I like dak pack lol

A Discord would be great to discuss Gley build (I can also share my findings with Afterglow Sword on it as well), also I knew sub 20 is very possible with Vestigial Organ. Nice build.

@@Unknown-pq7kf I'll start building or get this discord built tonight and have it up so we can all chill out in there

Yesss plz

Yes discord plz 🙏

If it going to be the “best” or actually min maxed it’s going to have to be expensive time or money based. Learning how to do things your own and read/ theory craft goes a long way.

We are mostly all f2p, doesn't mean my character is all unlocked in every slot.

Happy to help my friend, thanks for checking out the vids

Wait you can buy your way out of grinding? I don't remember seeing any packs that let you power up so quick

@@unskillfullymasterful basically you can if you spend 500 bucks on all of the ultimate packs - then you have 5 quick slot thingies...but idk people just keep saying "i am f2p" or "as a f2p" this game endgame builds are ALL f2p nothing requires you to buy anything - i have a 6 slotted farm bunny - 7 slotted buff slave/unkillable tank yujin and do every content in the game easily

I mean gley doesn't really need I nerf because you got Lepic who can kill Devour in 5s

D4 needs to learn from tfd and not nerf barb 100x over

The problem comes into the fact that some builds are straight up broken, it seems more like they didn't do enough testing, which makes the game come off as a sloppy broken mess rather than an actually intended choice. The biggest sign of this is that while some characters are ridiculously good, with builds that are idiotic, other characters are practically useless, and definitely useless in comparison. Like this build, Enzo, the ammo guy, can do a sad attempt at this, but he's less tanky, has to reload, has to wait for CD, and is limited by MP. There is ZERO reason to use him rn as the whole "infinite ammo" meta is just easier and better. Why would you use Esiemo, or Blair, or Valby? Anything they can do others can do better. Yujin? More like "Y"useless. The only reasons they're not nerfing things that are plainly too strong, is: 1. They really don't care about the game, only thing they care is $$$ 🤑💰 2. They're trying to keep the "honeymoon" period going for as long as they can, so are tiptoeing around making the community angry and not making any decisions that'll lose them money, even if it improves the game.

I appreciate you! Trying to cook up some more stuff for us asap

i still don't know why all ppl crying about infinite ammos whike Lepic can melt boss way way faster than Gley. and all descendant can easily solo hard boss if they invest enough.

yea I think it was a great response

Have one up and running now discord.gg/UV2k5c78 . Thanks for checking out the vids

@FunkyBro1ToThe10 I appreciate you! Shout out Moxsy, we've been cool for some years now

glad to help!

I appreciate you my man

@@smokeyninja2530 let's goo

no problem at all, glad to help out!

thanks for checking it out!

Regular gley has a better default outfit so thats one reason default gley is better.

Correct

you are correct

@@zacort about to do all the damage

I appreciate you! I wanted to make sure I include everybody, this game has so much in it and plus with time stamps I figure everyone can get to where they need by jumping around. Just having a "this is endgame" clip doesn't help a whole lot lmao

Gonna have to do the full song for one of these builds. A melee something would be fantastic with the song

@@Va5e1er thanks for checking it out

np at all my man, I just added a discord for everyone discord.gg/UV2k5c78

thanks for checking out the vids, the bottom sub stats will still work regardless of what weapon you have

song is too good

nice

We're looking at Afterglow Sword mainly but Python and one of the shotguns I forgot the name interest me

I would put the mod over the blue weak point mod instead for sure. I ended up using weak point a bit later so in terms of progression it was what I did first

I'll take a look at it, we have a good few weapons to grind out lol

it's probably around 3 or 4 seconds. Not really that bad

huge, let me know how it is. Any clips would be dope as well

@@dakquan it didn’t really feel that useful tbh. It was ok for mobbing but since with the build there isn’t much speced into skill damage it wasn’t too impactful. For bosses it’s probably better to use the cost for health mods sadly. I thought it would auto detonate the orbs but it instead uses your 2 for it. So you can also accidentally grab life orbs in spots that would be good to detonate later

@howbob4118 thanks for taking a look at it. Maybe we can build around it

@@dakquan no problem.I think it might be able to work as a cool mobbing build for gley but not really for rocket gley.

