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Increasing charging voltage on car audio alternator

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SUB-HUMAN SOUNDS

SUB-HUMAN SOUNDS

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High output alternator mod. Diode to increase voltage
#hairpin #alternator #highoutput

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@scottiffanimccord1509
@scottiffanimccord1509 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video explaining the process. I have a 320 4-pin that Iraggi built for my 97 Dodge, I was a little lost at first but got it down now, I'm running 18ah Lishen cells around 16v cold 15.5 hot. I think my Mechman 240 charges better though. Scot
@ThePussymonster1991
@ThePussymonster1991 2 жыл бұрын
Also running 240 cmax in a 98 Dodge Ram w an 320 amp alt
@derekfreeman3562
@derekfreeman3562 Жыл бұрын
Does it effect the amprage any
@scottl3739
@scottl3739 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation and walkthrough 👍🏻
@larrygraves3913
@larrygraves3913 Жыл бұрын
Buy diodes and resistors. Very important. My js alt on my 05 f250 wouldn’t go past 14.9 no matter how many diodes I added(I went from 14.7 to 14.9) until I added resistors on the “other” wire opposite of the sense wire.
@kingfinesse9326
@kingfinesse9326 Ай бұрын
Can u get ahold of me sir. I have a 2 pin ho alt that is 350amp. I'm tring to up my charging from 14v to at least 15+. There's only 2 wires. Red or black. I've alrdy got my diodes wired together but I need to know which wire to tie into. I skinned them both slightly to test them n they both test around 8 on multimeter. Am I doin this correctly??
@poormansyoutube686
@poormansyoutube686 2 жыл бұрын
This video really helps
@JV-zt5zx
@JV-zt5zx 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Very detailed. If you can please help. I have a 2014 Camry 2.5 L. Can this process work on the stock alternator? And if so what wire. Thank you.
@laska4075
@laska4075 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks bud
@FrankStPeter
@FrankStPeter Ай бұрын
To the young books just getting started I have a small system maybe 2000 watts total power so I tried it with my stock 150 amp alt it does not work on stock alternators have to have aftermarket Don't ask me why
@nuts4helis
@nuts4helis 2 жыл бұрын
So I have a 99 suburban with just one brown wire coming off plug any way to boost this style alternator?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. If you pull the plug out the alternator should have the the rest of the terminals. If so, just get a 4 pin harness and replace the factory harness. That will allow you to use the same factory wire that is going to pin 2 and you can add the connection for pin 4
@martinushinton5034
@martinushinton5034 6 ай бұрын
I have one wire coming off plug on a 2020 Ford Ranger XL.
@Zachecker
@Zachecker Ай бұрын
On the yellow wire is that connect to the alternator post as well as the sense wire.
@Airman..
@Airman.. Жыл бұрын
Nice upgrade
@Husky_Shane_BassHead
@Husky_Shane_BassHead 2 жыл бұрын
What do the green and white wire do and why do you not need to use them?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
I found a pin out that listed them as the ECU wire and a pulse wire. I have never seen them used though
@Husky_Shane_BassHead
@Husky_Shane_BassHead 2 жыл бұрын
@@sub-humansounds5645 great, that you for the reply. I'm planning on doing this to a 2018 Mitsubishi Mirage. It also has a 4 pin plug, so I'm sure the process is relatively similar. Can you explain further why the resistor is needed on the lamp wire when doing this modification? Why does it not come that way form the factory? Sorry, just trying to learn as much as I can before I attempt this myself and your video was one of the better ones I could find on KZfaq.
@GregoryStackingtons212
@GregoryStackingtons212 6 ай бұрын
Now what do you do with the cars that are computer controlled and drop to 13.6 unless the computer adjusts because it sees that it needs the voltage? I have a 2012 Subaru Outback H4 I seen an article saying something about grounding out a particular wire in the computer harness???? Any input would be appreciated. I have a 360 amp autotech alt
@darodriguezfam9357
@darodriguezfam9357 2 жыл бұрын
I recently upgraded my alternator to a 370 amp alt for my car audio but my Battery saving Kees popping up. I upgraded my front battery and did a big 4. I have a 14 Chevy impala
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
What voltage are you charging at?
