I don't see what is wrong with what you said. Our constitution is the only thing keeping the corruption and powergrabbing of the government from consuming our country.

@@PV1230 but for how long….

I don’t know. Look at what is happening now in Ukraine. Yes there is corruption in any situation where there is power and humanity. The difference is there is effort to expose the truth and then there is effort to cover it up. Here, we have free press. We can criticize our government all day long. People make a living out of it. We can make videos in which get thousands of views talking about how the government sucks and no one comes to knock at your door to arrest you for it. Here, you know about the disasters that happen. Here journalist are protected for telling the truth and we have whistleblower laws. Currently, there are thousands of Ukrainian people who were murdered. Some were brutalized before they died. Their homes and lives destroyed. And which country is lying about it? Which one continues to lie? There is corruption anywhere there is humanity. But the difference in quality of life and freedom of information is night and day. Yes, the US has done awful things and should own it. We should never feel complacent as there is always ways to improve. But I would be ashamed to compare the comfort and safety of the west to what happens to Russian people. Not their government, but their people, who have to live and survive under totalitarian rule with limited access to the outside world. Where saying something bad about the government can get you imprisoned for 15 years. Where “enemies”of the state (ie oppositional party) are executed. It would be like our president using the FBI to poison the republican nominee. We can’t even fathom such things but they happen on a regular basis in places like Russia and North Korea. And their population suffers. Ukrainians desperately want to be democratic. They got to have their first free and fair elections only a few years ago. They got a taste of freedom, barely something that we relish in everyday without thought, and they are sacrificing themselves just to keep it. There are things that are more likely to happen in certain societies because of how they are structured. The level of secrecy and disregard for human life of their own citizens plays a big role in that risk. We would be foolish to think otherwise. Great reaction series, ladies. You both seem like awesome humans. Never stop reading and learning. ❤️

This has been happening since the beginning of our history but every time good people win in the end, with much sacrifice of course...so never give up hope, we will always prevail against evil.

No, you were totally right at the end. The US government isn't perfect of course, but no government in the modern West treats their citizens/country with the same brutality that the Soviet regime treated theirs with. Their level of oppression, censorship, propaganda really doesn't compare. It is ok to say that some governments/societies, despite being flawed, really are better than others, have stronger rights/protections/freedoms, etc. Anyways, enjoyed the reaction

in Chernobyl

@@modabska4789 and the world 🤷‍♂️

There should be one in every european country at least.

Those human hands that hold the reactor are epic. Yes, it's all in our hands.

In Moscow

I've been there. That museum was creepy as hell. Best regards from Norway.

And the title of the third episode, "Open Wide, O Earth", comes from an Eastern Orthodox burial prayer! The creator Craig Mazin actually confirmed this: twitter.com/clmazin/status/1164414443842707462

That's a really cool observation! Alternatively, you could also view it from the side of the Russian government: 1. Denial 2. Denial 3. Denial 4. Denial 5. Denial

Imon's pathetic 'we have rights' drivel was hilarious knowing how psychopathic America's institutions are.

Agreed. But remember, the entirety of the USSR social structure (basically since Stalin) was based on the idea that a) the party and leadership couldn't be wrong and therefore b) someone else must carry the blame. Also there was no guarantee that your loved ones would escape the crossfire. As a result, whenever something went wrong, the greatest worry on many peoples' minds was how to make sure no one who could make you a scapegoat knew it had happened, and if that wasn't possible, to make sure they had a more convenient scapegoat at hand. We should learn from this. This is what happens when legal protections falter. Everything becomes someone else's fault, to prevent the blood on the floor from being yours. This is why we have to protect our legal protections with everything we have, because losing them means losing the safety to take responsibility.

@g usmc That's not socialism.

@@anathema2me4EVR capitalism is horrible. that is the cost of lies of the american dream. fuck usa and fuck imperialism. NATO, hand off europe and south america

Capitalism isn't horrible unless it is abused (which it has been abused heavily in America). However, America has done a number of great things and you can't just say "Fuck USA" like a child. America has a lot of problems, but there are far worse places to be...

Oof sounds like china

@@UncleMilo No system is horrible if it's used right. No system is used right all the time. Communism is too optimistic about human nature. Capitalism is deliberate selfishness.

