In this video, I break down some of the pros and cons to field and combat uniforms. Enjoy! And stay tuned for more!
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@Brandon-yk8qz10 ай бұрын
In the Army Infantry I've always preferred wearing the "Field" top with the Combat pants. The Combat pants having built in knee pads that don't shift around and the Field top having more pockets and protection than a Combat shirt
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Those built in knee pads are money
@jonathonmiller632010 ай бұрын
I’m really enjoying the waist down angle on this video.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Crotch reveal
@chairmanofthebored686010 ай бұрын
That you, Navy?
@boejiden194210 ай бұрын
@@chairmanofthebored6860it ain't gay if you're under way
@chairmanofthebored686010 ай бұрын
@@boejiden1942 it's not gay if there's no eye contact. Just business.
@sabre886210 ай бұрын
This guy’s definitely a cav scout
@rolandomaldonado830910 ай бұрын
I totally agree with the concept of the field/combat uniform still being totally serviceable. Holes and tears are not good to go. One thing ive done to mitigate a failure in the field is put an additional patch on places i expect more wear and tear (like the knees and the crotch) so if a tear does happen there are more layers that ha e maintained their integrity. Ive also heard of people sewing on large patches of their seabags onto the front of their uniforms.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
I’ve seen the sea bag thing too! Generally only snipers though
@MeKnotChu665110 ай бұрын
I was told as a young private, 23 years ago, that you have to be a good garrison soldier to be a good field soldier. In other words keep your gear servicable and clean.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
If you act like a turd in garrison, you’ll never get the opportunity to lead in the field
@xusmico18710 ай бұрын
FInd book "jungle snafus and remidieds by kerry. last printed in 94 I think. WELL WORTH read. especially bug protection. try merirno wool skivies, YES in the jungle and desert.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
I really want to, i probably will
@bradleyfennell687013 күн бұрын
On the Army side, the field OCPs (the “Multicam” field uniform) that I started with is an okay uniform. Tough, but doesn’t breathe all that well. And the zipper pockets on the sleeves are prone to breaking, but at least it’s quieter than the velcro pockets on the UCP tops. A few years ago, they came out with the hot weather version which is phenomenal. Very light, very breathable, and pretty tough. They ditch the zipper pockets for buttons, which I prefer. The only problem they have is that they get sun-bleached over time, except for the reinforced knees, elbows and crotch, so if you wear them a long time, it’s almost fucking white everywhere except those spots. The reinforcement points are ripstop, but they finally shit the bed on one of my pants that I had to retire after regular use for about 3 years. Definitely worth the money I spent on them. They also issued us FRACUs, which is the same cut as the standard OCP. The FRACU pants seem to rip pretty easily, and when they do, they open up real fucking fast and are beyond patching. I never wore them much after that. And as with all things military issued, the combat uniform left a bit to be desired. The combat pants were actually pretty good: flame retardant, accepted soft knee pads like what Crye makes, and tough as shit. Their one hangup is that they’re a bit warm. The combat shirt, however, just sucks in moisture and fails to breathe at all. I stopped using them in favor of the summer top, and the other pants I had when I was overseas, minus the FRACUs.
@TheGruntPerspective13 күн бұрын
I wish the marine corps would put some more into combat uniforms. Since I’ve been in there’s been a few tests but nothing came of it
@arepublicantx3 ай бұрын
The Marine Corps flight suit era was legit. I was lucky enough to be a part of it in a weapons company from 2007-2008 in the Haditha AO but they were starting to issue the FROG gear to our relief as we were leaving Iraq. Also I can tell you were/are a Marine E5 or above based upon the cadence of your profanity and lack of patience with ratty ass cammies. But you are right that mosquitoes, ticks, and chiggers will exploit holes in cammies. Learned that lesson the hard way.
@TheGruntPerspective3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@grenadespoon10 ай бұрын
We only ever had utilities and I always thought that they were comfortable in the field and worked well
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
They are definitely sufficient
@formatr69 ай бұрын
Always solid content dude. Thanks for taking the time to spread some knowledge!
