Love & Marriage Traditions on Tamriel - The Elder Scrolls Lore

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Imperial Knowledge

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Жыл бұрын

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@ImperialKnowledge
@ImperialKnowledge Жыл бұрын
Due to a cold I felt like a wet towel while recording it so sorry if the recording is off.
@jesterssketchbook
@jesterssketchbook Жыл бұрын
feel better bro - love your vids
@kingjom5651
@kingjom5651 Жыл бұрын
^
@sleepysartorialist
@sleepysartorialist Жыл бұрын
Sounds fine. Feel better.
@delverofsouls
@delverofsouls Жыл бұрын
It sounds great my friend. Hope you feel better soon
@ImperialKnowledge
@ImperialKnowledge Жыл бұрын
@@dukecesareborgiaofvalencia it is quite frustrating yes
@mcz_13
@mcz_13 11 ай бұрын
I think it’s very sweet that in Dunmer weddings you gain an ancestral connection to your spouse’s family. It’s an extremely welcoming thing from a culture that isn’t viewed as being very warm and accepting
@georgeoldsterd8994
@georgeoldsterd8994 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, they are actually very caring about their kin.
@RaderizDorret
@RaderizDorret 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact: that kind of spiritual connection has been a thing in human history, mainly in ancient Greece and Rome and some of those traditions (such as the husband carrying his bride over the threshold of his house; the idea was he was carrying her to his family's shrine so she can bond with his ancestors) somewhat persist to this day
@FatrickAteman
@FatrickAteman 9 ай бұрын
The Riften marriage feels like an IRL courtroom marriage where the two involved just want to get it in legal writing and be done with it as fast as possible.
@haberak3310
@haberak3310 6 ай бұрын
Definitely. It feels as secular as you can get in a society with a legally recognized religion and keeps cultural traditions to a minimum, with only a few family and friends, no more than can fit on a few pews. All of that I think is a shame, but it makes sense as it would be a pain to program in all of the different cultural weddings. Still, I hope there is a mod that gives a proper marriage overhaul
@madssocks8532
@madssocks8532 27 күн бұрын
That's exactly why I was gonna say I'd prefer a Nordic wedding! Basically exactly what my wife and I had - someone said some pretty words, we said "I do", and bam! married
@CreatorofSecks
@CreatorofSecks 7 ай бұрын
ngl, the Orc marriage/courtship ritual sounds really sweet; I mean, if I was an orc lass, I would be infatuated with someone if they recited a violent love poem and got me pristine wines and cheeses.
@ReformedSauron
@ReformedSauron Жыл бұрын
The imperial custom with the family tree pillow is the one I would like the most, but the orc one is definitely the most unique.
@kallenevanpera9230
@kallenevanpera9230 Жыл бұрын
*clank* 🥄 ;-)
@naka488
@naka488 Жыл бұрын
Actually quite like the Nord version, you wear an amulet and show that you're available, if someone likes you they can speak to you and you either say yay or nay. The entire are they single/do they like me state that takes a lot of time and is tbh exhausting can be eliminated and I like that a lot.
@Marin117.
@Marin117. Жыл бұрын
And thats how you end up with Octieve San asking for you hand in marriage lol
@feenickstv4209
@feenickstv4209 Жыл бұрын
dunmer women got me like: WAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@hawkeyedsniper7269
@hawkeyedsniper7269 Ай бұрын
Do not ask the bosmer what they do when their spouse dies
@kjaldir1089
@kjaldir1089 Жыл бұрын
Shor son of Shor pretty much confirms that War-Wife/Bed-Wife are indeed titles for a wife. Basing it on the real life Norse culture, it wouldn't be strange for the Nords or at least early Nords/Atmorans to have multiple wives and or concubines.
@sleepysartorialist
@sleepysartorialist Жыл бұрын
I suspect that orcs are strict because most of the tribe would be siblings, right? Sounds like a sensible way to prevent incest and the unfortunate consequences of it being born unwell. The whole violence and romance thing sounds a bit like some Pacific Islander traditions. It's not that weird. Guess my POV is just different being Indigenous myself. 🤷🏾
@Turtletoise
@Turtletoise Жыл бұрын
Lol imagine not bein wyte
@sleepysartorialist
@sleepysartorialist Жыл бұрын
@@Turtletoise Not sure what your goal was here but that was really foolish and you should probably go outdoors and make some friends. You seem like a sad little person. Good luck.
