In flight Beta Descent and Approach, Pilatus Porter PC-6 Papua Indonesia.

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I’m a JAARS Pilot Mechanic with YAJASI serving in Papua Indonesia. This video is all about in flight beta descents and approaches. The Pilatus Porter is one of the rare airplanes approved for in flight beta descents.
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@kentwilliams4152 3 жыл бұрын

Great! Thanks much. It is sad that Pilatus Porter has been discontinued . Great aircraft indeed!

@heavyDriver320 Жыл бұрын

That's super impressive, never knew the PC6 had such capabilities..

@user-bt2id8dl8r 7 ай бұрын

First time seeing Beta Descent. This is amazing.

@MorrisseysMonkey 2 жыл бұрын

What a workhorse the Porter is!

@jdeandresarp 3 жыл бұрын

please, dont stop to make this kind of videos

@AlfredoRavanello 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic! Now I gonna try the same in my Flight Simulator... Wish me luck! Thanks for the video!

@audaxxx4202 3 жыл бұрын

I was skydiving a few years ago in Chambery, France and the pilot always managed to land before us after we'd jumped out. Never seen it since and now I know why, he was flying one of these.

@madmikemackas Жыл бұрын

Wow. That’s legit. Amazing work

@slkgeothermal Жыл бұрын

I am a skydiver and jump pilot, the Pilatus is one of my favorite jump planes. I love your videos keep up the great work.

@aprianto1985 8 ай бұрын

So informative

@gaetanstiker5679 Жыл бұрын

Ok! Thank you for the great demonstration of the flight beta descent!

@Tiltrotor86 4 жыл бұрын

Very cool, thank you for time and effort ! I would add that certain riggings requires to momentarily lift off the PCL into reverse to correctly enter in flight Bêta range, as not a Pil' is the same as another and some are rigged so mildly they would never enter it below 60 IAS. Some skydive PC-6s I flew were so aggressively rigged on the PCL cam and Beta valve that they entered Bêta as fast as 110 IAS in cruise and you litterally were stopped in mid air. The lifting detent is just a mark on the full PCL range after all, you can also manipulate PCL forward of the detent with the lever pulled up, and badly rigged you could even have reverse without going into that " visual " reverse range of the quadrant. I'm sure you know all of it already as a Pilot and Mechanic, it was more to add more details for other readers about the particularities of the PC-6 Bêta. Safe flights !

@LiberTY7416 4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. I made it a habit to test the point the prop goes into beta whenever I first fly a particular PC-6 or after maintenance. At altitude or early in the approach to avoid surprises near touchdown. Every operator or maintenance company seems to have a different take on the rigging. I prefer it to enter beta at beginning of the white arc (85-95kts) with the PCL at the stop. For skydiving we by the way almost never use beta descents. Our default is PCL idle, Np 1700RPM and 130kts. Is a bit nicer for the neighbors and less vibration on the airframe. Honestly do not think it is significantly slower.

@Charles-so6uf 4 жыл бұрын

Great Beta explanation, thanks from an Xplane Pilatus PC-6 pilot.

@davidpaull2605 3 жыл бұрын

Brings back happy memories of my days in the mid 1970's. Thank for the trip down memory lane.

@roryhollins4675 3 жыл бұрын

Hi from South Africa, probably the best Beta decent video I have ever seen, Pilatus could use this as their training video, you Sir are a master and an excellent Pilot, it is rare to experience an Pilot as accomplished as you are yet still maintaining the basics and being as professional as you. Keep up the good flying, I have subscribed and will be a loyal follower as well as get some of that merchandise ordered from you. Cheers & keep it real, Rory

@oldsurfknotts Жыл бұрын

Enjoy the commentary, especially that about beta

@AspiringMP Жыл бұрын

Amazing! Got my heart going...I can't wait to do that.

@stephenellis4392 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. I think I will enjoy your KZfaq videos.

@jeffsohilait9651 Жыл бұрын

Nice video, sir.

@G4Disco 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to fly one of these. There is just something about them.

@BOBANDERSON5150 3 жыл бұрын

AWESOME explanation of Beta Decent. Thanks for sharing your videos.

@AirstripBum Жыл бұрын

Good landing! New sub here.

@isaiahsmith4925 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, absolutely amazing!

