"in terms of pure skills, [kennyS] was above everyone" - Reflections with apEX 1/2 (2nd App)

"in terms of pure skills, [kennyS] was above everyone" - Reflections with apEX 1/2 (2nd App) - CSGO

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Күн бұрын

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Dan "apEX" Madesclaire, two time major champion and the in-game leader of Team Vitality, is the star of the 274th Episode of 'Reflections'.
A source player, apEX's big break came in CS:GO. From pulling off upsets with Clan-Mystik and LDLC, apEX established himself as a world class entry player. Joining Titan and later Team EnVyUs his biggest career accomplishment came winning the Dreamhack Cluj-Napoca major with the team as the number one ranked side in the game.
Later years were more fallow but the G2 super-team would win ESL ProLeague S5 Finals and Dreamhack Masters Malmo in 2017. 2018 was a wash, even being benched for an experimental line-up, but forming what became Team Vitality, around prodigy ZywOo, was apEX's ticket back to the top. In 2018 the team won cs_summit 4, ECS S5 and EPICENTER.
Taking over leadership duties as IGL of Vitality, apEX led the team to battle Astralis for the best team of 2020 - the online era. They reached a number of finals before eventually winning IEM Beijing Europe and BLAST Fall. 2021 was rough online but the arrival of LANs later in the year saw Vitality become a top three team and culminated with them winning IEM Winter.
2022 was rough, as the Astralis-infused international Vitality line-up only managed two finals and made no impact on the majors. Gaining Spinx allowed them to win ESL ProLeague S16 but then there were struggles before the team ticked over recently and won IEM Rio, the BLAST Paris major and finished second at BLAST Sring Finals.
In part one, apEX talks about classic French team-mates over the years (shox, NBK and kennyS) and his current players (ZywOo and Spinx), as well as his entry role days and how lazy some of his team-mates were at times.
This interview was recorded on the 29th of May, 2023.
► Time-line of topics discussed:
00:00 Intro and French super-team 2017 G2
03:13 shox
09:43 NBK
17:37 kennyS
26:22 Work ethic and frustration with team-mates
31:33 Hard entry
37:09 Entry mindset
40:39 Weird veto superstition (such as cache vs. C9)
43:38 ZywOo not selfish enough?
50:14 ZywOo's difficulties in prestige tournaments
56:04 Spinx
Part two will be released in the following days.
His first appearance:
• 'Reflections' with apEX
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@semmler3499 Жыл бұрын

Excellent work on this one. Thoughtful questions and answers. Looking forward to part 2!

@andreymaslov9199 Жыл бұрын

Dont get lost pal.We still love you)))

@AstroSully Жыл бұрын

Apex is great player. People read in too much on his ingame "rages". He seems like a true leader and someone that guides the team extremely well outside the server as well.

@joaobrito2653 Жыл бұрын

apex is an amazing guest. very well spoken, gave a lot of insight without throwing teammates under the bus and overall very well spoken. one of the few guests where it never felt like thorin had to try really hard to get him to speak. if anything, he had to try hard to make apex not ramble for too long. amazing episode

@snooples Жыл бұрын

second appearance as well? man this is a yet another great catch and the timing is perfect as well, we've been eating so good lately

@lafarga2330 Жыл бұрын

Truly the content king of esports

@Vogurt Жыл бұрын

No he IS esports. Big difference

@B_Tannen Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah! I’m so excited to see how his responses change across a 6 year period. apEX is a true journeyman.

@zettour. Жыл бұрын

Well, apEx played on LDLC, Titan, ENVY, G2, and Vitality. Pretty much always on French teams with 2-3 cores his whole career. Great player, not necessarily a journeyman like twist.

@romic8427 Жыл бұрын

man thorin youve spoiled me with non stop fire content for literally 40% of my entire lifespan thus far , i dread the day it stops

@tech4172 Жыл бұрын

Loved hearing Apex.. the passion he has and gives for the game is fucking inspiring he deserves it all for the time and effort he puts into this game best of luck

@zenith3803 Жыл бұрын

apEX is a class act. Quality content like always Duncan.

