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India's ancient caste system misinterpreted by modern historians?

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On News Point, we discuss the debate sparked over the newly appointed ICHR Chairman Y Sudershan Rao's blog stating that the caste system worked well in ancient India. Historians discuss the matter of caste system that existed in India and whether the present day idea that it was an exploitative social system is a misinterpretation. (Audio in Hindi)
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@kvshirke9538
@kvshirke9538 5 жыл бұрын
I am from the lower most caste. If the caste system is so good is any Brahman ready to exchange his caste with me.
@smathias7840
@smathias7840 5 жыл бұрын
Why are u still following such a caste system.Leave ,be free and enjoy the free world.God loves everyone .
@shashwatanand5397
@shashwatanand5397 5 жыл бұрын
Bhai karlo exchange. Mujhe mil jyega reservation, Brahmin hone ka aise to koi fayada nhi ghata hi hai
@datsrohan
@datsrohan 5 жыл бұрын
@@shashwatanand5397 wahi toh baat h bhai reservation k liye caste exchange kroge lekin jo real casteism usk liye exchange karoge ?
@shashwatanand5397
@shashwatanand5397 5 жыл бұрын
@@datsrohan Bhai sab paise se hota hai. I have Dalit friends who are from rich families having government jobs. Unke saath koi oppression nhi hota, why? Money and power, jiske bhi pas hai he becomes a social elite and no one gives a damn about caste samjhe. Sirf reservation ki wajah se differences hain. Everything else is just propaganda.
@parblisful
@parblisful 5 жыл бұрын
brother dont call yourself lower caste....call it a different caste ...and equal to them
@amolbachhav367
@amolbachhav367 5 жыл бұрын
For people like Rao and Sinha - Caste system is very good system, but reservation is worst system. 😂😂😂😂
@indrapratap9167
@indrapratap9167 5 жыл бұрын
Haa jis se jisko fayda vo Good system aur reservation se koi fayda nhi isliye wrong system
@prof.dr.4224
@prof.dr.4224 3 жыл бұрын
My husband's ancestor was Ramram Basu, who was appointed as a Professor in Bengali and Sanskrit in the Fort William College in Calcutta in 1800. The Brahmins of that college objected that a Kayastha could not teach Sanskrit. His appointment was postponed for 4 years until Warren Hastings intervened. Thus, it is absurd to say that there was no caste system in India before the British came.
@betadevb
@betadevb 2 жыл бұрын
Proof is in your statement that caste system is modern. Your ancestor was a professor in a college setup by the British. Why would he allow other castes (ethnicities) to be eligible for his job? This is no different to people wanting less immigration to keep their wages higher. So do Donald Trump anti-immigration parochialists follow ancient Indian caste system? Both caste and modern versions of hinduism are positive orientalism. Neither existed in pre-modern India in a consistent way across India.
@silentuniverse2401
@silentuniverse2401 2 жыл бұрын
​@@betadevb ​ What you are saying is completely out of context and incomprehensible, make more sense while writing any answer. She has made perfect sense that caste system is inherent part of hinduism and has been going on since thousands of years, and has been a discriminatory tool against Dalits and shudras. Watch the video completely as the panellists has given several points that proves caste system existed in hinduism
@betadevb
@betadevb 2 жыл бұрын
@@silentuniverse2401 no my understanding is the modern academic understanding. Check out works of Nicholas dirks who is the leading expert on this or Gnana aloysius who is a Dalit activist. Both moder Hinduism and Islam in South Asia was institutionalized by the British in 18th century. There is no "thousands of years" here. British needed caste system to find unpaid labour for their plantations. You can say Brahmins benefitted but the "intricate feature of Hinduism for 1000s of years" is fake history.
@silentuniverse2401
@silentuniverse2401 2 жыл бұрын
@@betadevb keep your points based on facts and research. It's a sensitive issue so your own perception isn't sufficient. रविदास जन्म के कारनै, होत न कोउ नीच नकर कूं नीच करि डारी है, ओछे करम की कीच [ कोई भी व्यक्ति किसी जाति में जन्म के कारण नीचा या छोटा नहीं होता है, आदमी अपने कर्मों के कारण नीचा होता है. ] This was said by Saint Ravidas in 900CE and Britishers came in 1700CE and there are many proofs that caste was in hinduism since ages.
@betadevb
@betadevb 2 жыл бұрын
​@@silentuniverse2401 that's written in devanagri and modern sanskrit - developed in 17th and 18th century by the British - Fort William College is one of the major places where this happened. Likely transcribed during British period. Original text would be dated to 900CE - but that doesn't mean the text was in widespread use In 900CE most of modern day India did not speak or understand devanagari sanskrit. Were translations floating around for people in Kanyakumari and Bengal to understand this? Who was travelling across the subcontinent, risking confrontations with tigers, leopards and hostile tribes, to translate and spread this word? The history is the same with Islam - Urdu scholarship, much like modern Sanskrit scholarship, was institutionalized under the British. I am not saying caste based discrimination does not exist in India - it obviously does. But it is not an ancient monolothic practice. It was institutionalized in 17th century onwards. And this is not my stand - google who Nicholas Dirks is. It's his research. He is chancellor of UC Berkeley. Possibly world's most renowned expert on South Asian history.
@bahujannayakkanshiram3465
@bahujannayakkanshiram3465 6 жыл бұрын
सच है कि जब तक रवीश सर जैसे ईमानदार पत्रकार हैं तभी तक लोकतंत्र बचा हैं।
@babasolar7100
@babasolar7100 5 жыл бұрын
Tu v gandu hai ravish ki tarah
@poopsicklebumpkins
@poopsicklebumpkins 5 жыл бұрын
@@babasolar7100toder moto sheyana howar theke bhai amra gandu e bhalo. shudhu proshno kori, karor khoti korina.
@mohammadrafique5610
@mohammadrafique5610 5 жыл бұрын
Brahmin pareshan is only reason of support for cast system.
@onlinebharat111
@onlinebharat111 5 жыл бұрын
@@mohammadrafique5610 very true
@dodololo5586
@dodololo5586 5 жыл бұрын
yes, we always need a ravis kumar. a anna...... and we r dump. yes . u r right
@technext6272
@technext6272 Жыл бұрын
caste word comes from the roots of Portugese word Casta first used in 1569 and when Portugese came to India in 1628 they employed this word to divide people and spread hatred among us for political gains and facilated mass conversion. when the Iberians came to Asia and the Americas, they began classifying people by descent. The Indian society used to run on the basis of 'Gotram' and and their are ample examples around you to check that a Brahman and a person belonging to Sc/St category have the same gotram which makes them a family. So this caste system decided by birth and all that is a sham that has taken over to divide the people. One can also check the Bhagvad Geeta chapter 18 verse 41 where it is written that the duties of Brahman kshatriya vaishya shudra are distributed according to their qualities and not by birth. And in no scriptures Vedas Purana Upanishads it is written that varnas are based on birth. And also in chapter 18 verse 43 it is written that one's varna is decided by their own actions and capabilities and karma(also written in manusmriti adhyay 10). Caste system (based on birth) was never born in India and isn't mentioned in any of the scriptures. Being woke is your problem , woke people like ravish and all comments are also responsible for breaking india forces
@rashidrazakhan9153
@rashidrazakhan9153 Жыл бұрын
Bro caste in Hindi called jati, Nirlamba upnishad had critisized caste system. Bro because society was divided into jati, portugese used the words caste
@technext6272
@technext6272 Жыл бұрын
@@rashidrazakhan9153 jaati is not used in any scriptures. Jaati means breed which is used for type of animal , plants , etc. Scriptures, Upanishads had Varna system which was based on gunas. Iberians , britishers are the ones who was creating casta around the world for rasism and proving their superiority.
@mangeshppatil
@mangeshppatil 5 жыл бұрын
Sudarshan rao seems completely confused about his own article
@aruneshkumar2522
@aruneshkumar2522 4 жыл бұрын
Exact
@unanimousjandu1034
@unanimousjandu1034 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I think Hindi is not his mother tongue therefore he is kinda slow
@Happiness.789
@Happiness.789 5 жыл бұрын
Before I study sociology even after graduation I didn't know about the caste system. Such a hopeless thing.Most hopeless thing is that second generation Indian born and brought up in foreign countries like USA also follow the caste system.
