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@jordanbaker8592
@jordanbaker8592 2 жыл бұрын
I find it really interesting that he brings up the sock puppet and add his brilliant "sorry a white sock" dig and also talks about how nobody wants to hear a 20year old talk about how the world works. And this year in 'inside' he turns 30 and includes a song called "how the world works" with a white sock puppet.
@prisonerofcapitalism
@prisonerofcapitalism 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact that the joke, "sorry, it's a white sock" actually *is* a piece of commentary about how the world works.
@K0dakHalfBlack
@K0dakHalfBlack 2 жыл бұрын
Oh shit I never even made this connection, good on you man
@bethsadler3617
@bethsadler3617 2 жыл бұрын
Classic Bo!
@timpwhit
@timpwhit 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just sorry "Socko" had to wait al those years in that "frightening liminal space" for Bo to invent him and feature him in a song.
@joesephkroll2056
@joesephkroll2056 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. It's was obvious from day one of his special socko was hanz teeuwin based. If you spent any time researching bio before the special you would have immediately made the connection. There is also an interview when bo is like 17 and he is wearing a Tim Minchin shirt. That's how I discovered Tim.
@izzzyc
@izzzyc 2 жыл бұрын
a lot of people talk about how the "sloppiness" of his playing is anger because the people around him aren't understanding the point of the song. he usually says "this isn't funny at all" before singing it and he's talking about how he could feed a family of 4 and the audience is laughing and he gets angrier and angrier and starts hitting the keys
@anonymous_0569
@anonymous_0569 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he just seemed like he was getting more and more pissed. Like idk he was just slamming keys and it sounded extremely different from usual. Definitely felt like anger to me.
@itayb8169
@itayb8169 2 жыл бұрын
The Green Room was filled in front of an audience of comedians, mostly stand up. Stand up comedy demands self awareness to work. They must deconstruct reality in a way that others can connect to. Its a form of social intelligence. If there was anyone who would best connect to that song, to understand it, its that room. Even 10 years ago it comedians, including the older ones, were becoming more open about how these need for an audience and applause is almost inherently unhealthy, how ultimately sad it is. You guys are reading this wrong, i assume. He wasnt angry, he was nervous because never before has he played that song for a room full of so many people that will truly understand it.
@TheBeastlySolution
@TheBeastlySolution 2 жыл бұрын
Bo is always talking about how he's a performer and everything he does is ultimately about performing. It makes it difficult to gauge whether he's actually angry or if it's performative
@turtlemine4613
@turtlemine4613 2 жыл бұрын
@@itayb8169 Violently slamming the keys with your entire hands instead of playing chords isn't nervousness. Nor is glaring at the comedians with the line "you selfish asshole" or changing "I" to "we." Even if he isn't getting sloppy because of genuine anger, he's making it very clear that the song is directed at the comedians in the room and that he resents them.
@itayb8169
@itayb8169 2 жыл бұрын
@@turtlemine4613 He was an 18 year old famous on youtube when that didnt mean anything yet, who had just dipped his toe in stand up. Hes having a conversation with 5 men past their 40's, 3 of them having already become massively successful in comedy. We know now that he dealt with severe anxiety through his career. It might of been anger, but it doesnt fit in my eyes.
@itspronouncedlogan4054
@itspronouncedlogan4054 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Ray Romano showed genuine interest when Bo was playing. The cameraman seemed to have noticed it too with one of the close ups; he looked entranced.
@SuffiReax
@SuffiReax 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, I noticed that as well
@AChickandaDuck
@AChickandaDuck 2 жыл бұрын
Ray Romano comes across as such a nice guy
@godzillaeyes
@godzillaeyes 2 жыл бұрын
When this aired it literally changed my life. I knew who they all were EXCEPT Bo, but I watched it because I was a huge Marc Maron fan. When Bo played the song it completely blew me away.
@abic8023
@abic8023 2 жыл бұрын
The premise of this show is that these are all comedians who are performing at the same comedy festival, all waiting backstage for their turn to go on. With that in mind, it makes more sense why they don't want to get into deeper topics, and why they are all so quick to jump on any available jokes. Each of them is full of adrenaline right now, trying to stay in the right headspace for them to go on stage, sometimes in a matter of minutes after the taping. If you're looking for more of an in-depth interview featuring Bo, he went on Marc Maron's podcast not too long after this was filmed and they had a really good conversation about all sorts of things, including Bo's anxiety issues.
@SuffiReax
@SuffiReax 2 жыл бұрын
That makes A LOT more sense and brings much needed context to the scenario. No one else had mentioned that. Thank you
@abic8023
@abic8023 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuffiReax Of course! Personally, I think the host made an error in trying to touch on so many topics. If he had just picked one thing to talk about, they could have managed a short, interesting conversation, instead of jumping all over the place and not giving anyone enough time to dig into a particular topic.
@vinikamatv2309
@vinikamatv2309 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuffiReax it's called the green room.. it didn't take a lot of investigation.
@ira__s
@ira__s Жыл бұрын
I've seen the performance before but just realized that when he usually sings "because I wanted my name in lights--" in here he actually says "because WE wanted--", and I just love it so much. Bo was really not hiding that he was talking about them as a collective and not just an individual.
@Ashley-iu9uh
@Ashley-iu9uh 2 жыл бұрын
When he looked at the comedians while singing “selfish a**holes” 😂😂😂
@llamaman8888
@llamaman8888 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Marc Maron, but Bo's, "Alright, it was a WHITE sock," is the purest comedy I have ever heard.