@TheGruntPerspective9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MunitionsDudTester10 ай бұрын
I slept in my FROGs all the time on deployments. After nothing but field cammies for the longest time the FROGs felt like comfy pajamas.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Frogs feel amazing after wearing Cammies the whole work up
@dylanholloway698310 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JohnDoe-mt8rf10 ай бұрын
Paul E Ison I had met when I was 17 at a retirement home in Florida and I got the last picture and signed from him when he passed away a few months later . I talked to him about that picture and what he was doing and he said he took out a machine gun nest because it had the Marines pinned down and as that picture was being taken he was being shot at by the machine gun . He took out two machine gun nests that day.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
He’s a legend
@CMDR-Cody10 ай бұрын
Lots of great points. I have to disagree about the skivy shirts. Merino wool shirts are the best they keep you cool in the heat and warm in the cold. They don't hold onto moisture. Plus they are natural so they burn just like cotton. Yeah they are expensive but totally worth it I have the same shirts I wore 10 years ago but now I wear them hunting instead of in combat. I had a lot of guys who didn't wear skivy shits and got rashs and other skin problems from they blouse rubbing them under their gear. I also wore merino wool underwater and socks. We got issued darn tough socks which are amazing.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
I know some guys who run into problems with chafing too, I’ve never had that problem fortunately
@marcmmclellan10 ай бұрын
I still have my swim cammies. They are almost white! I would have been scared to go to the field in them as they are marginally serviceable!
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Oh yeah pool water and sea water destroys Cammies
@billymays30310 ай бұрын
Can attest to losing pants first, lost two within a 6 month span (deployed environment)
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Yeah man those pants just blow apart so easy
@sheepkashur33087 ай бұрын
Whats your opinion on using specific detergents to prevent UV glow?
@armthedillos229014 күн бұрын
I love you SSgt
@sierra7154 ай бұрын
I know this might be a minor remark but do keep in mind that where the Marines are looking to deploy next, being SE Asia and the Pacific, the Chinese still do practice use with flame throwers, In addition with squad level automatic grenade launchers (I believe this is the PLANMC). These weapons in mind, in combination with the hot and humid climate, I think the combat uniform looks really nice, as you'll want that flame retardency. At the same time if the uniform gets caught on anything in the jungle (because of course it will) it's gonna get a bit shred up. Edit: didn't finish the video before this comment. I wonder if there are frog base layers you can wear under your utility?
@TheGruntPerspective4 ай бұрын
There are frog base layers, but they are meant to be warming layers
@ContraIsBased10 ай бұрын
didn't know that frog pants were kinda fragile,specially when they feel so sturdy,another thing i didnt know was that cotton was organically flame resistant,i actually tough it was the other way around,i normally tend to avoid it because is a little bit uncomfortable,catches a lot of sweat and takes forever to dry,i hate it lmao,both types of uniform are great regardless
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Cotton is not flame retardant, when it burns it doesn’t melt to your skin though
@andrewbunner35915 ай бұрын
I have a set of Crye Precision, its definitely a lot more durable than the FROGs. Its also got rip stop in it which is nice. No digital camo famo patterns though.
@TheGruntPerspective5 ай бұрын
That’s good to know
@Ben_27615 ай бұрын
They do AOR1 camo pattern stuff if you want to match the marines desert pattern
@TAVAAR710 ай бұрын
Re-treating some stuff shortly myself...still frickin tic season here.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Tics are the devil Bobby
@jackgladish682110 ай бұрын
Beyond Clothing makes an “Equatorial” field blouse garment, for just such an occasion. Not in our pattern, unfortunately. I dig a German BW style Smock (Leo Kohler) or Brit smock (Artis, Keela), for weather other than summer/equatorial/ black flag WBGTI conditions. Obviously not Berry Amendment compliant, not in MARPAT, not in compliance with MCO’s.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Damn, that would be nice
@boejiden194210 ай бұрын
Those shirts are way expensive and not even all camo. Shame.