@user-kw7zb8qw1u
@user-kw7zb8qw1u 5 ай бұрын
Theres many ways one easy way if u get another battery series it to increase voltage ⚡ other take out the alternator voltage ⚡ regulator n rectifier n use a rheostat potential meter adjustable to increase n decrease digital is better to see how much before engine stalls energy
@marcomartinez9181
@marcomartinez9181 2 жыл бұрын
Won't the alternator stop working if you took the two cables off ?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
If the regulator is not a self exciting unit, removing the plug will stop the alternator from charging
@deontay79ify
@deontay79ify 4 ай бұрын
What if your alternator just stops charging at 16 when it was just charging np. Only charges at 14..6-14.9 Replaced regulator and diodes
@knowplay3258
@knowplay3258 Жыл бұрын
As a mechanic, all i can say is that there is so much WRONG with doing this and the part failures/severe issues this can/will cause is astounding!! Let me list a couple of potential issues and pose some relevant questions to you: If overcharging via voltage to an AGM or lead acid battery, how do you plan on dealing with the excess gas being vented? Thay gas is explosive, btw. Since this will only work on certain GM/Ford systems, what are you going to tell a Chrysler product owner that tries this and INSTANTLY fries his/her PCM, other ECMs, and potentially quite a bit of the under dash electrical system? European, Asian, and Chrysler products have the voltage regulation circuit built into the Engine PCM. How are you going to deal with the excessive heat, resistance, and internal stator wear of the alternator? An alternator can only produce amperage equal to it's build even if you increase the voltage output. Since voltage x amps = wattage and wattage can be equated to heat, how are you going to deal with the excess heat? If you equate DC electricity to water, I'll use this analogy to make a point: Voltage = water pressure, amperage = water flow volume. Most automobile electronics are made to operate under a set, but small, spectrum of voltage...that being 11.5v to 14.5v in the real world. Since you are increasing the voltage/pressure applied to those electronics, but not the amperage(electronics only "draw or consume" the amperage needed to function), you are now increasing the electrical pressure thus lowering the longevity of said electronics. Think of an electrical part as a stone and voltage as a water pressure jet hitting that stone. At normal pressure, the stone will only erode at a known set rate. Now increase the water pressure, but not the flow amount, and you get something akin to a smaller water jet allowing more pressure to erode the stone faster, especially since this particular water jet will find the weakest part of the stone and concentrate on that point. Remember, in today's vehicles, the battery is used to start the vehicle and then allow itself to be recharged by the alternator; when the engine is running, vehicles now are designed for the alternator to power almost all the electronics while also recharging the battery who's job while running is only to be recharged and supply any needed amperage the alternator can't provide due to momentary excess draw. So much more I could go into, but I'm not. I'll just ask this: What's the point for a few extra tenths of a volt that can/will can major issues while providing no extra amperage, amperage being the " fuel" for electronics? There is no good reason to do this and will only work on a handful of vehicles while causing thousands of dollars of damage to other vehicles. Just add another battery making sure the second battery has the same CCA rating as the primary and is of the same type(Lead acid, AGM, Lithium, and so on) or use a cheaper battery isolator(old Ford or lawnmover starter solenoid work) to run any size and type secondary battery. Just don't do this. This cheap "mod" can and will cost you ALOT more money in the long run. Look into a "Big 3" electrical upgrade and possibly adding a secondary battery.
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 Жыл бұрын
The .5-.7v increase is for the guys running lithium packs. Those require a slightly higher voltage to maintain a charge than AGM or conventional 12v lead acid batteries. The video does not show how to alter any pcm controlled alternators but I appreciate the detailed right up. You have some great points but adding more battery bank or a big 3 upgrade will not help with it’s the desired outcome from this “cheap mod”. I do agree that a big 3 and larger battery bank are the first place to start when building any high demand electrical system and followed with a strong charging system. outside of a competition audio system I would not consider messing with the voltage set point.
