I don't think the lack of 'super forms' is a huge reason why people don't like the game as much. The levels are very inconsistent in quality, and they hadn't really figured out which elements worked and which didn't.

@@Apanblod I think that's the fault of the marketing because they keep saying the game is fast even tho it's more about platforming

Bruno .... what’s dumb about this comment

@Bruno I too would like to know what is dumb about that comment. Projecting much? It's you're not your bud. I found it to be a lovely comment.

Bruno says the guy who used the wrong “you’re” 💀😂

Thanks! Sonic 2, Sonic Advance 2, and Sonic Adventure 2 to are in the works :)

implantgames | Cool!

I've never heard anyone criticise sonic the hedgehog. Well unless you mean the modern games in general, but that's fair critisicm because they weren't a patch on the mega drive titles. I've never heard anyone criticise the og mega drive games, in fact nothing but universal praise. Which they deserve because they're timeless. Personally I think they're far more impressive for their time than the Mario games, sonic had speed Mario was just a super well made platform game didn't do anything special, wasn't revolutionary in any way. Great all the same. I remember when sonic first came out, coming back to school after Christmas holidays... It was the only thing people were talking about, this new sonic thing I'd never heard of. That was in the uk though mega drive was alot more successful there

Haha, glad you enjoyed :) And yes, the drowning music... ah!

I don't think it has to do with a bandwagon mentality. It has to do with an abundance of terrible games. Ever since its awkward transition to 3D, the Sonic franchise has always struggled to really find its identity. There have been a variety of titles with hugely differing atmospheres, stories, and mechanics. And of these, only a very small handful have been successful while the others have ranged from below-average to absolute garbage.

Mermaid Song they are missing out.

Lmafo?

@Arlo, the only truly terrible Sonic 3D games have been Sonic 06 and possibly Sonic Forces. The other 3D games range from good to mixed.

secretagentman I agree, Sonic Lost World isn't even a bad game but it's received as terrible for whatever reason. The only truly garbage Sonic games are Sonic 06 (which IMO isn't even that terrible because I'm a sucker for the adventure style gameplay but I understand why it is hated so much), Shadow the Hedgehog, Secret Rings (mostly because it's clunky controls but it's story was pretty interesting and I like Darkspine Sonic), and maybe Sonic Forces (I haven't completed forces yet however). I heard Black Night was terrible to some too but I've never played it and have seen little gameplay of it

Welcome to the good ending club :D

js200gb Same, beat the game on a Model 1 Genesis and I appreciate Sonic 1 WAY more then I did before. Same thing happened with Crash 1.

Thanks man, I appreciate it!

Right on :)

Kopuz debug mode!

Galaxyvoyager128 Same, but considering Sonic's color is my favorite and his personality seems more chill, he's my most favorite nowadays.

I think it's more common to meet mario fanboys who dislike sonic than the other way around.

Yes. You’re literally the only person who likes both Sonic and Mario.

No. I like both too.

I have a combined 100+ videos on both Sonic and Mario on my channel. I definitely like both.

Haha, I forgot all about that! The first time I played it I thought the same!

Glad you enjoy the videos! I think you'll find fewer howevers in later videos ;)

implantgames Thanks for the reply!

Apologies if it came across negative. I discovered your channel last night and your reviews are air tight and well done. We all have a go-to word. In my videos I say "alright" a lot. Though, I have 1 viewer so you are winning the Internet! Kudos

Lol, it's all good. You're comments were downright polite compared to some of the stuff that gets directed towards me...

I think my favorite aspect of the first game is the lack of "stuff" added in. I like there is just one character and very few gimmicks. It's a quality title for sure, especially compared to platformers outside of Sonic/Mario.

The bearded gamer Sonic CD, Sonic 1, and Sonic 3 are the best of the 2D games for sure.

The bearded gamer. me too, i also like Sonic 1, as my favorite game

Thanks, will do!

Thanks mate! I think it's the subpar narration.

implantgames what are you talking about, the permanent sarcastic voice is what elevates it to a 10/10.

Well... It's because the original MARIO BROS shook the industry while Sonic just perfected the platformer

Despite playing, beating, and completing dozens of Sonic titles at this point, the original is still my favorite :) From a subjective/opinion stand point, something about it's simplicity appeals very strongly to me, and it remains my favorite!

***** Ohhhh Reginald..... I disagree

+The Side Quest Gamer Did you know that in Scrap Brain Zone Act 3 there is a shortcut under the moving platforming that makes you finish the level in 30 seconds if careful enough? Really useful. :)

Marius Urucu Yeah. I always tend to use that because the rest of the stage sucks.

The problem with your comment is that you are ranking Sonic games higher than the first title. As the beginning of the series Sonic 1 still stands up. Yeah Sonic 2 was Sonic 1 but much better because it incorporated the Spin Dash and Sonic 3 went even further with the insta-shield along with Sonic's abilities with the elemental shields, Sonic 1 still stands up to this day. It's a game where it all began and overtime it still doesn't suck. I also don't get the hate for Labyrinth Zone. Yeah it's not a speed level by any means but there are much worse water levels out there and actually if Sonic had the Spin Dash in Sonic 1, Labyrinth would have been a non-issue. In fact Hydrocity is objectively a harder water level with far more traps and enemies. Imagine using Sonic 1 "Sonic" in Hydrocity, people wouldn't call it one of their favorite levels.