@squidmanfedsfeds5301
@squidmanfedsfeds5301 Жыл бұрын
@@Turtletoise didn’t know it was possible
@WetbackNoSetback
@WetbackNoSetback 11 ай бұрын
Amor Apache we call it in mexico 😂😜
@WetbackNoSetback
@WetbackNoSetback 11 ай бұрын
@@Turtletoisei couldnt imagine being pasty & fearful of the sun lol i thank all the gods i was born with Melanin in my flesh
@ladyoblivious
@ladyoblivious Жыл бұрын
6:35 I wonder if the change from mountainous outdoor weddings changed to inside a temple because of dragons... game play wise at least. I can see it now, you're in the middle of getting married to your spouse and a random dragon comes in and starts killing everyone. Ceremony ends and the accumulated damage takes out you, you spouse, or both~
@nerdragon2649
@nerdragon2649 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, fitting for this Valentines month! Glad I was of help, friend!
@olpash
@olpash Жыл бұрын
Wait, why has no one thanked you yet? Researchers need their confidence boost! So thank you, you nerdy scaly!
@nerdragon2649
@nerdragon2649 Жыл бұрын
​@@olpash I thank you humbly for your kind words, _fahdon_
@Janoha17
@Janoha17 Жыл бұрын
For the Orcs, does the woman throw things while the suitor recites the poetry?
@dekay1428
@dekay1428 11 ай бұрын
I remember in Skyrim wh3n I married a female orc who didn't want to be married off, we got married, and she commented that Nordic weddings was less bloody than she thought or something. Even though I am an Argonian
@somerandommen
@somerandommen 11 ай бұрын
Yes? Your race wouldn't change the fact you're having a traditionally Nordic wedding.
@Jiub_SN
@Jiub_SN 5 ай бұрын
I mean you are in Skyrim, honestly marrying in the way the locals do for 2 foreign races makes a lot of sense, though they should've added an orc wedding if you marry the orc given their tribes are around skyrim
@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs
@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs 4 ай бұрын
_"Forge wife!: the rippling of your muscles as you work the forge is pleasing."_ Absolute rizz-master _💯💯💯🙏🙏🙏_
@Formoka
@Formoka Жыл бұрын
This is fantastically informative. While I was hoping for some Bosmer traditions, the whole thing is fascinating.
@NovoCognition
@NovoCognition Жыл бұрын
A lot of interesting practices. I wonder in cases between the different races and cultures, the frequency that certain traditions take precedence over others.
@Jiub_SN
@Jiub_SN 5 ай бұрын
Depends on the individuals I'd imagine, like a dunmer who isn't exceptionally fond of their culture and has moved to elsweyr likely would rather do the khajit things
@Jiub_SN
@Jiub_SN 5 ай бұрын
That, or potentially defaulting to the imperial way as their culture is so widespread that it'd be a good sort of secular pick for the likely secular couple of different races
@BaldPolishBiotechnol
@BaldPolishBiotechnol 11 ай бұрын
Of course Mephala and Boetiah could have a lot to do with marriages! have you never thought of divorce lawyers?
@yokai333
@yokai333 Жыл бұрын
Better than daedra wedding ceremonies. Also I recommend tsimshian stories for songs of love and violence. That's what I got from orsimeri marriage for the wandering orcs
@SwordlordRoy
@SwordlordRoy Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, are there any notable resources for finding out about the War Machines and Siege Engines of Tamriel? I mean, A Ballista is a Ballista is a Ballista, but what are those siege bridge things from the 3 Fates Cinematic? Do the Argonians use anything unique like the Choking swamp gas that keeps Central Black Marsh inaccessible?
@Zathurious
@Zathurious 11 ай бұрын
I would like a traditional Nord wedding. Outside, sun shining, in the shadow of the throat of the world.
@justsomecat
@justsomecat 7 ай бұрын
I would really like to hear an Orc poem
@RestlessHarp
@RestlessHarp Жыл бұрын
I always appreciate the depth and detail of your lore videos! Great work again and thanks to both of you!
