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If they just finish the recreation of the titanic and have it be explorable while sinking in real time, that's all I think 95% of us wanted.

Hey! Great video! But you have a slightly incorrect idea about THG and Project 401. I’m the creative director of the projects. Let me know if you’d like to chat! The most important correction: the elaborate video game planned a decade ago under previous direction is no longer our vision for the project. We have a much more history-first approach and are no longer making a “video game.” think of it more like an interactive virtual museum. :)

I've wanted to explore the decks of the Titanic (and the Enterprise...) since I was a very small child and I'm more than ecstatic at what has been delivered so far in Honor and Glory/Demo 401. It's beautiful, and while not entirely what was promised is the closest anyone has ever come. I hope they keep plugging away at it. I don't care if it takes until 2060, as long as I can explore the Titanic before I die I'll be a happy camper!

Oh a stroll down memory lane. A bunch of which I sadly can't confirm, deny, or even talk about, as much as I'd like to do so, I promise! But I'm happy to report THG and P401 are VERY scaled back. No story, no world besides the ship. Only game "mechanics" focus on the history around her story. No NPCs. We're only aiming for what we think is possible with our limited small team after a disastrous (third?) rebirth (which I'm surprised you didn't cover!) P401 is def in the cards. But will we be able to finish even this super slim version of THG our supporters dream of? Gosh I hope so. This isn't easy. Thanks for the video!

Hey! Big fan of the channel here, long term THG supporter here, and big nautical enthusiast - I wanted to weigh in on my input that you might find interesting about this topic… I fully believe that the main reason as to why THG has not gotten anywhere over the past several years is because of Tom Lynskey. Tom has quite the extensive history of overpromising projects, and never delivering on them … and when he does deliver, they are very underwhelming. This is the case of a Britannic game they released as a side project. Tom took time it seems from the meson project in favor of another project, which i think under-delivered. Tom formerly worked on the Lost in the Darkness project which you mentioned in this video, and while from the surface, lost in the darkness team splitting away and forming THG might seem like an easy one, with no drama, upon investigation (which I have screenshot proof of), Tom would CONSTANTLY leave nasty remarks towards the former Lost in the Darkness team. The Lost in the Darkness team would constantly try reforming, but Tom would leave truly disheartening, and EXTREMELY rude comments towards them.. some of these comments can actually be seen by going to the old Lost in the Darkness videos. At the moment, Tom and his new team are working on a game about Lusitania, another four funneled liner which sank. (Tom no longer being associated with THG) Sadly, while there used to be huge hype for this Lusitania project, there isn’t anymore. This is because Tom NEVER updates people regarding his projects. Always leaves them in the dark…and this is why his Lusitania video game will fail. As I mentioned beforehand, i am a big ship enthusiast. In talking to a few people who are knowledgeable on the subject, the Lusitania game that is currently being produced has questionable levels of accuracy. Such as color choice, General mood and atmosphere, inaccurate models, asset store flips, etc, etc…the game has been announced in 2018, and sadly, it now being 5 years since initial announcements / hints were made, there is almost nothing to show at all, aside from animated renders. NO gameplay…just renders… I would like to emphasize as well, that Tom does NOT like any criticism as well. He is extremely sensitive to it, as he has deleted or hidden away comments that critique him or question him. Silencing critics I think is a pretty bad move. When people caught on to this, I posted a few comments on his page to see if this was indeed the case …. Of course, my comment was deleted. I’ve photographed this, and have it as evidence. I am in a discord group chat where we archive incidents like this, where we have a good 30 or so screenshots of this exact thing happening on his channel. Tom also has a history of blowing up at people online who critique him. Again, there can be found screenshots of this. Him constantly giving off a severely displeasurable attitude online also makes things worse, and gave THG a bit of a mixed reputation regarding on how they respond to things. So I believe this happens because of Tom disliking competition, and thinking he owns historical subjects, which is silly to say, but it’s the only logical explanation I could give for this behavior. I know it is a common trait with historians as well. Lotta titanic historians seem to be this way, and want to be the authority on a subject. So I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the case. That’s my thinking…not out to get Tom, but these traits run projects into the ground.