Labyrinth is not a "non-issue" with the spindash, as seen in several romhacks and the mobile remaster of the game, which has the spindash. Unlike Hydrocity, the stage is not based around speedy exploration and platforming. Labyrinth is based entirely on waiting. Waiting for bubbles, waiting for spike balls to move, waiting for spikes to go back into the ground. Adding the spindash may make the small breathers take less time but it doesn't fix the main problem which is the entire stage being based on standing still and waiting for things to move. Hydrocity, however is based around Sonic's speed. If you are skilled enough in avoiding enemies and traversing the obstacles such as spikes and air currents(?) that push you upwards, you will never have to wait for an air bubble. The water shield is not needed to make air bubbles obsolete. There are several secrets you can find, and while Labyrinth has the occasional secret, Hydrocity encourages you to make use of the level design and physics to find Special Rings, invincibility boxes, and alternate pathways. You do not need the spindash, insta-shield, or elemental shields to go through Hydrocity with ease. Admittedly, Hydrocity is a bit slower without use of the spindash as you will have to build up some speed to go around the loops, but speed is not hard to get. You can easily get through Hydrocity with just basic movement and rolling. However, neither is the perfect water level. Aquatic Ruins is the best in my opinion, as if you are familiar enough with the level design and skilled enough, you can keep out of the water entirely. I've never personally done it, but I've stayed out of the water for a large portion of the stage.

Sonic Mania proves there is a lot of love around sonic too though

Olivier.wmv Actually. A shit ton of people, myself included, prefer Sonic 2 for some reason

Ted Michel I wasn't serious

Oh...never mind, then.

There really is no objective answer to this kind of question. It's all a matter of personal preference. Cheers ;)

It can be weird for you guys, but in my opinion, Sonic 1 is the best, great difficulty, speed and plataforming, rlly good

I agree with you on this issue. But as it has never been confirmed as fact, I don't want to present it as a fact.

It doesn't save the player's Chaos Emeralds though

@@dreamy4522 you could do the level select get the emerald then reset this only worked for the fist 5 emeralds

It's a game I've always wanted but have yet to see it in the wild. Someday :)

implantgames its good

Sorry, but Billy Hatcher never was good :D It was a nice game and I don't think it's much worse from today's view.

Sega cd instead of sonic3

I wish the Drift games were released on the Master System... glad you enjoy the Sonic vids :)

implantgames There's Game Gear to SMS conversion ROM hacks.

thenebbiechanel 1 yyyyyyyy

the best friend gamers TBFG its my fav but it has terrible level design and time traveling can be frustrating but other than that its decent

Sonic CD was never 'good' in the first place...

I don't think so, Sonic 1 holds up way more than CD, but if you like it, it's your opinion

Hell yes it is

I sometimes use level select cheat codes to practice levels, especially in Lion King... but that is all I ever use them for. If they help people enjoy a game more, then all the power to them :) I'm certain the Game Genie enhanced many kid's lives when it came to the NES!

It probably isn't the best but it's still my favorite. I really dig the one-button controls and also dig the more platform focused levels.

If a first time player reviewed Sonic 1 that comments would all resemble this: "Get gud nub."

implantgames Oh god you are right. There is literally no way to criticize classic Sonic without some sort of bias.

My Sonic Adventure 2 review is literally filled with "You suck at this game" and "Get good." If you're looking for a review of the original classic trilogy by someone who didn't beat the games as a kid I would recommend checking out Exo Paradigm Gamer if you haven't already.

implantgames Will do! Appreciate the help!

I would personally rank Sonic CD bottom of that list by a considerable margin. The game is simply too flawed to ignore the negatives: time travel mechanic, level design, boss battles, special stages etc. That's just me though.

Thank you very much!

Do people even remember Mario Bros. anymore? :P

implantgames yes. very much so

The exit makes perfect sense. It the lack of control while spinning around that is the problem. Gunstar Heroes probably best exemplifies how to create an awesome challenge without resorting to questionable level design, sloppy enemy placement, or buggered controls to test the player's skill.

+the mudkip-master What?

Where? I don't see it.

Now you know.

implantgames huh, neat

That is terrible advice. Probably a factor in why some people unnecessarily shit on this game.

I'm going to have to give that one a try....

sonic is more enjoyable than mario, perhaps mario is more revolutionary but sonic is a better game, mario is boring repetitive and ugly

Really? The Genesis / Mega Drive games are generally regarded as excellent, along with Sonic CD on the Sega CD. The Sonic Advance games on the Gameboy Advance are also well regarded, as is Sonic Rush on the 3DS. Basically, the 2D Sonic games are good, and most (but not all) of the 3D Sonic games are poor.

Don't forget Colors' critical reception and Generations is considered a good game as well.

Go back to IGN.

Thanks!

Thanks boss.

That's just you.

In some circles :(

In some retarded circles then. More likely some sad PC Engine, Amiga and SNES fanboys because the Genesis was directly competiting with these systems and kicked all kind of asses while none of these systems were competiting each others. A tough spot for Sega's console and it handled it perfectly. Now if only the Saturn did as good as the Genesis... (it still did much better than the Amiga CD32 or NEC PC-FX).