Indian Mathematical Olympiad | 1992 Question 8

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Michael Penn

Michael Penn

4 жыл бұрын

We present a solution to question 8 form the 1992 Indian Mathematical Olympiad. The goal of this question is to classify all perfect squares of the form 2^m+3^n.
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@setupchess6288
@setupchess6288 4 жыл бұрын
This man used the entire alphabet to solve this problem. Great work
@seanleith5312
@seanleith5312 4 жыл бұрын
Indian though, it is like half African. Hardest math question in African, what would that be?
@AbirInsights
@AbirInsights 4 жыл бұрын
@@krishna-vb4ok India is the place where people literally worship cow.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbirInsights Hindus do not worship cows, but a majority refuse to eat all meat, including beef. Cows play a central role in the history of Indian husbandry and culture (indeed, it is perhaps impossible to have a complex society without large domestic animals), and dairy products like milk and fresh cheese are staples of their diet. So the refusal to slaughter cows (which offer more alive in the long run) is seen as a first step toward Hindu vegetarianism, which is based on a principle of non-violence and belief in the soul of every living thing. So over time we have seen cows increasingly venerated in Hindu society, and they are important in certain Hindu celebrations. But no Hindu believes cows are divine in any sense or "better than people" or anything like that, and they do not worship them. Other Indian religions like Jainism also promote vegetarianism and have varying levels of respect for cows, but none of them include worship of cows. The special place cows have in Indian society is perhaps in some ways analogous to the special place dogs have in Western society, where people typically find the slaughter of dogs for meat as far more repugnant than of other animals. The reasons are different (cows aren't pets in the same way as dogs), but the result is the same.
@heh2393
@heh2393 3 жыл бұрын
@@EebstertheGreat Thanks for that much needed clarification
@namdeokhawle5912
@namdeokhawle5912 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbirInsights I didn't know people has this kind of myth about India set in their mind.
@usptact
@usptact 3 жыл бұрын
I almost ran out of my stack memory trying to follow this.
@3manthing
@3manthing 4 жыл бұрын
Each time, i see the problem of your video, i sit back and think to mayself: I wonder, how is he gonna tackle this one. And at the end of the every video, i see that i have much to learn. Well done.☺
@BharathReddy98349
@BharathReddy98349 4 жыл бұрын
You just cracked the code to get more views.
@Banzybanz
@Banzybanz 4 жыл бұрын
Put a big flag on the thumbnail and watch the nationalists arrive.
@stv3qbhxjnmmqbw835
@stv3qbhxjnmmqbw835 4 жыл бұрын
@@Banzybanz no, he hid the square term. I just came to look at the question, but ended up watching the whole video. If I had seen the question, I wouldn't click on it because I knew the answer already, but didn't knew the proof.
@dipeshpatil2771
@dipeshpatil2771 4 жыл бұрын
@@stv3qbhxjnmmqbw835 he didn't hid the square term instead of writing "square" he symbolized square as ■
@AbirInsights
@AbirInsights 4 жыл бұрын
@Tangent of circle. Nationalist have no place in the modern world,All the Extremist party are nationalist,Free Kashmir
@AbirInsights
@AbirInsights 4 жыл бұрын
@Tangent of circle. Lol you have to be trolling?Nobody with alt right views would come open and tell that their Extrimist if you are really a nationalist then you can take the middle finger of mine,Stupid nationalist modick suppoter
@jerry3790
@jerry3790 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if I watch enough of these I’ll actually be able to answer one in a contest
@samb5017
@samb5017 4 жыл бұрын
A slightly quicker way to show that m is even is to note that 2 = -1 (mod 3) , so 2^m = (-1)^m = 1 (mod 3) => m is even
@jogeshgupta7583
@jogeshgupta7583 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael penn for making a video on a question from Indian mathematical Olympiad...NAMASTE
@jogeshgupta7583
@jogeshgupta7583 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael for responding
@elyades2480
@elyades2480 4 жыл бұрын
Hello again ! I love the way you explain these, it makes the audience feel smart thanks to your unconventional teaching. Keep it up !
@hopegarden7636
@hopegarden7636 4 жыл бұрын
The more I'm exploring your videos on modulo arithmetic the more I'm falling in love with this again...😄
@Trueman571
@Trueman571 3 жыл бұрын
You took 22 minutes, when probably you already knew the answer. How much time these Olympiad guys would have took when they don't know the answers already. I find this one crazyyyyy
@narutofan8261
@narutofan8261 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly this one is a little tougher than the general one
@user-nd5ib4vh3z
@user-nd5ib4vh3z 2 жыл бұрын
Usually 8th and 4th (last problems per day) are ether takes half of time or none depending on can you solve it or not I think there just above 4 hours per day so like 1,5 hours on solving and 0,5 on writing or viseversa. Anderstending can you solve it or not is the hardest and most important part, and if you can solve it you should know if you can find a way to solve it in rational time. You don't have to solve everything you just need to solve most.
@user-nd5ib4vh3z
@user-nd5ib4vh3z 2 жыл бұрын
Also tbh it pretty easy problem, I think there must be 5 problems per day and it is 3rd per second day (basically last is coffin hard and 2nd from the end is just tough, so you should just take others as free ones) it also seems that 2^0+3^1=2^2 is a solution too, but I may missed the term in technical English that is for natural numbers and another for whole numbers starting from 0 In second case there probably family of roots where power of 2 is just 0 so we need to insure that there is fixed amount of this solutions (2^0 is 1 base 4, that may cause something in second part of solving to go wrong, basically can reduce amount of points for number by half) I think it easyly fixable with this solving, even if I am right, but most likely I just missed a word in problem (such missunderstanding cost me a lot..)