@AChickandaDuck
@AChickandaDuck 8 ай бұрын
I think that’s when he won Marc over 😂
@MeganTheLibrarian3
@MeganTheLibrarian3 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with what you said about the difference between their generation and Bo's (ours). As soon as it starts to get deep, they insert a joke. But our generation WANTS things to get deep. I also hate how the one deep thing that the moderator wants to talk about is Gerry's Buddhism, when he clearly doesn't want to talk about it. But whenever Bo starts to talk about meaningful things they sort of interrupt him and move on. If you haven't yet, definitely listen to Bo's episode on the WTF podcast, which was after this with one of the guys from this episode. It was way better than this!
@vinikamatv2309
@vinikamatv2309 2 жыл бұрын
This whole.show was for comedians to sit around and be funny...
@joecrandle4969
@joecrandle4969 2 жыл бұрын
My god your generation is sensitive. Its comedy
@limey7046
@limey7046 2 жыл бұрын
@@joecrandle4969 "Your generation is sensitive" "it's comedy" "take a joke" . The older generation is a fucking broken record with how much they repeat the same half-assed opinions and arguments they have
@ghostface490
@ghostface490 2 жыл бұрын
​@@joecrandle4969 not all of us are sensitive, the only people of our generation that are actually worth a damn are people that were born prior to 2006.
@ReallyUnexplainable
@ReallyUnexplainable Жыл бұрын
Our generation does not want to get deep.. you want a debate, go on twitch. This show is for light hearted conversation and joking around. These are all comedians, have been for decades.. what's there to discuss about something like "Bo's song"? They all know that what he is saying is true. Comedians are attention seeking hoes who get paid for indulging in their habit. They all know it. Deeping it would ruin the light texture of the show. Again, it's not a debate.
@MrSquare
@MrSquare 2 жыл бұрын
Alright, to everyone saying that "comedians can never have deep conversations and they're just competing for funniest comment", please consider the setting. This is a TV show which has been edited down from a longer recording, where these comedians are in front of a live audience with the expectation of 'funny quippy comedian talk". Of course they're going to be competitive and trying to just get the last word rather than having introspective conversations. It's basically the set of a panel show. If you had these same people in Schandlings house drinking beer on their own with no cameras or live audience I think there would absolutely be more conversation about these topics and less constant attempts at quips, jeez Do you ever think that maybe you have an image of comedians always in a defensive, performative mode because the only time you ever see comedians is when they are in a performance? This show is a performance, regardless of how they try to make it look; they're not simply just talking shop
@Yohoat
@Yohoat 2 жыл бұрын
I think the criticism is valid since a lot of the quips are average, which makes the whole show average. I think the introspection and self reflection, paired with anecdotes and sharing experiences could've been a more interesting focus. Obviously it's not the point of the show, but it could've been and I feel that it'd be more valuable if they let that take center stage.
@Maxwellish
@Maxwellish 2 жыл бұрын
one thing i noticed during this performance first time i saw it was that everytime the crowd started laughing he slammed more on the keys, like that wasn’t the response he wanted ya know? pretty neat, definitely seemed on purpose. Bo also changed some of the lyrics from “i” to “we” “cause we wanted our name in lights, when we could’ve fed a family of four” and so on, he definitely was speaking to every comedian there not just himself. another thing the other comics seemed quite uncomfortable during the performance which might be why they didn’t discuss it.
@mandalaygray6917
@mandalaygray6917 2 жыл бұрын
I love Bo and Ray. It seems like 99% of this discussion was a power trip of the other guys going back and forth trying to top each other with the funniest comment. I'd love to see their reactions to Bo's recent stuff.
@kkenjiito
@kkenjiito 2 жыл бұрын
Thats mostly how comedians act with each other. Most comedians feel like they have to be the funniest one in the room but its not really intentional or done with bad intentions. If this were a interview type of show they mightve talked about the song and his stuff, but with all of them as comedians, unlikely.
@joecrandle4969
@joecrandle4969 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what comedians do when they get together. There was no power trip. Before everyone got so emotional and sensitive this was how guys talked in general and comedians specifically. Bo knows this. 🙄
@dom4372
@dom4372 2 жыл бұрын
when he sang art is dead he changed it from "i wanted my name in lights" to "we wanted our name in lights" as well as slamming the keys in frustration in response to the comedians laughing also im not sure but i think he was having a panic attack during that performance, and yes that look was intentional to directly target the other comedians and call them out.
@BryceLK
@BryceLK 2 жыл бұрын
🙄
@wantutosigh1117
@wantutosigh1117 2 жыл бұрын
What a pathetic OP.
@kullisto1
@kullisto1 2 жыл бұрын
super over analyzation, Bo is brilliant but i dont think those nuances mean what you think they do
@mr.stuffdoer8483
@mr.stuffdoer8483 3 ай бұрын
@@kullisto1…no it very clearly was a nervous, angry performance. He normally is much more controlled in his performances, but especially after the “fed a family of four” people laughed, and he fucking slammed the keys. That is not a funny line.
@elinag3226
@elinag3226 Жыл бұрын
One thing I love in this performance of art is dead is that in the original song the lyric is “I wanted my name in lights” but here he changes it to “we wanted our names in lights” to purposely bring them into it and be like this isn’t just about me now this is all of us
@JoelWende
@JoelWende 2 жыл бұрын
I think what you’ve seen here is just what happens when you get a bunch of comedians together in a room. They will always try to outdo each other. I’ve seen it so many times on and off camera. It’s worth checking out Marc Maron’s WTF podcast. He has interview everyone you can think of, including Obama. It’s all introspection!