@elizabethtetrick8700
@elizabethtetrick8700 2 ай бұрын
If you are an orc, you gotta pay the cheese tax if you wish to woo a lady. 😂
@TheVioletBunny
@TheVioletBunny Жыл бұрын
My ring is famous lol
@stijnwildeboer8809
@stijnwildeboer8809 Жыл бұрын
Immaculate timing, as always ❤️
@psionicdante3532
@psionicdante3532 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or can anyone else see a situation where maphala decides to be the patron goddess of a wedding cuz I can definitely see here doing something like that only if it’s the wedding of someone important or who has helped her in a big way like the Nerivar or the last Dragon born who helped her get her blade back.
@lancew1168
@lancew1168 Жыл бұрын
Get to feeling better. Great video and I think I would choose Nord, the mountaintop view would be a great way to start.
@AB-gh5be
@AB-gh5be 5 ай бұрын
it's not as violent as i would've liked, but i tried my hand at an orc courting poem! great maid of malacath, fair kin to sworn oath, the path of my sword carves your name. in vein-painted armor i bow down before you, offering the fruits of my strength to the same. i hunted great beasts, from plain, wood, and fen, and fierce were our contests of might. yet swift as i slew them, i craved for the thrill of your blade by my own in the fight. no sabrecat's fang could rival your tusks, no troll's blows could outmatch your swing. and when draws your axe the chaurus heart's-blood, ne'er does your tough skin suffer its sting. i bow now before you with trophies of battle, but this warrior could have no greater pride, if, great maid of malacath, fair kin to sworn oath, you'd hunt with me, be the axe by my side.
@MirIsAwesome
@MirIsAwesome Ай бұрын
that is actually so cute 10/10 would marry if i was an orc maid
@chellinacell7450
@chellinacell7450 6 ай бұрын
In a fantasy setting I would love to cherry pick how my life would be, but overall a Nord tradition sounds amazing and somewhat familiar.
@MajusFederation
@MajusFederation Жыл бұрын
there's an Orc Clan in the Wrothgar Region of ESO led by a Female Orc Chief actully
@christophermills7693
@christophermills7693 Жыл бұрын
tha war wife thing could be married on the battlefield too
@jpenguins
@jpenguins Жыл бұрын
Cool video
@darrenvilleneuve8311
@darrenvilleneuve8311 11 ай бұрын
My favorite is the stronghold orcs just for the Image of them eating cheese and then saying a poem they wrote 😂
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wish we had something you could wear in puplic to show you are single and looking for a partner that would make it easier to find someone.
@nabookraye5789
@nabookraye5789 Жыл бұрын
There's Claddagh rings. You can look up more on them, but they are from Ireland and there's a whole system depending on which hand you wear them and which way is facing out that to denote if you are either single, dating, engaged, or married. Not saying that others would always recognize it, but I always thought it was a neat idea!
@LadyCoyKoi
@LadyCoyKoi 11 ай бұрын
The Dunmar practices sound similar to the practices of how I inherit the religious practices and customs of my family, particularly through ones ancestors. Santeria runs deep on my mother side, so certain traits from ones grandparents and great-grandparents can skip a generation or two and show up in the grandkids or great-grandkids... I think that would be similar to how the Dark Elves and half-race children would be as well... not just weaken but can and would skip altogether from one generation and show up the abilities in the next or two. I know I get visions through dreams and day-dreams. Anyways I would properly be very familiar to their customs more so than the other races in Tameriel. The Orcs remind me so much of Klingon fraction in Star Trek. Both being war-like.
@warrenslittleworld1387
@warrenslittleworld1387 Ай бұрын
I would either marry a Dummer, Altmer, or a Khajiit. Maybe an Argonian....
@timothym2011
@timothym2011 Жыл бұрын
There is a female orc in western Skyrim in eso actually
@sebastianyoshikage6352
@sebastianyoshikage6352 Жыл бұрын
Could you make a video on Mannimarco cause I love his character and I don’t think you made a video on him?
@honinakecheta601
@honinakecheta601 6 ай бұрын
With you mentioning the Ptolemy dynasty now I’m wondering if you’d do a video analysis on incest in elder scrolls, for example I read somewhere that the high elves engage in incest to maintain purity and that’s why their population is so small
@leoferwer1813
@leoferwer1813 7 ай бұрын
In ESO Valinka Stoneheaver (a Miner Hireling) says: "In order to settle a debt my foolish brothers have accumulated in my absence, they decided to marry me to old Thorgrim Wartnose. They think to sell me as so much cattle? Well, think again! And Olgath gave the amulet of Mara to me! My brother! It wasn't even presented properly-not that it matters, anyway." So the "Amulet thing" is not that modern in Skyrim. Maybe they had other traditions, but since the second era they were pretty much "imperialized". And, also, it seems the amulet is used like a wedding ring, idk... Anyways, thanks for this video (and all of your videos). I'm trying to make an rpg campaign based in Elder Scrolls, and you are my unofficial lore master ;)
@markeustace199
@markeustace199 11 ай бұрын
interesting reference to the Ptolemy family tree, I mean some people have an actual family tree, in contrast the Ptolemy's had a plank instead.....bit like the lannisters in G.O.T.