@sankrantis6622
@sankrantis6622 2 жыл бұрын
Mountstuart Elphinstone in a written reply to the House of Commons in August 5, 1832 on mobility in India despite the caste system : "Notwithstanding the institution of castes, there is no country where men rise with more ease from the lowest rank to the highest. The first nabob (now king) of Oude, was a petty merchant; the first peishwa, a village accountant; the ancestors of Holcar were goatherds; and those of Scindia, slaves. All these, and many other instances, took place within the last century. Promotions from among the common people to all the ranks of civil and military employment, short of sovereignty, are of daily occurrence under native states, and this keeps up the spirit of the people, and in that respect partially supplies the place of popular institutions. The free intercourse of the different ranks also keeps up a sort of circulation and diffusion of such knowledge and such sentiments as exist in the society. Under us [i.e. in Britain], on the contrary, the community is divided into two perfectly distinct and dissimilar bodies, of which the one is torpid and inactive, while all the sense and power seems concentrated in the other… " Source: Dow, Alexander, The History of Hindostan, vol. I, Today & Tomorrow’s Printers & Publishers, 1973, first published 1770., page 32.
@NativeVsColonial
@NativeVsColonial 2 жыл бұрын
In Hinduism, birth based caste is a superstitious system, however Varna was the original system, in Varna there was no upper or lower, people chose the work of which they are qualified for and according to Bhagavad Gita, anyone can be a Brahmin (Teacher, Scholar profession), Shatriya (Warrior, Army profession), Vaishya (Trader, Business profession), Shudra (Other social workers) based on as per their skills, knowledge, and capabilities: 🔹In Bhagavad Gita 4:13, Krishna says that he created different Varnas (Profession) on the basis of one's Karma (Activity) and Guna (Quality). 🔹Bhagavad Gita 5:18 "The truly learned, with the eyes of divine knowledge, see with equal vision a Brahmin, a cow, an elephant, a dog, and a dog-eater" 🔹Bhagavad Gita 9:29 "I am equally disposed to all living entities: there is neither friend nor foe to Me: but those who with living sentiments render divotional service unto Me, such persons are in Me and I am in them." 🔹Bhagavad Gita 18:41 "The duties of the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras are distributed in accordance with their guṇas (quality) and not by birth. Caste is a Spanish and Portuguese word 'casta' which stands for 'Breed' or 'lineage'. During earlier times Caste use to be Varna (Profession) and based on merit and not merely by birth, I can give instances from the ancient times, where a so-called modern day "lower caste" moved to "upper caste", e.g. Guru Valmiki, Kabir Das was from a shudra family but became a brahmin based on merit, etc and btw Ravana, his younger brother Kumbhakarna all were Brahmins knowledgeable person from Northern India but because of their notorious activities all were punished by Rama (believed to be an OBC if we abide by today's caste categorization). Lastly, you have to understand the British motive behind imposing caste: The Caucasians (Europeans) created Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, Africa, to divide and control the native population, and for this reason, the Rwanda Genocide occurred. The same attempts and inequalities Europeans also tried to create amongst Indians by separating Northern India and Southern India into "Aryans" VS "Dravidians" and further dividing Hinduism into 3,000 castes and 25,000 sub-castes. And also read about Herbert Hope Risley who created casteism, racism in Indian society by one's facial features and skin color, and Bishop Robert Caldwell who propagated the "Aryan Invasion" in Southern India to convert "Dravidians" into Christianity. Read the book 'Castes of Mind' by Nicholas Dirks
@himanshusingh8414
@himanshusingh8414 2 жыл бұрын
They are other form of supremists like white racism in West.
@technext6272
@technext6272 Жыл бұрын
Because caste word comes from the roots of Portugese word Casta first used in 1569 and when Portugese came to India in 1628 they employed this word to divide people and spread hatred among us for political gains and facilated mass conversion. when the Iberians came to Asia and the Americas, they began classifying people by descent. The Indian society used to run on the basis of 'Gotram' and and their are ample examples around you to check that a Brahman and a person belonging to Sc/St category have the same gotram which makes them a family. So this caste system decided by birth and all that is a sham that has taken over to divide the people. One can also check the Bhagvad Geeta chapter 18 verse 41 where it is written that the duties of Brahman kshatriya vaishya shudra are distributed according to their qualities and not by birth. And in no scriptures Vedas Purana Upanishads it is written that varnas are based on birth. And also in chapter 18 verse 43 it is written that one's varna is decided by their own actions and capabilities and karma(also written in manusmriti adhyay 10). Caste system (based on birth) was never born in India and isn't mentioned in any of the scriptures
@johndoejohnnydoe1477
@johndoejohnnydoe1477 Жыл бұрын
@@technext6272 caste is segregation based on genes. Brahmin is most intelligent No wonder ceo of google and Microsoft happen to be a Brahmin
@shahidakhter180
@shahidakhter180 3 жыл бұрын
After giving example of Ram it’s not a historical discussion because Ram is a Mythological figure rather a historical figure
@ashishkumar-hk4oq
@ashishkumar-hk4oq 2 жыл бұрын
Brave statement....ofc it's mythological
@stxfdt1240
@stxfdt1240 Жыл бұрын
No he is real
@sagar8061
@sagar8061 5 жыл бұрын
The caste system is the curse of India. And still, it ruins everyone's life
@dr.harishkumarkhatri2149
@dr.harishkumarkhatri2149 5 жыл бұрын
Remove your caste with your name. If your want all this.
@jimmatrix7244
@jimmatrix7244 4 жыл бұрын
You have not understood it fully. The word "caste" itself is a foreign word.
@biswajeetsahu4152
@biswajeetsahu4152 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmatrix7244 who cares Aslong it affects people.
@ravi-gx2qc2qz4r
@ravi-gx2qc2qz4r 4 жыл бұрын
Caste system is in every country but it is not groped like it is grouped in India and the peoples of different castes were discriminated. This is the only difference between India and other countries but unfortunately it is represented in such a way that it has created a huge problem
@anveshkitti2835
@anveshkitti2835 4 жыл бұрын
@@ravi-gx2qc2qz4r can you show me the caste system examples in other countries... go to any crime or jobs or politics or any social structure it is still based on manu...
@kamtaprasadraj3839
@kamtaprasadraj3839 5 жыл бұрын
दुनिया के सबसे ज्यादा शिक्षित व्यक्तियों मे से एक बाबा साहब डा.भीमराव अंबेडकर को गुरु नहीं बना सकते,, पर जाति की बजह से अपमानित जरूर कर सकते हैं। भारत मे जाति व्यवस्था का इससे बुरा उदाहरण दुनिया मे कहीं नहीं मिलेगा।
@SandeepVerma-bf1ry
@SandeepVerma-bf1ry 5 жыл бұрын
sahi kaha
@nitinKumar-sy2ee
@nitinKumar-sy2ee 5 жыл бұрын
Bbot hi sahi bola
@aryakjsaaga2520
@aryakjsaaga2520 5 жыл бұрын
GURU TOH HAI HI LEKEEN UNHE KIDNAP KAR EK KHAS TABKA KAR LIYA THAPPA LAGA LIYA
@tejpalkaranrathore7646
@tejpalkaranrathore7646 5 жыл бұрын
Kamtaprasad Raj आप ने गलत बात की है मेवाड़ की महारानी मीराबाई ने भगवान श्री कृष्ण जी की प्रिय भक्त थीं पर उन्हें सच्चे गुरु की खोज थी तब उन्हें पता चला कि सन्त रविदास जी बड़े सन्त थे तब मीराबाई ने अपना गुरु बनाया इसी तरह मारवाड़ मतलब राजस्थान के जोधपुर के पास बालोतरा उसके पास मालानी के राजा मल्लीनाथ जी उनकी पत्नी ने अपना गुरु सन्त धारू जी मेघवाल थे इसी तरह एक उदाहरण भिष्मपिताह ने प्रतिज्ञा ली थी उसके पीछे कारण था अपने पिता की शादी करवानी थी वो लड़की मच्छ कन्या थी केवट की पुत्री और शुद्र वर्ण को पढ़ाई का अधिकार नहीं था तो ऋषि वाल्मीकि जी ने संस्कृत में रामायण कैसे लिखी और ऋषि एतराये जी ने 16सस्कार कैसे लिखें उनको पढ़ने का अधिकार नहीं था तो ऐसे हजारों उदाहरण प्राचीन समय का है पर 3000हजार साल में कम उदाहरण मिलेंगे उस समय में उस समय भारत देश में भेदभाव बढ़ा हुआ था अत्यचार अधिक था उसके बाद भगवान बुद्ध ने जन्म लिया नेपाल में लुंबिनी राज्य में शाक्य वंश में राजा के घर में उसके बाद का इतिहास सभी जानते है
@spa8596
@spa8596 4 жыл бұрын
@@arpitchauhan8225 ji... But ambedkar ne esa kabhi nhi kahan ki iss reservation ko 200-300 salon tk chalana h... Ye hmari sari govts. Ki nakamyabi & votebank ki rajniti ki vjh se ab tk h....