@user-nd5ib4vh3z
@user-nd5ib4vh3z 2 жыл бұрын
I actually wrong m, n are natural, so it is absolutely clear done number. I just focused on my solution a bit to much
@matthewstevens340
@matthewstevens340 4 жыл бұрын
Nice solution. This was also a question in the secomd round of the British Mathematical Olympiad in 1996
@ProfOmarMath
@ProfOmarMath 4 жыл бұрын
I received a request for a problem from this very exam! I might put a card to your video as a shout out.
@MichaelPennMath
@MichaelPennMath 4 жыл бұрын
I got lots of requests for this problem. Everyone seems to really like it!
@jatloe
@jatloe 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelPennMath Yea, I really enjoyed how you get to do the same thing over and over to solve the problem :)
@amircanto5416
@amircanto5416 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the way you can transform the ideas into math in very clever ways. Enjoy your content
@ryanyang3347
@ryanyang3347 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Problem! This ones a great example of the common technique of using differences of squares in solving exponential diophantine problems.
@tracyh5751
@tracyh5751 4 жыл бұрын
17:21 Another way to see this is that 3^i and 3^j are two powers of 3 with a difference of only 2. This only occurs when i=1 and j=0.
@Packerfan130
@Packerfan130 4 жыл бұрын
That's how I figured it!
@erikb3799
@erikb3799 3 жыл бұрын
Or he could stop at 16:30 by noticing no two powers of 3 are separated by 2, besides 3^0 and 3^1. The solution in the hint is the smallest solution.
@Simio_Da_Tundra
@Simio_Da_Tundra 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikb3799 and only solution
@michaelgoh9439
@michaelgoh9439 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! The explanation flows so naturally!
@onlinecircuitsimulation8774
@onlinecircuitsimulation8774 4 жыл бұрын
First step is to prove both m,n are even. Which makes that is a Pythagorean triplet. So let m=2k,n=2p. also we have 2st=2^k , where s is even and t is odd, but the last equation forces t=1 and s=2^y. Also 3^p=2^{2y}-1. Note that the RHS is factorizable, so just have to consider few cases.
@Packerfan130
@Packerfan130 4 жыл бұрын
That's how I solved it! Great approach
@AnkhArcRod
@AnkhArcRod 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. That is exactly how I solved it too.
@Bolut45
@Bolut45 3 жыл бұрын
Great work. Just discovered this KZfaq channel. I'm subscribing right away.
@Thiago-kb4bu
@Thiago-kb4bu 4 жыл бұрын
Try this one : Brazilian Mathematical Olympiad (OBM) 2019 Problem 3 Level 3
@MichaelPennMath
@MichaelPennMath 4 жыл бұрын
I'll put it on the list.
@samuelleite7488
@samuelleite7488 4 жыл бұрын
Bom ver um companheiro brasileiro aqui kkkk fiz a obm ano passado mas real essa tava difícil
@djvalentedochp
@djvalentedochp 4 жыл бұрын
Bom saber q n sou o único
@Daniel_Lopes_13
@Daniel_Lopes_13 4 жыл бұрын
Tive dificuldade até pra entender essa questão no dia
@TheAbelPower
@TheAbelPower 4 жыл бұрын
Boa sugestão parceiro, vou esperar ansioso pela solução dessa questão
@EpicMathTime
@EpicMathTime 4 жыл бұрын
It says I am subscribed to you, but I swear this is the first time I'm seeing you. You're awesome.
@johngreen3543
@johngreen3543 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thats a real masters level problem and that solution reminds me of my Number Theory class taken in 1969. Great piece of logic
@garari4466
@garari4466 4 жыл бұрын
Great problem as always! There's a little simplification: at 12:46 we can notice c+d=2a. With this fact we can immediately conclude from d=1 that c is odd and so c-1 is even (without referring modulo 3), and also when we find at 18:52 that c=3 we can immediately say that a = (c+d)/2 = 4/2 = 2. Since at that moment we also determine that b=1, the rest of the solution becomes trivial.
@tranbachnguyen5108
@tranbachnguyen5108 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, First of all, thanks Micheal for this video which makes me kinda fall in love again with Math. Then I have a suggestion to simplify the solution (sorry if this was mentioned before) : Let's go from 10:54. We have 3^(2b) = x^2 - 2^(2a) = (x-2^a)(x+2^a). Using the same strategy in the video we get x+2^a = 3^p (1) and x-2^a = 3^q (2), with p>q and p+q = 2b. Substract (1) by (2) gives us: 3^p - 3^q = 2^(a+1). Here we easily see that q = 0 (otherwise 2^(a+1) divisible by 3), so we go directly to the point that 3^(2b) = 2^(a+1) +1. Similarly as above we got something like 2^u - 2^v =2 Or 2^(u-1) - 2^(v-1) =1 with u+v = a+1. It goes easy from here!!! We got v-1=0 so v=1 and u=2 then a= 2 and b=1.
