INFANTRYMAN'S GUIDE: BASIC THERMAL MITIGATION

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Brent0331

Brent0331

3 ай бұрын

Infantryman's guide to basic thermal mitigation
In this video we will discuss some basic tactics that can be used by individual infantryman to mitigate their thermal signature.
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@Brent0331
@Brent0331 3 ай бұрын
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@Korruptor
@Korruptor 3 ай бұрын
Okay, where does one find the bug mesh-backed camo net?
@bobbertbobberson6725
@bobbertbobberson6725 3 ай бұрын
As a tanker, constant scanning in the defense is no less necessary when using thermal sights. Like you show with the vegetation, people will disappear in the brush. Infantry can get a lot closer than a lazy tanker would think just by using bushes and crawling through tall grass and tiny ruts in the ground.
@StumpfForFreedom
@StumpfForFreedom 3 ай бұрын
Never underestimate what a cocky 18 year old hopped up on the tales of Homer will try.
@brenwoodard9956
@brenwoodard9956 3 ай бұрын
For anyone who hasn't seen, there's open source reporting that both sides in Ukraine are receiving clothing and or ponchos with thermal reduction linings. This stuff's out there, and it's just gonna keep getting better and more widely proliferated.
@paulbarclay4114
@paulbarclay4114 3 ай бұрын
The us military has been working on it for 40 years They have advanced tech in this field
@yfelwulf
@yfelwulf 3 ай бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 40 years they have Jack shit
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 3 ай бұрын
@@yfelwulf lmao the military has had thermal camouflage for decades. Where do you think SAAB got the technology for their Barracuda nets? Heck, militias working at the southern border have had thermal camouflage for almost a decade now. It's need to know.
@SilverShamrockNovelties
@SilverShamrockNovelties 3 ай бұрын
Some of the information leaked about the 2014 incident here in PA that resulted in a 48 day manhunt has been pretty interesting as to how the perp evaded law enforcement helicopters equipped with FLIR.
@A9S15J5E9M806
@A9S15J5E9M806 3 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more . Town was a mess because of him . He was a shit shot too .
@victorygarden556
@victorygarden556 3 ай бұрын
Good find
@user-qj6vg8gp3l
@user-qj6vg8gp3l 3 ай бұрын
@@A9S15J5E9M806 A mess bc of the stupid cops. Wasting so much time, energy, tax dollars to chase down one guy who they would find anyway if they just waited a little bit. I've seen police work in Asia, in some ways they are much smarter than us. They let the criminal think he got away and no one is looking for him then when he reveals himself they pounce. Much more efficient, just as effective, and doesn't disrupt society.
@FederalMenace
@FederalMenace 3 ай бұрын
Can you recommend a synopsis source?
@SilverShamrockNovelties
@SilverShamrockNovelties 3 ай бұрын
@@FederalMenaceit’s all back channel stuff now. I really don’t want to promote it because what that scumbag did was kinda heinous. In summary, the perp was intimately familiar with the terrain, and was a self-taught survivalist. When he couldn’t rely on overhead tree canopy, he was laying in shallow depressions and covering himself with a Zeltbahn (the guy was also a WW2 reenactor). It was believed he was using a rock outcropping to keep the shelter half suspended, which either intentionally or unintentionally helped him hide from thermal observation. He finally succumbed to hunger, exhaustion, and cold, which led him to seek shelter in a hangar at a small inactive airport. The police caught up to him and “accidentally”caved his face in while arresting him when he surrendered. He escaped into the forest on foot when his getaway vehicle slid off the road into a body of water, so a lot of his survival gear got ditched when he bailed out of the car. It’s been speculated that he might have remained at large for much longer if he hadn’t needed to abandon his supplies.
@destroyerofgear
@destroyerofgear 3 ай бұрын
be careful when you use the mylar in conjunction with other materials. It stops radiant heat transfer but not conductive heat transfer, so it's great in a hide site to keep your radiant body heat from slowly heating up your barrier materials, but if it directly touches those barrier materials it can actually heat them faster in some cases.