@tushkoli
@tushkoli 5 жыл бұрын
Please don't glorify caste system. It might be working in the past, but we do not need it now. We as a country have come far away from it, at a very heavy price. We must make an attempt to practice and protect our constitutional rights as far as possible to raise the standards of our people - physically, mentally, intellectually and spiritually! Never again shall we treat people shabbily, just because they are born in certain circumstances!
@nikkukumari5132
@nikkukumari5132 5 жыл бұрын
No dude it still happen in india.
@raushanpathak4015
@raushanpathak4015 4 жыл бұрын
nikku reservation is the cause of existing cast system now
@nikkukumari5132
@nikkukumari5132 4 жыл бұрын
@@raushanpathak4015 no dude actually reservation based upon caste discrimination.if we kill caste discrimination in our society then reservation will die naturally.
@MohitSharma-cy4rv
@MohitSharma-cy4rv 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikkukumari5132 you are obviously a lower caste person
@nikkukumari5132
@nikkukumari5132 4 жыл бұрын
@@MohitSharma-cy4rv sadar charanaspars apko🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️
@pradnyaadhav811
@pradnyaadhav811 5 жыл бұрын
Sinha is trying to justify caste system with the help of mythology. How can you say that at some age caste system was comfortable, were the lower caste people asked whether they were comfortable with it, which human will be comfortable in being treated in an inhumane way.
@parvinder777
@parvinder777 5 жыл бұрын
actuly he knows the truth,but being a rrs member he can not say it openly.
@StopFear
@StopFear 4 жыл бұрын
It is because he is an immoral hypocrite. He is one of those ancient nationalist people who refuse to accept ANY criticism of India's culture or history. To people like him India is a perfect country whose modern problems are ONLY cause by someone from outside of India. Obviously there are some rooted cultural practices of India's people which perpetuate racism, discrimination, and mistreatment.
@manjunathareddy6548
@manjunathareddy6548 4 жыл бұрын
Caste and jaati are different. Jaati is based on the profession. Jaati is a characteristics, skills of a person. Cast system exist in america too because normal man in USA cant expect the respect of president.
@pradnyaadhav811
@pradnyaadhav811 4 жыл бұрын
Ms. Reddy caste is the English word for जात in Marathi or जाती in Hindi. I think you got confused between caste and religion. Religion means धर्म
@saivishwakarma1983
@saivishwakarma1983 6 жыл бұрын
it's my privilege to have Vishwa Mohan Jha sir as my mentor..great historian..
@datsrohan
@datsrohan 5 жыл бұрын
Does he have written on history would love to read it. Or Any online class of him.
@colvjaiswal
@colvjaiswal 6 жыл бұрын
it is shame to have this person as chairman of ICHR. He is not only confused but ignorant of facts and history. He has miserably failed to give any evidence of history and facts in support of his perception and writing. He will seriously damage the reputation, dignity and reputation of the chair he holds.
@nitinawachar2938
@nitinawachar2938 5 жыл бұрын
Lord Buddha strongly opposed castiesm
@yatharthagrawal1416
@yatharthagrawal1416 4 жыл бұрын
Kha likha he?
@rajeevkamra9120
@rajeevkamra9120 4 жыл бұрын
@@yatharthagrawal1416 लिखने का क्या ......उन्हीने सबसे पहले हिंदू धर्म के वर्ण व्यवस्था को खुली चुनौती देकर ज्ञान का दरवाजा अछूत, वैश्या , खुनी , डकैत, हर जाती के इन्सान को खुला किया ,समानता का संदेश दिया जो हिंदू धर्म मे नही था क्यूकी हिंदू धर्म का बेस असामानता थी ....तो उन्होने जातिगत भेदभाव को खुली चुनौती दि तो थी
@yatharthagrawal1416
@yatharthagrawal1416 4 жыл бұрын
@@rajeevkamra9120 jhuth fail rahe he aap
@rajeevkamra9120
@rajeevkamra9120 4 жыл бұрын
@@yatharthagrawal1416 आप बुद्ध धर्म के बारे मे ज्यादा जानते होंगे. कितने 'किताब पढे हमे भी बाताओ
@soulbabashiv5889
@soulbabashiv5889 4 жыл бұрын
@@yatharthagrawal1416 br Ambedkar ke books pado
@shishirkumar4932
@shishirkumar4932 6 жыл бұрын
excellent debate. this is how a debate should be.
@data_stats
@data_stats 4 жыл бұрын
Correct
@arpantellyou7971
@arpantellyou7971 6 жыл бұрын
Cast system is biggest threaten to india...We should remove cast from name and System...
@cool00blue
@cool00blue 5 жыл бұрын
Remove caste ... without caste there is no caste system .
@dr.harishkumarkhatri2149
@dr.harishkumarkhatri2149 5 жыл бұрын
You want to remove caste system and you're yourself presenting with caste. First remove your caste with your name then give lecture to others.
@StopFear
@StopFear 4 жыл бұрын
@@dr.harishkumarkhatri2149 Is that supposed to be a valid response to Arpan Patel? Do you realize how what you wrote is self contradictory and immoral? You are suggesting HE must change his name. WHY? Because you suggest that other people hear his name and treat him because of the caste the name is associated with. BUT WHY should HE be changing his name? Other people are obligated to not associate people's names with any caste and they must treat everyone equally as India's constitution requires. Are you also going to say the the people in the lowest untouchable case also simply have to "change their name?" How is a victim supposed to be responsible to change their name? It is the people who love the caste system who are obligated to stop discriminating.
@dr.harishkumarkhatri2149
@dr.harishkumarkhatri2149 4 жыл бұрын
Why would I suggest you to change your name. You are against Caste System and you are yourself mention caste with your name. That's why I wrote that. No where I wrote that I'm against caste system and for your kind information this is my mail id. Otherwise my name is Harish Kumar on every record. Hope you would satisfy now.
@shantarambhosle553
@shantarambhosle553 4 жыл бұрын
If Ram was purshotam and also Holy Spirit then he is not believed Sitamai but by listening of other how He doubted her and how killed Sambuka by following caste system
@colvjaiswal
@colvjaiswal 6 жыл бұрын
There is one important aspect about caste system has been awfully. In my opinion the caste system is directly and solely responsible for all the defeats, humiliation and destruction of this country. Because, The caste system debars the 2/3 rd. of population from learning art of war or use of weapons. It lays that except the Rajputs no one was to fight The Rajputs were responsible for protection of territory and all their subjects. This lead to a situation where when the invaders came the two third of population was just spectators. And gave birth to a belief that " Kou nrip hoi hme ka hani...cheri char na houb rani" It was felt that who ever may rule the Brahmin will continue to do puja, Vaishya will continue doing business and shudra will keep carrying out services. A nation so resigned and convinced that their fate will never change, they can become a king or rich businessmen slowly detoriated and fell easy pray to all invaders.
@DipakBose-bq1vv
@DipakBose-bq1vv 5 жыл бұрын
The same system is still going on in every country. Soldiers have the responsibility to protect the country.
