In-Depth Sanda Tutorial Translated And Analyzed (Combat Kungfu)

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This is a very in-depth basic tutorial about Sanda aka Sanshou. Sanda is the premier combat sport of Chinese martial arts. It was created in 1979 and continues to evolve. In this video tutorial likely from the late 80s or early 90s, we have many of the fundamental strikes and throws of Sanda explained and demonstrated, along with some of the common beginner errors illustrated. This tutorial is super old school but amazing to analyze. In this Fight Commentary Breakdowns in-depth, we go through the entire tutorial and explain its elements. We have stances and footwork, punches, kicks, throws, takedowns, combos, and blocks and breakfalls. This is probably one of the most in-depth martial arts videos we have ever done, and we learned so much from doing this analysis. If you want to more of these, please consider sharing this video and joining as a channel member. This analysis took a lot of work and analysis and translation. Also, please go check out the people who helped contribute to the analysis and the outro! Have you guys ever practiced kungfu or 散打?
Timecodes:
0:00 Intro
0:11 Stance
2:58 Jab (冲拳)
12:36 Hook (贯拳)
17:10 Uppercut (抄拳)
22:57 Spinning backfist (鞭拳)
24:37 Front kick (蹬腿）
29:15 Side kick (踹腿)
34:12 Roundhouse Kick (横踢腿)
39:02 Standing sweep kick (勾踢腿)
41:33 Spin kick (横扫腿)
43:16 Sweep kick (后扫腿)
46:15 Throws
51:10 Standard Combos
54:24 Defensive moves
1:04:58 Some moves not featured
1:07:17 Final thoughts about sparring
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@FightCommentary 3 жыл бұрын

Big shoutout to Dean Rosenwald for helping me with this: kzfaq.info/love/EhUu_b7x8_QIlDszsHiM9A Big shoutout to Rob Watt for helping me with this: kzfaq.info/love/eQsyqEoxMpzmtWi_ZLAaFg Here's an in-depth history of Sanda: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKp_nrN_37Grcps.html The line I said at 1:10:50 is actually bestowed upon me by the great Jin Young, so credit goes where it's due: kzfaq.info

@gabriellavergne9462 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Jerry, in Wing Chun we usually keep 70% weight on the back leg. by shifting our weight to the back we can be faster when keeping our aggressor (with low kick) on our desired range to seek for bridges and accentuate our turning for angling off.

@FightCommentary 3 жыл бұрын

@@gabriellavergne9462 Could you show some examples? I would love to see!

@gabriellavergne9462 3 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary Yeah sure but I dont know how we can do that, sounds fun thought. For the moment, watch that video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftt7o5N4xNqwe3U.html. It is explaining the defensive leg kick or knee kick from wing chun and all of it intentions and variations. Notice that Wing Chun is a counter/striking base type system where the aggressor as to attack to expose a bridging opportunity. But everyone know that: you have a plan until you get clip! Now, if we stick to Fundamental principals, the video doesn't explain the wing chun stance because it is more oriented on the Combat sport and the kick. What you have to know is that stance is designed to work in conjonction with the showned leg kick and other self defense boring principals like covering and distancing your crouch from the aggressor attack ( shoving your center of mass 70% back on you leg). Also the purpose is by putting our weight to the back we preparing the entry of our bridge like a spring-loaded projectile. Hope I have made myself precise and clear because it is all about what Wing Chun infer : precison and clear as water.

@MacLeodRoy 3 жыл бұрын

Do more of these. There are numerous Sanda instructionals on KZfaq that haven't been translated.

@chbjj 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Jerry did a good job!

@derek6817 3 жыл бұрын

FYI traditional Sanda don't use a push kick, its a stamp with the heal, almost like a stomp.

@olocin3477 3 ай бұрын

You might have to push tho especially if they catch your kick

@derek6817 3 ай бұрын

@@olocin3477 it's always a possibility, but you pull the stamp back immediately, making it harder to catch than a push...

@GluttonforPunishment Жыл бұрын

This is really interesting. I train in Sanda currently and it's definitely evolved. Fun to see some old school Sanda.

@jet9797 11 ай бұрын

I found the side kick part really interesting. In the Kung fu I learned the side kick was meant to strike with the heel of the foot and use more glute muscle, kind of a stomping motion. It looks like what is being thrown here.

@inkredibill6352 3 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely great. Found a new great channel to lurk.