@paerrin
@paerrin 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best at math. I’ve learned a lot of new stuff in your videos. Thanks again for such great videos. Btw. Hi from Thailand :)
@Saki630
@Saki630 4 жыл бұрын
Damn he took three hours out his life to solve this for us. It would be awesome to solve it with shapes and not all the maths
@mathbbn2676
@mathbbn2676 4 жыл бұрын
The teacher's teaching is very good, it is very good to talk about how to solve these problems. Students need to follow his teaching. If this is not followed, it may not be possible to understand No. Mathematics is difficult, but even harder, you have to learn
@stardust6773
@stardust6773 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! I'm so happy I was able to follow and understand the resolution to the end :) , I think I'm beginning to get to grips with modular arithmetic.
@tanishdesaitd9988
@tanishdesaitd9988 4 жыл бұрын
Putnam 2002 Problem B5 A base b palindrome is an integer which is the same when read backwards in base b. For example, 200 is not a palindrome in base 10, but it is a palindrome in base 9 (242) and base 7 (404). Show that there is an integer which for at least 2002 values of b has three digits and is a palindrome. Try this
@joaosousapinto3614
@joaosousapinto3614 3 жыл бұрын
Super fun problem, and great presentation! Once you show that the perfect square needs to be of the form 4^a + 9^b, there's another approach that's perhaps less elementary but simpler. Namely, (2^a, 3^b, sqrt(4^a + 3^b)) is a primitive (i.e. all co-prime) Pythagorean triplet, so it must hold that 2^a = 2mn and 3^b = m^2 - n^2 for some m > n (thanks Euclid!). This implies both m and n are powers of 2, and that n = 1 (since 3^b is odd); from that, m=2^(a - 1) follows. So we must have 3^b = 2^(2*(a - 1)) - 1 = (2^(a - 1) + 1)(2^(a - 1) - 1), so both factors are powers of 3 and differ by 2, so they must be 3 and 1 respectively, implying a = 2. Finally, 3^b = 3 implies b = 1.
@skrubbypatty5763
@skrubbypatty5763 3 жыл бұрын
The explanation was so detail ! Thanks and good job
@Daniel-nl3ug
@Daniel-nl3ug 4 жыл бұрын
When you did the step at 3:37, this is only true if n > 0. There is one solution when n = 0, which is (m,n) = (3,0). Later there was a similar thing reducing mod 4 which relies on m > 0, and when m = 0 there is the solution (m,n) = (0, 1). "Natural numbers" is a slightly ambiguous term. Some people consider 0 to be natural and others don't. If the olympiad paper said natural numbers on it then I would suggest including these solutions as well and mentioning that they are only valid if 0 is considered a natural number. However, in the olympiads I've done, I can't think of a time when the phrase natural numbers was use. Instead they normally write "positive integers" when they don't want 0 included, and write "non negative integers" when 0 is included, and this way it is not ambiguous.
@SV-yo6nq
@SV-yo6nq 4 жыл бұрын
Well, actually, if we look at the wording used on the official test paper, it says 'positive integers' only, not natural numbers(you can check on AOPS), really unsure why michael changed the wording
@TechToppers
@TechToppers 4 жыл бұрын
Can't agree with you Daniel. I studied always that the set of natural numbers start from 1 and go on and on.
@frankie391
@frankie391 4 жыл бұрын
Tech Toppers i'm with Daniel, set of natural numbers N starts at 0, and set N* starts at 1. I think that we shouldn't use the terms natural numbers, because each country has their different definition for that.
@exacerbated
@exacerbated 4 жыл бұрын
The standard ISO definition has 0 as a natural number. The set theoretic construction of the natural numbers requires 0. Almost all modern number theorists regard 0 as natural. The Indian examiners who set the paper said ‘positive integers’ . Yet here we are again,
@asamanthinketh5944
@asamanthinketh5944 3 жыл бұрын
@@exacerbated no , I was taught zero is no natural numbers
@rdbchase
@rdbchase 4 жыл бұрын
Worked your way through a third of the alphabet on this one -- reusing "a", "b", "i", and "j".
@RaZorasiangamer
@RaZorasiangamer Жыл бұрын
For the part around 6:00, we can just reduce 2^m mod 3 as (-1)^m, which is even iff m is even
@IAmTheFuhrminator
@IAmTheFuhrminator 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I thought this would be an easy proof at the start. I was wrong! While it maybe wasn't too difficult, you had better be fluent in modulo math! Great job!
@ethancheung1676
@ethancheung1676 4 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing the modulo is the mvp here
@speedsterh
@speedsterh 3 жыл бұрын
Superbly explained. Thank you for your videos
@vidyanandwagh6277
@vidyanandwagh6277 4 жыл бұрын
Elegantly solved! Thank you for the great video :)
@harrysakata3082
@harrysakata3082 4 жыл бұрын
No need to do the mod 3 on 3^b = 2^(c-1) -1 because c-1 = 2a-2 and we can see that it's even. And then no need to introduce k. Also, once you have the equation in terms of a and b, it turns out to be a bit cleaner to go to 3^(2b) = (X+2^a)(X-2^a) rather than the other way round.
@yashagnihotri6901
@yashagnihotri6901 4 жыл бұрын
I really loved your approach towards the question. Can you suggest how do I develop such a thought process akin to your's ??