@mayawoflax2488
@mayawoflax2488 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely listen to Bo's appearances on WTF- especially the second one he talks about his relationship with Gary Shandling after this show
@Kate98755
@Kate98755 Жыл бұрын
I’m 66, it’s not always a generational thing, it’s a personality thing. They’re either protecting themselves by diverting, or they’re extroverts who don’t want to sort…that’s why Garry Shandling started to say…if you’re going to be sorting this stuff out because he could see some were not willing to even look at it.
@phreedumb9671
@phreedumb9671 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this a while back and my only thought BO delivered in every way. Watching it again with you now (because I really enjoy your reactions), I align with you completely. Bo nailed his jokes, his comments, reactions, and his performance, and they glazed over it while circle-jerking themselves and not allowing him to expand on any of his answers. What a missed opportunity for them to actually experience what Bo had to offer. Regardless, Bo went on to conquer, arguably quicker and more powerfully than they could ever dream of at his age, but I digress.
@nickabel8279
@nickabel8279 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't think anyone wants to hear a 20 year old tell them how the world works". 2021 - bo releases, "how the world works". Interesting.....
@mjgray192
@mjgray192 2 жыл бұрын
Well in 2021, he's not 20, he's 30 so it's fine
@MrDavecdva
@MrDavecdva 2 жыл бұрын
For Marc Maron, I think the inability to show emotion was only because of the situation; being filmed, on a show, with an audience including peers he wants to be accepted by. In his podcast, a 2 hour completely authentic discussion is the norm, not the exception. Very worth a listen.
@eternallymortal1929
@eternallymortal1929 2 жыл бұрын
So, after the clip of Romano talking about the feeling of being an imposter, every single one of those comedy veterans immediately agreed with the sentiment. Which means, that every time one of those comics are performing, they are playing that confident, funny character. Every single one of them feels like an imposter and if the conversation gets too deep, it might reveal what they feel like they have to hide. The specifics of why each of them think they shouldn't be famous. That feeling of, "I hope all these people don't find out that I'm just an asshole." And they're all witty enough, and know their audience enough to redirect the conversation. It's almost a natural human instinct, combined with experience and talent. I would have loved if they had gotten deeper, but the world is just now shifting towards authenticity. It'll take time.
@godzillaeyes
@godzillaeyes 2 жыл бұрын
Marc Maron’s podcast is all about those deep conversations and real emotions. Bo has been on there once or twice and it’s on KZfaq (audio only). What you said about audiences only being there for what you can provide them, I think Bo really leans into that. His comments about ‘if I stop entertaining you, kick me to the curb. I’m in the service industry’
@mikemath9508
@mikemath9508 2 жыл бұрын
Bo has tremendous honesty in even showing up there. The confidence to even speak up, and sit quiet. Then he schools the comics that haven't had to do anything for twenty years.
@nickabel8279
@nickabel8279 2 жыл бұрын
What's rays history with bo? Felt like he was looking out for him with the conversation. Then his reaction to Bo playing...
@SuffiReax
@SuffiReax 2 жыл бұрын
I felt the same
@holdencaulfield8429
@holdencaulfield8429 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this back in the day, Only Shandling met Burnhams gaze and spoke to him as an equal, the rest of the old hacks just fell back on that lame Friars Club bullshit.
@bigguyguard
@bigguyguard 2 жыл бұрын
Bo talked later about how he felt like the whole thing was just them trying to one up each other with jokes. Constantly cutting each other off or racing to the obvious joke.
@bulletfastspeed
@bulletfastspeed 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, trust me, all the comedians got it. Don't feel bad for Bo. They are all hardworking. And they are smarter than it appears. It's not the deepest song ever lol, pretty basic points (even tho I very much dig the song and love Bo). They also realize the type of show this is and don't want to turn it into a bummer/non comedic type thing. They are all aware of all the points he made in Art is Dead, and laugh at how witty it is, not because it is inherently funny (same reason people laugh at George Carlin, even though most of what he did was about serious topics), and continued to keep the show light by interjecting jokes after his song lol.
@alltogetherfitandproper4252
@alltogetherfitandproper4252 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. They invited him for a reason. They admire him and treat him as they all treat eachother. I don’t get anyone feeling defensive on Bo’s behalf.
@haydencourtney7419
@haydencourtney7419 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the case example is Maron, who gets it so much he pretends to not care to make the joke better. And Ray who just genuinely laughs.
@zoedujour
@zoedujour 2 жыл бұрын
They may have been hardworking, but being an ignorant, pushy, tone deaf jackass should be called out.
@varun5231
@varun5231 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder why they requested this song particularly, it doesn't go with the whole vibe
@BryceLK
@BryceLK 2 жыл бұрын
This is a strange overlap that's not entirely unique to Bo Burnham, but there's definitely a Venn diagram with typical, live stand-up comedy on one side, and a certain *n* type of entertainer on the other. I'd put Bo in the middle with others like maybe Jeremiah Watkins, Pete Holmes, and maybe to an extent Nate Bargatze? They're very funny and they can hang with the best of them, but their values (? Probably a better word here,) aren't identical to the stereotypical, old-head comic. They're sweet boys, lol. I also think that due to the way Bo has grown his audience and become popular, mostly online, rather than the typical way of grinding out open mics, his biggest fans aren't the same people who are buying tickets at comedy clubs and sitting in this audience and understand this type of humor and interaction. When I watch this, I know that Marc Maron has a persona, and I've listened to their one-on-one conversation on Maron's WTF podcast, which is more for the two of them to get to know each other, not for an audience of comedy fans. These people paid for babysitters and coordinated schedules and commuted to a club so they could see these famous comedians bust balls and crack-wise as if they were BS-ing backstage in a green room. In this environment, Bo is the new kid in town by contrast, only because the others have been going for 10+ years, which in comedy is often times the entry point, or when many comedians feel they finally begin to find their voice. They are giving him a hard time because they recognize that he's earned his place and that he can take it as well as give it back. If they didn't respect him, they'd ignore him completely, and that wouldn't be funny at all. It would be a dull show, a slam on Bo, and overall, just a bummer to sit through, honestly. In all, if they didn't know who he was before this taping, they did after. And if you haven't listened to the episode of Bo on WTF with Maron, I really recommend it.
