Indo-European News (11/2023) with Professor Tony Yates

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8 ай бұрын

Professor Tony Yates (www.adyates.com/) returns for a dive into the two hosts' readings in Indo-European studies from the last month in November 2023.
Jackson Crawford, Ph.D.: Sharing real expertise in Norse language and myth with people hungry to learn, free of both ivory tower elitism and the agendas of self-appointed gurus. Visit jacksonwcrawford.com/ (includes bio and linked list of all videos).
Jackson Crawford’s Patreon page: / norsebysw
Visit Grimfrost at glnk.io/6q1z/jacksoncrawford
Latest FAQs: vimeo.com/375149287 (updated Nov. 2019).
Jackson Crawford’s translation of Hávamál, with complete Old Norse text: www.hackettpublishing.com/the... or www.amazon.com/Wanderers-Hava...
Jackson Crawford’s translation of The Poetic Edda: www.hackettpublishing.com/the... or www.amazon.com/Poetic-Edda-St...
Audiobook: www.audible.com/pd/The-Poetic...
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@akarchive0508 8 ай бұрын

I love the Indo-European updates!

@ADHDlanguages 8 ай бұрын

I'm so glad this has become a regular series!

@destructionindustries1987 8 ай бұрын

I need endless Indo-European bread sticks

@tuasucks 8 ай бұрын

Awesome talk as always. These podcasts you do with other indo-europeanists are by far my favorite content of yours!

@bendthebow 8 ай бұрын

Jackson Crawford, destroyer of books!

@weepingscorpion8739 8 ай бұрын

Equus being a Wanderwort is pretty fascinating. There is an interesting similar case like this in Old Norse. There is a Uralic root which in Erzya and Moksha (eljde) means mare but in Sámic seems to have shifted to meaning (reindeer) doe (North Sámi: áldu). This term was borrowed into Old Norse as jalda meaning mare. To the best of my knowledge it's unattested in any modern North Germanic language but the word survives in English in two forms: jade and yaud, usually meaning an old tired horse. But yeah, looking for evidence outside the language family is fascinating. So looking for Uralic in Germanic and vice versa is fascinating. One thing I recently learned about is a tablet maybe a stele, which was bilingual Punic and Etruscan, IIRC. As someone who hopes that a copy of Claudius' Etruscan dictionary is hidden under the ashes of Vesuvius, this was cool to find out existed. Always good to see professor Yates. Hope that one day I will be able to join the Zoom.

@weepingscorpion8739 8 ай бұрын

@@varjovirta3085 Uhm... care to elaborate on exactly what part of my comment was difficult to understand?

@morvil73 8 ай бұрын

Hi Dr Jackson Crawford, if you’re ever interested in doing anything about Cornish, either as a historical or as a revived language, let me know!

@vvvvaaaacccc 8 ай бұрын

I would love a follow-up video reviewing the Proto-Basque and PIE book.

@rheiagreenland4714 5 ай бұрын

Well guess who's birthday it is!

@senecaflint6853 8 ай бұрын

Keep these updates on PIE coming!

@spacerx 8 ай бұрын

There's a reason why they say that science advances one funeral at a time.

@mytube001 8 ай бұрын

I really like this and hope it will be regular!

@Statevector 6 ай бұрын

Great discussion! I'm thoroughly enjoying this series. Around 59:52 you mention that Calvert Watkins identifies a fragmented Luvian text with a broader poetic tradition and that what remains might be the opening to an epic poem about the Trojan war. Very cool! Where can I find the original paper where he introduces this idea?

@bendthebow 8 ай бұрын

I enjoy these

@seenonyt2210 3 ай бұрын

Cool topic! In case you are looking for other hosts in the series, Dr. Guus Kroonen might be a good one.

@oneukum 8 ай бұрын

Does Hittite do the "extended duration" commands of Latin and other languages, like "amatote fratres!"?

@UnshavenStatue 5 ай бұрын

I now happily await the "norse and hittite guys read about protobasque" youtube video xD

@ktkatte6791 8 ай бұрын

I feel like it's a "fat chance" request but is there any hope for ISBNs on those norse grammars and other books dropped early on in the episode?

@arkaig1 7 ай бұрын

By the way, I'm so late in viewing here (11 days?!), because I got stuck with this video behind Razib Kahn's two (1 new) 1.5 hour conversations with capital-a Amateur Archaeology substacker Peter Nimitz. I'm cross-post-referencing, for each of your and your user communities' interests. Also he knows (and interviews!) some of the aDNA genetic heavy hitters you say here you might like to encounter. I know only a little, at the personal hobbyist level. Cheers! Great video, yet again.