@mridulsachdeva
@mridulsachdeva 4 жыл бұрын
I actually feel that this would have a better/elegant solution than just doing the same thing again and again
@ethancheung1676
@ethancheung1676 4 жыл бұрын
as an engineer, i think it is in fact more elegant to solve it using the same thing again and again
@michaildokianakis5725
@michaildokianakis5725 4 жыл бұрын
It's insane to solve it in an exam. Who would have the sanity levels to really believe that this approach is going somewhere and spend precious time of the exam? If there is no elegant solution, I guess no one would invest time to try it.
@vishalbhatsoori168
@vishalbhatsoori168 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaildokianakis5725 If it was asked in olympiad in INMO or International Maths Olympiad then they will have 3 hours for 6 questions
@Daniel-nl3ug
@Daniel-nl3ug 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaildokianakis5725 I think the solution presented is pretty similar to what most people sitting this who manage to solve it would come up with. If you have some experience at doing Olympiad questions, one of the main skills you pick up is the skill of being able to quickly tell if a particular approach is likely to work. In this case I think if you're about imo bronze level then it's pretty easy to tell this kind of method would work, without even having to get out some paper to make some notes. Personally if I was doing this question, I'd do it the following way, which is similar to the way in the video but just a little different (this proof is pretty close to what I'd write for an Olympiad, only thing I'd change is remove the comments in brackets and add a little detail about how to trace back the steps). First let x^2 = 2^m + 3^n. If m = 0 then by Mihailescu's theorem, this has no solutions if n > 1. (If you don't want to use Mihailescu's, then instead the factorisation (x - 1)(x + 1) = 3^n can be used). Then you just need to check whether n = 0 or 1 are solutions, and we find that the only solution for m = 0 is 2^0 + 3^1 = 4. If m = 1 then we get x^2 = 2 + 3^n. There are no solutions for n > 0 because this would imply x^2 is 2 mod 3. Clearly n = 0 is also not a solution. Therefore there are no solutions for m = 1. The last case is when m is greater than or equal to 2. In this case by using mod 4 we find that n is even, so let n = 2a. Then we can write the equation as x^2 = 2^m + 3^2a => (x - 3^a)(x + 3^a) = 2^m. Then let x - 3^a = 2^y and x + 3^a = 2^z. By subtracting these we then find that 2(3^a) = 2^z - 2^y and then dividing both sides by two gives 3^a = 2^(z-1) - 2^(y-1). Note that y = 1 otherwise the right hand side is even, whilst the left is clearly odd. Therefore this equation can be written as 3^a = 2^(z-1) - 1. If a = 0 then we get the solution 3^0 = 2^(2-1) - 1 and then tracing back the steps, this yields the solution 2^3 + 3^0 = 9. If a = 1 then this gives the solution 3 = 2^(3-1) - 1 and tracing back some steps gives the solution 2^4 + 3^2 = 25. If a > 1 then the equation has no solutions by Mihailescu's theorem (again you can avoid Mihailescu's if you want by using a factorisation). So overall it's not too hard to come up with and not too hard to realise beforehand that the method will work. It involves a lot of very standard tricks which make it pretty easy to do if you know them. One trick is to deal with small cases first in order to use some modulo arithmetic and the other main trick is using difference of two squares factorisation a lot. Using Mihailescu's theorem is also handy to make the written proof a little bit shorter, but not knowing it probably wouldn't hinder you too much in finding a proof. Overall if you have a fair bit of experience then a question like this might take a few minutes to solve, and then a little while longer to write up a proof, maybe 15-20 minutes, but in most Olympiads this is a very reasonable amount of time, and in fact it probably wouldn't be a problem to spend a while longer than that, even an hour or two working on the question probably would be fine in an olympiad. In the international mathematical Olympiad, you get 4h30 to solve 3 questions, but a significant proportion of people only solve 1 question.
@SouthOfHeaven97
@SouthOfHeaven97 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful solution! very creative.
@kurt.dresner
@kurt.dresner 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your videos. I've never seen equations reduced by modular arithmetic before, is there a good source for more information on this? Can you make a video about it?
@joygodwinwilliamhenry406
@joygodwinwilliamhenry406 4 жыл бұрын
Please try Indian math olympiad 2020 problem 2.would be excited to know that you have put it one your list
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 4 жыл бұрын
This is an elegant solution to a beautiful problem. However, I believe it can shortened somewhat. At 13:01, we have 4^a=2^c.2^d, so 2a=c+d (this relation was not noted). On the other hand, at 14:17, we have d=1. So once we find c=3 at 18:52 we get 2a=3+1=4, a=2. So the working to find a from 19:34 to 21:30 is not really needed.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x 3 жыл бұрын
10:28 It seems a simpler way to check that is that 3^(2b+1) cannot be divided into equal factors 3^x times 3^y with x+y=2b+1 , since one of these factors will have at least one factor of three more than the other: 2b+1 is odd and thus not divisible by two. Edit: then again, this would interrupt the flow of the video, so it might not be as good.
@ghalikhalil8367
@ghalikhalil8367 3 жыл бұрын
7:30 by saying that 4^a is congruent to 0 modulo 4 you don't take into account the case where a=0 (4^0=1 is congruent to 1 mod 4). This case gives another solution m=0 and n=1 (2^0+3^1=1+3=4=2^2)
@ghalikhalil8367
@ghalikhalil8367 3 жыл бұрын
and the same goes for when n=0, another possible solution is m=3,n=0 (2^3+3^0=8+1=9=3^2)
@to2podemosaprender630
@to2podemosaprender630 4 жыл бұрын
I like this guy.... His teaching is so dynamic
@VedantArora
@VedantArora 4 жыл бұрын
I actually intuitioned that there would be only one when the pythagorean theorem came keeping in mind Fermat’s Last Theorem.