@Malkor
@Malkor 2 жыл бұрын
I think the point they are making about being himself on stage is more the fact, he has such a natural ability to act out and perform his shows and songs and since that is also what Bo enjoys doing he is in the end being himself. or at least my interpretation
@Alicia-gd6hx
@Alicia-gd6hx 2 жыл бұрын
So Garry Shandling, the comedian who you said seemed right up Bo's alley, actually became a mentor to Bo after filming this. Bo talks about going over to his house and having long talks with him before he passed in 2016 (discusses this on the H3 podcast and his 2018 appearance on Maron's podcast). So you're correct, and I hope his guidance made Bo more at peace with his place in the industry.
@richarddweckcomedy
@richarddweckcomedy 2 жыл бұрын
Gary shandling is one of my biggest influences as a comedian . RIP, so cool he appreciated Bo
@Debrutsideno
@Debrutsideno 2 жыл бұрын
“This guy” is Garry Shandling. He is a legendary comedian and writer. He passed away in 2016. I believe the guy to Shandling’s left is judd apatow. Director of 40 year old virgin, Knocked up and produced movies like Pineapple Express and anchorman among many other titles.
@PatrickHogan
@PatrickHogan 2 жыл бұрын
Anchorman is Adam McKay.
@JIPunisherIL
@JIPunisherIL 2 жыл бұрын
@@PatrickHogan Adam McKay directed Anchorman, Debrutsid said Apatow produced it, which is correct.
@PatrickHogan
@PatrickHogan 2 жыл бұрын
@@JIPunisherIL He definitely edited it to say that. Haha.
@JIPunisherIL
@JIPunisherIL 2 жыл бұрын
@@PatrickHogan Ah, missed the "(edited)" part, my bad!
@JoshuaFletcher
@JoshuaFletcher 2 жыл бұрын
To me, I have a suspicion that the other comics were watching someone do something truly incredible that they could rightfully gauge. Likely some amazement, likely some "well, put in another 30 years kid" and definitely some sense of comparison.
@casmatt99
@casmatt99 2 жыл бұрын
I think this show did a great job demonstrating just how head and shoulders above his peers Bo is on an intellectual level. Traditionally, comedians haven't had to be super intelligent or educated to succeed in the industry, it was very much a boys club that rewards guys who can tell the most outrageous, unbelievable stories and pass them off as truth. Bo has elevated the form to a different level with his comedy, to the extent that it should be considered a work of art. His command of music, rap and on-stage performance makes it more similar to a Broadway show than a stand up comedy show.
@richarddweckcomedy
@richarddweckcomedy 2 жыл бұрын
Bo still loves stand up comedy . There’s been great intellectualism in stand up with Bo, Bill Hicks , Carlin .a lot
@bethsadler3617
@bethsadler3617 2 жыл бұрын
That guy with the solid comeback was Gary Shandling. He and Bo became friends, and stayed friends until Gary died. Bo really held his own and impressed the fuck out of them all, in the end. Marc Maron (the guy who didn't like the black sock) is actually one of the first Podcasters (WTF with Marc Maron) and had Bo on his podcast right after this was aired. You hear how aggro he plays those keys, bc he KNOWS he is digging at Every One of them with that song, and that song went over many heads there, but made fans too. Paul gave Bo a chance to showcase what he does in a room literally filled with comics (and Ron Jeremy) and that was good of him to do so. It is an ensemble format staffed with comics. A toxic mix, ego wise, usually, but this show generally handled it well, as did Bo, nerves, anger, and all. And what a great learning experience for him, to hear that all those fears never go away, and comedy was how they dealt with it too. I love how the young comic being there inspired them to bring up their own origin stories. This is one of my favorite in/reviews bc I DO know who these guys are, and they were legends in their day, and Bo went toe to toe with them all, and held his own. He made fans of a few of those guys that day.
@chocoholicallemand9096
@chocoholicallemand9096 2 жыл бұрын
The covering emotions is generational for sure. I was raised by very traditional parents in the 70's-80's and wasn't allowed to show emotions. Mental health isn't a thing to them.
@catloowitlatkla6116
@catloowitlatkla6116 2 жыл бұрын
That's so true. Despite some glaring red flags it never occurred to my parents that I had problems. Even after being diagnosed as an adult (bipolar with severe anxiety, plus other problems) it was hard for them to understand, and I have been so used to hiding everything that when it does slip through it's still surprising to my family. My mom actually had to as my fiance whether I acted like that before...he was laughing when he told me about it because, as he told her, it was pretty standard. One phrase from my childhood that I can still hear is, "If you are going to cry go do it in your room where nobody has to hear you." I spent a lot of time in my room.
@chocoholicallemand9096
@chocoholicallemand9096 2 жыл бұрын
@@catloowitlatkla6116 Sadly, same here, guess who's in therapy? Hugs to you!
@catloowitlatkla6116
@catloowitlatkla6116 2 жыл бұрын
@@chocoholicallemand9096 Hugs to you too! 😊 Thanks
@Kate98755
@Kate98755 Жыл бұрын
After the song when they ignored it, they proved Bo’s point! They had to avoid that discussion!