@iamgroot3615 Жыл бұрын

Love this guy. Him and cadian are so passionate about this game. Them two make the scene so much better

@Ollie-uo9rj Жыл бұрын

The mutual respect you can clearly see between you two is really cool

@kluten90 Жыл бұрын

All these interviews you have done over the years are of high quality and are important for the history of cs/esport to live on. The insight into esports that I have gained through these videos I could not get anywhere else. The Reflections series will probably always get views from younger generations who are interested in esports. You are doing important work Duncan. Thank you.

@kentuckser3133 Жыл бұрын

This was really not long enough so much quality content, can’t wait for part 2

@Myggenn Жыл бұрын

Appreciate you letting him talk, so many interesting points and view of CS that no one talks about - what an amazing interview, once again, Thoorin! This one and Jacks interview has been phenomenal, thank you!

@CjSoils Жыл бұрын

Always great to hear from Apex in long form content. So much knowledge of CS history between you two

@luvhcchris Жыл бұрын

Another banger reflections. Great guest! Wow I remember when the first one was posted and I listened to the interview while grinding cs. Not as good anymore now that I’m older but time to get back into cs for cs2. Thanks again man!

@ravensburgerburger3989 Жыл бұрын

Amazing interview with an amazing player to watch over the years

@MrJellyCS Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to feast this food and consume this episode while doing it. Absolute legends, both of you. I always find it funny when people try to make a case about Thorin being irrelevant, but you don't see nobody else landing these kinds of interviews. Have a great summer Duncan, best regards from Finland.

@Romanggwp Жыл бұрын

i remember when people were quitting on him when dupreeh and magisk had just joined, and today we see the absolutely amazing team vitality has grown to become under apex

@Alex_zer0_Shoveller Жыл бұрын

thanks for the great interview thorin, honestly goated content 🐐

@silver1407 Жыл бұрын

when I see a new Thorin upload I think "surely he couldn't have made another good video already" and then it turns to be a banger every time thx for the daily uploads thorin

@de_prod1gy965 Жыл бұрын

Amazing interview. Very interesting!

@yearnrommel711 Жыл бұрын

fantastic interview.

@dask5687 Жыл бұрын

Always love to hear the mindset of a leader.

@Rusty_Justice Жыл бұрын

33:40 same apex, same.

@pinkocean310 Жыл бұрын

why are we getting so much quality content the past month or two?

@raefbsoukar7300 Жыл бұрын

Amazing stuff

@alexkennedy6493 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video, i remember watching the tournaments apex mentioned back in the day and seeing him entry frag and for the era of csgo, apex you had to be in top 3 for your role at the time, i am curious as to how you found the transition from entry fragger to igl and how you went about it, so for me i hope that comes up in the next part. :)

@outplayedmk Жыл бұрын

Love this, makes me like and respect Apex so much more

@6reen6uy Жыл бұрын

I remember the first time he did the 👀🤔, just completely killed me. Love this man

@viziiziv Жыл бұрын

What Apex says at 9:35 is something i realized about myself and other younger csgo players whenever playing with people you could describe as elder players. While for younger players the focus shifts more and more to raw mechanics, older players have a more strategical approach to the game. I feel like a MM-Mode you can solo queue is in part responsible for this difference.

@toddenxd Жыл бұрын

every igl needs to watch this

@14_IQ.points Жыл бұрын

Apex is always great in interviews. He says it like it is.

@Wally4you Жыл бұрын

Thanks ❤

@Sarsour_ Жыл бұрын

Awesome content!

@MusicJunkie37 Жыл бұрын

Great insight

@larz4437 Жыл бұрын

Forget CS, but who in esports is creating quality of this calibre? Amazing work Thorin.