@ahole540710 ай бұрын
IR signature from the spray treatment? Seems like it would make you glow like a light bulb under NVGs.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Never done it personally, the uniforms are treated with permethrin from the factory and they don’t glow, this is the exact same stuff so I assume it isn’t going to be any better or worse then it is brand new
@ahole540710 ай бұрын
@TheGruntPerspective good to know. I've done testing with 5 different waterproofing DWP sprays and they all lit up under nods.
@robertharper375410 ай бұрын
@@ahole5407 Permethrin keeps the bugs away, and does make a huge difference, but doesn't really waterproof. Almost all the waterproofing sprays out there will make you light up as bright as can be under IR, there are some treatments that can be done to clothing but that stuff is usually too nasty to do at home, best you can do is find some decent NIR wet weather gear that breaths somewhat well.
@ahole540710 ай бұрын
@robertharper3754 Understood. I asked my question as it related to what I had experienced with other spray on treatments. My kit is pretty well sorted including the clothing system, 4 sets of combat and field crye/drifires, ORC layers and gortex up to PCU lvl 5 as well as a gen2 parka, firstspear wimdshirt and various other cold weather gear items. Did my testing a few years ago with old FR uniforms and ponchos to see what might work best before ruining all my packs tents and kit. As for insects, I've always just rubbed on the bug juice and never thought twice about it until now. Just ordered a bottle of what you shown in the video and will be doing some testing when it arrives. Thanks for the information. 👍
@christiangillham73072 ай бұрын
I love u Ssgt
@KarlHungus.3 ай бұрын
That 🐫 toe cannot go unmentioned.
@TheGruntPerspective3 ай бұрын
Wow
@thors200210 ай бұрын
Any recs on a good solid color shirt top that will somewhat work with woodland bdu pants? Considering maybe a TRU shirt.
@TheGruntPerspective9 ай бұрын
I do not man I’m sorry, I know there’s lots of good stuff out there I’ve just never used it
@thors20029 ай бұрын
@TheGruntPerspective no worries mate, it's an unusual ask from a civvie who wants to limit his tacticoolness.
@woodsghost90889 ай бұрын
Do you have any problem with Propper or Tru-Spec? They are who I would look at first.
@woodsghost90889 ай бұрын
5.11 is also good. Lots of low profile and overt options, depending what you are looking for.
@thors20029 ай бұрын
@woodsghost9088 not at all. Got a couple sets of tru spec BDUs in woodland I love use them camping and rucking. Thought about either a 24/7 field shirt or something to go with. Just trying to go for a non-uniform look.
@isaacramirez363410 ай бұрын
Do you have any recommendations for detergents? I know on the inside of cammies it says to not use detergent with optical brighteners, so out of curiosity I looked at all the detergent at the px but I wasn't able to find any that didn't contain optical brighteners. Is it that big of a deal?
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
I use whatever my wife buys tbh, I have no idea
@mr.stotruppen872410 ай бұрын
Anything listed as Free and Clear is usually good. One exception is the All brand of detergents. One of the more commonly available ones I've seen is Seventh Generation.
@markusjopek399410 ай бұрын
Seventh Generation is great stuff, can find it most places too
@personalaccount891410 ай бұрын
Do you recommend using a regular or a hot weather field uniform?
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
It depends on what you’re doing, I go into it in the video
@JEJAK539610 ай бұрын
Personally, I wish the Marine Corps would issue just one combat/field uniform for everything. Never was a fan of the issued Cammies. And FROGS suck durability wise.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Neither one of them are perfect for sure
@brad605410 ай бұрын
Word
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Word indeed
@jacobjohnson99178 ай бұрын
Would you recommend a mostly merino wool hunting type pant?
@TheGruntPerspective8 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t have enough experience with o make a recommendation
@mukkaar6 ай бұрын
Merino is great for underlayer or insulation overall. But it's quite excessive for little to no gain for actual outer layer, in fact there's many better materials for outer layer. You might as well get some thin and thick long johns then good durable outdoor pants. Be it some type of military or normal outdoor pants. This also allows you to adapt to different temperatures, and actual pants will protect more expensive merino wool. You can ofc then go without that underlayer too if weather is warm. Layers are ultimate tool for comfortable and functional outdoor experience.