@knowplay3258
@knowplay3258 Жыл бұрын
@sub-humansounds5645 Now that I know this is for a lithium bank, it makes more sense as to why you'd want a slight increase in voltage. There are DIY kits for voltage multiplication you can use to slightly increase the voltage to a lithium bank from the alternator if you use a battery isolator to separate the primary battery from the lithium bank. Doing so won't place any extra strain on the alternator, primary battery, or other vehicle electronics. Just an idea. I've been building systems and competing for more years than I've been a mechanic(started competing at 17yo, I'm 51yo now) so I understand the need to do certain things for a more steady and readily available power supply. Especially when on a limited budget. Also, if you have an alternator or starter shop or maybe even some electrical motor shops nearby, most such shops can rewind your alternator to increase amperage output quite a bit while only slightly increasing voltage if at all...and at a fraction of the cost of a high output alternator. Another something you might want to look into. I've had a local shop do this for me several times and have been more than satisfied with the results. Good luck!!
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 Жыл бұрын
@@knowplay3258 I build my own alternators now. If you have a chance to look into them, I recommend checking out the hairpin stator design that denso makes. Those stators can be changed to produce some impressive amperage and work far more efficiently than the alternators from our time of competing. I’m close to 40 and remember having to struggle to keep enough amperage from the older slot wound stators to supply my systems. The hairpin designs are amazing with what would be like 2 alternators working in parallel in one case. I think Mitsubishi has released a newer design with even more promise now.
@Hammerback0
@Hammerback0 8 ай бұрын
Electronics only draw what they need to operate. So my amp will max out the digital clamp meter at 1000A draw (when wired to .5 ohm),so my factory 70a alternator should be sufficient? 😂 Joking Mr Sub Human, not intended towards you.
@pawkisser
@pawkisser Жыл бұрын
Ever since i did this i get more light dim and what seems like slower charging/ more voltage drop. Do i need more bank? Im on a 320 amp alt and 40ah lto, using like 6100 watts
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 Жыл бұрын
I think more bank should help that. I dont really have much experience with lithium banks(I’m old).
@sanzvlogs5157
@sanzvlogs5157 Жыл бұрын
Thats a really small battery...Why dont you use a decent 100ah battery.
@214mannygarza
@214mannygarza Жыл бұрын
Will that burn the battery??? Isn't it considered overcharging. I would love to rig up an alternator on a old 76 impala with 305 engine
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 10 ай бұрын
The increased voltage is more for race cars and lithium battery banks in car audio. It is not good for standard 12v systems.
@Turbo8285
@Turbo8285 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I noticed this is on 5.7L Vortec model can this be applied on 2003 Burban 5.3L/ 5100 Vortec LS based engine with factory AD244 alt to increase the 14.7 voltage with no load and internal regulator would like to increase voltage for system and would be nice to have sat a controller/ knob to increase when needed and are there mods to increase amp output of OEM units or no and what about eBay hairpin units 300amp clams on a budget don’t have $500 plus dollars to drop on alt, I have two ENERSYS POWERSAFE SBS-190F BATTERY 12v 190AH
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 11 ай бұрын
As long as it’s using the “4 pin” style harness this will help. This is mainly to help with the charging voltage for lithium cells though. Other battery types such as AGM are not designed to handle the excess voltage. With that said I ran mine at 15.3v unloaded for over a year with no problems on 600ah of AGM. This was 120 miles a day in my daily driver. I found this link online to help with the voltage range for AGM banks. Sorry for the late response I have been very inactive on KZfaq. support.rollsbattery.com/en/support/solutions/articles/4345-battery-charging-agm
@Anthonydemone
@Anthonydemone 11 ай бұрын
🔴 I have two of these #OneWireAlternators. One is factory #acdelco 160amp the other is a identically made #powermaster 250amp. Both are grounded to the engine right now via a #dualmountingbracket but each one power wire goes to it's own battery. Basically two charging systems. My question is can I run both #OneWire alternators in parallel by just jumping the one wire over to the other alternator and then splice the factory sense wire and jump it over as well so that the Pcm only sees Basically one high powered alternator❓️Any info would be greatly appreciated. Btw, I left out that right now I'm controling the voltage output on the 250amp with a #PulseWaveModulator that operates at 128hz just like the factory one. I can turn it as low as 11.0 up to 15.4 volts output, but I don't have anything that let's me know that it's completely charged so I can turn it down. The factory alternator does this on it's on via the PCM and I'd like it all to work like that to relieve the guess work.