@@marcgarrigosmane166 Capitalism is always preferable to Communism. But I personally would not want neither in a perfect world.

That's my favorite quote from any tv show ever. It's just so powerful it always makes me tear up when I see a reaction video on that part of the episode

Let us say that they were lucky. People across europe, myself included, have been outside for days before the soviets told anything about it. And still today they didn't tell all the truth. The russian government is still denying alot of things. Yes there have been alot of incidents in nuclear powerplants. Also nuclear disasters on ships and submarines aswell. But it was the one and only reactor which exploded. And that is it what makes it such a huge disaster. Fukushima was also a horrible disaster but Chernobyl was still bigger.

If this disaster happened today in a place like America or any other western modern day country,do you think there'd be people like those firefighters and coal miners that practically saved us?

@@eternalsunshine9010 Yes.

@@eternalsunshine9010 People need money.

communism is shit. That's the point, while democratic countries still lie, communist countries never tells the truth.

Dyatlov was a moron who couldn't keep his stupid anger in check. Imagine working in the control centre of a nuclear power plant and being mad at your colleagues over nothing. #RecipeforDisaster

Not in the nuclear industry. You can find documents on every single accidental release and every single incident. America has had only one similar incident like Chernobyl, it was the SL-1 test reactor, three men died, and the Army never constructed a reactor again, only the US Navy runs Reactors in the US Armed Forces, and has sucessfully run without a single accident or Reactor Incident. Most of Nuclear Industry workers in the United States are Former Naval Reactor Personel, or are trained by them. The American Nuclear industry was more or less formed around the ethos of one man, Admiral Hymen G Rickover, he was so hell bent on Integrity and personal responsibility that to this day the culture he cultivated still acts like he will come down hard on them for the slightest infraction of integrity(he was forcibly retired by Reagan and died in the mid eighties).

@@lazyidiotofthemonth Maybe not, but america as an goverment and citizens, whole country, I wouldn't be "blessed" to be american like they said :D That country is pretty fucked up aswell.

No, they're right. Not that the American government is perfect, or even anywhere close to it, but at the very least there's some constitutional and legal protections for speech, expression, and inquiry. When you compare it to the lack of any foundational protections for almost every other country (not just the totalitarian ones), it's a huge difference. It's important to preserve and use our fundamental rights to counter bad government, and it's counterproductive to just say "well we're just as bad" as a whole. It's lazy thinking and just not true.

Almost every other country? There are numerous free democratic countries in the world where the citizens have just as many rights as those in the United States.

@@geraldsarrells7961 how about when the government provides false information to justify going to war with a foreign country, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths?

Can't help to remember what was said in the Godzilla movie, that the titans were radioactive and where they walked life bloomed.

Mike Salucci Yes. Although I do think many people misunderstand this as nature "flourishing", when it's mostly that animals have reclaimed the towns in the absence of humans. There are still lots of mutations among the species living there, like a huge percent of male birds being sterile, trees that have changed variety due to radiation damage, and the spiders there literally act like they're on hard drugs (this is legit you can look it up). I'm not trying to call you out and say you're wrong here, because you aren't, and you could well already know this, but I just wanted to make a statement to clarify because a lot of people seem to misunderstand "retaken" as "it's a natural haven where animals are flourishing".

Yeah, but that's basically magical radiation. Radiation is always a bad thing, and different types of radiation are more dangerous than others. It's more that the kaiju give off a special energy that stimulates ecological growth, and the scientists just call it radiation for lack of a better term. Even in Chernobyl, nature didn't come back due to radiation, it came back because all the humans left and there was a large niche to fill. There were still many documented cases of animal mutation and death, especially in the early years.

I'm just making a comparison, radiation in excess is obviously bad, just like lava is also bad, both things only destroy. But what I'm talking is the aftermath, how even if the earth and soil is poisoned or destroyed, life still comes back, and sometimes even with bigger force.

The radiation in the exclusion zone since the accident is bad for the ecosystem.... Just not AS bad as "normal" human activity. Hence, nature flourishes there in comparison to more populated areas.

