Best to save "Acheron" first from IX grasp

Farewell, savings.

Despite that, we must become heroes. - also Kevin

​@@opiend7266 Hi~ - Elysia maybe

Same for CN, too I believe

@@alvinhow7996 nicceee does this hint a possible Kebin exp?

@@leibnizlagura4396 Well yea. It hints that he is dead.

And from the PV... He might have succeed...

no. The narrator clearly said TWO Bearers. Origin and END. It's more likely that Kiana fell to the corruption and became that mountain of blades.

​@@SchinakYou know theres 2 voice right? 2 bearer, its Mei and Kevin. The end was Kevin, Origin kill End, kebin. Only 1 could save Izumo, if u look at the end, its a abomination of swords, like kevin ichor form in the end.

Love how planets are at war then there's IX casually orbiting around waiting to devour everything.

@@Schinak it's more like Previous Era getting the herrscher awakenings. and just like PE they lost. but while Finality wind up the incarnations to retry, there is no Finality here, only Nihility.

@@Schinak There is no Kiana. Its Dr. MEI and Kevin. This is Previous Era.

They think they were slick by changing the colour like that

Literally it's 13 origin count as 0☝️🤓

@@Thanawat_CHactually, none of them are actual herrschers. Only finality is a herrscher (insert nerd emoji)

​@@F4-agqfq elaborate?

@@nyes4596 it’s a tedious technicality, but only the Cocoon is the Herrscher, 1-14 are false herrschers that have a part of finality’s power

-"Kevin, it is not heroes that save the world. It is because they saved the world they became heroes." -"But we both know this world is beyond salvation. Despite that, we must become Heroes."

I too heard Honkai World Diva motif.

Cuz they could fly to escape from meteor

"They fly because they choose to fly."

"because they must soar into the sky" "When the meteor of finality crashed during the Cretaceous period, only the birds that could fly freely were able to escape the inevitable extinction." - Kevin Kaslana

iirc the jp and cn version uses Kevin's voice actor each

Genuinely, how? Could you explain this theory.

​@@nemasisdemarini8339 at the beginning of penacony Acheron tells us that we remind her of someone. That someone might be Kevin (starrail's equivalent of Kevin that is)

​@@nemasisdemarini8339not a HI3 expert but Kevin is a character in that game and is someone I'm pretty sure Raiden Mei meets. In 2.0 if you're playing as Caelus it's possible to get a dialogue in red text with Acheron where she states that you remind her of a certain man I think she says she clashed with often. This person is presumably the man speaking in this trailer, and in jp and cn the voice actor for Kevin voices this narrator. Sadly that's more or less the extent of what I know.

@@arghhhhy5874 Ah, so it's Caelus specific. Thanks for clarifying. Also, whilst the other character in the trailer is clearly meant to be a Kevin expy, or at least Kevin like character, I doubt it would be simply because Raiden Mei meets him in Honkai. This story actually doesn't parallel the main story of Honkai Impact, but rather, the story of the previous era of their world. An era in which key people become heroes, hoping to save the world from an unknown threat that descended from seemingly nowhere. In their pursuit of this, they took the cores of the most powerful of their enemies, and used their own power against them. They gave everything they had. Weathered every tragedy. And even sacrificed time and again. But they were losing, and in the end, they lost. But hope, itself, was not lost. Some survived, and devoted themselves to the protection of those that would follow them. But of them, one was special. And that person gave themself to give the others a fighting chance, and keep their hope alive. And sadly, it seems Izumo did not have that one special person, to keep hope for them.

It also implies that even if Izumo defeated the kamigami they were still doomed due to being already caught in IX's pull from the start.

yes both planets were doomed from the start since they would be swallowed by black hole sooner or later@@Schinak

Isn't it in the trailer she said descended? Which implied that the black hole came to their world not they been in the orbit of it?

@@liumatt2874 They said that the Kami, the beasts that they were fighting, descended onto their world seemingly out of nowhere. In contrast, she claimed that they had long since walked into THEIR shadow. With the implication being, that either the planet formed in the orbit of IX, or IX moved in some way that ended up pulling them into their orbit. But either way, Izumo is repeatedly described as having a pitch black sun. Meaning that they had been orbiting the black hole (most likely being illuminated by it's accretion disk) for quite a while, and were most likely simply slowly falling in.