@cameronmccorison6997
@cameronmccorison6997 3 ай бұрын
Also tried mixing it into a ghillie suit once... not fun to move around in
@YTisAbunchOFfascists
@YTisAbunchOFfascists 3 ай бұрын
North Mountain Gear NMG version, 3D camo works great. Its a mesh base, which breaths, 3d leaves act as temperature diffusers, plus you can sit down and someone will step on you before they see you. I bought mine to fit over winter clothes, but it turned out to be super effective by layering the mesh and 3d leaves. ATN gen 4 scope didnt find me until I pulled my hood back.
@neilcastell6951
@neilcastell6951 3 ай бұрын
certain weather condition, when humid or in fog/mist can also make thermal scopes next to useless, conversely in cold crisps conditions it works better than normal,
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary 3 ай бұрын
On point brother! The key is definitely spatial offset to prevent the heat transfer, nailed it. 👊
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding presentation as always. You did a fantastic job of research. This was never taught ever in my time as an infantryman in my career. This should be taught at both the Army and Marine infantry schools as a basic cirriculum for setting observation posts and fighting positions.
@karamelles98
@karamelles98 3 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this sort of video for a long time. Very informative and wholesome. Thank You.
@protectpersevere2030
@protectpersevere2030 3 ай бұрын
Great video man. I agree natural vegetation and overhead cover is the best option
@paulzimmerman3895
@paulzimmerman3895 3 ай бұрын
Totally helpful in understanding the differences in camo cover for thermal mitigation. Thank you for putting that info together.
@destroyerofgear
@destroyerofgear 3 ай бұрын
Best defense against a thermal sensor will always be smart use of dead space. In my testing(videos on my channel) i've found that a woobie poncho provides the best wearable signature mitigation that isn't overly encumbering because the material doesn't cling to the body (maintaining some level of offset) and is insulating. There will be hot-spots near the shoulders, where the weight of the garment presses it down onto your body, but you can cut a piece of reflectix insulation to wear over your shoulders and around your neck to prevent this. I usually throw my USGI poncho ontop of the woobie since it's better at matching the ambient temperature.
@strat1960s
@strat1960s 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for creating this video.
@rubyplay33
@rubyplay33 3 ай бұрын
Nowadays, you have to treat concealment at night the same as daylight. Everything will be line of sight.
@chrislloyd4984
@chrislloyd4984 3 ай бұрын
Interesting and informative, as always! 👍
@PegasusTests
@PegasusTests 3 ай бұрын
Good solid info as always!
@VikrantSingh-se2zb
@VikrantSingh-se2zb 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for vital information about how to mitigate thermal energy signature.
@winningproductions520
@winningproductions520 3 ай бұрын
A rectangular piece of perspex to fit inside your pack. Maybe shoulder width wide. You can use it as a viewing port in a concealed LP/OP from the prone position. Gives you a clear view but blocks your thermal signature. Throw some overhead cover up and you're good.
@ryan38315
@ryan38315 3 ай бұрын
Great info, thanks
@ianandresen2326
@ianandresen2326 3 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Thank you
@TheNoMoMrNiceGuy
@TheNoMoMrNiceGuy 3 ай бұрын
H O O A H - Well done as always Brent - drive on hero !
@huntersrauwolf
@huntersrauwolf Ай бұрын
Great video! This is something I've been curious about for a while having watched a lot of footage out of Ukraine.
@shooter31m
@shooter31m 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding!
@stevemontana5974
@stevemontana5974 3 ай бұрын
Thankyou, excellent video!
@katsugi183
@katsugi183 3 ай бұрын
Yeah thermal and night optical devices has advance a lot. Definitely a good video. Thanks for sharing
@mallninjarising
@mallninjarising 3 ай бұрын
fascinating problem set of the modern battlefield
@TL-uk2zj
@TL-uk2zj 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@hedonisticpunkvatos
@hedonisticpunkvatos 3 ай бұрын
great info!