@noname-oo7rd
@noname-oo7rd 5 жыл бұрын
@@DipakBose-bq1vv abe dhakkan but everyone can become a soldier. It's not based on birth. Infact army sometimes forces citizens. Khajput chutiyo ne because of pride probably didn't let shudras and dalits prepare for war. Muslims and Christians dont face this problem. Ur denial and answer back shows how sick upper caste is
@MAN-jz6qc
@MAN-jz6qc 5 жыл бұрын
@@noname-oo7rd Abe idiot kshatriyas had the responsibility to protect society not Rajputs, Rajputs and kshatriyas are two different things, Rajputs was a caste group which originated from different castes like jats,gujjars,Ahirs, and other similar castes during 11th century then after 15th century system got corrupted and it got based on lineage, so actually Rajputs are not even original kshatriyas because some Rajputs even came from lower caste such as kacchawahas, but you are an idiot you are confusing kshatriyas with Rajputs.
@MAN-jz6qc
@MAN-jz6qc 5 жыл бұрын
@@noname-oo7rd lol I know caste system is bad and needs to be removed but I still think Varna system is good option, it was based on karma not birth, otherwise I endorse and agree and what you said above.
@vinodmm6681
@vinodmm6681 5 жыл бұрын
The Upanishads are the highest authority on what Hinduism is. It doesn't mention the caste system we follow. Upanishads proclaim one God that is Brahman and all other life forms originated from Brahman and each life form has a part of Brahman in them called Atman. But due to ignorance the individuals are not able to realise this truth that they are part of Brahman. Once the darkness or ignorance is removed, the individuals can realise they are derivatives of Brahman itself. This is what the rishis realized in their deep meditation- i.e Aham Brahmasmi meaning I am Brahman. If each individual is derived from Brahman, obviously the whole world is one family- Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam! It's not very difficult to understand. But the so called priests/ Brahmins distorted this truth and devised caste system to for selfish reason. They degenerated the beautiful Sanathana Dharma for selfish reason and this resulted in the decline and conquer of India . It's high time we bring the truths of Sanathana Dharma, where the only merit is goodness.
@swapniljadhav4070
@swapniljadhav4070 4 жыл бұрын
Caste system is the shame of India.and we all have to fight against it.and firstly we have to start it with our ownself .
@vaibhavsingh9137
@vaibhavsingh9137 6 жыл бұрын
VERY NICE TOPIC CHOOSED.....GLAD THAT RAVISH SIR THOUGHT OF DOING THIS.
@ak220880
@ak220880 10 жыл бұрын
it is irony that now our respected govt is trying to play with history. They appointed a person at post of ICHR chairman, who do not even know the meaning of word "history". he continously stubborn to presenting things and claiming of time of ancient india, but failed to tell of what period and wat r the evidences. our hinduism have a beutiful line that "satyam sivan sundaram" i.e. truth is beutiful and truth is god. but these brahminism religions followers trying to forcing things as truth without giving proper evidence in support and in a way killing the sprit of finding & speaking truth. they r presenting mythology (and lame unconnected pseudo-science and pseudo-documentary by mythostorians in support of that) as history, and presenting history as mythology. Remember, those who dont respect their history, history repeats itself and give big punishment. this govt who claim about inclusive growth, now r appointing casteism supporters at its key posts. These very casteism/varna had become reason of foreigners did successful invasions on country.
@vinay16011990
@vinay16011990 6 жыл бұрын
Upa time me Bana tha
@teeluckdharrysailesh8834
@teeluckdharrysailesh8834 3 жыл бұрын
Caste System is a Violation Of Human Rights
@pramodgurjar7053
@pramodgurjar7053 Жыл бұрын
@@teeluckdharrysailesh8834 how
@adistalk1146
@adistalk1146 5 жыл бұрын
This is 1st debates i see in peaceful nd informative
@RajendraSingh-dq3gb
@RajendraSingh-dq3gb 2 жыл бұрын
रविश जी आप की जैसी पत्रकारिता किसी की न सुनी न देखी, आप को दिल मेरा परणाम।
@r.kfilms3395
@r.kfilms3395 6 жыл бұрын
क्या ये नहीं हो सकता कि सिस्टम से जाति का कॉलम को ही हटा देना चाहिए और किसी का भी प्रमाण पत्र नहीं देना चाहिए धर्म के कॉलम में सिर्फ भारतीय लिखना चाहिए
@drsurendrabouddh4828
@drsurendrabouddh4828 6 жыл бұрын
And those are thousands of year deprived from everything..... You will not uplift for their development and dignified life?
@tulsiramsonawane8023
@tulsiramsonawane8023 5 жыл бұрын
"भारतीय" राष्ट्रीयता Nationality
@dodololo5586
@dodololo5586 5 жыл бұрын
han bhai aisa hi br ambedkar ne socha tha aur lo ooper se chamatkar ho gya . roj bhagwan ki pooja karte raho aur chamatkar ho jayega
@ayushmandhanrajpurohit8998
@ayushmandhanrajpurohit8998 5 жыл бұрын
सुदर्शन जी को सुनकर बहुत अच्छा लगा लगा एक महान इतिहासकार को सुन रहा हू।
@bhartiharikant
@bhartiharikant 5 жыл бұрын
Baat Keval column bharne tak hi nahi hai sir.
@bhoorelal7812
@bhoorelal7812 4 жыл бұрын
शूद्रों को ये कथित महानों ने संस्कारों और शिक्षा-ज्ञान से वंचित क्यों रखा..?
@alpeshmittal3779
@alpeshmittal3779 4 жыл бұрын
No body liked competition , meritocracy and quality that comes with it. Thats why.
@tussudas
@tussudas 5 жыл бұрын
What a man.. What a journalist.. Hats off ravish kumar
@samajikgyan-sudha8552
@samajikgyan-sudha8552 4 жыл бұрын
Very good topic for discussion! Thanks to Raveesh ji for selecting the topic. Western interpretation cannot explain or understand this concept.
@tingneihatkuki8337
@tingneihatkuki8337 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a beautiful form of debate and discussion. We are definitely missing these kind of well mannered conversation.
@stocktrader14
@stocktrader14 5 жыл бұрын
No one is better than Ravish... excellent analysis, brilliant description and best facts
@VirendraKumar-qz6xs
@VirendraKumar-qz6xs 6 жыл бұрын
It’s a Racism. Besides Shudras, untouchables and tribals are more sufferers in Hindu society.
@virtualmaza513
@virtualmaza513 5 жыл бұрын
There are no such thing like shudras , untouchables in India. It's in the mind of people . How can person be proud or pity on himself just because of caste.
@aloksen626
@aloksen626 4 жыл бұрын
This is the problem with you people, you guys are so deep into victimhood that it stunts your ability to grow and overcome this oppression and become stronger. Unless this happens you are bound to stay the same.
@garyfreeman4283
@garyfreeman4283 4 жыл бұрын
@@aloksen626 Why don't you change names and show how it's done?
@optimusprime5199
@optimusprime5199 4 жыл бұрын
@@virtualmaza513 Yes, it's in minds of people that's why there are still such thing as shudra and untouchables.
@manjunathareddy6548
@manjunathareddy6548 4 жыл бұрын
Its all created by British education. Why would you expect others to touch you first of all? Respect yourself man. Why do you want others to acknowledge. Do your karma and be happy
@sambhumishra7045
@sambhumishra7045 2 жыл бұрын
In valmiki Ramayan, it is not mentioned that Sri Ram took fruits tested by Savari.
@pramodnarwade9151
@pramodnarwade9151 5 жыл бұрын
Very brave of Y. Sudarshan. He took everything, realised he was wrong and didn't throw any tantrums. I do disagree with his opinion though.
@somenathsaha8281
@somenathsaha8281 5 жыл бұрын
How Ramayan become our ancient history? It is mythology.
@lokeeb1486
@lokeeb1486 5 жыл бұрын
It is history
@somenathsaha8281
@somenathsaha8281 5 жыл бұрын
@@lokeeb1486 No issue. Teach your child that it is a history.
@somenathsaha8281
@somenathsaha8281 5 жыл бұрын
Hope they will invent puspak one day. Sorry reinvent. I am getting boar when I am in flight because cannt feel out side air. It will help me a lot for me or my child if reinvented. Wish you best of luck 😏😏😏
@vinodsarode8368
@vinodsarode8368 6 жыл бұрын
He is the wrong man to be chairman of ICHR due to one single point that he is a completerly confused person .
@mohinderkumar7298
@mohinderkumar7298 5 жыл бұрын
Kashmiri Pandits have culture of eating cow beef even today. In 20133 my village survey in Kashmir showed Pandits served cow meat to muslim guests in marriage function.