@@nemasisdemarini8339 A good theory, but do think logically, can any planet that orbit a black hole sustain life or even civilization? With that close at range that you can literally see it in the sky like a sun? You do know black hole don't emit light only consume it right? So if a planet do orbit a black hole all it can see is pitch black, so how can an environment like that can hold any sort of life form? I believe it's more reasonable that it was once a sun like ours but got corrupted by IX's power and slowly turned into a black hole like star.

She did say " descend " which means it came from other places, not originated from where they are, or maybe it means IX devoured the sun they are orbiting and turned it into a black hole with it's influence.

Love the way its motifs are used throughout the trailer. Bonus points for the scene of Acheron standing in the broken, bloodied city, a clear reference to the mv that accompanied Honkai World Diva. And at the same time, the black hole in the fallen city ALSO seems a clear reference to Raiden Ei's Plane of Euthemya in Genshin.

Same

but in Star Rail it was Mei and Kevin that fought against each other (which is the same VA in JP and CN trailer narrating)

i found a fun fact, in honkai impact, there's a weapon called"path to acheron", a weapon for seele, it has quite an interesting story about emptyness, you should look@@symphonixblades

​@@symphonixblades she also said if you have stelle that she have fight alongside Kiana Sky swordman probably cause Flare was probably Himeko or Sirin was Sky and Kiana Flare.

I don’t think this is a direct result of origin vs finality, more like a result of IX the Nihility

I'm pretty sure it's the line that plays at the end of the HI3 Retrospective

@@Basilo1146yeah you're right!

Of course, because that is Kevin talking​@@Basilo1146

At 15:45, it's a remix of Honkai world diva from hi3

In my opinion, there is no Kiana in that world who can wield the power of the End, so it just corrupts people around it, so Archeon who is the wielder of Origin has to battle it out to decide who can save their world ( Literally said in the trailer only one can save the world ), but in the end both were shattered since one can't exist without the other like the two side of a coin, their world were doomed under the IX's influence, so Archeon sacrificed her Oni power ( losing the horns ) and the life of all the deceased ( the red blood ) to reforge " Naught ", which contains the power of the underworld ( those red flowers that sprout around her feet resembles those underworld flowers ).

The blade is neither, it’s simply nihility

No Elysia too tho it seems..... Unless March 7th counts lol

@@yeojiherrscherofswifties3645 There's definitely no Elysia. Elysia herself is a completely unique entity. There is only one of her in the entirety of the multiverse. There may be other people like her, but she is the *only* Elysia.

@@nemasisdemarini8339 good point ma friend very detailed and cohesive I like it 🤟🤌👌

YATTA

Yea, Truth even have a reference to Bronya's "trafic accident" with Tlaloc 😂

Is it just same because refference like bronya in hi3 and bronya in HSR (that is no connection just same bronya cause reffenrence) or that have connection like welt in hsr is same welt in hi3

@@devlkerhextalker4461 i thought it's giant ship from the sky btu then i remembered it all sword and seeing the back end confirms it lmao

there is also elysia（life）

nah its not confirmed when her reminds caelust/stelle

​@@danstern102 I did use the words "thinking" and "I think" so yeah its a theory. Didn't say it as a fact.

It would be mean that this would be an bubble universe alternate of Dr.Mei then since the one we have on HI3rd had a very weak body especially after using the suit

I think its still Raiden Mei cause she experiment elysian realm and said Penacony is similar to a previous expérience. If you choose Stelle, you remind her Kiana (freebas in HSR). That made this trailer with the info we already have like the suggestions toward ennemis Yae give her during elysian realm she repeat to us word for word close Raiden Mei at 10000000%.

It's just a fanservice reference, Acheron's story has nothing to do with HI3... They're not actually herrschers, and they're not fighting Honkai.

HoR's PRI ARM name is Domain of Revelations as well

Apparently if you gaze upon IX, either one of two things will happen. Either you get obliterated into dust, or you survive and become an eminemanator of nihility and you have no choice in the matter

Self-annihilators are victims of nihility. They basically progressively lost something be it the body, memories, or existence. That's why some self-annihilators decides to fight it back and turn against the Nihility before being "Naught". With this, I don't really like calling them emanators. While they are directly influenced by IX, they're basically just victims of the Nihility and had no other choice on the matter.

@@gilgagimmickkingofheroes6416 Huh, where was this mentioned? Cause I'd like to read it thoroughly cause this seems very interesting

​@@cry-o1436SU Aeon archives

​@@gilgagimmickkingofheroes6416 at the end Mei/Acheron give up LIFE and embrace Nihility to became NAUGHT. That why she became an emanator and the self annihilator are not emanator of Nihility.