@or6060
@or6060 3 ай бұрын
i was surprised to see your username when i sold the ULCANS on ebay a while back!
@worgmaster2213
@worgmaster2213 3 ай бұрын
Very informative as always. Thank you
@stealthstalkerghillie
@stealthstalkerghillie 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff buddy!
@jarhead3038
@jarhead3038 3 ай бұрын
great information
@a45456565
@a45456565 3 ай бұрын
Thank you😺
@joeyperez8581
@joeyperez8581 3 ай бұрын
Awesome, thnx
@mateo1726
@mateo1726 3 ай бұрын
Love your thoughts on the new holosun RD/thermal sight
@frogmaster83
@frogmaster83 3 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff. I like the videos where you explain and show gear, rather than just hiding in it. (that is still interesting though) Regards JB. UK/South Coast. 👌
@angrytemplar7675
@angrytemplar7675 3 ай бұрын
Tbf, he usually does the hiding vids after he does a video taking about it, which is nice to see how the camos work in the field
@gmz1997
@gmz1997 3 ай бұрын
Thermal signature is about ambient temps and achieving that with clothing. Contrasting temps at the extremes end of either spectrum are far more difficult and in those cases breaking up the signature will be the most you can hope for while still being mobile.
@dn88s
@dn88s 3 ай бұрын
Definitely some smart ideas. I have a cheap thermal and it's useful but it's not x-ray vision.
@dn88s
@dn88s 3 ай бұрын
@@Kinetic.44 that's true. I was trying to hide it but my thermal can see through walls too. I'm watching you right now.
@David-qx8jm
@David-qx8jm 3 ай бұрын
​@@dn88sexcept for those times you appear to reach over and take a drink of something......
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 3 ай бұрын
@@Kinetic.44 That's false, thermal can't see through walls. That's not how it works. There is a device that can detect objects through walls using radio waves much like sonar, however it only works physically against the wall and it doesn't produce an image, only hot spot lines. Israel is pretty much the only country that uses it.
@dellawrence4323
@dellawrence4323 3 ай бұрын
The mesh material is called hessian, it's what British mailbags used to be made from.
@aldonunez5082
@aldonunez5082 3 ай бұрын
Great timing like always!! Semper Fi
@swalker157
@swalker157 3 ай бұрын
Could you do a post about the effectiveness of a usgi individual camo veil, for thermal?
@improvisedsurvival5967
@improvisedsurvival5967 3 ай бұрын
Look at Russian Ratnik shelter. Good piece of kit.
@danielbeach4855
@danielbeach4855 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the hard work making this video, you crayon eater! LOL!!!!! Great material!
@TheGunNerd
@TheGunNerd 3 ай бұрын
Thoughts on scrim tied to/wrapped on the sleeves and pants?
@richstone2627
@richstone2627 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff as always. Thank you
@johnflenaly6322
@johnflenaly6322 3 ай бұрын
@brent0331, when are you going to test the new IANPAT?
@donatoeufemia6029
@donatoeufemia6029 3 ай бұрын
Major majorum ❤
@SumSneakyDudes
@SumSneakyDudes 3 ай бұрын
Stay frosty, brothers
@garyellis1862
@garyellis1862 3 ай бұрын
Thk u
@robertjordan4755
@robertjordan4755 3 ай бұрын
@brent0331, what brand was that last Cammie net at 9:00min?
@ivankalash2696
@ivankalash2696 3 ай бұрын
What was the smaller weapon mounted thermal in the begining half of the video?
@jasestrong
@jasestrong 3 ай бұрын
Where did you get the woodland uniform ? Or did you have it made?
@clintoncyrilvoss4287
@clintoncyrilvoss4287 3 ай бұрын
Perspex man it's awesome. No heat sig
@bg_azn
@bg_azn 3 ай бұрын
Cant wait for the drone video to come out!
@Grunt-Barra
@Grunt-Barra 3 ай бұрын
Hell, I've got a thermal overlay for my PVS14 in this day and age
@THERESISTANCE762
@THERESISTANCE762 3 ай бұрын
What is the name of the modern camp netting?