Anyone else notice that he used footage from Oceangate in the intro? Using footage from an ill fated voyage to wreck that sank on an ill fated voyage, to intro a video about an ill fated game based on the ill fated voyage is kinda genius.

2:15 I'm suddenly reminded of Gex: Enter The Gecko, which had a Titanic section in the underwater level that recreated this room fairly closely.

Not only was Dorothy Gibson a survivor of the sinking, in the movie she wore the exact dress she wore that night!

Such a shame as the work they seem to have done recreating the ship itself is *mind-blowing*.

Ah yes Titenic the booziest of beat'em ups!

I have ethical concerns about recreating the Titanic _in historic detail_ as a for profit project. That seems like the kind of thing where you apply for research grants and Patreon to release what you have in an early access basis with an ultimate eye for a public domain final release. You know, because it's a work of historic science.

I had no idea there had been that much crap around THG. I've been following the game's development since Demo 2 and I think it's super ambitious, way too ambitious. But what they managed to make is absolutely breathtaking. I sure hope the full model of the ship can be finished someday. Or at least the main decks....

Just a little correction, the sinking demo mentioned at 15:30, is not actually the sinking demo. The sinking demo actually referred to is the one that is available on the website under the downloads section. Just a tiny little playable section of the ship that sinks.

The best game about it is Titenic, anyway

There's a Thai takeaway in Belfast called thaitanic. I am not even kidding.

The whole Titanic: Honor and Glory tale is perfectly summed up by the quote, "We do this not because it is easy, but because we thought it would be".

A a HUGE Titanic buff since i was about 6 years old, it's really disappointing to see Titanic H&G end up with so many production problems. To be able to fully explore the ship before and during the sinking would be an amazing and humbling experience for so many people. I did love exploring Titanic in Adventure Out of Time, so to imagine being able to look around the fully explorable ship in present time would be breathtaking.

Even if it were just a walking simulator exploration of the most famous ship sinking of all time in such stunning detail, I would line up in the snow; battling off sabretooth tigers with only a loose leaf notebook; just to have an opportunity to walk through the ship, from coal bunkers to wheel house. Especially in VR.

ive been fascinated by the Titanic since i was a child, a strange child apparently, and hope they can actually finish this at some point.

You can always tell babies first actual game. There are thousands of systems. MASSIVE map ideas etc. Things that THAT specific person wants in a game. Never mind if you don't. Then i just fades away. Those early 2000's rpg maker people are perfect examples.

Its a Shame because the idea of wandering around the ship sounds amazing

I’m living in the shadow of the Harland and Wolf cranes where the Titanic was built and this fascinates me tbh. I would have loved a full game or even just the interactive model they originally proposed.

"...even the government is KINDA interested..." LMAO. Sure, Tom.

I read the title and immediately thought of that SNES game called SOS which was clearly inspired by the Titanic. I don't think it was released in the US though

If history has shown us anything about this type of disastrous gigantic crowdfunding campaigns, they'll end up either a) just silently abandoning at some point or, even worse, b) starting to develop paid DLC and side games even before the game is even (literally) half-finished.

I’m had NO idea THG had any sort of drama or controversy around it, I’ve been passively looking forward to this game, luckily I have no money on the line.

I'm so glad i did some research and watched this video before i put any money down on their patreon. I'll wait till its complete.

I bet the Springfield Retirement Castle once showed James Cameron’s Titanic movie to their residents and at the end of the movie, Moleman asked “Didn’t that movie used to have a rapping dog in it?”

The video game version has the potential of working. IF they cut out the town of Southampton. Having the ship full of NPC's, some of who are hunting you down to arrest you, while you try to find the man or woman who framed you, could technically work. And if they made it kind of like a rouglike, where each time you play, the criminal you're looking for is different, would really increase replayability, instead of just running through a linear story. It would be something like "Shadow of Doubt" but on a ship that's slowly sinking. That would be the best way to go with a project like this, I think, because if the game is replayable, you can get people playing it more, playing it over and over again, and it would lengthen the game's shelf life. IE... more profits. But for the level of detail they want and the fans are demanding, Plus adding the entire town of Southampton? That's insane. It's never going to see the light of day. Even what I'm suggesting would be difficult for a small group of developers to pull off. Add to that the intense graphics and details these guys want to include, and it makes the prospect of making a game way too much. These guys have really overbloated their vision and it's going to kill the project if it's not dead already.