Organ is still great and is going to be our main mobbing weapon for sure. Can feel comfortable putting some into it but I would wait a bit if you want more bossing potential because we have some weapons that need a bit of investment for those to flourish there. The vestigial is best bang for the buck and will get us through all content though

replying on Phone for whatever reason doesn't actually work so sorry for the late response. It's a solid weapon but we have better ones. Unless the maxed out unique effect is really good which I'm not sure about

it does, I ended up double checking. I also responded to this on the phone last week but for some reason it didn't go through. Sorry about that

Glad to help!

been farming python and afterglow parts for past 2 days. Definitely will give them a look. We have been cooking up inside the discord

@@dakquan Not in any discord , Will you release a Build Guide soon ? Just farmed 2 Energy activators and 20 Catalysts and wanted to start with Ultimate Gley tomorrow. Would it be clever to wait ? ( Talking about Boss-Killer solely. I have a fully moduled Ultimate Bunny for all other Content, which melts bosses aswell , and my goal is to surpass that )

yotuube replies truly don't work when they should sometimes. After a few tweaks that massacre set up should be good to go

It's in the first 3 minutes where we cover what's needed for the loop should be around 2:30

@angelskyd Agony is decent but we have higher defense options. Don't need both of those guns it was to showcase those real quick A sniper or scout there would be better for sure if you already have your rifle or smg in the first slot

@@xavieralubis need to add polarity to the slot

thanks for checking out the vid. I'm at 9.9 and 9.3. We can go into 10 a little bit and still not have any downtime due to the animation

They are some dope characters

let me know how it goes!

Definitely an option

I appreciate you! It's due to cool down giving much better return than duration. 6 cooldown is pretty drastic

honestly shot focus if it works on launchers would be more consistent and better than both. Problem is getting it. It does not have a drop so you probably have to combine for it

@iogxu shot focus doesn't work so fire rate is the angle if you can hit the shots

Skill Cooldown on your Reactor

thanks for checking out the vids, I've definitely seen some wild set ups

they flipped the blues to golds lol. So whatever was higher value before is just a better color. I had a double gold prepped and it is not what I want to wear now

Launcher is stronger faster. If you have more investment in Eternal due to the nature of having more things to invest in it should be closer but for a higher cost. I'll have to play around with numbers a bit and the math to give a definite answer

it might be the way the hp and such is scaling that is the issue. 400 extra hp from a substat since we invest so much in it is huge

Leveling somewhat equally would work out better due to the cost of mods going up with each upgrade but I'd focus on Defense and Hp almost to max first and go for some other strong blues mods

@@dakquan Got it, thanks. Loving the vids btw, keep it up! Looking forward to that discord :)

Got the discord up and running discord.gg/UV2k5c78

it still works. Firearm ATK is a pretty inconsistent stat unfortunately. Some sources end up working and some don't. It goes by a case by case basis

activator and polarity

If you want another weapon that is not launcher, I think Afterglow Sword and Executor might both out damage Vestigial Organ. Piercing Light have a worse Ultimate Effect so maybe look at those.

yea Afterglow is looking like one of our next picks. Piercing buff removal is cool against the first Hard Boss but for some reason they didn't give many more enemies something to dispell

I was trying to farm for the afterglow sword,I think that the python smg caught my attention.I think it has some real potential

yea we have some farming to do for a few different weapons

​@@MxshrxxmsPython is really good, the only problem is her low base crit rate, and it doesnt scales well with weapon rolls and mods

I've tested a decent bit here's a clip streamable.com/hia0v2 we can see that the number for the explosion and the dot itself increase. Firearm attack sometimes works and sometimes doesn't for launchers. It's inconsistent depending on source

@@dakquan I’ve done some further testing after watching your vod and looks like you’re correct. No clue how I missed the increasing damage the more you shoot, but looks like total damage output is only a few % difference in favour of using predator instinct, however if you miss a few rockets near the end, you miss a large portion of dmg making it worse