@zouhairnouri6863
@zouhairnouri6863 4 жыл бұрын
but you know that 's cheating isn't it
@NadellaVasishta
@NadellaVasishta 4 жыл бұрын
@@zouhairnouri6863 it's intuition as the person mentioned.. since we can't prove fermat's last theorem in the exam.. I think it's safe to assume that each component on the RHS can't be of power>2.. and from the video Pythageorean triplets visualised by 3blue1brown(awesome channel btw).. one can easily say one possible pair of m&n is possible..
@dev-divineenlightenmentvid3698
@dev-divineenlightenmentvid3698 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained 🙂🙂
@pauldhankin
@pauldhankin 3 жыл бұрын
around minute 18, it seems like if (2^k-1)(2^k+1) is a power of 3, then both factors are a power of 3, but the only powers of 3 that differ by 2 are 1 and 3. Same for 4^a+9=x^2 implies 4^a = (x-3)(x+3) and the only powers of 2 that differ by 6 are 2 and 8, so x=5. Seems a bit easier to me.
@juliensorel1427
@juliensorel1427 3 жыл бұрын
Taking n=p^1008 with p prime gives infinitely many examples of when this is happening (answering your tangential wondering )
@moonlightcocktail
@moonlightcocktail Жыл бұрын
Instead of the decomposing proof in the 3^a + 1= 2^(b), you can also show a < 2 then work on the remaining a cases. If a >= 2, 3^a+ 1 > 8 is a power of 2 > 8, so 8| 3^a + 1. But 3^a + 1 is always 2 or 4 mod 8.
@PCMPartner
@PCMPartner 4 жыл бұрын
Love your explanation
@gbporto9701
@gbporto9701 4 жыл бұрын
Really great, thank you!!
@stanisawmalinski4820
@stanisawmalinski4820 3 жыл бұрын
WoW so far the best solution I have ever seen
@athesus3684
@athesus3684 2 жыл бұрын
Very nicely explained!
@fabriziocaragiulo4812
@fabriziocaragiulo4812 4 жыл бұрын
Once we know that c-1 equals to 2 (around 19:00) there's no need to explicit c, I think.
@sea34101
@sea34101 4 жыл бұрын
There are other solutions. You need to look at the edge cases m=0 and n=0. (0 is in ℕ, so it is a solution to consider). 2^0 + 3^1 = 4 = 2*2 2^3 + 3^0 = 9 = 3*3
@MichaelPennMath
@MichaelPennMath 4 жыл бұрын
These are solutions of you consider 0 a natural number. I take the more standard definition that N is made up of positive integers.
@sea34101
@sea34101 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelPennMath Standard in the US ;o) In Europe, we have ℕ*={1,2,3... and ℕ={0,1,2...
@MichaelPennMath
@MichaelPennMath 4 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting and explains a lot when I see talks by Europeans. Anyway, the problem originally read "all positive integers". I shortened it to \in\N to take up less room on the board. Also, how do you get the \mathbb{N} ie the blackboard bold N in the comment?
@sea34101
@sea34101 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelPennMath This is a unicode symbol. I have a list of them on my phone ready to be copied/pasted. Here are a few: Fractions ⅟ ½ ⅓ ⅕ ⅙ ⅛ ⅔ ⅖ ⅚ ⅜ ¾ ⅗ ⅝ ⅞ ⅘ Die ⚀ ⚁ ⚂ ⚃ ⚄ ⚅ Chess ♔ ♕ ♖ ♗ ♘ ♙ ♚ ♛ ♜ ♝ ♞ ♟ Parallelograms ▱ ▰ ⏥ ⏢ Mathbb 𝕒 𝕓 𝕔 𝕕 𝕖 𝕗 𝕘 𝕙 𝕚 𝕛 𝕜 𝕝 𝕞 𝕟 𝕠 𝕡 𝕢 𝕣 𝕤 𝕥 𝕦 𝕧 𝕨 𝕩 𝕪 𝕫 𝔸 𝔹 ℂ 𝔻 𝔼 𝔽 𝔾 ℍ 𝕀 𝕁 𝕂 𝕃 𝕄 ℕ 𝕆 ℙ ℚ ℝ 𝕊 𝕋 𝕌 𝕍 𝕎 𝕏 𝕐 ℤ 𝟙 𝟚 𝟛 𝟜 𝟝 𝟞 𝟟 𝟠 𝟡 𝟘 You can easily find them (and many, many more) online, the thing is that websites and apps do not necessarily support all of them. I never used some of the ones I just copied/pasted on the YT comments section, so some funny characters might be displayed instead.
@sea34101
@sea34101 4 жыл бұрын
And for math formulas, I also have a list of things I wrote in the past: ∂f/∂t = ∂²f/∂x² ∀ x ∈ ℝ ∫ e⁻ᵗ dt
@Dumpy332
@Dumpy332 3 жыл бұрын
16:34 When he wrote 3^i , I thought it is becoming complex.