@womplad986410 ай бұрын
I got a real nasty scar from a flak with a sagging plate carrier rubbing against one of my field uniform buttons. Now I have a skin tag there so I'm usually wearing a cotton tee. Still using a Gen 2 flak and it will still rub there. Any advice for me? I'm in one of those blessed units where they want us to wear undershirts and weren't fond of me unbuttoning the top button (not the boot camp one).
@luckyomen10 ай бұрын
Moleskin, cut a square larger than the button, cut a slit in the middle and then put the button through. make sure it doesn't show and don't remove the backer that covers the sticky part. Also, adjust your flak and/or look into getting your plates swapped for a better size.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
1) I’m sorry. 2)I’d probably say an undershirt, or to be honest just remove that button and use a safety pin or something to keep it closed
@womplad986410 ай бұрын
@@luckyomen yeah, plate sizes are a bitch for me. Wide short torso, mediums are too tall, smalls are too thin.
@luckyomen10 ай бұрын
Take the time and adjust your shoulder straps, look into getting some shoulder pads from online or a surplus store out in town. The gen 2 flak, is it the imtv with the dong protector or the plate carrier? either way, there might be a way to add some foam to the inside to pad and add an airflow channel. Closed cell foam in a sock can be stitched to velcro and make a unique solution that won't ruin your flak for CIF, although you will need to clean the residue of the velcro tape off before you turn it in.@@womplad9864
@sbura_8 ай бұрын
What you say about combat clothes being more fragile mainly applies for shirts right? Pants aren’t that fragile
@TheGruntPerspective8 ай бұрын
These specific ones are very fragile
@chrisstuart69797 ай бұрын
The fabric is thinner on FROG pants.
@richbattaglia535010 ай бұрын
Does the permethrin act as a highlight for infrared light? Just want to know in advance.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
I’ve never done it personally. But I don’t believe so, the uniforms are already treated with permethrin from the factory so if you add more, I can’t imagine it would be better or worse than brand new.
@randomguy607910 ай бұрын
I've tested it. It does not have any effect on clothing under nods
@AndrewWisler10 ай бұрын
Anyone familiar, do the Army FRACU field uniforms suffer the same durability issues over NyCo that the USMC FROG uniforms do?
@chairmanofthebored686010 ай бұрын
Can't speak for the USMC stuff, but I had issues with fraying with the FRACU. The aramid tends to break down if there are any abrasions
@peedee196410 ай бұрын
same@@chairmanofthebored6860
@tylersimplot135 ай бұрын
never had a problem wearing silkies for under wear
@TheGruntPerspective5 ай бұрын
I did it for a while too
@tylersimplot135 ай бұрын
@@TheGruntPerspective I wonder do you think your choice would be different, say if you were West coast where its hot but drier or East coast where its also hot but humid? Or think itd be the same?
@Gary99.10 ай бұрын
BRING BACK FROGSKIN CAMO… that is all..
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
Based…that’s is all
@ethanthomasson99529 ай бұрын
Find cryes. I know its different for the marine fellas.
@ethanthomasson99529 ай бұрын
At least pants
@ethanthomasson99529 ай бұрын
Also from my experience, combat pants. Combat tops aren't as cool as you think.
@TheGruntPerspective9 ай бұрын
I would if I could bröther
@sbura_8 ай бұрын
@@TheGruntPerspectivedrifire marpat
@sheepkashur33087 ай бұрын
@@TheGruntPerspectivei hate how the marine corps still chooses tradition over mission, if grunts can, at their own discretion buy dri-cryes in authorized marpat to replace the crappy frogs. But nooooo, command is crying about the one guy who “looks different”
@finn0h10 ай бұрын
Field all the way! Combat uniform is far too high speed.
@TheGruntPerspective10 ай бұрын
If it was good enough for grandad it’s good enough for me