Yes, I'm one of those folks out there that is 100% obsessed with the Titanic. I have been since I was a six or seven year old, LOL.

calling the sinking of the titanic a 100 year plus travesty is some next level conspiracy theory stuff :)

I recommend Titanic: Adventure out of Time, a great adventure game and a nice complement to The Last Express.

Don't forget about that novel that unintentionally predicted the event by pure coincidence

I remember being really invested in all the updates. I loved that community. I hated that they took down so much of their content when they broke up with Tom.

...I've probably been introduced to the titanic through one of the strangest ways; the 999 video game. That, and there is a massive titanic museum about 20-30 minutes from where I am, but mainly that 999 game.

Finally someone addressed the shady business practices and messed up work ethics behind Honor and Glory. I can't honestly recall how many times they started to rebuild things from scratch. Last time we got a nice demo with lot's of the ship available to explore but then they decided to start again from the keel of the shop and redo every rivet for like the third or fourth time. That was the line for me.

If they would drop the game part and just would make you a sailor on the ship and then add NPCs that are actually the people on the crew and passenger-list, they would actually be able to create a historic model and honor the souls of the Titanic in an unique way. It would also be a tremendous achievement. As the nameless sailor they could also have you virtually attend to duties that a sailor aboard the Titanic was expected to mind- heck, they could even expand on that over the years after release with different tasks and duties for the various positions within the crew at large, from deck-scrubber, cabin-hand, cook, waiter and so on all the way to the look-out in the crow's nest and even the captain of the Titanic making the decisions in the final hours of the Titanic. They have gold in their hands and basically one that could sustain them for at least three decades with this DLC idea. In my opinion, the current group has no vision for the future. They just want to get it done. We all know that the game-division is just there to not have to disappoint people, but I think if they read this and think that this is a better way, they should totally disappoint people. Who wants a game? It's all about history and they have an unique chance to let people actually experience history, not just look at it. Again, if any of the current devs see this.., take this idea. It's yours and I believe it's something that allows them to consolidate their manpower again.

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Seeing the inside of the titanic stuff in the background at around 6:30 or so made me realize, it's wild they never made like a new Titanic game since the movie was so beloved. Like there was a board game, an NES game, and I want to say like a couple other games based on the movie, but with how much research they put into studying the inside workings of the ship for the film they could have easily come out recently, made a game, and sold out on the tragedy. But they don't while we get a new CoD based on another historical event or war we went through without any caution that the event was a real with and not a quick battle pass and cosmetics. That's not toward the players btw, but more toward the companies who churn it out so fast. I will say, as much of a tragedy the Titanic is, It's a shame Cameron never released a 3D map of the interior of the ship or anything from the movie. Just a true digital experience that could be put into VR or even the ability to watch the movie in VR could have been very fascinating truly. Makes me also wish that people would stop saying boats are unsinkable, since the Titanic II and many other ships where people go "Yeah, even God can't sink this" keep sinking.

Love the use of Frankie Goes to Hollywood's Power of Love. One of my favorite SingStar tracks to go head to head on.

If they just finished the titanic as a just explore the ship... they could sell it as a amazing teaching tool and for enthusiasts... THEN work on the game with the income from that (if it gets enough)

Please do an expose on the Unknown Realms scam by Stirring Dragon!

I'm starting to think it might have been cheaper and quicker to have just built a full scale replica of the Titanic.

Didn't expect to hear Iain Lee

the first titanic game was amazing, especially when Jack beat up everyone.