@Mathemagical55
@Mathemagical55 4 жыл бұрын
Once you have 2 = 3^i - 3^j it's immediately obvious that i = 1 and j = 0. How could any other powers of 3 (1, 3, 9, 27, 81, ...) be just two apart?
@muhammadsyifaurrohman2314
@muhammadsyifaurrohman2314 4 жыл бұрын
He just tell us the "mathematician's way" that can be used on the general problems
@thedoublehelix5661
@thedoublehelix5661 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is also a valid way, in fact its pretty elegant
@chhabisarkar9057
@chhabisarkar9057 4 жыл бұрын
Finally ! A question from my country's olympiad !!
@steveleekyon1212
@steveleekyon1212 4 жыл бұрын
Chabbi!!! Remember me?
@saminhaque13-52
@saminhaque13-52 4 жыл бұрын
Wooww!! Can't believe we met here. Chabbi, why did you disappear all of a sudden?
@chhabisarkar9057
@chhabisarkar9057 4 жыл бұрын
@@saminhaque13-52 what ??
@chhabisarkar9057
@chhabisarkar9057 4 жыл бұрын
@@steveleekyon1212 -_- I'm with u on plus lol
@chhabisarkar9057
@chhabisarkar9057 4 жыл бұрын
@@saminhaque13-52 what do u mean by disappear?
@kenahoo
@kenahoo 9 ай бұрын
It would be really nice to see a visualization of this, with the level sets of 2^m + 3^n (where m & n can be any non-negative *real* number, not just integers) at all perfect squares. These curves should only intersect exactly one lattice point, at (m, n) = (4, 2).
@shantanunene4389
@shantanunene4389 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Maybe you can do some problems involving quadratic residues next? eg: This problem- Find all positive integers x,y such that x^3+7=y^2
@johnnath4137
@johnnath4137 4 жыл бұрын
Quadratic residues and quadratic reiprocity are way beyond IMO maths.
@RaZorasiangamer
@RaZorasiangamer Жыл бұрын
Also, this is very similar to 2011 USAJMO problem 1, the exact moduli are used
@keepitplainsimple1466
@keepitplainsimple1466 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video as always.... ☺☺
@ScorpioneOrzion
@ScorpioneOrzion 4 жыл бұрын
with wolfram alpha with this as formula (2^m+3^n=o^2) it gave these answers m = 0, n = 1, o = ± 2 m = 3, n = 0, o = ± 3 m = 4, n = 2, o = ± 5
@kellyderango1929
@kellyderango1929 4 жыл бұрын
It seems like there is a connection from this problem to Fermat’s Last Theorem.
@Mrpallekuling
@Mrpallekuling 11 ай бұрын
Nice problem and nice solution!
@sagnikbandyopadhyay5993
@sagnikbandyopadhyay5993 4 жыл бұрын
Try this one: S_n={k\leq n | k^2 has a zero in its decimal representation } Find, limit n to infinity ( |S_n| / n) Where |A|= cardinality of set A
@filasko2747
@filasko2747 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Greetings from Poland!
@rubikson4518
@rubikson4518 4 жыл бұрын
Polacy, złączmy się tutaj xD
@iwokarnas2786
@iwokarnas2786 4 жыл бұрын
no siema
@alexandergretskiy5595
@alexandergretskiy5595 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@mathematicalmonk1427
@mathematicalmonk1427 4 жыл бұрын
Pleased try this one, it would be really helpful Prove that each of the number √n+1-√n for positive integers n can be written in the form of 2cos(2kπ/m) for some integers k,m
@MichaelPennMath
@MichaelPennMath 4 жыл бұрын
I've put it on my list!
@shantanunene4389
@shantanunene4389 4 жыл бұрын
From PFTB? Seems like I have seen this somewhere before
@matteobianchi2038
@matteobianchi2038 4 жыл бұрын
@@shantanunene4389, yeah, i think i've seen it on Brilliant
@meetbrahmbhatt1531
@meetbrahmbhatt1531 4 жыл бұрын
Where is it from
@shantanunene4389
@shantanunene4389 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I think there's a typo. No number of the above form can be written as 2 cos(2 k π/m)
@derwolf7810
@derwolf7810 4 жыл бұрын
Depending on how you define setN := 'the set of natural numbers' (is 0 element of setN?), you might want to add (m=3, n=0): => 2^m+3^n = 2^3+3^0 = 8+1 = 9 = 3^2
@dclrk8331
@dclrk8331 4 жыл бұрын
The set of natural numbers is {1, 2, 3, 4, ....}, the set of whole numbers is {0, 1, 2, 3, 4, ....}, so if this problem were using the set of whole numbers instead of natural numbers than there would be two solutions.
@derwolf7810
@derwolf7810 4 жыл бұрын
@@dclrk8331 I would prefer such a clear definition for natural numbers, but you shouldn't be so sure. There are different standards, see: mathworld.wolfram.com/NaturalNumber.html
@vtvtify
@vtvtify 4 жыл бұрын
16:22 from here the fact that one of the factors is 1 immediately follows, since numbers that differ by 2 cant both be divisible by 3
@adenpower249
@adenpower249 4 жыл бұрын
Good observation.
@II_xD_II
@II_xD_II 3 жыл бұрын
Lior orz
@vtvtify
@vtvtify 3 жыл бұрын
@@II_xD_II How do you keep finding me smh
@ramk4004
@ramk4004 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation.