In all fairness, the explanation in the show is a bit lacking. They weren't "graphite tips", but instead they were whole graphite moderator rods meant to counteract the absorbent properties of light water. They were affixed to the end of the boron control rods, so that when boron was retracted, graphite was pushed in its place, helping speed up the reaction. This was done on purpose. If those graphite rods weren't there, the light water, which again is an absorber, would cause the reactor to stall. So in a way, adding those graphite rods is like coupling the gas pedal to the break in such a way that when you let go of the break you instantly start accelerating, and vice versa. You can then use a number of shorter control rods to fine-tune the neutron flux and everything works like a charm. Under normal circumstances this is a simple, cheap, yet clever and remarkably reliable system. However, in the specific environment the operators in Chernobyl created that fateful day, this design feature turned into a fatal flaw. The problem lies not in how this system works, but how it was implemented in RBMK-1000 reactors all across the USSR. The hydraulics weren't powerful enough to push control rods into the channels fast enough in case of an emergency, and the water displacement inside the channels made this process even slower. So as the control rods were pushed down, the graphite rods didn't have enough time to exit the channels and created a situation where the reaction in the top of the fuel rods was slowing down due to boron, but in the bottom it was actually speeding up because of the graphite rods, which weren't retracting fast enough. Secondly, the graphite moderator rods were shorter than the entire length of the channel, leaving a significant gap filled with water coolant in the lower part of the reactor. As the control rods are pushed down, this water (absorbent) is replaced by graphite (moderator) leading to an overall increase in reactivity in that region as the rods are pushed down. As a result, the water that was still being displaced was quickly vaporised due to spike in reactivity in the lower part of the reactor, rupturing the channels and thus blocking further movement of the boron control rods. From there the reaction skyrocketed and the rest is history.

Miłosz Skowroński Hah! You’re so full of misinformation.

Eagle Eye Under what grounds?

ANTARIS What do you mean “grounds”?

Eagle Eye You said he’s so full of information yet you’ve given nothing to prove it. I’m asking you how he’s so full of misinformation, and to prove it.

As I know in russia you are getting arrested when you are gay or doing porn. There are not many political oppositions left. They are either in prison or dead. So it's slightly different to other modern countries there. Putin has done a good job installing a strong government ruling with an iron fist we would say. No surprise about that. He was an KGB agent. He probably did horrible things to people himself. But I agree that other countries are also not that good how they seem. The united states for example accidentely dropped two nuclear bombs on their own country. Luckily they weren't armned and didn't explode. I think one is still stuck in the ground. Nobody told anyone about it. No evacuation, no information to the people living in the area. Nothing.

Well, I guess the good news is we still have our guns

John Creasy01 you are not getting arrested in Russian if you are gay actually, but there are lots of problem for gays in southern part of Russia: Chechnya, Dagestan. Russian media made some reports about killing gays in secret jails in Chechnya for example. And yes u can be arrested for making porn, but I didn’t hear a lot about situations like that

@@JohnnyC01 No one arrests you because you are gay in Russia, You have as much propaganda here as you do over there and your comment is proof. You literally have people murdered in plain sight like Jeffrey Epstein and that is just an obvious one of the countless others. Just because they lie to you about it does not mean those in power will not to anything to remain in power. Laws/Constitution are only made to control poor schmucks like us, they are not made for them.

You know Kenedy was proposed by the CIA to carry out bombings in US cities to pump up people for an invasion of Cuba. He refused, and had a speach soon after about dangers of secret societies. We all know how he ended up. Children were given radioactive injection to see the effects, and died soon after. A biological attack was carried out on SanFran. to test reaction. I mean obviously the USSR was a clusterfuck, but the US is just as bad. Three mile isle is a great example of self evaluation, and corrective action though.

I second that recommendation. I read the book after watching the series. Many of the scenes are taken from the book.

I'd also _highly_ recommend watching Hotel Mumbai. One of the most gripping, suspenseful movies I have ever watched. Also happens to be a true story, of course.

Here in Sweden we watch hotel rowanda in school. And movies like Shindlers list and full metal jacket

Well I’m 17 and a senior in high school, and we watched it my freshman year in history class. We talked about the Rwandan genocide and then watched the movie. Personally I really enjoyed the movie, it’s definitely on my list of must see movies

I'm Canadian and we watched Hotel Rwanda in Social Studies class, it was grade 8 or 9. I think it's just Americans who don't learn about things outside their country.