@kingjom5651
@kingjom5651 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on Shor, I'm always confused by the relationship between shor, lorkhan, and the last dragonborn
@Distortion23
@Distortion23 Жыл бұрын
There isn’t any connection between the Last Dragonborn and Shor. It is a theory spread around as fact by people who do too little research. Shor is in Sovmgarde while the Last Dragonborn is there. The Heroes of Sovngarde outright say that his throne seems empty due to mortals not be able to look upon him properly. Tsun does not know the Last Dragonborn and will explicitly state that Shor does not know them if they introduce themselves as Listener or Nightingale. Tsun will even state that the Last Dragonborn’s soul belongs to Nocturnal if they are a Nightingale, the idea that Akatosh even has a claim, let alone the strongest claim is false and you can even meet other Dragonborns in Sovngarde, further proving Alatosh has no claim. Tsun is a Nordic God like Shor and Alduin, as well as being Shor’s Shield-Thane. The Ghost of Old Hroldan mistakes the Last Dragonborn for Hjalti/Tiber because both have dragon souls and dragon blood.
@ikad5229
@ikad5229 Жыл бұрын
​@@Distortion23Which Dragonborn can you meet? I don't remember any, as Ysgramor and Jurgen Windcaller weren't Dragonborns. The rest are great heroes but none Dragonborn.
@Distortion23
@Distortion23 Жыл бұрын
@@ikad5229 "Hail, Dragonborn. That honor is also mine - to our shared birthright you'll bring new glory!" It's random but that is the quote they will use.
@ikad5229
@ikad5229 Жыл бұрын
@@Distortion23 Oh, so this can be said by anyone? That's interesting. At first I thought you were refering to Ysgramor, and that would make my blood boil. As, If I'm not mistaken, there can't be Dragonborns before Alessia.
@Distortion23
@Distortion23 Жыл бұрын
@@ikad5229 Dragonborns existed long before Alessia. Miraak was the first and there were supposedly other Dragonborns that focused on killing dragons. Alessia was just the first Dragonborn Empress.
@DollyBelladonna
@DollyBelladonna Жыл бұрын
Guar ! 🥰😍
@kakarottuzumaki4346
@kakarottuzumaki4346 5 ай бұрын
1:50 Min.: I wouldnt call Dibella goddess of love. She is more the goddess of lust. Lust and love arent the same. What mara brings is love. Its the faithful true love and the contection between to humans and mer that love eatch outher form the bottom of there souls. Dibellas version of love is just physical attraction so basicly only LUST NOT love.
@youngoutlaw5150
@youngoutlaw5150 6 ай бұрын
What is the love that single people?Is the one with family
@castlebarron1788
@castlebarron1788 5 ай бұрын
Isn’t Mara the concubine of shor? Whose wife is/was Kyne?
@otterbaby7769
@otterbaby7769 Жыл бұрын
Hear me out, lesbian Orc commune where all the girls are married to each other and spend all day fighting, making cheese, and reciting bad poetry.
@TheSonOfDumb
@TheSonOfDumb Жыл бұрын
Someone's got a fetish
@redsaraleeroy1602
@redsaraleeroy1602 Жыл бұрын
Definitely the one where you get to be in a lesbian polygamist relationship
@georges2842
@georges2842 6 ай бұрын
I love that most races make a big event of their marriage while Nords are out here just doing the ol' Mell Brooks "Married In A Hurry" bit.
@Jiub_SN
@Jiub_SN 5 ай бұрын
Gigachad Nords, just put on your necklace and talk to that hot warrior and you're done
@stormcloakknowledge8610
@stormcloakknowledge8610 Жыл бұрын
💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
@zigman3105
@zigman3105 6 ай бұрын
I wont even get married in this game
@lordmortos979
@lordmortos979 Жыл бұрын
That's not what war wife means.