@14leonids 3 жыл бұрын

Gold! Thanks man! More video like this about Sanda!!!!!!!!!!!! And commentary with different opinions :)

@allrisemartialarts9189 3 жыл бұрын

Really cool! I always wanted to learn more about Sanda.

@saderrick15 11 ай бұрын

I’m from Ga I want to practice this fighting style and mix it with sambo

@dannybudd137 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Jerry, keep them coming 👏

@bripowered 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome work Jerry. Thanks for uploading this.

@FightCommentary 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@aldoajikhafidyan281 3 жыл бұрын

i have a bad habit of dropping my other hand when punhcing too, this is helping. thanks

@FightCommentary 3 жыл бұрын

If you're in the LA area, come visit Dean when he's teaching!

@stevenseagull7589 3 жыл бұрын

With your haircut, mustache, and that glasses, you look like a typical Asian uncle who will give you some money when you visit him. And he has a shop.

@everettinjun274 3 жыл бұрын

Uncle Jerry

@FightCommentary 3 жыл бұрын

@@everettinjun274 how about brotha Jerry ;)

@anotherboredperson Күн бұрын

@Fight Commentary Breakdowns for the dragon tail sweep- the main reason you don't see a lot of it is because of scoring differences. In San Da, it doesn't matter how you take them down, you get the point- but in MMA, a takedown without an immediate grab is a real crapshoot on how things can turn out. There's a lot of takedowns that aren't a good idea when the other person is a very fast groundfighter who can just scissor you down from the exact position you dumped them in

@ExtraordinaryTK 3 жыл бұрын

10:18 that’s common parry technique use in MuayThai to counter front kick. Maybe this was adopted from when they fought in Thailand in the 70s.

@elenchus 3 жыл бұрын

that's gedan barai when used in karate, one of the most basic defenses, and it does work well against any sort of straight kick like a teep or front snap

@michaelterrell5061 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen the same technique in Yi-quan. It seems to be pretty popular in all striking styles.

@ExtraordinaryTK 3 жыл бұрын

In that case, Sanda pretty much adopted almost all stand-up techniques but they yet to master them all.

@wszjzhang 3 жыл бұрын

this shit exists in traditional Chinese martial arts since hundred years ago

@michaelterrell5061 3 жыл бұрын

@@wszjzhang is that a picture of Richard Feynman?!

@kylecruz1940 Жыл бұрын

In sanda we rarely use the follow through roundhouse kick we use snappy kick because in sanda if you use the follow through Roundhouse kick the opponent will know that you will throw a Roundhouse kick and catch it and throw you

@FightCommentary Жыл бұрын

Great point!

@Ottepeg89 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid man! With the sidekick I found the 180° base foot helps with height as well.

@FightCommentary 3 жыл бұрын

Dean taught me a really cool sidekick after I showed him this video, so my sidekicks will be better next time we look at a sanda tutorial!

@kylegarceau4569 3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of boxing, wing chun and Muay Thai mixed together if you have all those skill sets with other kung fu styles along with it to make sanda. The parries are gum sao, bil sao, gaun sao ect.... with boxing footwork and Muay Thai elements too

@raymundomartinez924 3 жыл бұрын

Sanda use snapping kicks that’s why we use hands to block kicks remember sanda it’s about speed and points more than trying to k.o someone 🙏

@charlesdacosta2446 9 ай бұрын

Yep... then comes the knockout strikes where the snap should penetrate beyond the target. Like a strike - throw

@arthemas8176 Жыл бұрын

Sanda is such a beautiful martial art

@tjsho417 3 жыл бұрын

I hope things like these will help Sanda come into mainstream like Muay Thai

@PepperBeefSoSpicy 3 жыл бұрын

I think spin low sweeps aren't commonly seen in Sanda competition (From I have seen) because rules often forbid any contact with the ground that isn't your feet. And for the low spin sweep kick you have to put your hands on the ground for balance, not to mention its really easy to mess it up and get your knee to contact the floor which is gonna give points to the opponent.

@LunaticReason 3 жыл бұрын

40/60 stance on the corkscrew punch on the cross and you're not leaning in on it but rather supposed to move in with your entire body. If you are throwing with just your arms then your doing it wrong because the power is supposed to be from your entire body mass. The weight should be pushing/loading on the rear leg(60) as to give you some springing/explosive action.

