also don't forget the line "there's a benefit to loosing, you get to learn from your mistakes."

Facts

Nobody makes themselves a fool. If you didn't learn it was because of your teachers sucking, if you didn't want to learn it was because them or their parents made learning feel like an unending useless chore.

@@yasininn76 people have definitely made a fool out of themselves. Tighten had all the power in the world and threw it all away to get petty revenge because he’s a creepy pathetic incel who can’t accept fact that one girl is not attracted to him

​@@yasininn76 "its everybody's fault but mine."

Actualy incorrect. The comics versions of Omniman (2002) and Homelander (2006) are older than Tighten (2010). For mainstream culture and their respective tv shows, I agree, but for comics fans, no.

Homelander and Omni Man were created before Megamind. The Boys comic was created in 2006 and Invincible was created in 2002, but both had gotten adaptations recently (TB isn't really an adaptation but eh)

Don't forget Plutonian from Irredeemable

@@ninhquockhanh7104 Too underrated

And Ultraman from Earth-3. That was also long before Megamind.

Good observation.

@@inthemindofavillain Thanks!

@@inthemindofavillainor maybe has a Nice Guy syndrome

​@@MrBrandonStar Yeah but hes more Then that.

@Jaceareeno Yep its no wonder why he Felt compelled to listen To his space dad, he even Felt hurt when megamind "lied to Space mom" i think that Was some of his personal Life spilling out.

I think he actually says Roxie and not Roxanne

She didnt try to know him which is the truth she couldnt stand Him.

@@elongatedmanforever1252she did tho what

@@thegrandatm1844 How??

​@@elongatedmanforever1252 😦

Yep. Hal believed he DESERVED to have his feelings for Roxanne returned to him. He never considered that Roxanne might not be interested in him, due to his own repugnant personality.

It's classic "Nice Guy(TM)" behaviour

What's disturbing to me is that if Hal eventually got Roxanne, he would probably get bored of her and find other ladies to be wit.

@@catholicfemininity2126or worse, he might have started abusing her

@@nicolasrestrepo6177 I doubt he would, he showed He does care about her But if he found out she Was with megamind He propably pull a Homelander.

what made Megamind work as a counterpart to Hal is even know Roxanne rejected him and felt like he screwed up he never went after her and knew he messed up and went back to being a villain showing despite losing her trust he would never go and cross a line showing he at least knew he messed up and going back to his original work is like following your old path

@@comicbookreviewer4856 Here’s another point about Tighten I wanted to make. I think he serves as a super-powered version of Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. Both have glaring similarities. They start out as toxic, but harmless, buffoons, who lust after the female protagonist. They also believe that all it takes to win the female protagonist’s heart are exterior qualities, like beauty or superpowers, in Tighten’s case. They don’t consider that their own negative qualities, such as their egos, selfishness, and overcompensation, are the reasons they don’t get the girl. They also show jealousy towards anyone who wins the heart of their desired lady. Finally, both become more evil as the story progresses, resorting to violence against those who they believe took their woman away. In that way, Tighten is even more terrifying. Gaston is scary enough, considering that his entitlement, unwillingness to take no for an answer, and resorting to violent measures when he doesn’t get his way, are all negative qualities that real people possess and cause them to hurt other people. Now, imagine a person with the same negative qualities, but having superpowers, to boot. That’s Tighten in a nutshell.

Well Hal never had much of a mentor either, that's why he reminds me of spiderman a lot, but with different powers. Hal needed the great power talk.

@@comicbookreviewer4856 another thing is Roxane, gave megamind a reason why they couldn't be together, she didn't respect Hal to give him one. You mean until megamind needed to kidnap her again.

@@speedracer2008 I think you're to hard on tighten, he's more like spiderman in my book, both shy nerds who don't even try to get the girl until they get powers. Plus the difference between Hal and Gaston is that Hal only ever wanted 1 women, Gaston could have had any women he wanted, Hal was that awkward nerd who wanted the girl but didn't think she would ever go for him, plus Roxane did take advantage of him a lot. You can tell Hal generally did care about Roxane, that's why he didn't bust in at the diner scene.