@georgeoldsterd8994
@georgeoldsterd8994 10 ай бұрын
Actually Nordic tradition doesnt even need officialized marriage. In Oblivion you can meet a Nordic couple who laugh at the Imperials for officializing marriages, saying that they "married" the traditional Nordic way, as in they just got together without any rituals or anything. Also, in traditional Nordic religion, Shor had two wives at once, which suggests that polygamy is/ was allowed to some degree.
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 11 ай бұрын
2:19 I don't know where you saw that commoners in medieval times irl married for love instead of profit and perpetuating their family XD 15:59 Or so they believe.
@huntersutton5489
@huntersutton5489 7 ай бұрын
What would happen if a male Orc cheften (sorry I'm bad at spelling) wanted to marry another male Orc/Orcs instead of a female Orc/Orcs?
@ImperialKnowledge
@ImperialKnowledge 7 ай бұрын
Good question. There doesnt seem to be an exact lore explanation because on one hand, the chief is the ultimate authority so if he/she wanted it, nobody could stop them. But on the other hand the chief is the only one allowed to have partners and children and thus the strongholds new population depends on him/her. So that complicates things a bit, but im sure there could be workarounds for that, i just dont know how well they would fit in orc culture
@huntersutton5489
@huntersutton5489 7 ай бұрын
@@ImperialKnowledge oki Thanks for responding
@rodricksage5963
@rodricksage5963 Жыл бұрын
a human male, marring an elf, based.
@Turtletoise
@Turtletoise Жыл бұрын
Fucking gross!
@rodricksage5963
@rodricksage5963 Жыл бұрын
@@Turtletoise what? are you racist? you damned N'wah!
@feenickstv4209
@feenickstv4209 Жыл бұрын
even more based if its a dark elf
@rodricksage5963
@rodricksage5963 Жыл бұрын
@@feenickstv4209 my N'wah!
@feenickstv4209
@feenickstv4209 Жыл бұрын
@@rodricksage5963 a certified n'wah classic
@pandorasbox4238
@pandorasbox4238 5 ай бұрын
I think you missed half the races.
@georgeoldsterd8994
@georgeoldsterd8994 10 ай бұрын
Ironically, Boethiah and Mephala are themselves a couple, in fact, they're the only couple among the known Daedric Princes.
@eburel506
@eburel506 5 ай бұрын
Kinda sad for the high elves everything is arranged over years or decades and equaled a loveless marriage.
@davidmiller2257
@davidmiller2257 Жыл бұрын
Last comment
@jourcontre-jour1286
@jourcontre-jour1286 Жыл бұрын
I will not accept to marry under any custom other than orcish.
@LongTran-kp3kz
@LongTran-kp3kz 4 ай бұрын
...A lot of marriages and relationships in Tamriel sound... both very realistic with their cultural baggage, and kind of annoying bc of it.... Oof. I love it though. Wish there was more polygamy though, ngl. Oh well. 'realism' and all that. Though Orc culture sounds... oof.
@XenobiaWinterWolfMoon
@XenobiaWinterWolfMoon Жыл бұрын
Apparently my personal beliefs match that of Mara's teaching. I to believe that souls are genderless. So the only time gender even matters is if the couple wish to procreate the more "old fashion way"
@zman837
@zman837 Жыл бұрын
My soul DEF has a gender
@SalesmanWave
@SalesmanWave Жыл бұрын
Optimus prime is my soul gender
@edenmairay60
@edenmairay60 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that souls are genderless.
@kanbinadaydream6486
@kanbinadaydream6486 Жыл бұрын
My soul takes the form of an angry goblin, I think
@XenobiaWinterWolfMoon
@XenobiaWinterWolfMoon Жыл бұрын
@@kanbinadaydream6486 probably
@BronzetheGolden
@BronzetheGolden Жыл бұрын
Real Sigmas favour the Altmer beliefs on marriage
@Tom_Cruise_Missile
@Tom_Cruise_Missile Жыл бұрын
Inbred knife ears lmfao
@BronzetheGolden
@BronzetheGolden 11 ай бұрын
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile Blessed by Mara💛
@Tom_Cruise_Missile
@Tom_Cruise_Missile 11 ай бұрын
@@BronzetheGolden Blessed by an abundance of chromosomes more like
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