'm so used to counterstrafing that even if it doesn't make a difference, it's still a thing I do
@zayy4299
@zayy4299 Жыл бұрын
ive been counterstrafing ever since playing this game but now i'm starting to learn to jiggle and it feels better ngl i wouldnt say counterstrafing is useless but jiggling vs counterstrafing is just a preference
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Wait what? I think you may be confused. It’s not choosing one or the other they are totally two different things used for different objectives. Jiggling is strafing from side to side. Counter strafe is just tapping the opposite key to stop your movement.
@simtonicc
@simtonicc 2 ай бұрын
i jiggle and i dont counter strafe but i still have both keys pressed down to stop as my bullets always land because i stopped on time, however when i let go off a key i still cant understand when i can shoot because i do it at the same time and my shots are off more often. btw i havent played much cs
@MiNo6000
@MiNo6000 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree with the accuracy of shots while counterstrafing isn't high despite the acceleration is literally zero and while I start to jiggling the shots suddenly destroy enemy head , actually I tried the game when it released and it wasn't the same after I tried yesterday this game mechanics is totally difference from counter strike
@mastAr0808
@mastAr0808 Жыл бұрын
1:13 u said if we don't perfectly hit counter key we'll throw off our recoil , how? If i don't hit counter key but released the key i was moving with , its same as not counter strafing , so what's diff if i counter strafe or not
@megalol1344
@megalol1344 Жыл бұрын
i used to just let go of the key but now i learned to counter strafe and letting go feels weird now
@yurisarawr
@yurisarawr Жыл бұрын
my roommate is ex radiant and current immortal and it’s weird seeing him not counter-strafe often i thought it was common
@youstedfortreder1203
@youstedfortreder1203 Жыл бұрын
Counter strafing is so ingrained into my brain i cant shoot without constantly counter strafing and crouching
@salmanalrasyidibnuabbas7324
@salmanalrasyidibnuabbas7324 Жыл бұрын
i used to play csgo back in the day, so im kinda used to counter strafing, should i keep doing it or just move to tht jiggling thingy? cuz i still use jiggle when i peek close corner... but i counter strafe when i commit a fight
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Watch woohoojins most recent video and it’ll give you more insight on whether you should continue or not. It’s just wasted presses. Traditional counter strafing in this game is just not needed.
@salmanalrasyidibnuabbas7324
@salmanalrasyidibnuabbas7324 Жыл бұрын
@@sondo301_ 🤣👍ah ok ok I'll watch it, maybe that's why I'm stuck at plat
@salmanalrasyidibnuabbas7324
@salmanalrasyidibnuabbas7324 Жыл бұрын
@@sondo301_ ah i forgot to thank u, so thanks 👍
@vladisslav7244
@vladisslav7244 Жыл бұрын
When playing, I don't use both of these mechanics, instead I turned on the dynamics for the sight, and shoot when the sight shows the minimum spread, it's much easier for me than catching timings when strafing
@DeathGambler
@DeathGambler Жыл бұрын
Also not counter strafing can also increase better habits among having peakers adv when you counter strafe the network of the shot for other people is getting further apart a youtuber explains this amazingly but when you swing out without counterstrafing the shots are more frequent also makes it harder to be hit
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Can you please send the link to the video
@Ravee_
@Ravee_ Жыл бұрын
I think it would be better to learn it because when your in the higher rank the quicker you stop the earlier you can shoot even if it is 0.05 or 0.5 it is still a big diff when it comes to higher rank. Counterstrafing is the same with jiggle picking thats why I think it is better to learn it and its not that hard to learn it you can even learn it just one day of playing with counterstrafe try doing it in dm
@VanessaSGamingParadise
@VanessaSGamingParadise Жыл бұрын
Humans are creatures of habbits and at some days i just dont get over not to counterstrafe. But yeah its true i felt that before i watching your video as well , i just stobled up on it today Release the key -> aim -> shot the target ; is really more beneficial than counterstrafing. And i am saying this after playing many many years in counterstrike.
@2210nico
@2210nico Жыл бұрын
Could you showcase an effective ~15 min aim routine?
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Will be my next video
@workscs
@workscs Жыл бұрын
I feel this only applies to people who dont already have CS experience. If you have to think about the counter strafe before shooting you shouldn't be doing it, but if you have the muscle memory already I don't see why it's worth trying to unlearn the mechanic.
@ZeeSample-SoloQ
@ZeeSample-SoloQ Жыл бұрын
Whenever I try to jiggle I get a headshot by the random bullets my enemy is spraying so I don't get it, is it my movement or is it my enemy which is good at controlling his spray or is it me being unlucky af.
@LeniusRiven
@LeniusRiven Жыл бұрын
Pros play this game for hours on end and practice specifically their first bullet accuracy. So they know how time their bullets without counter strafing. Most of us don't. I think counter strafing is good because it tells you instantly that you shoot after pressing the counter key(A or D). Maybe it's me but my first bullet accuracy has gotten better since I do this. But at the end of the day, crosshair placement is king.
@yuuiji
@yuuiji Жыл бұрын
Oh wow I never knew about the graph thing
@henrywei5019
@henrywei5019 Жыл бұрын
As an ascendant player, I predominantly use counter-strafing(But is actually called jiggling) in my gameplay. When I'm taking fights in open with no cover, I'd be nonstop strafing left and right and shooting one bullet with guardian(I never buy vandal) between every strafe and if i have a wall as cover id be ghost peaking aka jiggle peaking with counter strafe back and forth. I do not remember that last time I stood still letting go of wasd key for more than 1 to headshot someone. If you master this movement technique, you should have impeccable movement so it's almost impossible for enemies to one tap and also be cool and when hit heads at the same time.