Psychopath's are born, *Sociopaths are created*

Yup.

​@@MR._BEAN35someone gets it

@@MR._BEAN35 - I thought it was the opposite? Sociopaths (those who physically can't feel empathy) are born, psychopaths (those with antisocial or violent behavior) are created. Sorry, I know it's nitpicking, but being precise is important with concepts like these.

​@@ShinyAvalon😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

i think people forget that Hal found out megamind Tricked him & roxie Was dating a supervillain His whole world turned Upside down, hal is Just lazy & lacks self Awareness its megamind Who made him unhinged.

the wizard ken: gets dumped for a bee

@@elongatedmanforever1252 why did you write this like a poem?

@@hotel_arcadia Cause I'm a warrior.

@@neros398 That whole thing was weird.

Completely agree. One of the greatest animated superhero movies of all time.

agreed

Absolutely! Just finished watching it before I got here. The humor all around is great and well timed; the plot is interesting and takes some interesting turns; and all the character arcs are solid. Truly great film.

It was overshadowed by Despicable Me, that's why it didn't take off in the beginning

Yep. Tighten was an insecure man, who saw superpowers as a way of bolstering his ego, rather than something he could have used to help others.

The two quotes unironically coming from the 2 greatest superheroes to describe a man’s transformation into a supervillain.

@@thecreatorlair Frieza is supervillain

@TheBlackPunishe what has Frieza to do with this conversation at all

Meh hal needs more character Work.

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I'm positive that The Incredibles didn't intend to satirize the superhero genre, but you're right

@@jamiegioca9448 the incredibles is more like what happens when you scoffed your biggest supporter because of your ego

the incredibles didn't really satirize superhero stories it takes itself very seriously more like a deconstruction

It's not underrated if literally everybody knows about it and praises it. It may be underrepresented in media, but it's not underrated at all

Yeap, when his superhero physique couldn’t seal the deal, he decided to throw in his friendship with her as a bargaining chip.

@@inthemindofavillain the man was in love, love makes people do crazy things.

@@senister14 He wasn’t in love. Obsessed is more like it

@@fatuusdottore he was, he would have just moved on after he got the powers but he didn't .

He could have gotten another woman. Perhaps a shallow one, but he threw away his opportunity for redemption because he had a severe obsessive case of onenitis

No his name was Titan But hal thought it was "Tighten"

@@Paleoguy3645Space Dad said “It was the only name I could trademark” plus it’s funny to imagine that Megamind has enough of an understanding of the law to find loopholes in registering trademarks but doesn’t know how to pronounce “hello”

Indeed a VERY UNDERRATED channel

Well thankfully not anymore

PRESENTATION!!!!!! *Insert Welcome To The Jungle*

“Super”villain is a villain with superpowers.

@@PayGorn Wrong. Supervillians do not need to have super powers .For Example The Joker is a supervillian, but he has no superpowers. What he definitely does have is the Presentation of a super villian.

Is it wrong to identify with some things about Hal? I guess the only difference is that I'm too shy to even talk to a woman. And my mother always taught me empathy since I was little.The only things we have in common is this fear of rejection, the fact that we are "Underdogs" and the fact that we contribute nothing to society. I'm ashamed to be like this, I had a terrible childhood, and because of that I am this "bloodsucking" for society.And what makes me even more angry is that I can't express myself to anyone, because everyone thinks I'm trying to get attention. Life Sucks.

@@Sun-God2 That sounds frustrating! 😢 I guess maybe the differentiator is that Hal is actively endangering others to make himself feel more important (feeding his ego), whereas it sounds like you just want to be able to connect with people more, and are struggling because self-esteem challenges and being highly empathetic can make that very hard...? Hope you have some outlet via community volunteering or similar. I started out cripplingly introverted as a teen, but learnt a huge amount through such activities about connecting to different types of people, & have met so many amazing individuals over the years in that space. A shared goal often helps make forging those social connections smoother, & it's possible to create some amazing mutually-supportive networks, even if only amongst a relatively small circle you trust?