@vjj6258
@vjj6258 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Y sudarshan Rao 'By Birth Everyone is Shudra' this is is true! There was never term called 'Jaathi' it was always 'Varna' .. it is nothing type, color or practise one who adopts, being born as Shudra a human has right to choose his path, he can become a Warrior(Kshatriya), do a skillfull job (Vyshya), reach divine eternity(Brahmin). A shudra can choose himself to be Shudra too (non skilled person). In short we can be anyone, this caste is created by Brahmin just to distinguish themselves and to keep them at top of rank. I agree our modern day has misinterpreted caste system.
@mukeshpaswan8104
@mukeshpaswan8104 5 жыл бұрын
Koi miss interpretation nahi , Caste system is itself H.I.V in India
@raushanpathak4015
@raushanpathak4015 4 жыл бұрын
reservation is the AIDS for India
@rythemchaudhari5717
@rythemchaudhari5717 3 жыл бұрын
@@raushanpathak4015 nope reservation is for social upliftment of lower caste people the day caste system dies is the day reservations will die too.
@apurvsingh5541
@apurvsingh5541 3 жыл бұрын
@@raushanpathak4015 Anti reservation sentiment is AIDS/COVID or whatever you want to coin it.
@user-ru6ob9pk8m
@user-ru6ob9pk8m 5 жыл бұрын
Team NDTV team what rumours about ndtv worried At any cost we want Ravish & ndtv
@rutvikpatel1950
@rutvikpatel1950 6 жыл бұрын
Sambit patra: aaise kon debate karta hai..
@pramodpasi9154
@pramodpasi9154 5 жыл бұрын
जयहिंद जय संविधान दोस्तों जो लोग अंधविश्वास में विश्वास रखते हैं वो ही इसतरह की बात करते नजर आते हैं चेयरमैन राव आप पुनरजन्म जैसी चमत्कार आपके साथ जरूर होगा 😁😁😁😁😁
@shivam-yo5ie
@shivam-yo5ie 3 жыл бұрын
Sahi kaha ekdum
@rabatha2733
@rabatha2733 10 жыл бұрын
Gandhi was a Racist. He defended the cast system, prasising the Fundamental Divisions. The Ruthless Cast System has made Indian Society Insensative to the Suffering of the LOWER CLASS. Gandhi Made a Fifth Lower Cast Called HARIJAN Scheduled Castes.
@dipanshudon
@dipanshudon 10 жыл бұрын
if Gandhi was rascist then why would he call Dalit the Harijan, literally means people of Vishnu. ????
@gaabnbrgjall2550
@gaabnbrgjall2550 9 жыл бұрын
i think you dont know history properly...gandhi was also a as usual indian... when he had been to south africa... he realised how we treates low cast people in india... because britishers treated very badly for african & indians with same manners...than only he he realised what is drawbacks in india
@sam7748
@sam7748 9 жыл бұрын
Vivek Garg Actually, Gandhi was the first nudist--another genius of hinduism.
@bluesajjad1
@bluesajjad1 7 жыл бұрын
First? Kidding, are you? How about Krishna with his 16,000 gopinis?
@abhishekvarma2119
@abhishekvarma2119 5 жыл бұрын
Bahut heavy debate tha..... Aadha to sar k upar se chala Gaya. Lekin fir se sununga aur samjhunga.....👌👌👌👌
@priyaa0235
@priyaa0235 5 жыл бұрын
Ravish ji aapka ye time prime ya aapka bolna Ek drug ki tarah hai jitna dekho or suno or dekhne ka sunne ka Mann hota hai...... U knw u r unique and most sensible and straight forward person I like uuuuuuu
@Pradeep-ve5os
@Pradeep-ve5os 5 жыл бұрын
I love to have this drug... Drug which clears my mind.. which makes the whole world view clear.... No Fakeness , only truth
@prashantmaurya5151
@prashantmaurya5151 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 apne to what lga di.." कौन से काल में वर्ण व्वस्था अच्छा काम कर रही थी
@raviard649
@raviard649 4 жыл бұрын
Chanderbhan parshad aap keya dusare parmatma ne banaye the Jo tumhe padne ka adikaar hai Jo dalit ko nhi tha jawaab dijiye
@DeepakJha-lt9ud
@DeepakJha-lt9ud 4 жыл бұрын
@@raviard649 are Bhai Tu Ramayana Dekh usme tujhe pata lagega dalit padhta v tha or Brahmin, Rajput ke sath gurukul me padhte bhi the..or raja bhi the..
@ishx_03
@ishx_03 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeepakJha-lt9ud that's a TV show
@firstnamelastname1687
@firstnamelastname1687 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeepakJha-lt9ud Asli ramayan me nahi hain, Ramanand sagar wala ramayan mat dekho. South indians bandar aur bhalu hain ramayana me.
@kaptaan_97
@kaptaan_97 4 жыл бұрын
Jaati matlab janm Varna matlab pratibha, kushalta It is clearly return in Indica by megasthenes was that their were non-discriminationat all in rig vedic era and and discrimination started when cast is imposed on the people by Britishers and Jawaharlal Nehru. Megasthenes also said that anyone change change his varna according to his choice.
@sknagesh2006
@sknagesh2006 8 жыл бұрын
In the panel discussions, Mr. Y Sudarshan Rao did not seem confident on his view-point. Anyway ....
@nikhilabhishek2
@nikhilabhishek2 6 жыл бұрын
Surendra Nagesh sahi kaha jhuth ke pair nhi hote
@tubester4567
@tubester4567 5 жыл бұрын
India needs to end the caste system. Make it illegal.
@thevloglife5899
@thevloglife5899 5 жыл бұрын
@@tubester4567 i want to end it too.. Standing in 2024 elections from MP..nirdaliye Motto - end a casteism in India. Replace surname with last 3 digits of aadhar card. If u support me plz vote or if u want to make a party contact me.
@nishantnimish7825
@nishantnimish7825 3 жыл бұрын
@@thevloglife5899 caste system is important
@PlatypusPerry-
@PlatypusPerry- 3 жыл бұрын
@@nishantnimish7825 so are reservation based on caste system
@songsforrefreshmentofmind1221
@songsforrefreshmentofmind1221 6 жыл бұрын
सुदर्शन राव जी को सुन के नहीं लगा कि किसी ईतिहासकार को सुन रहा हुँ। एसी तथ्यहीन बातें जो बलाग में उन्हों ने कही है कोई रोड छाप भी नहीं करता ।उस के पास भी कूतर्क होते हैं।
@ssursi3809
@ssursi3809 5 жыл бұрын
तथ्यहीन बातें no, four varan not man made.
@ayushmandhanrajpurohit8998
@ayushmandhanrajpurohit8998 5 жыл бұрын
सुदर्शन जी को सुनकर बहुत अच्छा लगा लगा एक महान इतिहासकार को सुन रहा हू।
@indrajeetdas8565
@indrajeetdas8565 5 жыл бұрын
jab koi sudra ye bate bolta to kuch relevant hota
@fazalahmed2112
@fazalahmed2112 5 жыл бұрын
songs for refreshment of mind b
@SKNayak-gl4xt
@SKNayak-gl4xt 4 жыл бұрын
@@ayushmandhanrajpurohit8998 phir toh koi history nahi aapko Nancy drew ki novels padhni chahye. Wahi kalpanik batein achi lagengi !!
@shivdasben718
@shivdasben718 5 жыл бұрын
राव ब्राह्मण है और वह अपनी बुद्धि का प्रयोग कर इस व्यवस्था को बनाये रखना चाहते हैं
@darkhorse6774
@darkhorse6774 4 жыл бұрын
True.
@jackbond4453
@jackbond4453 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Rao should study the Buddha period. Bhudhism cam as a revolution against the Brahmin ritualistic exploitation and caste system.
@shashwatanand5397
@shashwatanand5397 5 жыл бұрын
Brahmins created Buddhism
@ex009adityarajsingh2
@ex009adityarajsingh2 3 жыл бұрын
@@shashwatanand5397 Brahmins created buddhism 🤣🤣🤣 joke of the year
@sanilyadav1450
@sanilyadav1450 2 жыл бұрын
@@ex009adityarajsingh2 75% Buddhas disciples were brahmins.