@@caseyaulbach7693That the genocide occurred at all is a direct condemnation of the UN. When the plane went down a relative of mine had the news watch and reported it to the Africa Department. They were told "What's the worse that could happen, they are only africans." The movie touched a bit on the lack of international support, but put too much blame on the local blue helmets considering their tenuous position and the great efforts of their leader. The whole experience goes to show you that the promise of never again was a lie.

I think he definitely had issues accepting responsibility (he was quite an arrogant man) but his belligerence wasn't entirely bad: he openly criticised the government for installing the reactors and covering up their faults, and was actually fiercely stubborn in defending Akimov and Toptunov, he wanted people to know that his subordinates weren't to blame.

To be fair, the trial was very much rigged. One of the things Dyatlov was accused of was "violation of safety regulations at explosive facilities or machinery". This was BS, even at the time. You either admit the plant was built in a way it was likely to explode or you do not. Nuclear power plants were never classified as explosion-prone facilities. Yet he was still somehow found guilty of THAT. It would also be nice had the Chernobyl NPP been classified as "explosive" BEFORE it actually exploded. IRL, Dyatlov was not as much of a jerk as in the show. It makes sense in the story; the viewer easily buys into the "official" version that the accident happened simply because a bad guy was just so stupid. After all, the man in charge is an incompetent moron who is easy to hate, right? And then the characters realise the event was so much bigger than that. To his death, Dyatlov was of the opinion that the staff had operated well within what was allowed at the time. It is just that the numbers they used were wrong, having been measured at a more stable energy output (because why on earth would nuclear safety staff specifically measure them at very low output). Or so he said. He might have been arrogant okay; people who knew him reported he was demanding, strict at times and extremely competent. It is understandable he was not pleased with prosecution doing a rather hasty job of blaming him for everything wrong with the NPP as well as the reactor design.

Uh you seem out of the loop. Michigan elected a Democratic governor in 2018...

There was no Three Mile Island coverup, it was barely a downplay of what happened.

You're a fucking idiot comparing Chernobyl to lead in the pipes from old infrastructure. Typical liberal conspiracy mongering. How's that Russian collusion working out for you? That's what I thought.

@@mscheese000 Your right, I merged two things. This happened under a republican governor. In addition, The Michigan House is 58:52 Republican, and the senate is 22:16 Republican. It makes the same point.

@@TealJosh You're right, cover up is not the right word. It was a chaotic effort whose slowness lack of planning put more people in danger. Incompetence is the word I am looking for.

redhotchilifan98 It’s actually an original piece of music by the composer of the show’s music. It’s very reminiscent of Eastern Orthodox music, especially with those oktavist bass singers. Also, the title of the song (and episode) is a common exclamation or praise in the same religion.

@@AlasdairGR i learned about that very cool

There is zero credible sources claiming a million casualties in the second Gulf war. Stop talking shit. Most reports give an estimate of 100-250 thousand dead, which is clearly a lot, but not even close to a million. Meanwhile the Saddam Hussei regime actually is responsible for around a million people killed (if you factor in the Iraq-Iran war), so I suggest you get a little perspective. Not to mention that, while the WMD rationale was almost certainly bogus, there were valid legal and humanitarian reasons for a military intervention.

@@Anetron1 "there were valid legal and humanitarian reasons for a military intervention." Ah yes... which is why the UN said no and the US decided "F the world" and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people anyway. Valid, legal and humanitarian defined.

@@jm-holm the UN opinion is hardly relevant in a bilateral conflict between the US and Iraq. I'm not sure if you're aware, but the two sides signed a ceasefire agreement after the first Gulf war, which Iraq breached on many occasions (including trying to assassinate George Bush), so the US absolutely had the right to resume military action. Obviously it was a war of choice, not a war of necessity like Afghanistan, but the US was acting well within the confines of the 1991 agreement. Also, it's insultingly stupid to put every single death, civilian or otherwise, on the US military considering they conducted the intervention with very few non-combatant casualties and were not directly responsible for the actions of Al Qaeda in Iraq and other jihadist groups that had already been freely operating in the country before the invasion.

@@Anetron1 Yes, we know of all military interventions for "humanitarian reasons" by the US, like the bombing of yugoslavia.

@@TheGuardianDevil4 surely you're not implying that the Yugoslavia intervention was not indeed justified by humanitarian considerations (you know, a literal genocide of Muslims)?