@muttocycle
@muttocycle 2 жыл бұрын
They're all comedians. This is how they communicate
@DocWattson
@DocWattson 2 жыл бұрын
Right after this episode Marc Maron had Bo Burnham on his podcast. They talked about this episode and more. Highly recommend it.
@glygriffe
@glygriffe 2 жыл бұрын
My interpretation of the "sloppiness" of the piano part is that he was feeling awkward to be playing this particular piece in this particular setting. So he try to add a layer of physical comedy to be more in tune with the mood. I do think the "something was getting to him" (22:25) and it might also be a way of hiding himself. Call it nerves or something else. I was more thinking of feeling like a fraud or maybe just feeling out of place. But mostly, I think that the subscribers to Suffi Reax are not the target audience for this particular show. So not many of us will be entirely satified by the content provided by the clip of the Green Room.
@RemedialRob
@RemedialRob 2 жыл бұрын
Garry Shandling actually passed away shortly after this was taped (he was obviously very sick here because he's super bloated compared to how he usually looked). That said yeah you're too young for most if these guys. But they also were very respectful to Bo as you may not know them but most if these guys were the kings of comedy through the 80's and 90's. In fact Marc Maron had Bo on his very popular podcast "WTF" which again you may not have heard of but is extremely popular and they talked a lot more in depth about comedy and what they thought of each other. In addition Ray Ramano had a lot to do with Bo being cast in the movie "The Big Sick." I think Bo may have felt a little overwhelmed because you may not know who these guys are but Bo definitely did. You know how famous Ray Ramano is but there was a time when Garry Shandling was one of the biggest stars in the world and two of his sitcoms are credited by Jerry Seinfeld as the forerunners to the massive TV show "Seinfeld" because Garry Shandling was really one if the first to ever do a "show about nothing." Garry, Paul Provenza, and Marc Maron had huge stand up careers. Judd Apatow us really more of a comedy writer now but if you search him on IMDB I'll bet you'll be surprised by how many extremely funny and popular movies he's written and directed. By comparison when Bo was 20 as he said he was on this show he hadn't really done much more than his KZfaq stuff and his first special was literally called "Comedy Central Presents: Bo Burmham in 2009 when Bo was 19 and then he collected "Words, Words, a lot if material from that short special and his KZfaq stuff and released it as his first hour long special with some new material: "Words, Words, Words" in 2010. So at most these guys might have seen Words, Words, Words but it's more likely that all they've seen if his work is the Comedy Central special and maybe some of his KZfaq stuff. And yet they are not only respectful in allowing him in on the give and take comedians do but it's really obvious to me in watching this that they not only recognize Bo's innate genius but their also impressed with what he's already accomplished and excited to see where he goes. Probably the only one who comes off as a little jealous is Marc Maron and they actually talk about that when he has Bo on his podcast. But I think it's important to remember that when this was filmed Bo really hadn't done very much and everyone else at the table had been slogging away at comedy clubs and on TV shows for over 30 years.
@charlie53echo
@charlie53echo 2 жыл бұрын
This...all of this. Great points, I hope everyone who doesn't know everyone at the table takes a moment to find out who they are and why they matter to comedy.
@MarkLangdahl
@MarkLangdahl 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't that short of a while from this show to Garry Shandling passing. The show was recorded 5 years before Garry Shandling passed away.
@TracyKelton
@TracyKelton Жыл бұрын
Notice how he says "we" wanted our name in lights, when the original says "I". He was definitely including them in the jab
@grayskindablue
@grayskindablue Жыл бұрын
Bo changing “I” to “we” for so many of the lyrics was absolutely brilliant, and so subtle (at least for that audience.) “Because *we* wanted our name in lights, when *we* could have fed a family of four for forty fuckiתg fortnights.” This is such a ridiculously frustrating setting lol. Checks out that these geniuses making insane “lemme compare my wife to grilled cheese” quips and unable to sit with any genuine emotion for over three seconds would be the same guys everyone’s grandpa is reminiscing over. Whining about “when comedy was good and you were allowed to make jokes!” I mean, look at Bo. He’s wildly successful and says unhinged things constantly… he has for over a decade. But they work. They work because they’re the setup, not the punchline.
@Radi0actvChickn
@Radi0actvChickn 2 жыл бұрын
I agree completely with your take, and I think Bo kinda echoed some of those sentiments in an interview. Somebody asked him about his experience in The Green Room, and he said he felt a bit frustrated with how a good conversation would constantly be interrupted by one of the other guys butting in with a joke, then the whole thing would derail. They really touched on a lot of interesting topics, but as soon as someone would make a joke, it's like everyone would forget what was happening and start fighting to be the funniest guy in the room. Yeah. I feel bad for Bo. I would love to see a conversation between just him and that Buddhist dude, maybe even Ray Romono as well, because I think they gave the best insights into comedy and performing. Great video btw
@thomas-w8948
@thomas-w8948 2 жыл бұрын
Man isn't realizing how hillarous is that they glossed over a clear moment to get deep after Bo's song. The "i thought it was cute" joke spells it out. They all acknowledged his point and intent and understood it. BUT adding to it as if they have something deep to say about it in a funny way, is in itself the selfsentering behavior archetipical of the comedian that's being called out. Prasing him was the most respectfull move. Adding to it would be missing the point.
@justinkeith5489
@justinkeith5489 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day its a comedy show. That is why they gloss over things and comedians don't hardly give credit to each other. Bo knows these guys and was working the clubs at this point. They get the song, and they thinks its good and funny. They just aren't going to drool over any other comic. But the main point is that its a comedy show full of comedians. they are hardly ever capable of having a deep conversation with the cameras on in a group like that lol.