There's no reason they couldn't release this in parts/stages/milestones. There's natural divisions with decks and days. An empty wandering mode, an NPC-filled mode and various stages of gameplay/story. Adding the harbor was the biggest mistake. At the very, very most, include an unexplorable pretty view of the harbor at sail, recreate it starting its voyage with you on board.

Man... I didn't know that Part-time Explorer was into shady things... What a dissapointment

I followed this project from afar and liked the potential, but I remember when I saw the news they wanted to recreate 1912 Southampton, I let a long and deep sigh escape.

The world's fascination with anything Titanic is a bit overstated, it was mostly just driven by the cultural impact of the James Cameron film. People who weren't born yet couldn't care less about the Titanic. Some of them are in their mid twenties now, feel old yet? I was 8 years old when the movie came out so that craze never touched me either and I'm still not that fascinated with the Titanic specifically, but I became interested in cruise liners in video games thanks to horror/thriller games. Mainly _999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors_ and _Resident Evil: Revelations_ .

Dont forget the titanic was in ghostbusters 2 as well 😊

25:30 This could describe the current state of Star Citizen also.

It didnt need to be a videogame, people wouldve bought it as a VR interactive explorative walking sim day one

There's always SOS on the SNES guys. To miss it would be a Titanic mistake (sorry/not sorry).

I can't believe Star Citizen is further along than this

Thats kinda weird 250k wasn't that the same amount oceangate wanted?

I was obsessed with the Titanic when I was a kid, so when James Camerons movie came out, I had my mom take me the first weekend to see it, we had to wait 2 whole screenings at the theater because it was sold out.

Idk what it is about your voice, its just so relaxing to listen you telling any story

It sounds like an instrumental version of Frankie Goes To Hollywood's - "Power Of Love" at the beginning!? 🤔 🤷🏻‍♂️ Hell, I dunno... But it DID remind me of that song! ✌🏼😁👍🏼

I'd love to see an absolutely brutal FPS zombie game set on the Titanic. How epic would that be?😂😂😂

I wish I could view it on my Mac computer.

Pine Pot! That neon sign is a deep reference. I recognized it right away. One of those wonderful examples of Japanese game developers coming up with things that sound English to them and hilarious to us. Now someone just needs to make a Bobson Dugnutt baseball jersey.

Hey...The movie was made with a section of less than 1/4 of the ship's length. The game being made in a ship 1/2 the original length doesn't sound too far-fetched. Just model a fore and aft of the Titanic, then put in a quick doubler of the work already done. Bam!

This is the definition of bad management, they wore late in the project and still adding new things when they should have just shrinked the project

there is a gammes on SNES called SOS, inspired by the Titanic. unique experience. unfortunately the sequel was never released cause of the bad health of human entertainment studio.

I once even had an escape room advent calendar game about solving a crime on the Titanic. I have no idea why the game chose the Titanic as a location to begin with though because it absolutely played no role in the story. In the story you actually left the ship again before its travel accross the ocean even started. They could have picked just any generic made up passenger ship and nothing would have changed.

Aw man, I was hoping this wasn't the same project covered by Siro, that one Vtuber because I loved the idea of exploring the Titanic to my heart's content... and turns out it is. Well, whatever, it is what it is and it's better for me and all of us that you've covered it in your amazing, fun style and inform all of us rather than, well, fall into a kick scam. No wonder they were asking for donations a lot.

Please stop using Amico as a punchline for your jokes. Sure, you made amends and apologized, but you helped those f***ers and gave the console even more exposure. You have forfeited your right to joke about it, since you were a driving force and part of the problem.

If they had mixed the stunning Visuals with the Concept of "The Ship", they would have gotten all my money. 😅

you've done such a great job, its so effortless to listen to you, ty

I used to follow this project which was an extremely long time ago. I got intrested in it again when i heard about the 3rd demo.

Yea it sucks that its super delayed but the scope of the project is more immense than people might realize. Plus their attention to detail and accuracy is not something that is a speedy process. Top it off with a small team and infighting... well. Im bummed it hasnt come out yet (supported it myself actually) but from the demos that I have seen and messed around with, it will be worth the wait. And for someone who has been a member of the THS since 1989 (and met survivors at a conference in Boston back in the 90s as a kid) Its something that I am willing to wait for.