@arkaig1 7 ай бұрын

You guys in this series hit (upon?) proto-language, mega-families [I forgot 'Nostratic', ugh!], pUralic-vis-pIE, Uralic-vis-Tocharian, proto-Celtic-Italic-Germanic or not that, etc. I almost commented last time [did I?], about whether linguistics can elevate 'borrowing', and etc., to near the level of 'robustness' of say family-descent, and whether that is a better approach for each of the issues I picked up upon, above. @adyates followed. I'm just curious about what my WHG spoke. And whether I can call my proto-Iceni 'Pictish' or not. [By the way, the Pictish origin story, minus "Priam", does parallel the I2-M284 (British Isles) migration path. Coincidence? 50-50? Reversed references? ;)]

@gavinrogers5246 8 ай бұрын

I'm looking forward to seeing this review ...

@basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 8 ай бұрын

Wheel? - 'tumbler piece'; 'roller stand';and vice-versa.

@johnhoelzeman6683 8 ай бұрын

Dr. Crawford, I've been curious about this for some time. Do you pronounce the WH that way when you speak because of your accent, or because of your study of Old Norse? I know learning a second language can at times influence your native tongue, and I'm interested to find out if this is an example of that, and if the influence may have come from elsewhere

@rowanmcgovern1343 8 ай бұрын

He's said a few times in the past that it's something he picked up from his grandparents

@bob___ 8 ай бұрын

"Woe is me"

@ovadansal6750 8 ай бұрын

Mr. Crawford. You really, and I mean really, have to reach Razib Khan.

@jacoblamb3535 8 ай бұрын

33:00 talk to razib khan. Do his podcast or yours. He’d be easier to get ahold of than david reich

@EGULL97 8 ай бұрын

Wife and I decided on Iceland for the Honeymoon. Got 6 months to cram.

@senecaflint6853 7 ай бұрын

Nostratic truther here. No languages emerged from the ether without any precedent. Any serious scholar who puts effort into megafamily research should at least be heard out

@MsAhutch 8 ай бұрын

Out of curiosity, did Scandinavians ever have contact with jews and what did they think of them?

@herdyhely3496 8 ай бұрын

Another vote for Razib Khan, he might be easier to reach than David Reich, and there’s Tom Booth from the Crick Institute he does some outreach.

@danieltabin6470 8 ай бұрын

Jackon, I am a PhD student in David Reich's lab. I would love to get you in contact!

@IosefDzhugashvili 3 ай бұрын

If you haven't yet gotten in touch I highly recommend using the contact page on Dr. Jackson's eponymous site which is linked in the description of this video. I would LOVE to see this collaboration!

@rdklkje13 29 күн бұрын

Thanks for doing those interviews here Daniel!

@gavinrogers5246 8 ай бұрын

Could the equus question be somewhat related to Dr. Gorton's vin hypothesis and used to refine the location of the ancestral homeland of Proto-Indo European and their relations with other language groups? This might be an oversimplistic question ...

@NathanaelFosaaen 8 ай бұрын

The whole thing about PIE having words for technologies that didn't exist prior to about 5000-6000 years ago that David Anthony talks about isn't a new point. JP Mallory brought that up in the 80s.

@dcdcdc556 8 ай бұрын

No fumar

@beepboop204 8 ай бұрын

thanks!

@NathanaelFosaaen 8 ай бұрын

Eske Willerslev is a paleogeneticist who does a LOT of podcasts and interviews. He's also really into inter-disciplinary research with linguists and archaeologists, so I'd hit him up first. David Anthony would also be a great interview.

@davidlericain 8 ай бұрын

I'm but a simple steak n shake indo-europeanist.

@nissevelli 8 ай бұрын

I’m your standard run of the mill Culver’s Indo-Europeanist.

@spacerx 8 ай бұрын

The guy to talk to about archaeogenetics is David at Eurogenes. You might like him especially because he's a little outside of the mainstream structure of Academia like you are.

@lakrids-pibe 8 ай бұрын

Low key Loki lounging Indo-Europeanist sofa

@gavinrogers5246 8 ай бұрын

She's his goddaughter in the movie.

@M.athematech 7 ай бұрын

1st pers. nom. PIE (Sihler) *eǵoH, PAA (Blažek) *ʔaku 2nd pers. nom. PIE *tī̆ / *tū̆, PAA *ta dem. / 3rd pers. nom. PIE *so, PAA **šuwa but yeah sure, no one believes in Nostratic, blah blah coincidence

@seenonyt2210 3 ай бұрын

Nice! Do you happen to have a pointer to the publication by Blazek on *ʔaku ?

@M.athematech 3 ай бұрын

@@seenonyt2210 Blažek, Václav. "The Afroasiatic personal pronouns: a textbook example of a suppletive paradigm." (2019).

@seenonyt2210 3 ай бұрын

@@M.athematech thanks a lot, highly appreciated!