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 10 ай бұрын
I do t do anything with the externally regulated alternators normally. You should be able to buy an adjustable external regulator and have it control both alternators. I think brand x makes on to control multiple alternators at one time
@matt6951
@matt6951 2 жыл бұрын
Would it work on a 2013 duramax?
@keithbutler7896
@keithbutler7896 2 жыл бұрын
Oops I didn't use a resistor on the lamp wire, going on 5 months @15.5 to 16 volts, no problems yet but should I be worried??
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
Is it using the factory wiring? Or are you directly switched to it?
@keithbutler7896
@keithbutler7896 2 жыл бұрын
@@sub-humansounds5645 I switched the harness with the one that came with the 370a Js brand alt
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithbutler7896 is the factory wire still connected to the new harness?
@keithbutler7896
@keithbutler7896 2 жыл бұрын
@@sub-humansounds5645 yes and still no problem
@basshead100
@basshead100 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there.what resistor u used?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
BOJACK 470 Ohm Resistors 1/2 W ±5% Carbon Film Single Resistor (Pack of 200 pcs) www.amazon.com/dp/B07QYRRX3L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_WWNKYZX7ES9QZMTDZ693
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
I apologize for the late reply.
@erikkkkkkkkk1
@erikkkkkkkkk1 2 жыл бұрын
With dual alt woul I need to do 1 dipde per alt?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how I always wire them up
@markcunningham2959
@markcunningham2959 2 жыл бұрын
Is that 1watt or .25 watt resistor or does it matter thank you
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
I use 1/2 watt
@schmidt76ful
@schmidt76ful 2 жыл бұрын
If you do say three do u have then going same direction towards alt
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@kevinbissessar3536
@kevinbissessar3536 10 ай бұрын
Wat kind diode are u using ?
@nick40G
@nick40G 6 ай бұрын
Is it any way to lower the charging voltage?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 6 ай бұрын
What make/model is it on?
@nick40G
@nick40G 6 ай бұрын
@@sub-humansounds5645 Chevy trailblazer 4.2L
@user-hz6gi9wz3s
@user-hz6gi9wz3s Жыл бұрын
how much valu of riseter
@justindookhoo19
@justindookhoo19 Жыл бұрын
Can this work on a 2 pin denso toyota corolla alternator?
@TheMccartyboy
@TheMccartyboy Жыл бұрын
Did you change the regulator
@Karengarcia-eo6yt
@Karengarcia-eo6yt 2 жыл бұрын
Will fit on a 2008 jetta 140 amp alternator?
@chrismills2546
@chrismills2546 2 жыл бұрын
I have three diodes and a reducer and I still cant get mine past 15.0 what am I doing wrong?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see any change when you added each diode?
@chrismills2546
@chrismills2546 2 жыл бұрын
@@sub-humansounds5645 without diodes it charges 14.8 after that it don't matter if I add 1 or 4 diodes it only goes to 15v I replaced the regulator on the alt and the pig tail. It's a Apex 350a
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrismills2546 what car is it on?
@chrismills2546
@chrismills2546 2 жыл бұрын
@@sub-humansounds5645 1993 caprice
@chrismills2546
@chrismills2546 2 жыл бұрын
Cold start itll barely touch 15.2 once it warms up it won't brake 15. I've tried different size diodes as well with the same results. Everything I do I'm getting these same results. I've drained the battery to 14.8 and tried also charged to 16 and tried all it dose is slowly go down to 15v everytime.