They were reacting to the dialogue with their headphones off at certain points, so probably subtitles. Its fine.

Michael Waugaman Didn’t say it wasn’t. Said it was weird.

Right, andi explained why it wasnt. No big deal buddy.

Michael Waugaman ok, pal.

There *is* no reason to worry because its not that significant as Chernobyl disaster, or any other life-threatening event caused by radiation leak. Every military fuck-up is being denied and supressed in citizen masses, thats given. There is no reason in fear-mongering your own people, nor there is any reason to unveil military technology to other countries.

@@helenaprimera516 What pissed me off it's that this isn't about fear mongering, it's about hiding stuff because the government is afraid to look bad in the eyes of the people and other countries. Check this out: www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49432681 www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/08/16/exclusive-russian-doctors-say-they-werent-warned-patients-were-nuclear-accident-victims-a66896

@@Italianchef26 Wow, they didn't tell the hospital staff about the radiation. Effing criminal.

@@Italianchef26 mass hysteria can lead to much more deaths, though.

Megaroad Producciones that’s not entirely right and the chaîne of event at Fukushima is actually much worst. They messed up at so many levels for losing all 4 reactors because they was unable to connect emergency pump because they didn’t have on site the right hose coupler.

@@BigMacIIx yeah, but all start with the whole complex 21 meters lower than the original planes. The wave would never hit the complex for 4 meters. All, because they wanna save some concrete money.

False equivalence. Three Mile Island did not explode and endanger the lives of millions of people. It didn't even fully melt down. Besides, the plant called a public emergency within 30 MINUTES. The Soviet government took days to admit to an emergency in a MUCH more serious situation.

Megaroad Producciones Three mile island really wasn't "hidden" from the public, and most definitely not for "years", it was just downplayed to make it seem safer than it was (and even then it was nowhere near as bad as Chernobyl or Fukushima despite how everyone seems to talk about it). *Now the Santa Susana Field Lab meltdown in California on the other hand..........* That one's the worst nuclear accident (in terms of people effected) in US history, and almost no one even knows it happened.

@@BigMacIIx Fukushima wasn't bad at all if we're just talking radiation and contamination. People died as a consequence of evacuation due to being overly cautious and the effects of the tsunami disaster, none were exposed to dangerous levels of radiation. Also correct me if I'm wrong but Fukushima only lost 2 reactors, one of which melted down as far as I know. The last 2 weren't running at the time and are perfectly fine but the government decided not to open them back up after the accident. The part about them cheating on the building plans both with the height the plant was at and with the tsunami protection wall is however true.

We have the Patriot Act, NSA, and CIA black sites here as well man.

Unfortunately it was a change for the worse. Fossil fuel power generation kills more people every year than all nuclear accidents and explosions killed since 1945 .Well,there's a better way-fusion reactors.Too bad they are not capable of generating more power than they consume yet. Until then nuclear power is our best solution-breeder reactors specifically.

@@demonfedor3748 How do you know? There are estimated numbers for both at best. Moreover, a single dramatic nuclear accident in a densely populated area would be enough to completely change the picture. And we have not started with the problems of nuclear waste yet. Whether nuclear fusion will ever be usable in practice is completely unclear. And even if it does, a fusion generator causes very strong neutron radiation, which leads to so-called induced radioactivity. Parts such as the protective sheath against neutron radiation degenerate over time and must be replaced regularly. These parts are (again) highly radioactive waste. The fuels used, such as tritium, are also beta emitters with a half-life of over 12000 years. Nuclear fusion does not bring clean energy (even if it would be better than nuclear fission). However, we already have all the technology necessary to supply us with 100% renewable energy. And that is of course the goal in Germany.

@@yasminesteinbauer8565 WE do not have all the technology necessary, explain to me how you are going to power a city with solar and wind in the middle of a calm night... Not to mention the fact that to power a city the size of London you would have to cover half the country in wind turbines, and London is tiny compared to the likes of Hong Kong or Mexico City.