@sanilyadav1450
@sanilyadav1450 2 жыл бұрын
*Much of the Buddhism is so much exaggerated.But most of the Buddhas critic of brahmins instead he redefined who should be brahmin? Brahmin by talent not by birth. Beside he never was against anyone he reformed very much. At time of Buddha Caste heirarchy was not so much at its lowest level. It became worst later on. Read history fact base.*
@DevendraKumar-kj9ev
@DevendraKumar-kj9ev 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Rao must stdy Dr Ambedkar literature. He is suffering with complexity.and creating controversy. He is not atrue historian.
@krishnarao7329
@krishnarao7329 4 жыл бұрын
Even Dr. Ambedkar is not an historian.
@aruneshkumar2522
@aruneshkumar2522 4 жыл бұрын
Exact
@aruneshkumar2522
@aruneshkumar2522 4 жыл бұрын
He was only mentally week because of he did feel untouchable castee himself, he did not proud of him that he is untouchable castee but not agyani so he felt mentally week and by the way of christianity he decided to make indian new const
@shivam-yo5ie
@shivam-yo5ie 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you are absolutely right!
@ARVINDKUMAR-fy1my
@ARVINDKUMAR-fy1my 6 жыл бұрын
Rao is brahmin...he will never oppose cast system by birth... He cant even answer that what is special in his birth ....
@abhishekraj6737
@abhishekraj6737 5 жыл бұрын
Ravish kumar is also a bhumihar bramhin....what have you to tell about him?
@lovemelodies1532
@lovemelodies1532 5 жыл бұрын
Abhishek R what is bhumihar brahmin...only bhumihar...😂 Bhai 3-4 caste ka naam aur jod ke bol de na
@samratveervikram4595
@samratveervikram4595 5 жыл бұрын
Mujhe aaj bhi higher caste nahi chhute hain..but I don't care I pray to god I try to be happy whatever I have..I am proud to be a hindu..love ndtv
@Safina757
@Safina757 3 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't give a damn about those so-called higher cast bullies, God created us equal, learn and get your self educated, don't claim your cast, abundant every aspect that put you in lower cast, never call your self dalit, drop your last name, your father’s first name should be the last name. 🙏🏼
@alok9307
@alok9307 Жыл бұрын
Don't worship hindus god
@sandysarker
@sandysarker 5 жыл бұрын
watching it in 2019. this man has been a legend, we didn't recognise him till the 2016 JNU incident. Bravo Ravish ji.
@nishantnimish7825
@nishantnimish7825 3 жыл бұрын
Molvi
@technext6272
@technext6272 Жыл бұрын
Jnu ke jihadi jo ho tum 😂 chutiye saale ibarians ne birth based casta system banaya gunas based varna system se aur aaye chale missionary
@dr.sujeetk.mritunjay8471
@dr.sujeetk.mritunjay8471 9 ай бұрын
November 2023
@csmann100
@csmann100 9 жыл бұрын
Mr. Rao is a Brahman. It suits him to deny the sins of his caste.
@gaabnbrgjall2550
@gaabnbrgjall2550 9 жыл бұрын
this rao must born low cast in is nest birth than only he realises what is the difficulties in caste system
@subhashwarule260
@subhashwarule260 6 жыл бұрын
cjs maan A1W ज
@saurabhsharma-hl9yw
@saurabhsharma-hl9yw 6 жыл бұрын
cjs maan anpadh gawar WO jaat hain na ki Brahman
@indiansage359
@indiansage359 6 жыл бұрын
cjs maan I am Brahmin I do not think my ancestors done any wrong to your lower caste people. You suffering from a diease.
@sandeephalder2562
@sandeephalder2562 6 жыл бұрын
i am not a brahmin and haven't faced any problem in india. stfu
@korashortss
@korashortss 5 жыл бұрын
Bygod, Ravish Kumar argument or journalism is just another level..... 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@dhananjoymistri5066
@dhananjoymistri5066 4 жыл бұрын
রবীশ বাবু আপনি সর্বদা সত্য অনুধাবন করার চেষ্টা করেছেন । ধন্যবাদ জানাই
@bakkasur9614
@bakkasur9614 6 жыл бұрын
Historians should be responsible for their work..... They should hv integrity....
@smrutibodhi3284
@smrutibodhi3284 7 жыл бұрын
wayyyyyy better than arnab.
@bhim_warrior482
@bhim_warrior482 5 жыл бұрын
Hiii....
@YashuAdarsh
@YashuAdarsh 5 жыл бұрын
For sure
@pardeeptandon6730
@pardeeptandon6730 5 жыл бұрын
Cast system in India is a racist practice and should be legally banned in India. But many of our laws have an element of Cast in them.
@SukhchainSingh-ob3yh
@SukhchainSingh-ob3yh 6 жыл бұрын
Vishwamohan jha’s views are best😊
@yogeshkumarleuva4147
@yogeshkumarleuva4147 5 жыл бұрын
Sukhchain Singh Vishwamohan jha's Sir best History Professor in India.
@anuragpinku88
@anuragpinku88 4 жыл бұрын
well said brother
@shyamakantyadav2424
@shyamakantyadav2424 5 жыл бұрын
He is actual a historian?????
@KAMLESHKUMAR-mv7su
@KAMLESHKUMAR-mv7su 5 жыл бұрын
Nice topic this topic is very interesting, Is Rao historian prof h I can't believe because he is not describing his blog. Good job Ravish Sir.....🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
@wilddoggamechanger7591
@wilddoggamechanger7591 9 жыл бұрын
I am indian, but i am feeling very shameful to say i am indian because of caste system in india. this caste system came from illiterate people in india. I am failed in love because of i am low caste, My girlfriend has to leave me since it may shame her family because of i am low caste. I Loved her very much since two years but she has caste feeling she leaves me from then. In my day to day life I experience discrimination, my close friend also not interest to talk with me, from when he knows i am a low caste person. high caste people feeling that, they are gods, kings rulers of india. what is your proud? how can you judge these is low caste people and how can u judge these are untouchable persons. who gives this rights to you all? see in this world who ever born they have equal rights to live there own fashion, but how high caste people in india treat some ones are untouchable person. this is bad indian culture. i am very shameful to say i am indian. i ask question to you all who ever feels that we are high caste.... 1) what is caste ? (ans: it's just a name ) 2) why caste system only appears in india? (ans: because illiterate people and they ego) 3) which god tolds you someones are untouchable person? (ans: no one told, it just man maded virus) 4) how did you consider as low caste peoples are servents? you illiterate high caste people wake up this is 2015 not 1800's. who ever has caste feelings just go and die. In this world each and everyone has a soul just respect that soul. respects the person, don't respect the names like caste.
@AmirKhan-jv7uw
@AmirKhan-jv7uw 8 жыл бұрын
+mahesh sam IF YOU HAVE MONEY THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT CAST AFTER THAT>>>>lol
@wilddoggamechanger7591
@wilddoggamechanger7591 8 жыл бұрын
we r low caste that's why still middle class condition...
@preetidas9511
@preetidas9511 3 жыл бұрын
@Suraya Khan But Islam has failed in India! Even muslims here practice caste. If the message of Islam is all humans are equal in the eyes of god then why muslims here practice caste? Why there are 'dalit' muslims? A religion is known by its followers and in this case Indian islamic followers are doing the exact opposite of what your phrophet said. Your prophet proved weak, your god's message proved weak. Islam couldn't stand the test of social evil that is caste system. The caste system infected Islam like cancer. Same goes for christianity and sikhism.
@Meenamisty7
@Meenamisty7 Жыл бұрын
Read about Brahmins how occupied India? Learn who are they
@sarvajanhitaay
@sarvajanhitaay Жыл бұрын
There is far difference between rights and duty. So duty defines for people doesn't mean rights forbidden.
@mbbsimportanttopics1305
@mbbsimportanttopics1305 4 жыл бұрын
Brahmin =500 =fail. Sc/st=250 = passed. Near future = dead end
@shashankyadav8490
@shashankyadav8490 4 жыл бұрын
Tumhi logo ki den he
@mbbsimportanttopics1305
@mbbsimportanttopics1305 4 жыл бұрын
@@shashankyadav8490 dekr b tm kch ni ukhaar paoge
@AdityaKadamMechanical
@AdityaKadamMechanical 6 жыл бұрын
Bhagavad Gita: 4.13 चातुर्वर्ण्यं मया सृष्टं गुणकर्मविभागश: | तस्य कर्तारमपि मां विद्ध्यकर्तारमव्ययम् || Translation The four categories of occupations were created by me according to people’s qualities and activities. Although I am the creator of this system, know me to be the non-doer and eternal. Current system on the basis of birth is dangerous.