I remembered the grand staircase demo with a piano cover of Autumn playing.

So many projects were ruined by feature creep. They should have worried about finishing the ship first before worrying about the town or story mode.

I'm a backer of the first IndieGoGo campaign. I was a teenager obsessed with the ship. I have now many years of work experience, wife and kids lol. I don't think it's a scam, the amount of work done is stunning and their demos are great. I remember being very upset about the Southampton recreation, no one cared about it and it was already a very delayed game.

Hahaha it’s great when fools fight with emails

I remember playing demo of the stairs room way back, crazy if it's still not done

Releasing a game/demo on the day of a tragedy is kind of... not very good from their side, don't you think? It's like releasing a demo of the Twin Towers collapse on the day of a tragedy.

When I hear somebody tell me that the tech that they use is so good that a Government is interested in it then there comes a distinct bovine whiff under my nose. He never said which Government either.

But there is already a game that you can explore the ship and it looks exactly like the demo footage. Im so confused because it came out in 1996. I loved it and played it over and over again.

Best thing thet can do os scale back. Finish rhe model and then make the game if need be

hey man, quick question, did you played ‘we happy few’? are you a fan of it? because i just heard the game main menu soundtrack in your ‘kickstarters FATAL campaigns’, and i absolutely love that game, it’s my favorite even know i played more than one hundred hours of tears of the kingdom

If only there was some sort of metaphor for a very ambitious project which met with disaster.

Oh so no metion of the cartoon movies called the true story of the titanic .... With anmals a bad love story and sadly no one can forget thev rapping dog

I met a survivor of the titanic when I was at junior school in the mid 80s

I was wondering what happened with this, I remember seeing the footage from that demo and thought it looks really impressive. But given the niche they’re trying to go for as well as the crazy ambition, it’s no wonder it is the way it is.

sooooo the story says he wanted to prove his innocence by stowing aboard a ship hmmmm......

That IS FGTH's "Power Of Love" !?! 🤔 I swear it is! 🤔 🤷🏻‍♂️ 🤘🏼😘👌🏼

It's "can it run Crysis". Not "can it run Crysis 2". It's like night and day.

Did you just slag off the company trying to sell off ‘titanic tat’ to raise extra cash for Honour & Glory then you tried to flog your own plushie doll at the end of the video, that was hilarious 😂

What a Titan of a video Slopes. Shame this project imploded.

Always enjoy your videos!

Don't be sad that it's over. Be glad that it happened.

I'll never understand the obsession over the Titanic. It's a ship and it sank. Yes it's tragic and somewhat interesting but the fact that people obsess over it is weird.

As someone who has been part of this fandom for a while (although i can honestly say im not as flipping interested as some are) i can honestly say i hate Tom, i think hes up his own backside Btw ....i dunno if he has gone that far away from the project ....i could swear he was recently in an oceanliner designs stream of the recent demo

Can you imagine what is be like if the Titanic's sister ship Olympia had been preserved after she was retired? She was built before Titanic so she's almost the same ship. Too bad the foresight wasn't there back in 1936.

Having read the entirety of the email exchange that Slope showed on screen..... Dr. Lee is definitely insane. I mean, sure, maybe the guy from Honor & Glory is a dick, but Jesus Christ - talk about being entitled. You would have to be so freaking fed up with the progress of the game (or the studio themselves) to read that exchange & think he was the more rational one.

Feels like duke nukem forever to me. Ya have someone who wants to make an eye candy game. The issue when ya do that is ya have to make it as good as you can but under a schedule. That’s because even if you start with the newest rigs pumping out the best visuals by the time you start it’s already outdated. The longer you take the more dated your work is gonna look. 10+ years of development is too long and means either the end product will look dated OR you will be forever in a loop updating the models, textures, game engine etc… basically Duke Nukem Forever.

Did you say the titanic was 175 feet? I have to have misheard that. 882 feet might be closer.

What happened behind the scenes in this bruhaha was of titanic proportions