@RhythmofResonance I'd have to see the scaling on the unique with more copies. I did shoot it a bit and it's not too bad it's just Organ is super good

@@dakquan the organ does seem very strong. do you recommend i run organ or python? saw in your latest vid that you are testing python curently and i heard the polarities on gley are diff for both builds.

if you want to invest in something long term to progress Python. If you want to be able to beat the whole game cheap now then Organ

@@dakquan ah thank you

@Nenthus there's a montage killing every hard mod boss solo in the video before this and have a frost walker kill in here as well. Just takes a little bit of aiming where they will be. Not too hard to adjust to. Even have max weakpoint stacks pretty often

yea it's going to be a grind for sure

I've heard good thing about demonic but haven't messed with it yet

@@jankev my character is at 40

@@dakquan thank you so much! will definitely sub and follow for more content from gley. thank you

I assume it’s because it doesn’t matter with this specific build. You’re going for infinite ammo so what matters is the cooldown. The skill isn’t buffing the damage, only allowing the constant loop. If it were for his Z ability then it would matter.

Demigod is right, we are just here for the cooldown. More skill power doesn't do much for this set up at all

Yea I felt tankier partially due to healing more with hp collector. At most I'd run 1 defense in this set up if you have good sub stats on components

@@dakquan preciate it

For a sniper build

I'd have to look at access - and then module for a good spot. I got mine through rng. You can combine for one though

it does and we lose 15% explosive on Predator Instinct before we get the boost so we do a little less and then a little bit more pretty much eating up a slot for no reason

@Unknown-77789 Afterglow Sword and Python are looking like guns that will out pace the 3 mentioned with enough investment. I'd have to check the math but a 10 mod Tamer should be able to out pace an Organ but you need so much more investment on something that is also much worse at mobbing on top of there being better options in general

@@dakquan Alr can you let me know when your done with the math on the other two so I know which one I should build

@@dakquan have you messed with the blue beetle I heard it is really good

He said in the video that you can use it, but it's not much of a bump, so he doesnt.

Conductor ends up eating up the special mod slot and if we hit our shots the weakpoint into firearm increase is going to be better. The increase from priority isn't that great of a bump but can be added on later with enough space

It uses CD instead of duration because the objective is to make the skill last longer than the cooldown time, this way you can activate the skill whenever the duration ends.

thanks for checking out the vids! 1) Can pick what element you would like Electric does well against several endgame bosses. Ideally you go with one that has a dot. 2) Want a combination of both but Cooldown is a better value to reduce due to it starting at 40

I stayed up the night before trying to build around the cap and then saw the update lmao. Definitely good news with the removal of it

The Immortal set up with Gley would be a great base and then potentialy swap out one of the bulky mods for cd if you want a clean loop or "Shot Focus" mod that you have to combine for as far as I know. It has firearm damage but we'd have to check if that would apply to Launchers. It is very inconsistent. We have other weapons we're boosting up right now that could outdps the launcher and could use up more slots. If you did want to do more with the launcher elemental priority that is boosting up the rifling reinforcement and element of the weapon would be the best bet. Crit and Crit damage don't really do anything for the Launcher

@@dakquan Allright ill give it a try and see what modules i can fit in with the base of yours. Good to know that crit is useless . Hope its worth it to fully module it. Feels awkward if you just use like 6/10 Module slots because there's nothing more to take .

@@dakquan One more question , about the reactor. I heard the reactor itself is pretty useless i just aim for Duration + Skill cooldown modifier. So The colour is pretty much not relevant for any dps output or whatnot right?

@@stefanboehle9682 for this build yes

@stefanboehle9682 we're cooking up numbers on some other weapons as well. Organ is still going to be the mobbing weapon but we have some alternatives for bossing

@Dcraziii yea I've soloed every fight that is available to solo in the game with a worse version of this

I did the mining mission in Sterile Land

@@dakquan thanks mate, I forgot about that one.