@@krashd Quite simply, we store energy e.g. with Power-to-Gas technology. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-gas ) I don't have any information about London, but at least for Germany there are several studies which all come to the clear conclusion that it is possible to supply the whole country with 100% renewable energy without any problems. (If you can read German: www.ise.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/ise/de/documents/publications/studies/studie-100-erneuerbare-energien-fuer-strom-und-waerme-in-deutschland.pdf ) Great Britain is an island and has a huge potential for offshore wind power. So I don't know why it shouldn't work there in the same way.

Germany also increased their carbon footprint immensely by using coal power instead of nuclear. So instead of a possible local explosion they opted for a possible global cataclysm.

Fukushima's radiation is nothing compared to USA bomb testing during the 50's

Öyh, öyh. Trumppi on idiootti. Höhöö.

Putin has more power tho

verpaali, reading this in the Covid19 days, your comment is scarily prophetic.

the guy who was sent on the roof to look into the reactor in episode 1 was the stark soldier who was killed in kings landing by jamie lannister with a dagger to the eye.

and the guy who slapped the minister of coal on the face was jeor mormont

Holy shit, so many got bois

And General Nikolai Tarakanov is Dagmer Cleftjaw from the Ironborn

@@yeeyeeasshaircut456 I know right. It's like playing where's waldo with GOT characters.

The operators deserve some of the blame, especially Dyatlov, the only reason that the state never divulged what can happen when the AZ-5 is pressed is because they knew that if a reactor was operated safely (as in within it's parameters) then the design flaw would never become a problem. You have to remember that this flaw existed in 16 reactors across six nuclear power plants and some of those reactors were over 10 years old by 1986, and none of them ever exploded when the AZ-5 was pressed during an 'excursion' because at no point did anyone do anything reckless with a reactor. Anatoli Dyatlov in his arrogance just assumed that he could push or pull the reactor to do anything he wanted it to do and the magic AZ-5 button would fix it if anything went wrong, he was mistaken and a large chunk of northern Europe paid the price.

@@krashd Not everything shown in the series is true. Actually reactor was operated safely in within it's parameters. There were no alarms until AZ-5 was pressed. And the emergency protection button must not have any features of using. It must shut down the reactor in any conditions. Yes, none of those 16 reactors ever exploded, but there were various accidents, just not so serious. This RBMK reactor was designed with numerous violations of nuclear safety standards and sooner or later it would lead to an explosion.

@Akin Khoo A long delay of half a power, on the contrary, allowed the reactor to reduce poisoning and the final depth of poisoning was less than planned. This is what allowed Dyatlov to conduct tests at a capacity of 200 MW. RBMK is a project of the late 60s, not 1986. The accident could not be repeated, because all design errors were corrected in 1986, immediately after the accident.

@Akin Khoo Before the tests began, there was no reason to shut down the reactor. The shutdown of the unit was postponed (and, consequently, testing) at night due to a lack of generating capacity in the power system. This was a test on the run-out of the turbine. Reactor in the test in fact is not involved at all. Only the turbine and generator are needed. Makes it "harder to control" - does not mean an explosive situation. 200 MW is the normal operating mode of the reactor. 50% of the power is the normal mode of operation of the power unit for one generator.

Bruh chill. They can still hear it

Flint Michigan and now New Ark come to mind black segregation and japanese internment camps are other examples of America not living up to it's supposed ideals of freedom and liberty

You ever played Metro 2033? Pretty much how the World or at the very least Europe would look like then.

You mean the German Netflix show ''Dark'' its good

Meh, Bernie ain't communist, far from it, based on an European pov he is center at best, far from being "hard left", and to be honnest, Soviet, Chinese etc "communist regime" had nothing but the name communist in it, having people like Staline and Mao has some kind of god like symbol is the opposite of the communist ideology, on paper everyone is suppose to be equal, does not really compute with egotestical murderers.

It isn't. You don't get arrested or executed for opposing the government, as you would in a Communist or Socialist regime.

Tasera I’ve just finished reading ‘Chernobyl: History of a Tragedy’ by Serhii Plokhy which is definitely worth a read! As well as covering the science and the disaster itself and clean up efforts, it goes quite in-depth into the bureaucracy of the governments of Ukraine and Russia; there’s a whole tangled web of accountability which isn’t covered in the series.

There are still others in Ukraine which are still working, because people need it. But the reactors are out of date pretty much. Scary to think.

@@TheTerkzzz Oh yeah, Kursk! I forgot that Ukraine got two RBMK plants.