@ashokvijay1144
@ashokvijay1144 2 жыл бұрын
It means they were created by GOD .. so a person is made shudra or Brahmin by god meaning born .. what was the ceremony which decided who was shudra or Brahmin after a certain age of karmas
@watawonderfulworld
@watawonderfulworld 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know who Y Sudershan Rao is, but I won't be surprised if he turns out to be Brahmin. Only a Brahmin or a Kshatriya or a brainwashed backward caste person can glorify caste system. Clearly such a caste system mustn't have been developed by Shudras. It must have been a brainchild of Brahmins. It's an animal instinct: you do everything to protect your power. It was developed so that one community could stay in power by keeping majority of the people out of it. What a trick Brahmins used, maan gaye bhai.
@Ashoke141
@Ashoke141 6 жыл бұрын
The privileged castes also plagiarized assortment of good philosophical work and introducing mala fide modifications . Very similar like Caliphate Uthman did to edit, textualise and freeze the Qu'ran. And they published the Geeta. Further, they have also attributed the whole work as the saying of Krishna Yadav, a blue complexioned alien. Any kindergarten kid would laugh learning that the entire text was orally delivered in a do-or-die battlefield. Just an example of its use. A rich landlord is saying to his hapless poor bonded labourer. That in the previous birth the former was like the later. By working hard for free in last birth, he has amassed such wealth in this birth. So the bonded labour must follow: "कर्मणये वाधिकारस्ते मां फलेषु कदाचन । मां कर्मफलहेतुर्भू: मांते संङगोस्त्वकर्मणि" ।।
@Abhishek-wb1xh
@Abhishek-wb1xh 6 жыл бұрын
Brahmano dwaara bhramano ke liye caste system
@bs12984
@bs12984 6 жыл бұрын
watawonderfulworld hindus mein caste system hai hi nahi.. ye tum katuo ko shudra varna ko islam mein convert karna tha isiliye caste system ghusaya.. ved mein jo jo kaam karta hai wahi uska varna hai.. kahan janma hai usse koi lena dena nahi hai..
@watawonderfulworld
@watawonderfulworld 6 жыл бұрын
+Baba, ye caste system chaturvarna ki hi den he jise Savarkar ne bhi 'grand failed experiment' bataya tha. jo bura he, bura he, maan lo. khamiyon ko accept karna is the first step to eliminate them. don't glorify / justify / paraphrase / turn blind eye to it.
@dbcube
@dbcube 6 жыл бұрын
why you have jail in modern world? isn't called modern cast system?
@hemlatadas1204
@hemlatadas1204 4 жыл бұрын
Caste system is not part of Hindu culture,only Varna h Jo ki ability based h,
@baldewprasad4768
@baldewprasad4768 4 жыл бұрын
प्रोफेसर सिन्हा का कहना कि भगवान राम राहुल की तरह किसी दलित के यहाँ खाने नही गए थे।किंतु वहीँ राम के सामने ही लक्ष्मण ने शबरी के फल नहीं खाये बल्कि उसे उन्हीं राम के सामने ही फेंक दिया।और राम ने एक शब्द भी लक्ष्मण को कुछ नही नहीं कहा ।राम का कार्य दिखावा नहीं तो क्या था।
@mtmovie3319
@mtmovie3319 4 жыл бұрын
Chutiye raaj parivaar se aane ke karan unhe accha nhi laga,yha par amir gaarib ki baat thi jati ki nhi 😆😆😆
@anu7104
@anu7104 3 жыл бұрын
Pgla isliye ni Kaye kyuki jhoota the Khana ur uski marzi h kaye ki lol.
@imsarojkumar14
@imsarojkumar14 5 жыл бұрын
Sare karmkand gupt kal me hua modikal jaisa
@abhilekhbagade2233
@abhilekhbagade2233 5 жыл бұрын
सुदर्शन जी इंग्लिश इसलिए बोल रहे है क्योकि उनकी फट रही है
@akhilchandra1876
@akhilchandra1876 4 жыл бұрын
THIS IS HOW A DEBATE SHOULD BE CONDUCTED. THIS IS HOW A GUEST SHOULD BE RESPECTED REGARDLESS OF THEIR VIEW POINT. I HOPE THE SO CALLED JOURNALISTS OF 2020 SEE AND LEARN FROM THIS.
@ramprakashchowdhary4607
@ramprakashchowdhary4607 4 жыл бұрын
There are no history of Ramayan, Mahabharata, Geeta, Puranas, Vedas and Manuscript etc. Examples are also not suitable for the History.
@microworldbunny8049
@microworldbunny8049 5 жыл бұрын
The Backbone of Democracy - Ravish Kumar
@BharatSingh-xp8jq
@BharatSingh-xp8jq 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Rao is not honest to history and culture of85% indian people of sudra in thought he is the manubadi castiest person
@mohammadishrafil2611
@mohammadishrafil2611 5 жыл бұрын
Raw is not historian.he is only brahman
@RajendraSingh-dq3gb
@RajendraSingh-dq3gb 2 жыл бұрын
राकेश सिन्हा जी की बात से मैं सहमत हूँ।
@broken_forever4435
@broken_forever4435 2 жыл бұрын
Who are these people... Even manusmriti give right to education to all including kshudras.... Manusmriti also says about varnas are defined by character and gunas. It never ever uttars the word jati.
@PankajSingh-bp7wt
@PankajSingh-bp7wt 6 жыл бұрын
आजकल कोई भी जाति का वयक्ति अपनी मर्जी से कोई भी कार्य चुन सकता है। जाति आज की राजनीति और मिडिया की जरूरत मात्र है
@kamartaj3010
@kamartaj3010 5 жыл бұрын
Pankaj Singh sharm karo jhut mat bol.sewer me utro na fir uppercaste waha lowercaste hi kyu yaad ata h
@wanderlustwanderer9258
@wanderlustwanderer9258 5 жыл бұрын
Shadi kar sakta h
@dodololo5586
@dodololo5586 5 жыл бұрын
but metality pehle ke log apne baccho me phir vo apne baccho me transfer kar rahe hain uska kya sir ji.
@ganeshtarate7558
@ganeshtarate7558 5 жыл бұрын
पूजा पाठ नही कर सकता
@SantoshKumar-uy2tn
@SantoshKumar-uy2tn 4 жыл бұрын
Your mind set is just Priggish castist person. U don,t want to know the situation of caste system in our socity. U just want skip to this issue and remain system as it is. Shame on it and help the socity to out from caste system so as to grow up of country and socity equalize.
@believe8980
@believe8980 3 жыл бұрын
B R Ambedkar read the mistranslated script by Max Muller....Indian manuscripts were not religious at all but of knowledge. More research should be done.
@vippartis
@vippartis 3 жыл бұрын
Rajivi Malhotra and Gurumurthy , both well red persons from RSS wants to attribute that only Lord Wesley brought caste system in india. How misleading is there version? Manu and Vedas which extensively talked on the caste system in Hinduism born centuries before Wesley. Instead of admitting flaws in caste system ,the RSS wants to win so called lower castes just by throwing blame on the others. Only those Manuvadis, the people launging for Sanathan dharma likes the RSS and BJPs diversion tactics..
@user-kd8pr4zr4i
@user-kd8pr4zr4i 3 жыл бұрын
Which Vedas talks about Caste system?😑
@user-kd8pr4zr4i
@user-kd8pr4zr4i 3 жыл бұрын
It's varn system in dharmsutras
@abhilashb.9126
@abhilashb.9126 5 жыл бұрын
Who else finds Mr chandarbhan sir cute?? I just watched him for whole of the debate. Loved his style too. Also reaction of ravish from 5.25 to 5.30 is priceless 😀
@eatright131
@eatright131 5 жыл бұрын
New generation should abolish cast system.give your Intro by your initial name only.go for more and more intercast and out of religion marriages.visit regularly other's religious places.