I'm 100% sure they nerfed the xp in that mission. In the past it would take 3 missions done to first reward to level up.

I'll have to check, that would be unfortunate

this.

I talked about both of those in the video, they don't work for the launcher but would be good for other guns for sure

@@dakquan I must have missed that! Thats interesting, thank you for the comment!

it's all good, they were very smalll inserts. I should have had it in text on the side honestly since it's so relevant

@@dakquan crit dmg tamer should be able to equal the launcher then

I did Anticipated Ambush point

Its not possible on all 4 Componens. If im Corrects its just the aux + Memory that can have both .

yea only certain can roll it

rng'd while pushing unfortunately. I'd have to check access module

Tab -> access info -> module

about to be gaming

@@bfrfoxtrot I've seen an increase in health drops as I've used it. I believe consumable crafting is the item drop rate modifier

Don't really need Super Sense

Yes, do not use Supersense you will lose a lot of DPS, but in general Afterglow Sword is probably a better option than Vestigial Organ.

That portion was for those that aren't invested in the Launcher so they have a visual of how much they get for 50. There is a late game set up that has things matching with the polarity slots and such. You definitely want to match the slots and fill out all you can

@@dakquan thanks for clarifying!

They are real sneaky with some of these boosts lmao

we lose the explosive attack on the base frenzy is the issue. So we start worse and end up slightly better

@@dakquan I see, but what does the "explosive" attack means? Is it like a different type of physical attack? Or is it some kind of on-hit effect?

I think it's firearm attack but for launchers with added classification. Firearm boosting the launcher is very inconsistent with the sources though. Which is a pretty decent sized problem

it is on all the vestigial

@dakquan you absolute legend, big king energy, ive been working on gley for ages but didn't want to over invest on a potentially weak version of vestigial

what is on your reactor? Can try out double "focus on" mods and work backwards from there

@dakquan I just hit hard mode last night so my reactor isn't the best, has a gold roll on skill cooldown though

@@darkpaladin111 gold = bad for cooldown unfortunately (unless they fixed)

yea she'll still perform well without the red mod. Although Massacre is higher damage right now I do favor the infinite ammo set up and working on a variation of it

is massacre better on console still even though they have the minis damage due to frame rate

@@JakeDroops i haven't heard word that they changed anything regarding the framew rate so I'm not sure. I would lean towards it still being the same as before

Did you watched the entire video? At 7:35 he shows a Ultimate Gley build.

My fault daddy. I was skipping past things in this video. And in a previous video he said he would do a build specifically for ult gley but didnt realize it. Thanks for pointing it out though daddy ​@ghoststriker6583

my fault daddy is wild lmao

Building out the community discord now, not sure how quality the official discord gamers are. Blood and iron is great for high crit massacre builds. We can't heal from getting the resource back from crits

@@dakquan alright I wasn’t sure if getting the resource back from blood and iron gave hp but since it doesnt heal that takes down survivability so it makes sense why you dont use it

the one I killed the boss with was the dps build. You could kill Devourer with the very starter set up technically but would need to not get hit and have a strong enough launcher lol

@@MatjeBalovich facts

what does it say when you hover over the skill itself?

@@dakquan I realized it was my lack of a reactor w the right sub stats thanks for answering

@@cursemarked555 glad you have it runnin!

Not worth imo, its okay for Bunny cause she can Take a good use of 2 ascendant mods, gley otherwhise mostly Not worth using even 1 and the stats doesn rly matter

@cursedshikikan it's 1800 defeat 40 but you'll be perfectly fine without it. Something to keep in mind are the 2 other Red mods she can get

Yes they will

@@BabaYaga0713 yessiree

Thanks for replies guys, was curious about this a couple days ago and people told me it would not work that way so I’ve been holding off on it. Appreciate yall. Same with the catalysts right?

yea they both work

lmao

that sounds like a really specific bug and I'm not sure what the fix is lol. Maybe it's frame related or something? First time hearing about something like that

true

defense is just better from what I've read from data farmers and immunity to a dot is nice though