@kromosetrodjail2383
@kromosetrodjail2383 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't work on my alternator. Need some advice
@asimali729
@asimali729 2 жыл бұрын
Will this work in a 2c diesel engine
@jadentv1939
@jadentv1939 2 жыл бұрын
Can i use 6amp diode ?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that will work too
@jadentv1939
@jadentv1939 2 жыл бұрын
Okay thanks ,
@mr.2k81
@mr.2k81 2 жыл бұрын
I kno I can use this on a factory alt, but which wire do I use?? 2005 Tahoe...2009 Impala
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
In 2005 GM the alternator was changed over to a 2 pin. This will only work on the 4 wire alternator that is internally regulated
@BADBEATZ1
@BADBEATZ1 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 chrysler 300,the alt has 2 pin harness will this work,or what do I need for my setup
@danielbaxley2420
@danielbaxley2420 Жыл бұрын
What year gm and who makes your alternator..
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 Жыл бұрын
This was for a 2004 Tahoe but I make my own. This voltage mod will work on almost any alternator with a sense terminal
@markcunningham2959
@markcunningham2959 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use the tci in5400 diodes 3 amp thank you
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that will work.
@florenbaron7111
@florenbaron7111 Жыл бұрын
Where can I purchase one of these?
@anthonyzarraga2993
@anthonyzarraga2993 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, boss do you have the link for tje resister?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
BOJACK 470 Ohm Resistors 1/2 W ±5% Carbon Film Single Resistor (Pack of 200 pcs) www.amazon.com/dp/B07QYRRX3L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_WWNKYZX7ES9QZMTDZ693
@sansantos75
@sansantos75 2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing the same thing...
@shawnsanderson3695
@shawnsanderson3695 2 жыл бұрын
How do you install it?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
If your alternator has a “S” terminal. Wire the diode inline with that terminal. The silver band on the diode goes to the alternator
@ogunkiyode5848
@ogunkiyode5848 2 жыл бұрын
Does the same thing work for a tiida alternator??
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with those alternators
@ogunkiyode5848
@ogunkiyode5848 2 жыл бұрын
@@sub-humansounds5645 ok it's the Nissan Nissan tiida alternator it got 3 wires
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
@@ogunkiyode5848 look up the wiring diagram. The diode will connect to the s terminal
@ogunkiyode5848
@ogunkiyode5848 2 жыл бұрын
@@sub-humansounds5645 thanks alot
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
@@ogunkiyode5848 no problem. I think it’s the middle wire
@poormansyoutube686
@poormansyoutube686 2 жыл бұрын
Hi does it matter exactly what diode i use?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
As long as it can handle the current that is going through the regulator it should not matter
@craigbravo472
@craigbravo472 2 жыл бұрын
Can me do it an Honda odyssey’s alternator
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure. What year is it?
@craigbravo472
@craigbravo472 2 жыл бұрын
2009 Honda odyssey’s touring
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
@@craigbravo472 if you see a terminal labeled “S” that will work on that wire
@marcomartinez9181
@marcomartinez9181 2 жыл бұрын
Are u in dallas
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in Kentucky
@marcomartinez9181
@marcomartinez9181 2 жыл бұрын
Will it work on a 3 pin ?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
What make and model car is this on?
@marcomartinez9181
@marcomartinez9181 2 жыл бұрын
@@sub-humansounds5645 2010 ford taurus limited
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcomartinez9181 if I’m looking at it correctly the middle wire is the “S” terminal. The diodes will be installed on that terminal
@basshead100
@basshead100 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there.what is diode number?
@sub-humansounds5645
@sub-humansounds5645 2 жыл бұрын
IN5404 is the part number I use. Chanzon (Pack of 50 Pieces) 1N5404 Rectifier Diode 3A 400V DO-201AD (DO-27) Axial 5404 IN5404 3 Amp 400 Volt Electronic Silicon Diodes www.amazon.com/dp/B079KC17FZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_GCBHDHA3ASCHFN8XRN8M
@abimaelclausell2549
@abimaelclausell2549 2 жыл бұрын
Will it work for a 2006 Toyota Corolla?
@joecockheran7682
@joecockheran7682 2 жыл бұрын
can u send me a diagram or picture please
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