@stephenpalano2188
@stephenpalano2188 3 ай бұрын
I have used the beez combat systems spectraflage thermal blanket with great results!!
3 ай бұрын
They make great kit.
@SilverShamrockNovelties
@SilverShamrockNovelties 3 ай бұрын
Everyone knows that you can achieve the same thing with a flannel shirt. Plus flannel makes you flick your safety on and off a lot faster.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 3 ай бұрын
That's a pricey bit of kit!
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff amigo.
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 ай бұрын
Boom
@twboegel2918
@twboegel2918 3 ай бұрын
Good show. Ya heard of agent orange ... the defoliant? Should peepses become an issue and be difficult to subdue due to natural vegetation, guess what. Another issue, take a gander at google map and you'll notice that throughout much of the us, where once natural forest provided a habitat for creatures no longer exist but instead land stripped of such to provide for gmo crops for the manufacture of ... crap.
@user-qj6vg8gp3l
@user-qj6vg8gp3l 3 ай бұрын
I believe that stuff is outlawed.
@twboegel2918
@twboegel2918 3 ай бұрын
@@user-qj6vg8gp3l For public consumption, sure. Formula been slightly altered, been renamed and repackaged with same end results. In any case, a contingency is in place to address difficult to get along with peepses.
@NoOneIsGoingToSaveYou
@NoOneIsGoingToSaveYou 3 ай бұрын
If past military thermals and night vision is available to civilians now so what does the Military have access to now?
@davidleonard1813
@davidleonard1813 3 ай бұрын
I saw a channel where a guy got some black concreting plastic como spray paited it up and was totally invisible
@tobbenn761
@tobbenn761 3 ай бұрын
Is the camo net SAAB barracuda??
@DontDoDaylight
@DontDoDaylight 3 ай бұрын
You’re the man!
@saharafox8209
@saharafox8209 3 ай бұрын
Much needed nice Yut!
@farmerwayne1404
@farmerwayne1404 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff Brent! Btw, what is the rigg your using? Ty...
@Brent0331
@Brent0331 3 ай бұрын
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@farmerwayne1404
@farmerwayne1404 3 ай бұрын
@@Brent0331 10.4 looks great! Ty...
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@bricks7790
@bricks7790 3 ай бұрын
Is that this guy make a video bout training for army? Bout 3-5 strength type of trainings
@eltenda
@eltenda 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting!
@user-pj1nw2hb3x
@user-pj1nw2hb3x 3 ай бұрын
I have thermal and night-vision optics and I also have Anti-IR (IR resistant) clothing. The stuff wasn't cheap, but it's a must on the modern battlefield with drones and all the other garbage a guy has to watch out for these days.....
@user-qj6vg8gp3l
@user-qj6vg8gp3l 3 ай бұрын
What brand did you buy, and how well did it hold up when you looked at it through thermals?
@user-pj1nw2hb3x
@user-pj1nw2hb3x 3 ай бұрын
UF PRO, the Gen 3 stuff renders you virtually, invisible, but get your wallet out.@@user-qj6vg8gp3l
@MrCobb-rq8iv
@MrCobb-rq8iv Ай бұрын
@6:15 I heard the crow counting; did you know they talk in digital?
@user-qj6vg8gp3l
@user-qj6vg8gp3l 3 ай бұрын
They IR/heat blocking spray paint but the companies that make it do not sell to civilians.
@CorsairTrainers
@CorsairTrainers 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff.
@hooks4638
@hooks4638 3 ай бұрын
Best thing to do (obviously) is get thermals if you can, find someone who has them, or get everyone in your group (you should have a group) to chip in. Make a list of everything and everyway you can think of to test what works and what doesn’t. Bottom line, that's the only way to do it. That's the only way to be confident. We all know how powerful thermals can be but, until you get out there and hands on you're at a disadvantage.