@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 Thank you for your kind Words! It's been very difficult for me lately

@@Sun-God2 Hope things improve soon! Wishing you resilience, & perspective in finding the small joys & positive moments that can help pull us through those extra-challenging times...

Who the hell is titan, don't you mean tighten

Is a real villain, but not a supervillain.

@@BlackKnightZ-j3 Oh, yeah? What’s the difference?

​@@buddyro1860 Frieza is The hero actually!

@@buddyro1860*PRESENTATION!*

People forget that roxanne Was menipulating him & Obviously couldnt stand Him yet tolerated him She also never directly Told him no until he Had superpowers.

1. He had a great uncle and has a great aunt who gave him love and showed him the direction in life. 2. He used his power selfishly and only turned superhero when he witnessed Bens death.

Probably "Badass".

Syndrome had an ideology He fought for his beliefs Hal only cared about himself

Hence Gaston.

Yes Hal is somewhat entitled But i think he genuinely cared For roxanne he just went About it wrong.

I think Hal would have still been a jerk, because it's clear from the beginning that he's a selfish man who only cares about what other people can do for him. Having superpowers simply gave him the means to take it.

@@speedracer2008 It’s simply a matter “when”. You’re right, it’s more likely the end result wouldn’t change much at this point in his life. But perhaps at an earlier point in time. At a time when he was still trying to figure out who he is and wants out of life.

@@sonicwind767 True. I didn’t think of it that way. I wonder what got Hal to be this kind of person.

@@speedracer2008 The answer might be in how he reacted when he thought he was facing Metro Man. He might’ve been bullied in the past. What’s also worth mentioning is the fact that his parents are never mentioned or even revealed in the movie. This could either mean that they just didn’t matter to the plot. Or that something tragic happened to them. Ultimately, it appears that he’s never really had any real figures of authority to teach him about moral values.

@@sonicwind767 It is possible that Hal has unresolved issues with bullying in his past, given his propensity for anger and his need to flex his power over others. He may be dishing out what bullies did to him onto others.

Nah, he became bad because he lived as a looser his entire life and the only thing that kept him from snapping was his simping for Roxanne, deluding himself that he has a chance for happines because she's nice to him. He just didn't had the power to act upon his rejection likebMegamind. But once he had, all his frustration came out at once.

A lot of nerds more look at heroes with powers in awe of their fantastical powers. Superhero mythology, while encouraging altruism, is massively self empowering, and often attracts people who feel powerless or hurt by the world and allows them to fantasise about their desires. It often inspires insecure characters obsessed with heroes like Syndrome or Reverse Flash

@@arcanewarrior863 Synderome has no mention of a father in a story that focuses heavily on daddy issues, as shown by Dash acting up and Violet having confidence issues when Bob is not around. Plus, Synderome decided to go into arms manufacturing and murdered innumerable innocents in order to test his weapons so that he could show off his hero synderome driven aspriation for glory in front of Bob and invalidate what he views as the whole point of a superhero: he did all that and lashed out at all superheroes just to slight one person instead of being taught better by his mother or finding a replacement rolemodel who had noble intentions rather than likely being a warmonger. The bottom line: he's not normal, he's a sociopath (antisocial behaviour case*) who also weirdly has red hair like "tighten" and who arguably shows some signs of borderline personality disorder. It also seems to be less about insecurity and more about feeling betrayed or neglected in Synderome's case. It could also be assumed that if glory or attention was all these characters were after they would realistically relate more to selfish an self-serving villains like The Green Goblin, Megatron or Professor James Moriarty. As for Reverse Flash, I honestly don't know much about him, but I would guess that he's also not like the majoriety of nerds: yes those people could exist, you're absolutely right about that, but the number is likely so marginal that it would be unfair to say that these characters are like nerds in general. If an actual nerd acts up, they can be reminded of what the heroes they looked up to would do based on what they have done in similar circumstances. EDIT: *I meant to type 'Antisocial Personality Disorder case'.

Especially after you crush them emotionally.