@Akrymir
@Akrymir 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much that song applied to this entire show (beyond the obvious connection to comics/entertainers)... ironically or unironically, depending on the perspective.
@Maple837
@Maple837 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 36K 🥳🎉. Well deserved.. I can remember when I first subbed with you , you was at 1K...!!
@SuffiReax
@SuffiReax 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kim! Crazy to think back on when it all started
@Maple837
@Maple837 2 жыл бұрын
Danny.. Thank you !! Really... I hope as only trying to say she nice 🙂
@tommyanimation431
@tommyanimation431 11 ай бұрын
18:01 when i listen to this song i want to cry. Perhaps because it is very vital and I take the text seriously. I don't understand how people can laugh at this song
@boydudeman
@boydudeman 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how you were talking about how they weren't going into the deep conversations because Bo was actually talking about that on the H3H3 podcast. He was saying how they were more into doing quick jabs and jokes at each other instead of going into conversations about stuff, and Bo wasn't really into that.
@nomad1620
@nomad1620 Жыл бұрын
There's a different connection between artists, comedians especially. They take jabs at each other constantly, out of love and respect for one another. The jabs they take at each other constantly for various reasons. Some are to help you grow a thick skin to be able to tolerate the audience. Some to show respect for the jabs they felt from your words. Comedians and musicians hold a very special relationship with each other. Almost like a sibling relationship... "I can make fun of and beat up my brother, but I do it from love. I better not catch someone else doing it to them."
@AChickandaDuck
@AChickandaDuck 2 жыл бұрын
“No one wants to hear a 20 year old get up on stage and tell them how the world works.” But at 30 we do! 😂
@bengarbutt4700
@bengarbutt4700 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this video, honestly. Thanks for another great video Suffi!!!
@curtisholsinger6023
@curtisholsinger6023 2 жыл бұрын
Almost every comment you made seems to be the general consensus. They talk over each other; Bo's song is an indictment of the same comedians he's sitting with; the audience had a really weird reaction to his song; they are competing with each other; as soon as a bit of a deeper point appears, they 'quip' it away; etc. Well put, all of those. The only thing I would say that might differ from your take is this: Bo has enough mastery over his talents, even during panic attacks, that his 'sloppy' play had to have been deliberate. I personally feel that it was the BEST representation of 'Art is Dead.' Bo's discordant playing is his frustration over how even THAT condemnation of the comedic ego is getting lauded and taken as a joke. In other stage performances, he is more polished and professional, but HERE, amongst his peers, he is letting his rage show. It was seemingly one of the few things that Marc Marin actually picked up on (Marin seemed uncommonly dense in this special, never really understood why). Romano got the point during the song and chose to keep it light-hearted, but Marin showed some interest in getting to the heart of Bo's anger.
@Serryy
@Serryy 2 жыл бұрын
Bo looking over to these comedians isnt an intentional criticism. Hes performing for them specifically and hes nervous. You never look at someone to see their reaction to your work?
@virkspider
@virkspider 2 жыл бұрын
i really agreed with you on that they don't let each other speak or when an interesting deep topic comes up, they instantly change it or make a quick joke about it. like, they are all comics, who esentially joke about everything, they use comedy obviously as a coping mechanism.. cause they're comics. so it makes sense. as soon as they got uncomfy they quickly made a joke about it. idk. its interesting. and also kinda sad, cause i also wanted to really dive into it and hear their perspective on everything, especially Bo's song.
@Tragz
@Tragz 2 жыл бұрын
That song didnt go over their heads. The song is very straight forward and that concept has been discussed by comedians long before Bo wrote a song about it. These guys are legend comedians with knowledge of the art form that goes deeper than you will ever understand. These guys all love Bo. You're making assumption about these guys who you know nothing about. Also you keep saying that Bo's comedy is going over their head but 99% of what they're saying is going over YOUR head.
@AChickandaDuck
@AChickandaDuck 2 жыл бұрын
Also - Marc Maron definitely did not like Bo in this interview. But he later got to know him better, did a series of interviews with him and now they’re good friends.
@whocaresreallly5886
@whocaresreallly5886 2 жыл бұрын
We know that Bo suffers from anxiety and being on stage is vastly different from being surrounded by people because on the stage you know where the crowd is and there is a distance that can feel like a cushion
@bradtorville5526
@bradtorville5526 2 жыл бұрын
When you get a bunch of comics together, you're not going to get very introspective discussions out of them. They're competitive as hell and all they're going to be doing is trying to out perform each other for the biggest laugh. That's it. Period.
@LongXue
@LongXue 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized something... Bo changed "I" to "we"... damn, he's really targeting them.
@newnamewhodis7534
@newnamewhodis7534 2 жыл бұрын
I know the tendency is to think the older comedians didn’t get Bo’s points in Art is Dead because they didn’t do a deep dive, but I guarantee that they did. If you think they don’t understand introspection, read more about Garry Shandling and Marc Maron and it might change your perspective on this interview
@jamisonking3613
@jamisonking3613 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you checking this out. I've never seen this entire special. I do have to ask what, exactly do you think "cancel culture" is? Examples please.
@dropoffstergaming
@dropoffstergaming 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Garry Shandling actually befriended Bo after this and up until he died.
@zachm2331
@zachm2331 2 жыл бұрын
Garry Shandling, probably one of the best comedians in the history of comedy. He passed a while back. But definitely look him up.