@baconburger9156 3 жыл бұрын

39:10 a good way to sweep is imagining that your opponent is standing in the center of a room and you want to push/pull his upper body to one corner of the room and sweep the leg to the opposite corner... this works with both front and back sweeps

@user-vy2iz8cw8c 3 жыл бұрын

The "traditional" equivalent of the jab is the "left straight" (左冲拳), not the "flicking jab" (弹拳), which is actually just a backfist. The modern term for the (long range) hook is actually 摆拳. 勾拳 on its own means uppercut. 平勾拳 means close range hook. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e-CWfrFyurycgmg.htmlm49s Interestingly, this film from 1989 uses modern punching terminology like 直拳、摆拳, even though later films continued to use traditional CMA terminology. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nt-fmaxettO4hGQ.htmlm54s The spinning sweep is only occasionally used in Sanda competition as it's quite risky. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJN4npWItcvSmZs.htmlm40s I think the main reason why it's even rarer in MMA is that it's difficult to establish a top position once your opponent falls (they often fall partially on top of you). kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJN4npWItcvSmZs.htmlm37s

@FightCommentary 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for these links man. More Sanda to translate soon ;) Exciting!

@canaldesugestoesa6651 3 жыл бұрын

the emergence of a martial art that aims at combat having full effectiveness in a fight, as it is very versatile just like hapkido, of course, it does not have immobilization, because it was not made for grappling.

@xabierpascal7548 3 жыл бұрын

In shotokan karate in my gym I dont usually teach to block kicks. For punches its ok but there is to much risk of blocking a kick with an arm. For kicks you usually receive them with your arm close to your core or move out of the way if you have space.

@ferdinand6761 3 жыл бұрын

Can you share the link where you found the videos

@charlesdacosta2446 9 ай бұрын

At 5:4... where center of mass is over or between the feet. If you practice kungfu, it is fluid, meaning it is both. It is relative to what the objective is and what your opponent is doing.

@charlesdacosta2446 9 ай бұрын

13:5..... hooks even what they consider errors, we do and try to perfect, as real techniques. We even hook using the thumb joint as the weapon, so the arm can be much more extended. Again, practice and conditioning is what would make it work. My style is Tibetan white crane. Our basic is long-range sniper and counter-striker. So even using a punch to stop a leg take-down is our way.

@user-qu2jn5ni3s 3 жыл бұрын

good teacher

@MrTheil 3 жыл бұрын

Normally when I throw a Teep with a step, I do it as a feint, fooling the opponent into thinking I'm throwing a right Teep before nailing them with a left. Other than that, I just throw out a left Teep normally without a step

@assoverteakettle 3 жыл бұрын

Never seen Jerry throwing before. He's legit! He'd kick my ass for sure.

@Robert-io6ht 3 жыл бұрын

23:28 I like to call that the "give your back and then b*tch slap". Works everytime

@charlesdacosta2446 9 ай бұрын

33:3.... foot position is more about range. Most believe the longer (base foot like you said) gives the most power. But again it is all relative.

@MrTheil 3 жыл бұрын

There’s this really cool and old Sanda Basics uploaded by this guy named Wushu-Muc btw. I think you should check it out sometime

@charlesdacosta2446 9 ай бұрын

Spinning also is our more advance foot-work.

@rafiulalam5378 3 ай бұрын

Hi where can I find the original tutorial video!!

@TheBlidget 3 жыл бұрын

I swear to god someone pulled the sweep @ 44:15 off in the UFC and I can't remember who it was. I just remember going oh wow that was the shit!

@charlesdacosta2446 9 ай бұрын

In general, there are pros and cons to everything.

@RamonChiNangWong078 3 жыл бұрын

This kind videos from the 80 or 90 kinda reminds me of also of those Brazilian Luta livre/BJJ tutorials You can see how their art evolve from then to now Also those kinds of blocks, UGH, They probably trained these for kickboxing/Muay Thai matches

@ThePassionOfTheMarc 3 жыл бұрын

The chin tucking reminds me of how I learned to hold a bat in baseball.

@FightCommentary 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! Tell us more!

@elenchus 3 жыл бұрын

sweeps-as-strikes aren't that common because they're not very reliable. They can definitely be done, and I used to see ashi barai get landed in karate on occasion, but for a sweep to work, you have to compromise all points of contact (this goes for jiujitsu, too, when you have to make sure they can't post out with an arm), which means that your timing has to be absolutely perfect so that all of their weight is on the leg you're attacking, and then your technique has to be very good. Take o soto gari, for instance. This technique begins by capturing the upper body of the opponent, then forcing them off balance so that their weight is over the leg you're attacking. If you don't execute o soto gari with this preparation, you will take the leg out from under them, after which nothing will happen because they can still stand on one leg. That said, a failed sweep-as-strike kick isn't necessarily useless. Taking a leg out from under them, even if they remain standing, can compromise their balance for a moment and create an opening for a big follow up.