@djkadam9698
@djkadam9698 3 жыл бұрын
Great teacher ... Hats off sir.......
@alessandropapi2120
@alessandropapi2120 4 жыл бұрын
Try this: proove that each set of n^2+1 people has a subset of n+1 people such that once ordered by height are also ordered by age. Thanks. Great contents as always!
@050138
@050138 4 жыл бұрын
What is 'n' here? Is it true for all natural numbers? And what do you mean by 'ordering'? Strictly ascending / Strictly descending or either? Because if you consider trivial case n = 1, n^2 + 1 is 2 persons and n + 1 is also 2 persons.... So for any given 2 people, we can always have a subset of 2 people (the subset is same as the superset) and any ordering of age of the two people will also give ordering of the height, but it can be EITHER ascending OR descending.... Can you throw in some specificity?
@alessandropapi2120
@alessandropapi2120 4 жыл бұрын
@@050138 yep natural numbers and either ascending or descending.
@alessandropapi2120
@alessandropapi2120 4 жыл бұрын
They just need to be ordered in some way.
@050138
@050138 4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Romanov Wow! Didn't know such a theorem exists! I have exactly followed the steps backwards as you mentioned.... And arrived at the theorem statement on the lines of what you wrote.... Which I had been trying to prove since last two days.... The thing I am trying to prove goes like this.... Given a sequence of (n^2 + 1) numbers which are increasing.... Irrespective of whatever order you may arrange the numbers of this sequence, you will still have (n + 1) of the numbers either strictly increasing or decreasing.... It will be either increasing or decreasing, not both and it will depend totally on the way the terms of original sequence is jumbled
@alessandropapi2120
@alessandropapi2120 4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Romanov thanks for your reply. It's from Scuola Galileiana Unipd Admission Test. (Italian university math undergrad admission test)
@ivanpatrashev9237
@ivanpatrashev9237 4 жыл бұрын
Michael: names powers as “a”, ”b” ,”c” ,”d” ,”I”,J”. “e”, “f”, “g”, “h”: am I a joke to you?
@mr.soundguy968
@mr.soundguy968 2 жыл бұрын
4:35 in this case it would've been more elegant to note that 2 is congruent to -1 mod 3 and then argue that m cannot be odd
@dentonyoung4314
@dentonyoung4314 10 ай бұрын
If we allow zero as a value, m = 3 and n= 0 also works: you get 8 + 1, which is 9, a perfect square.
@thapakaji8579
@thapakaji8579 4 жыл бұрын
my approach was to establish m and n was even as use primitive pythagorean triplet theorem.
@mrmathcambodia2451
@mrmathcambodia2451 3 жыл бұрын
I like this solution . so good .
@michaelempeigne3519
@michaelempeigne3519 4 жыл бұрын
Let ABC be an acute triangle with circumcircle omega and let H be the intersection of the altitudes of the triangle ABC. Suppose that the tangent to the circumcircle of triangle HBC intersects omega at points X and Y with HA = 3, HX = 2 and HY = 6. The area of triangle ABC can be written as m sqrt ( n ) where m and n are positive integers and n is not divisible by the square of any prime. Find m + n. This question is from the AIME 2020.
@050138
@050138 4 жыл бұрын
..... "tangent to circumcircle of triangle HBC interesects omega....." But tangent at which point?
@himanshux21
@himanshux21 4 жыл бұрын
didn't know neil patrick Harris is such a good mathematician
@claudiupop8947
@claudiupop8947 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! If you want you can try the following problem: Let an be a series, where a1=p (p is a prime number) and an=2*a(n-1)+1. Prove that exists a natural number i, such that ai is not a prime number. (Romanian Mathematical Olympiad)
@MichaelPennMath
@MichaelPennMath 4 жыл бұрын
I like this problem. I will give it a go. btw: I have a collaborator who is originally from Romania!
@onlinecircuitsimulation8774
@onlinecircuitsimulation8774 4 жыл бұрын
I think the general term would be 2^n*p+2^{n}-1, now settings n=k(p-1) implies the whole term is divisible by p.
@050138
@050138 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting question! Was able to solve it using Fermat's Little theorem.... More over, that 'i' for which it is true is the prime 'p' itself, for all odd primes p.... Let's represent nth term as a[n] Since a[1] = p and a[n] = 2*a[n - 1] + 1 we have a[2] = 2*a[1] + 1 = 2p + 1 a[3] = 2*a[2] + 1 = 2*(2p + 1) + 1 = 4p + 3 So we can see that in the nth term, the coefficient of p will be 2 multiplied (n - 1) times and the constant term will be sum of all the powers of 2 from 0 to (n - 2), or a[n] = 2^(n - 1)*p + (2^(n - 2) + ...... + 2 + 1) or a[n] = 2^(n - 1)*p + [2^(n - 1) - 1] or a[n] = 2^(n - 1)*(p + 1) - 1 or generally or a[i] = 2^(i - 1)*(p + 1) - 1 Now, Fermat's Little theorem states that if 'p' is a prime and 'a' is a natural number relatively prime to p (gcd of (a, p) = 0), then a^(p - 1) = 1(mod p) So for every odd prime (all primes except 2), as 2 is relatively prime to p, we have 2^(p - 1) = 1(mod p) We also have (p + 1) = 1(mod p) obviously Multiplying the two congruences, 2^(p - 1)*(p + 1) = 1(mod p) which means 2^(p - 1)*(p + 1) - 1 is divisible by p But 2^(p - 1)*(p + 1) - 1 is nothing but a[p] So we proved that for all odd primes p, a[p] is divisible by p and hence not a prime If p is 2, then we have a[1] = 2 and a[2] = 2*2 + 1 = 5 which is an odd prime, for which we already have proven that there will be an i such that a[i] is not prime QED
@050138
@050138 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 Thank you! ☺️
@pankajkumarbehera8169
@pankajkumarbehera8169 4 жыл бұрын
You nailed it sir!