@AP-gb3eh
@AP-gb3eh 2 ай бұрын
Bo was invited to be among industry leaders of comedy because they respect him. Even a lot of the audience were comedians, they are all intelligent interested people who are discussing their craft. Your agism is showing.There is a finite amount of time and they are all (exception Bo) competitive stand up,then writers who came up on the road and no each other well.
@adamjcohn
@adamjcohn 2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids. Just wanted to say when he was talking about Eastern philosophy “it encourages authenticity”, and he was saying how his (Bo’s) material is toward Bo’s type of comedy. I know both Bo and Gary well abs Gary Shandling LOVES Bo during this video and in general and he knows him and Bo are on a different level of understanding.
@TitanSummers
@TitanSummers Жыл бұрын
How little they knew at the time. Just think how damaged Bo really was then. I wonder what they think now that Bo has shared what he was going through.
@Kate98755
@Kate98755 Жыл бұрын
That was Garry Shandling, legend….he’s intently listening to Bo, he was very philosophical. Later he and Bo became friends, Garry understood Bo had important things to say. Garry was never a loud pushy comic, but not close to as talented as Bo….and Garry could see it.
@jonstephenson9660
@jonstephenson9660 Жыл бұрын
Actually the reason they actively avoid delving into things is because this is a single episode of a 30 minute comedy show. They have to keep the jokes going to keep the show going. They can’t stop to seriously dig into a single topic because the comedy would stop and show would still run out of time before they actually got anywhere. I agree this could’ve made for a great set up to an hour or two long documentary about philosophy in comedy, but that isn’t what this show is.
@andrew348
@andrew348 2 жыл бұрын
This guy so desperately wants this to be a group session. He struggles to laugh.
@ramadiii
@ramadiii 5 ай бұрын
It's so funny how the only two guys, aside from Bo, I know besides Ray Romano is because one of them was in Marvel movies as a Hydra politician, and the other had a guest role in a show called Roadies.
@bcal129
@bcal129 Жыл бұрын
also keep in mind this event is over an hour in length, they couldve talked about art is dead but it was cut from air because it wasnt punchline after punchline
@zararobnett8284
@zararobnett8284 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine these guys watching “inside” and their heads exploding. Especially the host guy who seemed to already pick up on what bo was about YEARS before most of us truly got it
@j0nt
@j0nt Жыл бұрын
I don't think it goes over their heads. I think it's uncomfortable and there's a dark humor to it, so they talk about it in terms of comedy even though it's quite serious. Someone mentioned how Ray Romano seemed genuinely into it, but I think Marc Maron did, too. I think they all understood and were interested.
@joescott778
@joescott778 Жыл бұрын
Gary Shandling is a legend.
@Riflery
@Riflery 2 жыл бұрын
I think it partially comes down to a lack of respect with cutting off Bo so much. They cut each other off aswell, but not nearly as much. For example, Garry was hardly cut off at as, as he is the oldest and most experienced. So has the most respect. Their comedy is very simple and 2D. It's intro joke, laugh, joke, laugh, end joke. There is no real density to it. Whereas with Bo's comedy every word has layers to it, and it's not just jokes, but it's also social commentary. Similar to George Carlin. And their generation grew up Essentially being taught that being introspective and honest with your emotions isn't manly, and you shouldn't do it. Instead cover up your own insecurity with comedy
@CheckersMcGavern
@CheckersMcGavern 2 жыл бұрын
You have to remember... this was a "show" on television. There are a lot of camera cuts and I'm willing to bet a lot of the deep conversational stuff got cut out in order to fit a specific time length.
@sardsvib
@sardsvib 2 жыл бұрын
Pay attention to the way Bo preforms Art Is Dead, he's hurting, sad, he feels betrayed. And most of all, he is *furious* that everyone is so detached. The way he gets "sloppier" through the song, and most of all, when the audience laughs at the family literally starving, he *slams* the keys. He's *ANGRY* that no one gets it.
@stinkiestsmelliest
@stinkiestsmelliest 2 жыл бұрын
I'd never seen the full clip, only Bo's performance, and it genuinely upset me how they just trampled over him. It feels like everyone felt like they were above him except for Ray. So many lost conversations because of people trying to one up each other in comedy like a competition :(
@willowbeederouaux4750
@willowbeederouaux4750 2 жыл бұрын
Respect is earned, especially in the comedy world. No gold stars just for participating. It was an honor for a young person like Bo to even be invited to sit among these veterans of comedy, and no doubt he knew that. He earned much respect for this episode, I'm sure.
@stinkiestsmelliest
@stinkiestsmelliest 2 жыл бұрын
@@willowbeederouaux4750 I understand that kind of hierarchy is normal in comedy, and especially with classic stand up, but it still feels wrong the way they treated him. It might've been unintentional on their part but Bo definitely seemed very uncomfortable.
@ReallyUnexplainable
@ReallyUnexplainable Жыл бұрын
@@stinkiestsmelliest This show isn't a deep conversation. It's light hearted, and is supposed to entertain people. What Bo said in his performance is an old topic for them. There's been a thousand comics who have claimed comedians are attention seeking whores. It's not new, it's old, and nobody wants to bring down the mood by going into an introspective debate. Bo included, that's why he didn't push the topic after the performance.
@ThisisStephennn
@ThisisStephennn 2 жыл бұрын
This was great to watch with you
@robscrivens4805
@robscrivens4805 Жыл бұрын
Your issue with the back and forth and interrupting is the entire first verse of “Art is dead.” “(They’ve) been rewarded for never maturing for never understanding or learning…”
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock Жыл бұрын
I think something that's worth noting, there's no way the request to do Art is Dead was spontaneous. you have to understand the five on the couch aren't the only entertainers in that room, literally everyone in the audience is a comic. It was a song hand picked for that audience and Bo even changes the lyrics at some points to say we instead of I. Comedians *should* be aware that what they are doing is kind of inherently absurd, they can connect with Art is Dead in a way a normal audience just can't. And you see it on Ray Romano's face too.