@elenchus 3 жыл бұрын

One thing that always bothers me about videos for sweeps from a caught kick (which are just as effective as you think they are, actually) is that they don't prepare you to get your face destroyed on the way in. If you're up against some striker who has no familiarity with a grappling situation, you might be just fine, but against an MMA fighter, they're going to pound you as you enter their space to execute the sweep. You need to protect yourself as you close that gap. Counterintuitively, out of the thousands of times I've been thrown/swept from caught kicks and single legs, it's 49:07 that's, in my opinion, perhaps the most dangerous. It doesn't look like much, but the fall is very uncontrolled and if you haven't practiced judo extensively you can very easily bounce your head off the ground. You actually need to develop your neck muscles to handle the ukemi for this, or, at least, I did. Depending on the opponents you'll be facing, you may also need to prepare yourself for jiujitsu techniques off of caught kicks. At the lowest level people can pull guard out of a caught kick, but they can also get flying armbars and triangles (see Flick vs. Duren, for instance) if you're not careful.

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

BTW, how have you been these days?

@elenchus 2 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary that's very kind of you to ask. Been very ill lately, but nothing terminal thankfully. My life's been turned upside down as my startup got acquired by a megacorp and now I'm running part of said megacorp, plus I broke up with my long-time girlfriend (the one from China) like a week before the buyout (unbeknownst to me). I'll be moving soon too, so really, everything's changing very quickly. In the unlikely event that anyone besides yourself reads this, I'd like to remind all of the would-be martial artists out there that watch your videos that you've got limited time on earth for your training before life takes over. If you're on the fence about beginning training, start today or tomorrow; if you're already training but not diligently, get diligent. In a few years you may have an extremely stressful, time-consuming career or a wife and kids or a serious injury. Your carefree teens or 20s run out very quickly and pursuing these particular hobbies becomes very difficult for many people, so don't put it off.

@bubba161 3 жыл бұрын

Sheeeewww lookin sharp with that blue jacket. good video I love sanda

@everettinjun274 3 жыл бұрын

That suit was great

@umarmars47 3 жыл бұрын

Chin tucking is like Philly Shell guard in boxing.

@THEANPHROPY 3 жыл бұрын

Bud u do not always corkscrew punches in boxing: depends upon intent; u want to cut the guy, then yes corkscrew, u want to keep them back on their toes, then fast snappy punches, you want to land a knockout straight, then land the punch but let it stay there a split second to fully offload all of the power. This is an art in & of itself as if u want u can also use the latter to spring off & add the elastic recoil to the power of the next punch with that hand!

@yip2454 3 жыл бұрын

The blocking of roundhosue kick is mroe like a scoping the leg towards the direction they are kicking. Look at zabit hes current king of sanda

@WorldAquariumSingapore 3 жыл бұрын

where is this fight? ==> Qiu BaoLong vs Xu XiaoDong

@changlu8891 3 жыл бұрын

Bajifreak said Xu stated the campaign has nothing to do with his hunting fake marital arts. It was more of a sparring session.

@WorldAquariumSingapore 3 жыл бұрын

@@changlu8891 ok u have the fight video cant wait to see them 2 fight cause this baji trainer has lots of training video online as well cheers friend

@changlu8891 3 жыл бұрын

@@WorldAquariumSingapore unfortunately I cannot find it it was played on tv only in China though they won’t let people record it.

@WorldAquariumSingapore 3 жыл бұрын

@@changlu8891 ok thanks no wonder i cant see it in YT thks friend

@changlu8891 3 жыл бұрын

@@WorldAquariumSingapore Your welcome. Stay safe and have a good night.

@ramqi6239 3 жыл бұрын

thanks great video this is indeed the basic sanda tutorial that still used today actually and by the way there is some shuai jiao techniques shown in some 80s videos against takedowns and which i think it s very interesting

@Sujiceel 3 жыл бұрын

0:56 is the diamond step? I see Mike Tyson do this footwork.

@-eea32 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure but I do this and I learned it from Tyson.

@hankwatt 3 жыл бұрын

This reminds me a lot of Kajukenbo

@nicksalvatore5717 2 жыл бұрын

Similar principles and nearly the same age

@andrewvasey1070 2 жыл бұрын

I imagine the centered weight thing is important because of takedowns and sweeps. If you put all your weight back, like some Muay Thai and taikwondo people, you are going to get swept. Yo see this often in the sanda trained yi long.