@kurtbaier6122
@kurtbaier6122 Ай бұрын
SOL Survive Outdoors Longer Mylar sheet is quiet and tear resistant and inexpensive, I safety pin mine to a poncho liner
@Soildus
@Soildus 3 ай бұрын
Good video but one item I don't hear anyone talking about that would work good against thermal is glass or any clear plastic. Thermal cannot see through it at all. Not something you would probably carry on you but would be good to use for a LP/OP setup. I got several 13"x18" clear pvc table top covers for $12 off Amazon. Its very flexible, easy to form to any shape, waterproof, probably more durable than a tarp b/c they are usually thicker and you can see through it. Probably would need to use other cover like camo nets or natural vegetation in front it so you're not see by the naked eye. Maybe even spray a little camo paint on it to reduce light reflection.
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 3 ай бұрын
High end thermals can see through thin plastic sheets. That's how the Boston marathon bomber was caught when the helicopter spotted him in a boat under a tarp. My SkeetIR will see through an umbrella at close range.
@Soildus
@Soildus 3 ай бұрын
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj at 5 yards away an 8k thermal scope can't see thur the plastic table covers I got. Buy they're about an ⅛ thick.
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 3 ай бұрын
@@Soildus Oh yeah not that thick. I mean actual sheet. Like painters cloth kind of material.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 3 ай бұрын
ALSO, is there any information coming about covering the face? In your comparisons, your face stood out like a spotlight! I actually wonder if the old mosquito head nets would help.
@twboegel2918
@twboegel2918 3 ай бұрын
Get a helmet cover and small cell bubble wrap, some burlap and some netting that strands of burlap can be woven through / into. Bubble wrap goes inside the cover (insulation) the burlapped netting over that (camo) set all this on your noggin & shoulders. Use glue to hold it all together.
@Korruptor
@Korruptor 3 ай бұрын
It should (no means to test yet). Obviously we both recognize the temp gradient and stand-off distance. The mesh size is what will absorb or block most of that radiant temperature as glass does, though conduction from the body or exhalation would be the next concern.
@Democratic_Industrialism
@Democratic_Industrialism 3 ай бұрын
Thermal blankets will no shit hide your heat signature
@combatbattalion6
@combatbattalion6 3 ай бұрын
Ty Brent
@Former11BRAVO
@Former11BRAVO 3 ай бұрын
Being a civilian-owner of both thermal and IR NVG, I can attest that there is no ideal solution readily available to conceal us from both methods of observation, simultaneously - at least, not while on the move (without over-heating the individual). A prepared position is another matter, however. Natural materials combined with things like "radiant barrier thermal insulation" (not space blankets) will work to a great degree, but only for aerial observation of a prepared position and you've still got to consider how you will observe your sector of responsibility from within your position without being observed from the ground. It's a tough nut to crack. Even one's breath and built-up body temps in a confined space can give you away. Yeah. It's a motherfucker! Cover yourself with camo-covered anti-thermal and, under IR, you'll look like a walking shrub, right? Without the camo cover, you'll reflect and look like a neon light! Neither is ideal, I wouldn't think.
@elpanchosancho2
@elpanchosancho2 3 ай бұрын
How many wars have you found playboy! Wjere you marsoc
@lowandslow3939
@lowandslow3939 3 ай бұрын
In Infantry AIT in 1982, we were told to NEVER iron our BDU’s because they were impregnated with chemicals that help to reduce our thermal signature. Anyone else hear that? Subbed
@Rokaize
@Rokaize 3 ай бұрын
You can’t iron it but you can wash it in a washing machine? Doesn’t make much sense
@lowandslow3939
@lowandslow3939 3 ай бұрын
@@Rokaize Sure it does. An iron applies a lot more heat to the fabric than a washer or dryer. Since the dawn of time, uniforms were required to be pressed or ironed and creased, so that was a major break from tradition. The military does not break tradition without good reason. Did you serve?