@@senister14 - If your response to getting crushed emotionally (not due to anyone's malicious act, mind you, but just by not getting something you want) is to cause pain to others, getting crushed is not your problem...being cruel and pathologically selfish is. If Hal had flown off to the wilderness and punched some boulders into dust, _then_ gone back to play video games, then he wouldn't be a villain. What makes him evil is his "I'm in pain, so I get to hurt others" attitude. A good or even morally neutral person wouldn't have done what Hal did. He made that decision all by himself.

It's not his nerdiness that's the problem; it's his lack of empathy. There are plenty of awkward, nerdy people who wouldn't seek to hurt others just because they got told "no" by a prospective date.

@@ShinyAvalon in your first part of your comment are you generally asking me in person or referring to hal? I just want to be clear?

@@senister14 - I'm referring to Hal, of course. I'm using "you" in the hypothetical sense.

You're so wrong

hal is much more then a "Neckbeard".

Nah. Megamind is a lost archetype known as “the scholar”. Hal is the perfect embodiment of the term nerd

probably after the next one

@@inthemindofavillain ok you do that 😉

There’s more to tighten then that

that's a good observation actually, never considered it until you just mentioned it.

@@inthemindofavillain yeah that also might have made even more resentfull at the world he was failure to people who abused and used him so now he is paying it back

@@agsdragon5475 yep, it's joker all over again.

I disagree. A lacky type is far more willing to submit themselves to the authority of another or serve. I really do think he was a geek who was bullied. Who only ever saw himself as a victim and so was totally unprepared for being in a position of power.

@@MrMarinus18 well he kind of was a victim, I mean you saw his place. The power was just him taking revenge on those who've wronged him, a lot of people can get that.

NO! I DON'T WANT THAT! ROXANNE FINDING ANOTHER MAN?

Yeah, if I had power I bring about a world of peace, joy and prosperity... by making it a living hell for anyone who opposes those ideals.

​@@Azrael__pretty sure Hitler would've said the same thing

@ChaosAngel9151 Not remotely. I'm just envisioning bringing about the world that almost every religion yearns for. The only difference is that I don't believe there's an afterlife, so I want to bring hell to the realm of the living.

@@ChaosAngel9151 All I want is justice.

Don’t think so, his arc was complete

@@inthemindofavillain Oh okay,I understand.

@@inthemindofavillain everyone loves a good redemption arc.

​@@senister14Agreed.

​@@inthemindofavillainI mean I have a few ideas on how he could maybe come back maybe he would want to get his powers back?

Dude i agree, people are constantly crapping on hal & saying he has toxic Masculinity, hes a Creep & is a incel Whime ignoring that Megamind lied & Menipulated hal & roxanne & got Away with it & Got the girl, serioiusly People are seriously inept & Do not understand his character & just want To push anti-men Sentiments, hal is a average joe who Was obsessed with a girl & went on Too strong & Was obviously Not that smart & socially inept Thats why he Accidently comes Off as creepy because He doesnt understand Roxie doesnt like it He propably cant Understand people & just wants love.

I think the reason for that is because tbh Titian is overhyped just a tat bit because of the whole trend of the topic of incels/“nice guys” that everyone is talking about or trying to equate men to, hence why people treat tighten like he’s the most complicated realistic evil masterfully done villain ever, which he is evil, he’s written kinda generically but good, but it’s somewhat overhyped. I’m waiting for people to look back on the Mario series and start calling King Bowser a complex incel character that reflect how men are all xyz.

Yes & no because a incel Could actually change & Become heroic depending On their circumstances.

I was thinking the same thing, actually... the absence of a father figure and, by extension, a positive male role model potentially combined with a neglectful single mother could explain why he is the way he is.

It is his fault, but yeah he has no self esteem it seems, worse than me.

He is the stereotypical kid raised by single mother too

@@baha3alshamari152no, I don't think he is

i wish he had more depth.

Is that from an anime?

@@inthemindofavillain yeah, the main villain of Akira

Whatever

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@@AlexSylvester-nu1wf what?

Cringe name, but okay.