@elenchus 3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with throwing = starting the ground fight. Everyone's natural instinct is to hang on for dear life when they're thrown in a real fight and they will usually drag you down on top of them. You should also anticipate that your takedown will put you in a ground situation and use takedowns that start you in a dominant position. For instance, at 47:18 you see an old-fashioned ryo ashi dori from judo, the original double leg takedown. It worked well for scoring points back in the day, but in MMA or in jiujitsu you don't use this version because you'll get immediately pulled into guard. The modern double leg comes from wrestling and it starts you out in side control, so while it's harder to do and requires more strength, it's ultimately better if the fight continues on the ground. Now earlier you see koshi guruma, the one where they wrap their arm behind the neck of the opponent. Koshi guruma is the opposite in that if you follow through, it naturally lands in a rib-destroying kesa gatame, so you get your wind knocked out of you AND you get pinned.

@valecious7552 4 ай бұрын

Sanda/Sanshou stance reminds me of shatokan/taekwondo sometimes. It seems like bouncy in and out movement is pretty common in the competition setting. Does anyone knows the origins/reasons behind it? Is it that Sanda includes some striking art that has similar footwork to shotokan karate/taekwondo, or more bladed stance is there in order to defend takedowns and avoid being scored on (by strikes) during the competition? Here's what I mean: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9ZzmbSUmtO8lGw.html Thank you for any relevant information, guys. :)

@seanecmc 5 ай бұрын

All western with no traditional kung fu techniques?

@cpa314 Жыл бұрын

Where is the axe kick?

@danielboey1312 2 жыл бұрын

Good vid but the room's quite messy

@blacktigermartialarts7329 3 жыл бұрын

Why is Sanda not popular in China?

@stevenseagull7589 3 жыл бұрын

It's quite popular. It went to Asian Games.

@lionsden4563 3 жыл бұрын

It's the number one combat sport in China since the 80s. Sanda also have the reputation of destroying other traditional Chinese Martial Arts back when the internet didn't exist yet.

@elenchus 3 жыл бұрын

kickboxing (in general) is the most popular combat sport in China

@blacktigermartialarts7329 3 жыл бұрын

Even ZhangWeiLi didn't know what Sanda/Sanshou was. I personally would have preferred to learn Sanda than Muay Thai back in the day.

@lionsden4563 3 жыл бұрын

@@blacktigermartialarts7329, Zhang Wei Li came from a Sanda background. Sanda was created because of Muay Thai.

@charlesdacosta2446 9 ай бұрын

Old kungfu in Hong Kong, like flat feet because of hung gar influence i think. But modern kungfu will be on the balls - i think Bruce Lee started this. Styles that emphasize footwork changes would better like being on the balls of the foot.

@Facemelter5000 3 жыл бұрын

Slips and rolls man.

@Servant316 3 жыл бұрын

First!

@stevenseagull7589 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are.

@sardalamit 3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't mean much in the greater scheme..but it IS cool, isn't it?! 🥳🥳🥳

@THEANPHROPY 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the upload bud. You are not doing it right! OKOKOK I will expand lol. You are not using your shoulder to cover your chin properly. You need to also change your whole standing posture: shoulders forwards; head up chin in but close the rib cage, keep abs braced (not tight as u can dummies just enough to increase structural support & power transference) neck is straight but angled forward .... obviously ... lower your centre of gravity, stand just on the balls of your feet (not tip toes) now you are light & heavy & good to go bud ;::)) Peace & Love!

@Bruhh253 3 жыл бұрын

I thought you are american or european guy, presenter

@markmessi9020 2 жыл бұрын

Being on the balls of your feet all the time is overrated. Most of the top boxers are actually flat when they set to punch. Watch your favorite boxer punching again and you'll see what I mean

@chbjj 3 жыл бұрын

The blocks are not effective. I think you were being too nice, Jerry. Dean was more objective. All those blocks are going to get the arm broken.

@aswinmannepalli3212 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, looks like sloppy boxing and sloppy Muay Thai!

@michaelterrell5061 3 жыл бұрын

I hope your joking.

@aluisiofsjr Жыл бұрын

Actually Sanda is heavily based on Boxing, Muay-Thai and Karate, because the chineses learned in 1979 that they don't have experience on sparring, so they based Sanda in other martial arts and combinated with Shuai Jiao.