Aeons are a whole different breed. They're probably equal or higher than the Imaginary tree and are closer to finding the bigger cosmology. Heck, Aha climbed the Imaginary Tree to become an Aeon of Elation

emanators can solo hi3rd, no need for aeons

Same with Void

Herrscher authorities are pieces from shadow of Finality, that descent upon real world through set of higher dimensions, difference in dimensionality is so big that those pieces are turning into authorities and also CoF's will deteriorating so much, that it becomes chaotic malice, aimed directly at civilization. So yeah, ordinary Herrschers are weaker than aeons, but beings like CoF, HoFin Kiana, Prime Kevin, PE HoFin are arguably higher on dimensional scale than aeons (since AoF said to exist above all dimensions of Imaginary Tree)

@@nesqux7934 Like you said, different level of authority will also effect their power scale, those twelve mentioned here doesn't mean they are the same as the herrecher in HI3, those power are from authority or universal laws, ( like fire, water wind thunder are elements which exist across the entire universe), but surely most Aeons are more powerful than most herrechers, but I agree herrecher like Kiana, Elysia or even Sirin are not too far from Aeons in term of power.

The Cocoon is nowhere near that powerful, like you said, just a conduit for Honkai, only able to affect one world at a time, and its influence doesn't reach beyond the solar system it currently resides in. Also, APHO pretty much implies that the Sky People would be able to devour it along with all the Honkai stored within the Moon, if we didn't intervene. Meanwhile, we know of Emanators who are able to destroy galaxies by themselves. Let that sink in.

@@nesqux7934 That's just nonsense. We already know Aeons and their Paths are universal throughout the Imaginary Tree. The Cocoon is bound to a single planet at a time, and its sphere of influence seems to be very limited, as evidenced by the fact that Honkai doesn't even seem to be common knowledge throughout the IPC space.

@@temporaryvideos364 1) Cocoon isn't limited by anything, it was never stated in the game, it exists above all dimensions and is unreachable from SoQ and IT (both statements directly from the game ch 32-35 and indirectly through 1st arc of 1.5). 2) Confirmed 38000+ leafs destroyed in a span of ≈1000 years via Su's observations, all of them lost to honkai, and were destroyed by the same entity, that Flame Chasers fought in PE. 3) Kiana confirmed as a being, that exists above imaginary barriers, that separates leafs, and her authority is confirmed to transcend all dimensions(stated it in 1st and 2nd arcs of 1.5) 4) Otto's feats alone >>> everything shown in HSR so far. Too bad, that the beast, which appeared in plane of Imaginary tree, will obliterate any emanator through sheer difference in dimensional scale. 5) aeons are beings made of Imaginary energy, they bound to a certain path and are unable to transcend it, essentially slaves under the rule of IT. Why is it sounds so similar to False-God Otto's case... I could add more, but this is more than enough to debunk what you said earlier. So, unless Mihoyo officially confirms that CoF is weaker than aeons, CoF will remain as a strongest eldritch entity in current hoyoverse.

Or Kiana too

It should probably give you seele vibes: the white blue and the Black Red blades?

@@dukuganryu7043 that too, it’s the flip that really made me think Blade. Would be interesting if the Mara (or something else about Blade we don’t know yet) had to do with it. Unlikely tho lmao.

fate = LIFE and death blade would avoid anything related to LIFE

​@@hubboyt120 that have nothing to do with that cause Mara is a curse of Abondance after entering in contact wuth Abondance emanator Shuhu. Its clearly a Seele (with the dear Diana) and Velonia herscher of Rebirth and Death.

Playable Kevin I would QUAKING

lol i can't unsee it now 😂

Gods the story quest with him and Acheron is gonna be fuckin SAD I can already tell

The song being played sounds similar to Houkai Sekai no Utahime (Mei's song)

@@carloshyju8181 I FOUND IT GUYS I FOUND IT I FOUND WHERE IT SOUNDED FAMILIAR kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qraFhqh0zNe5pGw.htmlsi=2A0ilGEDSBGrZfn_ The motif is at: 0:09 1:12 2:37 NO WONDER IT WAS SO FAMILIAR CUZ I HAVE OST DOWNLOADED AND LISTEN TO IT ALMOST EVERYDAY T^T

Seems like slashing at the BLack sun was part of how she became an Emanator. Not surprising if that black sun was a part of Ix