@bradtorville5526
@bradtorville5526 2 жыл бұрын
Bo really is a fish out of water in this group. He's of the wrong generation, clearly just included to draw in a younger audience than the rest of the panel would have and to bolster up their viewing numbers. But he really shouldn't have been a part of it at all. The bulk of the show reflects on each of the comedians' past careers and Bo is 20 years old here. Sure, he can reflect back on his mid teens when he first started but most of the rest of the panel would not have bothered with him back then and probably is unfamiliar with most of his routines and songs from back then.
@Spartansareawesome11
@Spartansareawesome11 2 жыл бұрын
Something to know about comics, but many of them are very damaged people. Something else but related, it seems the older ones are just tired of dealing with the meta question Bo is because he is younger, and when he brings it up, they just act like they are exhausted and done with it
@caitlin329
@caitlin329 2 жыл бұрын
The whole thing is a performance; I think people need to remember that. He does want it to be applauded. He was playing more aggressively because that's the mood of the song, and he was making it a more intense performance because it's his one shot to impress them. The song isn't actually *that* heavy on content to discuss, especially on a show like this. I think people do forget how both stand up comedy and television work, and read into it in the 'wrong' way.
@Unknown-Dysphoria
@Unknown-Dysphoria Жыл бұрын
didnt realize till now, but he changed the lyrics from his original art is death in the "i wanted my name in lights" to "we wanted our names in lights", crazy detail
@tiffany.Elizabeth.
@tiffany.Elizabeth. 2 жыл бұрын
They won’t let each other talk because comedy steams from suppressing grief / sadness lol. That’s why. It’s a natural response
@bradtorville5526
@bradtorville5526 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best jokes I ever heard Garry Shandling say was when he was a host on the Oscars I believe, can't recall the year, but to put it in context, it was around the time when Viagra first hit the market. Anyway, the tag line from the Viagra commercials at the time was "If you have an erection lasting more than 4 hours, contact your doctor." Shandling's line was "If I have an erection lasting longer than 4 hours, I'm calling everybody I know!"
@Alyzvettema
@Alyzvettema 2 жыл бұрын
How hard was this to do this song for him with his anxiety and this song being directed basically at everyone in that room
@thomasdendtler4077
@thomasdendtler4077 2 жыл бұрын
There's been some really good Green Room conversations. You should really check out the episode with Eddie Izzard, Tim Minchin and Jimmy Carr. Its really good
@RumorUnknown
@RumorUnknown 2 жыл бұрын
Bo is a very anti-social person for the most part, so most of his time on there he is a little over the top to compensate for his awkward situation
@lbno7725
@lbno7725 Жыл бұрын
Do you see how uncomfortable Bo gets when everyone is putting him on the spot? I hate how they all turn on him like fuckin animals
@FillipJPhry
@FillipJPhry 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to Bo on Marc Marons podcast. It was filmed shortly after this wrapped and aired. Also the reason you're so frustrated about the lack of depth in any one conversation is that it's television. Still HBO baby!
@beekind14
@beekind14 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting how he has said Carlin is a big influence in him, he references him in this song, but also those comedians were saying how they knew him. Must have felt weird at least.
@llamaman8888
@llamaman8888 2 жыл бұрын
Your biggest criticism of this conversation is literally the coping mechanism through which they all have found success.
@cuecadelacut
@cuecadelacut 6 ай бұрын
Bro they're comedians, of course they wanna get a laugh from everything
@stspeer0349
@stspeer0349 Жыл бұрын
i love the idea of being in that audience, signing up to go to a comedy show and be entertained and seeing this guy who looks every inch the kid he is on stage with them start singing about how disappointing he is in the industry hes dedicated himself to, and how he is so surely starting to hate who hes becoming
@rileyd1062
@rileyd1062 2 жыл бұрын
A 40 minute Bo video??? What a great day this is
@Sylfa
@Sylfa 4 ай бұрын
I think Rowan Atkinson did a talk/interview where he discussed creativity and how to be more creative. Sadly it's hard to find after it was taken down from youtube, but I'm sure it's around *somewhere* out there. Anyway, he was talking about how to be creative with a deadline for tomorrow when you're exhausted and have no ideas. It's not *quite* teaching someone how to be creative, but *nearly* and is something anyone with a creative job or hobby should look at. If you can find it that is…😑
@vinikamatv2309
@vinikamatv2309 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever witnessed anyone reaching so much in their watching of a comedy show It's not group therapy.
@timmycollins7665
@timmycollins7665 8 ай бұрын
Trust that everyone in the room got the song. Everyone in the room are comedians...even the audience. This is a class and it must be funny at the same time. The show got deep sometimes but it's ultimate goal was to make people laugh and to show how comics talk to eachother when others aren't around. A real show about comedians looks like this. Comedians are competitive and ego fueled. You are talking about the old generation without realizing that half of the reason Bo is uncomfortable is because it's a show that is not all about him... just like every comedian sitting at that tableFeldman. This show came out before podcasts were a thing and there were at least 3 seasons of this show.
@EmeraldCityVideo
@EmeraldCityVideo Жыл бұрын
Man, you gotta dig into Garry Shandling. He’s a genius. And I guarantee you have already seen shit from Judd Apatow.
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