@hofsve771 3 жыл бұрын

wow, very impressive stuff, with very good explanations ! Thx for your great work !

@Chikyel 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you , very instructive.

@terryc47 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou, great explanation. The altitude meter certainly helped to explain a lot to a novice. Appreciate the video.

@timkiwi 4 жыл бұрын

these are very good videos your producing. Beta works great in the standard Van. 90 kts 20 flaps 30 degrees pitch and spiral down threw a small whole in the cloud. it was part of my mountain flying training in the 206 (flight idle) back in NZ. my 1st step is always to Bug the escape.

@rpaddict5285 3 жыл бұрын

You deserve so many more subscribers

@donaldholman9070 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thank you.

@flyalaska254 Жыл бұрын

Very nice done...You will like the PC6 on 35'inc tires🥰

@jxk4500 2 жыл бұрын

woah that last landing was whack! got adrenaline behind my seat

@gregornorton6380 3 жыл бұрын

Outstanding!!

@patshes1951 Жыл бұрын

Never knew this is how its done. Very good!

@munckmb 3 жыл бұрын

That was an awesome demo and explanation! Thanks man!

@ZehrAir 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Munckmb!

@irk72ag 3 жыл бұрын

Very rare content. Thank you very much! It was interesting.

@vftsdorado9528 2 жыл бұрын

Wow beautiful stuff. Bush flying can be really interesting.

@warwickchristian5682 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome..!

@hduphdup4643 3 жыл бұрын

very clear,FULL!

@Sk1nSz 2 жыл бұрын

Beautifull aircraft... Im mesmerized by it

@tac-cobserver3788 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome flight... thanks for the knowlegde 🤙

@davidkitchingman2222 3 ай бұрын

You showed at the end a beta approach into omban strip.Do you have a video showing a departure out of omban airstrip ? That would be interesting to see .

@donnygustian6707 Жыл бұрын

awesome

@kentwilliams4152 3 жыл бұрын

Love it!

@jonathanmartin5128 4 жыл бұрын

Keep those videos coming!!

@ZehrAir 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'll try.

@TheFrankyYou 2 жыл бұрын

wow

@abhishekw2444 9 ай бұрын

Wow, awesome piloting skills

@ZehrAir 6 ай бұрын

Thanks 😁

@heinkuipers1899 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Flying! Impressive approach with Beta! Great instruction/info. Fly safe! I am an airline pilot and our operation is quite different 😁.

@Destroyer-zv2qp 4 жыл бұрын

Estos aviones son una hermosura por su alto desempeño en diferentes misiones y poder de carga...trabaje 20 ais de mis 23 en la fuerza aérea de México y aún siento esa adrenalina de los ascensos en máxima potencia y descensos beta son ya chulada, saludos!!!...

@saptoutomo4333 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing 💪👍🏻❤️

@grantmiller6570 3 жыл бұрын

That was very informative, thanks, still need the engine noise though, it adds that extra immersive touch to videos like these.

@Danko05 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video...!!!

@ZehrAir Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@timkiwi 4 жыл бұрын

would love to see a picture of your checklist switches. great idea. right trim for go round same same.

@ZehrAir 4 жыл бұрын

Ok, I'll post a pic of it for you.

@LiberTY7416 4 жыл бұрын

As said before: Good work. I have taken the Porter to some of the European altiports like Courchevel, but this is another level. Also really like your organizations safety culture! Your charts are top notch, way better than what exists for most altiports here. I noticed that you guys have your ignition on for landing, which is not something I see mentioned in my AFM. But in this rather unforgiving terrain I can totally understand why you would want that added layer of safety. One question there: do you notice any increased wear on the ignitors by doing this?

@SurfCityVideo 4 жыл бұрын

That is some macho flying.

@davidgiles9751 Жыл бұрын

Great description and demonstration here! Former E model USAF Herk driver here who's very impressed with the Porter's capabilities. PS: Thought you'd be interested to know that there are two Porter models (a default version and a payware version) available in the new MSFS2020, and some of those "simmers" are using your video as a tutorial for it.

@Danko05 Жыл бұрын

That´s right...!!! You caught us hehehe... 😁😁😁

@PeterNGloor 4 ай бұрын

reverse prop is also to taxi backwards..