@Rokaize
@Rokaize 3 ай бұрын
@@lowandslow3939 yes I did. And heard similar bizarre advice in the Navy. They told us in boot camp that we can’t use our NWUs (naval working uniforms) in salt water because there’s a special dye in the fabric that turns yellow when exposed to salt. To signal for rescue in case you went overboard. Makes absolutely no sense. What happens if you sweat in your working uniform? Does it turn yellow? No. It was just some fallacious anecdote someone dreamed up And in your example, yeah an iron might apply more heat but if that’s a concern then surely being soaked and blasted with chemicals like bleach would result in issues for the special fabric
@Brent0331
@Brent0331 3 ай бұрын
I never heard of what you're talking about. however, I did hear them say that we weren't supposed to use starch on our uniforms while pressing it because it would make our uniforms IR signature stand out. However, try being a Marine in the woodland utilities era and not having a pressed starched uniform in garrison. We all used it.
@lowandslow3939
@lowandslow3939 3 ай бұрын
@@Rokaize That bright yellow stain at the crotch would be embarrassing.
@hammer8771
@hammer8771 3 ай бұрын
If the big game can beat FLIR, you can too.
@griftinggamer
@griftinggamer 3 ай бұрын
Umbrellas gentlemen, umbrellas.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 3 ай бұрын
Nice intro! A poncho was my first thought; how well would a poncho worn as a cloak help to break up a man's shape while walking? As you point out, invisibility is pretty much impossible in the field, but anything that makes the wearer less noticeable is a help.
@robertgarcia217
@robertgarcia217 3 ай бұрын
Love the huge round guy waddling around. Must be a para militia😂
@johnlindsey285
@johnlindsey285 3 ай бұрын
You in Texas? We need to talk. 2/75th Ranger
@Fubidenl-bx7se
@Fubidenl-bx7se 3 ай бұрын
Take two woobies sow them togetjer with 2 space blankets in between then net and gillie use veg wen u got full kit and pack it keep off ur body and allows air between u and the inner liner can be used for over head cover as well just rig like a poncho over a fox hole works great give it a try
@theodorekaczynski8147
@theodorekaczynski8147 3 ай бұрын
For the survival blanket, does painting it with something like rustoleom camo spray paint mess it up?
@tacticaltrioadventure5224
@tacticaltrioadventure5224 3 ай бұрын
I can’t find that cammo netting mesh can some one tell me we’re to find it thanks
@Giveadogabone
@Giveadogabone 3 ай бұрын
So basically throw some camo and netting over your position so you don’t get clapped
@theroller5673
@theroller5673 2 ай бұрын
Nighttime is for sleeping. Find caves or sleep underground.
@thatoneguy985
@thatoneguy985 3 ай бұрын
Morning from north idaho
@thediscernist1606
@thediscernist1606 3 ай бұрын
In my experience I have found that you do not necessarily need to completely conceal your thermal signature so long as you have a good understanding of what the rest of your environment looks like in IR. In nature there are hot spots everywhere, and if you can break up the human outline enough such that you don't appear human or large enough to be human, this can be sufficient to fool the human observer using that technology to try to detect you. Unfortunately this means you need first-hand experience in knowing what your environment looks like at different times of the day under IR in order to effectively blend in. It is worth mentioning that one of mother nature's hot spots once fooled me into believing a man was in the prone observing the edge of a clearing right until I got close enough to step on him - only to find roots and dirt.
@brinsonharris9816
@brinsonharris9816 3 ай бұрын
Saw a vid where a guy used one of those Mylar foil emergency blankets to hide from FLIR. Problem is you can’t move, you have to lay still under it.
@johnneill5960
@johnneill5960 3 ай бұрын
Thermal availability has changed the game . That and drones warfare will never be the same
@wildcat8598
@wildcat8598 3 ай бұрын
Jokes on you. I’m dead inside anyway so I doubt I’ll give off any thermal footprint. Similar to a zombie or a vampire 😂
@garyterwilliger1456
@garyterwilliger1456 3 ай бұрын
Why not just upgrade to the mk1 gen 2 mod 0 eyeball? It's bionic! Just blink to activate. S. Austin.....
@ironteacup2569
@ironteacup2569 3 ай бұрын
At the end of the day it’s about stand off added to breaking up the shape of the blocking material
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