@Happiness.789
@Happiness.789 5 жыл бұрын
Even second and third generation Americans born Indian do follow caste system rigidly. So no hope.
@sameeryadav4333
@sameeryadav4333 4 жыл бұрын
in ancient time it was not caste system it was varna system
@ex009adityarajsingh2
@ex009adityarajsingh2 3 жыл бұрын
@@sameeryadav4333 doesn't matter anything which depends on birth must be removed
@naghmad139
@naghmad139 4 жыл бұрын
Harijan children were not allowed in schools gurukuls..when Christians started schools India got educated
@bhimrock5112
@bhimrock5112 5 жыл бұрын
सुदर्शन राव जैसा आदमी को इतिहासकार नहीं होना चाहिए बल्कि इसे अपना मानसिक इलाज करवाना चाहिए
@yogeshkumarleuva4147
@yogeshkumarleuva4147 5 жыл бұрын
Bhim Rock फिर भी ये लोग चिल्लाते हैं की Reservation must be Economical standard. अब इस राव को देखलो History जानता नहीं फिर Chairman बन गया। ये Reservation इनको हजारों सालों से मिला है। JAI BHIM
@FollowersOfPrabhupada
@FollowersOfPrabhupada 8 жыл бұрын
Mr. Rao, you should quote Srimad BhagvadGita... "Caturvarnam Maya Srishtim GUNA KARMA VIBHAGASA". 4 Varans comes from Guna - qualities and Karma- Activities. By birth everybody is sudra.. means in ignorance.. based on the aptitude of the individuals they become one caste or other.
@chiragmoily5802
@chiragmoily5802 8 жыл бұрын
+Ram Nangunoori whom are you teaching this things. Irrelevant and ignorant people.
@DipakBose-bq1vv
@DipakBose-bq1vv 8 жыл бұрын
+Ram Nangunoori "By birth everybody is sudra" Bhagwat Gita or Rig Veda which describes the Varnas never said that. Varna system is not caste.
@seemana26
@seemana26 8 жыл бұрын
Bhagvad geeta was written after Buddha periods hence it talks about equality, (Buddhism was a dominant religion) Manusmriti was a civil code, how society should function , hence they are discussing manusmriti The origination of Varna system is in Hindu religion where your religion states everyone is born unequal ..now you get the logic? Don't bring Bhagvad geeta every time, that wasn't civil code, or eternal laws, Everyone knows Bhagvad geeta has a influence of Buddhism
@FollowersOfPrabhupada
@FollowersOfPrabhupada 8 жыл бұрын
Seemana Mahale It is stated in the Skanda Purana, 'kalau sudra sambhavah' - in Kali-yuga everyone is basically a sudra. It is only by brahminical qualifications and acceptance of panca-samskara diksa from Sri Guru that one can actually attain the status of a brahmana in the age of Kali. Therefore, the Mahabharata states: na yonir napi samskaro na srutam na ca santatih karanani dvijatvasya vrttam eva tu karanam "Neither birth, nor samskaras, nor learning, nor progeny are the qualifications to be a brahmana. Only brahminical conduct is the basis for brahminical status." (Anusasana-parva 143.50)
@gunzogunzo6959
@gunzogunzo6959 8 жыл бұрын
Just shut up. Who the hell are you to judge the people? B.Gita teaches that these are "innate" qualities (read it as when born) and that it comes from previous birth. This is the cruelty. People had simply no fighting chance at all. Whatever you wrote is from a casteist's manual and Krishna (and you) are the casteists apologists.
@viswaghosh1
@viswaghosh1 8 жыл бұрын
Rao answers exactly like the Republicans - "my opinion" has no place in scientific research. Rao needs to present evidence to show that it worked well. Also present counter evidences and explain why we should disregard those counter evidences.
@chiragsharma5050
@chiragsharma5050 Жыл бұрын
Why because he is saying their is no castism In ancient time .
@chiragsharma5050
@chiragsharma5050 Жыл бұрын
He was a director of ihrc.which is top most position for historical research
@poonamsharma-ot6jp
@poonamsharma-ot6jp 2 жыл бұрын
अपने दिमाग से सोचना छोड़ दिया रवीश।
@raj-nz4bj
@raj-nz4bj 5 жыл бұрын
Whether caste system was good or not. Really does it matter. What matters is, it should be finished by now.
@lazarjosephc5915
@lazarjosephc5915 5 жыл бұрын
Not only misinterpreted but also mis utilised over the ages.
@wasimshaikh1665
@wasimshaikh1665 5 жыл бұрын
Rakesh Sinha back then was a rational human being. Now he is just a BJP spoke person
@WBSchoolOfMaths
@WBSchoolOfMaths 2 жыл бұрын
It is very unfortunate that Gandhi ji supported Caste system.
@mikesheth5370
@mikesheth5370 4 жыл бұрын
Brits brought caste system untouchability and even forged the humanitarian proclamation document called Manusmriti!!!
@antimanhero4586
@antimanhero4586 5 жыл бұрын
Rao is a brahman that is why he is pleading and praising varan a system.
@vinodukey6049
@vinodukey6049 10 жыл бұрын
I hate this attitude , every one is trying to present their religion the best why should you tell other to accept your religion. Let them which they want to follow .we should tell every human just follow humanity .keep your religion at home.long live humanity
@yogimoviemaniac
@yogimoviemaniac 9 жыл бұрын
You are the only one i have found here who is not talking bullshit.
@darali568
@darali568 5 жыл бұрын
True
@william62922
@william62922 4 жыл бұрын
Caste system divided the human.. Like the difference of animal.. Remove caste system and be like human.
@jitendraverma4859
@jitendraverma4859 6 жыл бұрын
A Brahmin should recite the Gayatri mantra if he speaks to a Dalit or walks on a path touched by the feet of Dalits. He becomes impure even if he *sees* a Dalit, he should immediately look at the Sun / Savitaṛ to purify himself Parashara Dharma, a code of conduct for Kali Yuga:
@anilkumar-gk7uj
@anilkumar-gk7uj 5 жыл бұрын
VishavaMohan jha have good humour communication skill knowledge👌
@Rajeevkumar85
@Rajeevkumar85 7 жыл бұрын
Aarakshan khatam krna hai to sabse pahle jaat-paat khatam kro, Desh ke har nagrik ko saman rup se jamin ka batwara kr do, desh ka hr wo nagrik jo padha-likha ho or ved puran padha ho ya padhne ki ichha ho use v moka do or mandir me us nagrik ko v pujari banne ka moka do. agar wo SC st cast ka ho or fir v ved padh sakta ho. sanskrit padh sakta ho to use v sankracharya ya fir koi bada mahant bnne ka moka do. jaat- paat khatam kro, bhed-bhav khatam kro. sabko barabar bhago me jamin ka batwara kro. uske baad aarakshan khatam krne ki baat krna !...
@PremSingh-qx9zc
@PremSingh-qx9zc 5 жыл бұрын
भाई जब तक भूतकाल को पकडे रखोगे तो आप वर्तमान और भविष्य का कुछ भी सोच नहीं सकते और न ही आप समझ सकते हो
@PremSingh-qx9zc
@PremSingh-qx9zc 5 жыл бұрын
चींटी दो तरह की होती हैं एक लाल और दूसरी काली ऐसे ही हमारे भारत के नेता हैं? एक आप का अनाज खाती है और एक आपका जिसम ........?अब आपको समझना है के आप् को किसे चुनना है .....?
@biebersucks27
@biebersucks27 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with everything except land re distribution
@khargonekestar4228
@khargonekestar4228 4 жыл бұрын
Dr अम्बेडकर हिन्दू की जाती और वर्ण व्यवस्था पर सवाल उठाते हैं लेकिन खुद उन्होंने संविधान में st sc obc and ganral cast ka फार्मूला दे कर जाती प्रथा को बढ़ाया है
@Travel_for_Self
@Travel_for_Self 4 жыл бұрын
Agar kisine cast system ko braya hain toh boh brahmin hai
@rathodsandeep4550
@rathodsandeep4550 4 жыл бұрын
Manusmuriti me manu ne banavya he
@anu7104
@anu7104 3 жыл бұрын
Shi bat
@jogeshkachari880
@jogeshkachari880 Жыл бұрын
Those who condemn India and Indian culture, loyal to the West get international awards.
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