@cristintrifan7608 Жыл бұрын

Just love the fact that Apex knows so much about football

@matthewjones9638 Жыл бұрын

Excellent imterview

@beanburritocs Жыл бұрын

Correction on the description - Vitality won ECS S7, not S5. Also, cs_summit 4, ECS S7, and EPICENTER were all in 2019, not 2018.

@Zarmos Жыл бұрын

this is great. ive got all the respect in the world for apex

@longlive8850 Жыл бұрын

i always stay for buttpounder420

@Cracklingsoul Жыл бұрын

it does seems like apex could be the exact guy zywoo needed on his team nothing but respect

@hundredandonenames Жыл бұрын

"No way, give me that Deagle" Apex is like inverse Zeus.

@daflamethrower441 Жыл бұрын

Criminally low views on this video, fantastic chat

@schmeed0000 Жыл бұрын

in the last interview 6y ago, did they talk about kqly?

@vedser Жыл бұрын

banger

@QenaitheCustodianGuard 9 ай бұрын

Good thing apex vore his safety goggles, you never know what thorin will throw at you.

@Penny7414 Жыл бұрын

Just curious how can we find the HLTV 21-30 list that apEX mentioned at 28:59 ?? I could only find the list of 2022 from HLTV

@ShreN_ Жыл бұрын

Maybe they tweeted who #21 would've been

@dentonkellyjr8095 Жыл бұрын

3:45

@aadesh_kale Жыл бұрын

Nice

@schmeed0000 Жыл бұрын

"we see a lot of kennys in m0nesy" 100% agree, ive always seen the same

@valenting6223 Жыл бұрын

Nice itw!

@mrjackpot6954 Жыл бұрын

20:31 Did I hear that right? :>

@ShreN_ Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@murtazahussain6301 Жыл бұрын

Princess shox mode XD

@DREAMWORKERSKY Жыл бұрын

hope to see France kill it in CS2 as well!

@AstroSully Жыл бұрын

ZywOo wouldn't be as good if he didn't have this "emotionless" state. It's a gift. But also a curse. Same goes for s1mple's undying greed to win and his emotional outbursts. Apples and Oranges. In NBA terms it's like Duncan or Kobe.

@fjejejjrbskjwjw163 Жыл бұрын

Apex

@evolvedHE Жыл бұрын

Still wondering how irrelevant Thorin can get so many banger guests on his show :>

@tanphan1848 Жыл бұрын

I don't think we should confuse his "twitter" persona with his more professional persona. One side makes him infamous and keep his presence, the other makes great contents and connections. The combination of both makes him relevant, and he's nothing without one or the other.

@fanoose Жыл бұрын

@AstroSully Жыл бұрын

@@tanphan1848 True. Also say what you want about Thorin recently but his historical knowledge on CS in almost unmatched. He's built relationship with these players since the beginning. That's why they still have some respect for him. Atleast the ones that he hasn't had twitter beef with lol.

@yougz3610 Жыл бұрын

I'm really a schizo about him. Hate him on twitter but he's very good when he talk about CS in a serious environment with a good guest

@evolvedHE Жыл бұрын

@@yougz3610 Thorin is a legend indeed

@owenkapler7630 Жыл бұрын

I guess Blast Washington showed that Heroic is still Zywoo’s nemesis.

@dsv-banshee52 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t really say so. Vertigo seemed like an extreme off game and his form on vertigo seemed a bit off the last few matches. He played well the last two maps, whereas he would always get shut down in the past.

@Lycosa Жыл бұрын

Ohh yeehh? You and whose army?

@xAntoIRL Жыл бұрын

Apex legend

@juanme555 Жыл бұрын

18:50 kennyS is 10000000% the Ronaldinho of CSGO, he's the real goat, but the newer fans will always downplay his career for having been a long time ago and so "short" , anyone who watched him live in 2014 and 2015 knows he's the goat.

@44r0n-9 Жыл бұрын

R9 is the real GOAT, if we're going off of pure talent