@GrantBaker 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! When you started the beta descent, my ears automatically started feeling like they needed clearing. 😂

@bootsequence2098 4 жыл бұрын

Nice work on the video Zehr Air !

@ZehrAir 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bootsequence, you should put some of your Saab vids on your channel. :)

@bootsequence2098 4 жыл бұрын

@@ZehrAir i went to insta for that ;-)

@ohanailo7743 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the German Lufftwaffa, “Stuka Dive Bomber,” had the same Beta feature? It almost seemed as I was watching your decent through the clouds it had a dive bomber feel to your decent. Nice landing.

@GiuseppeSRedSky 3 жыл бұрын

Just subscribed :)

@markslandingsandaviationvi3123 4 жыл бұрын

Can i see the cockpits of these planes at this airport? Can i see the cockpits in flight as a passenger? I really love aviation and i tried to fly three different planes like the Piper PA28 Arrow in Denmark, Aeroprakt A32 (Newest version) also in Denmark my home country and a Cessna 206 Stationair in Alaska. It was amazing! Now I’m 15 and I still love aviation. I flew when i was 13 and up to now 15:)

@jasonroberts5001 3 жыл бұрын

Never gonna forget when I went to Omban

@vianhariyanto2690 4 жыл бұрын

Mantap👍👍

@ZehrAir 4 жыл бұрын

Terimaha Kasih!

@JW-gb6hq 3 жыл бұрын

👍

@dundisdundat7022 2 жыл бұрын

Can you please explain to my what the -25% prop control would be used for and what situation ? Thanks

@jamesbooth2634 Жыл бұрын

I jumped a Pilatus in Issaquah Wash. The plan was like an elevator.

@iain8837 8 ай бұрын

English?

@user-rd1vb6lc6w Жыл бұрын

Доброго времени суток. Подскажите пожалуйста вы перед посадкой тягу thrust только на idle ставите, после посадки только ручку с reach на idle переводите?

@alesserfate 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video, what was the point of the initial steep beta descent from 10k down? It didn't look like there was any serious terrain and 4k fpm on the vsi could hurt passengers who are not used to that kind of descent rate. I can understand it on an approach with an obstacle but don't see why you would descend so steeply while you could have easily done a cruise descent in the present situation.

@colins2 Жыл бұрын

It was a demonstration! The captions stated that they don't do it with passengers.

@rotax912 3 жыл бұрын

I take my hat off!!!!

@dundisdundat7022 2 жыл бұрын

And also what's the code for the strip at the end please e

@abduljabar8445 Жыл бұрын

0:47 why on earth you show the actual beta descent at the beginning?

@juanfdoarango Жыл бұрын

Hello, what is that track, for my fs2020

@dusk2dawn2 9 ай бұрын

How much was your pitch down? We could do 6000 ft/min at 270 KIAS - full speedbrakes and gear down ~ 9.5 deg nose down in the 767 :-)

@daniell1869 3 жыл бұрын

What is the long horizontal row of switches on top of the dash?

@ZehrAir 3 жыл бұрын

Its a checklist. All up before takeoff, all down before landing.

@daniell1869 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZehrAir awesome! thanks for responding. that's such a unique way to do a checklist. Maybe I'll strap one of those on to my little SR22 :D

@spambuster 2 жыл бұрын

I've gotten emails from recruiters mentioning JAARS. Is that the organization that wants volunteers for everything from pilots, dispatchers and mechanics to DO's and DOM's?

@terryterry1655 9 ай бұрын

pilatus still supporting porter with regards to spare parts?

@ZehrAir 6 ай бұрын

They are not making new porters but are still supporting parts.

@davidstockman1456 2 жыл бұрын

Audio is a little loud

@ThatGuysProject 4 жыл бұрын

is this strip marked with an identifier? would love to fly that approach in a sim to see if i could land without bending the aircraft

@williamstrachan Жыл бұрын

It is WAUN in MSFS2020

@xviii4eva Жыл бұрын

this is a bit tame, we used to descend the porter vertically using reverse. you need to go past the gate to get it into beta

@ZehrAir Жыл бұрын

Reverse, coming over the gate in flight is not approved. Beta starts at idle, in the porter its flat pitch at the stop / gate. I have seen people use reverse in flight and read plenty of accident reports that makes "tame" just fine with me.