@lanceraltria
@lanceraltria Жыл бұрын
The ISO 80000-2 definition of "natural number" includes 0, which leads to two more solutions m=0, n=1 (1+3=4) and m=3, n=0 (8+1=9). (I'm not saying this video was wrong; this video just used a non-ISO definition of natural numbers.) For those interested, please look for the step in this video that excluded these solutions. For those more interested, you might have noted that 4 and 9 are squares of 2 and 3; please show that the resultant squares being powers of the two LHS numbers is more than a coincidence. For those even more interested, please further prove or disprove that these are the only two additional solutions allowing m or n to be 0.
@thapakaji8579
@thapakaji8579 4 жыл бұрын
so what you could do instead of checking the parity of m is you could write 2^m = (-1)^m = x ^2 (mod 3), hence m is even because if u square on negative number its always positive. I don't know if i am correct but if this is true you could save some time in competition. A response would be appreciated.
@kenichimori8533
@kenichimori8533 3 жыл бұрын
2^m+3^n=np mersenne prime number. modular square seven is perfect number two term equal multi term computation time theorem.
@k1batman
@k1batman 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@mcwulf25
@mcwulf25 2 жыл бұрын
I reduced this mod 3 then showed m must be even. So put m=2k. Then difference of squares leads to 3^n = 2*2^k + 1. From here we can show there is no solution for n>2 by reducing mod 27, because the RHS can never be zero mod 27. So n=2 is the only solution unless we count m=0, n=1.
@CDChester
@CDChester 4 жыл бұрын
Similar problem. I had this on a number theory final and I don't think many got it right. 5^a+101^b=a(x^6+7).
@morelelfrancel6603
@morelelfrancel6603 4 жыл бұрын
MATHEMATICAL PROBLEM SOLVING IS BEAUTIFUL.
@ImaginaryMdA
@ImaginaryMdA 3 жыл бұрын
I did the middle completely differently. I also started by showing in the same way that both powers had to be even. So 2^n = 2^(2*i), 3^m = 3^(2*j) Let a be the smallest of 2^i or 3^j, and let b be the other term and c^2 is the square sum. I noticed that when a^2+b^2=c^2, for a (c-a). In our case (c+a)*(c-a) is a power of either 2 or 3, so (c+a)/(c-a) has to be either 2, 3, or 4. But also b^2 = (c+a)/(c-a) * (c-a)^2, showing that (c+a)/(c-a) has to be a square, therefore this quotient can only be 4. This proves that b^2 = 2^n and a^2 = 3^m and (c+3^j) = 4*(c-3^j) This can be rewritten to c = 5*3^(j-1). So 2^n = 4*(5*3^(j-1) - 3^j)^2 = 4*(2*3^(j-1))^2, but because 2^n has no factor 3, this means 3^(j-1) has to be 1 and j=1. Therefore 3^m = 9, c=5*3^(j-1)=5, and 2^n = 16. Q.E.D.
@electrovector7212
@electrovector7212 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, factorization is a good way but I just wonder if Pythagoraen Triples are working. Write m^2-n^2=2^a and 2mn=3^b or m^2-n^2=3^b and 2mn=2^a. While the first case is not obviously appropriate then just solve the second one!
@MichaelPennMath
@MichaelPennMath 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, once you know that both exponents are even it is clear that you have a primitive pythagorean triple and can use the parameterization you mentioned. This is a very nice and potentially shorter solution. I didn't approach it this way to keep the argument more self contained.
@electrovector7212
@electrovector7212 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelPennMath if I were you I would have used the same way😂. In our junior summer and winter MOP camps, we generally use mod and factorization while solving diophantine equations just like this. Also in competitions and olympiads, the official solutions are based on this method!
@MTerogawa
@MTerogawa 4 жыл бұрын
I immediately thought to 2^3+3^0=9=3^2 which is a solution you didn't tell. You were working on N and not N* ^^
@MTerogawa
@MTerogawa 4 жыл бұрын
Of course there is also 3^1+2^0
@eduard9929
@eduard9929 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! I would suggest o problem which I think it is by far the hardest ever problem to a competion. I am not exagerating , not one bit! It is the problem 6 of RMM 2016 (Romanian Masters of Mathematics). When I saw it for the first time, I've said that no student will be able to do it! But , one did it ! one in 113. A few took 1 or 2 points and that's it ! Please consider watching it! Thanks
@hopegarden7636
@hopegarden7636 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried with 3 and 5 and found no natural number solution.... Just out of curiousity if both of them are distinct primes(other than 2) what can we say about that?
@rachanas3948
@rachanas3948 4 жыл бұрын
Really great
@cookwithsunila4947
@cookwithsunila4947 4 жыл бұрын
Good job man
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