@memohrustic416
@memohrustic416 Жыл бұрын
vandal is way better than guardian
@henrywei5019
@henrywei5019 Жыл бұрын
@@memohrustic416 It's not about the gun, it's about the motion of the ocean
@derfiete111
@derfiete111 Жыл бұрын
1:05 its even more useful when u hold d and then press a and you stop instantly :)
@nixx9076
@nixx9076 Жыл бұрын
okay i have 4.2k hours in cs. lvl 9 in faceit. and a- in esea. havent played cs in a while but just got into valorant, but my movment is pretty good since cs. and i have masterd counterstryfing. do i need to stop?
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
If you’re already used to it no but whatever makes you comfortable. Like as long as it doesn’t mess you up then keep going I guess but the physics in valorant are different so you gotta learn val movement mechanics as well
@zt0LTV
@zt0LTV Жыл бұрын
i personally still counterstrafe i still thinks its very viable and helpful+its so ingrained into my mind
@CopeDnD
@CopeDnD Жыл бұрын
its muscle memory at this point and I still click on heads, my point is if you already know how to do it theres no need to switch and make it harder for people who have that mechanic drilled into their head.
@kima0ne648
@kima0ne648 Жыл бұрын
When i counterstrafe i do not release any key. If i am moving to right and want to counterstrafe i just press A. So it's like i am pressing A and D to keep my character in position. It works for me, i even tried it out on counter strike and it felt comfortable since day one.
@sarahyambao6454
@sarahyambao6454 Жыл бұрын
I think keyboard makes a difference. I use an office one but I got a chance to play on my brother's rk keyboard...and oh boy, the experience was something else. The movement was so smooth
@WarpSonic
@WarpSonic Жыл бұрын
i find that when i don't counter strafe i end up shooting too soon 90% of the time which is obviously placebo but it's easier to keep doing it than to relearn how to shoot imo.
@subbyxd
@subbyxd Жыл бұрын
I don't think i will ever be able to get the habit of counter strafing out of my system. I played CSGO for wayy too long haha
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Word, for non cs people it wouldn’t be a point In learning it.
@xXHotaroXx
@xXHotaroXx Жыл бұрын
what's the name of this amazing song ?! (best would be reply with the correct youtube link ty)
@LOBOTOMYtv
@LOBOTOMYtv Жыл бұрын
some people find it easier to time their stop by pressing a key rather than releasing one
@LFTsilence
@LFTsilence 8 күн бұрын
thanks for video but like, CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE ME THE BACKGROUND MUSIC? this is perfect for gaming
@SyahmiRosli
@SyahmiRosli Жыл бұрын
Well I'm in Bronze and I had no idea what counter strafing was in the first place. This coooould help me??
@xela391
@xela391 Жыл бұрын
is deadzoning the same as jiggling? i saw woojins video on deadzoning and i realised i was already kinda doing something like that thanks to my habit of counter strafing
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah it kinda is.
@blockboi8116
@blockboi8116 Жыл бұрын
My muscle memory is already used to counterstrafing that i need to learn NOT to counterstrafe when i need to stop making it feel a little weird
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
If what you’re doing is working keep doing it
@Momokyun
@Momokyun Жыл бұрын
No this video is trash and misinformation lol. Counter strafing is better way to move.
@evolvereditzz7326
@evolvereditzz7326 Жыл бұрын
idk if it actually works but I have a trick that is equall to counter straifing.. the thing is.. just make your normal movement to walk instead of run.. and then instead of counter straifing.. just release the run key... and your aim will be smooth as hell
@sondo301_
@sondo301_ Жыл бұрын
This isn’t ideal. Just practice rather than trying to find hacks and short cuts.
@ethiceu5035
@ethiceu5035 Жыл бұрын
Idk abt this one but il try it
@henryyu4694
@henryyu4694 Жыл бұрын
what if I hold both a and d to stop my movement?
@suedster8540
@suedster8540 2 ай бұрын
what is the name of this song in the backround?
@ordinarypeerson
@ordinarypeerson Жыл бұрын
what chroma for ion is that?
@thephong8284
@thephong8284 Жыл бұрын
I stopped doing counter strafe when I realized it doesn't affect much to the much like in CS months ago, good video tho
@xojxstin
@xojxstin 11 ай бұрын
jiggling is so much easier in val that its harder for me cuz im so used to cs movement
@hades31
@hades31 Ай бұрын
What ur setting graphic and color in video
@ebobby1136
@ebobby1136 Жыл бұрын
I feel like you would need more discipline to completely stop instead of counter strafe if you're peeking someone. It's easy to swing too wide by a little bit and counter strafing is kinda like a safety net for that
@grzywa7401
@grzywa7401 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, but you can hit immo3 with counter strafing. I had immortal like in 6 acts without this new mechanic. I just play like in CSGO= counter strafe then crouch and spray. 90% of your win games it's all about having good teammates. 5 stuck is the way if you have good teammates especially from irl.
@rileyth
@rileyth Жыл бұрын
After playing cs for years counterstrafing is so baked into my muscle memory it's hard to not do it
@Fast007
@Fast007 Жыл бұрын
wat you said was useful for someone who never played cs and for someone wo has spent substancial amount of time in cs that guy is perfect in both jiggle and counter straifing. but nonetheless counterstraifing is useful too
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