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I remember the crash!

north of Jakarta (north west)... not north of Indonesia... you are welcome 😉

Thats actually pretty clever, what are the odds that the same airline chrashes on the same route twice 😉

Jakarta beautiful.? Not if you know it.

But did he die?, 👀👀

he was not honest about his review, it was not the airline that was at fault but the manufacturer boeing who became famous for betraying this airline, the 737 - the newest Max that we know

@@hollythx Sure maybe the last crash wasn't their fault... but what about the other crashes

Noel mentioned that Lion had an average of one crash every two years but when he took this flight it was three years since the last one. That's a good sign, it suggests that they've improved their safety procedures. Their subsidiary Batik Air which flies to Australia seems to be OK.

@@rais1953It’s sad when your argument is, “See? It’s been 3 years since the last accident. That’s better than the 1 every 2 years they averaged before”. 😂😂

@@Jmotwa87 they should put that on their terminal billboards: "It has been two years since our last crash."

@@Jmotwa87 Yes. But it's a hopeful sign.

@@fitzyman4552 "2 days accident free!"

Facts

Sempati was horrible. I wonder how bad Bouraq was?

@Springbok295 pretty bad. I did them once and it was enough. I have also flown Adam and Batavia. Still alive

I survived multiple Merpati, Indonesian Aerospace C-212 Aviocar flights to and from Jakarta Halim and Cilacap in the late 1980s. Wasn’t brave enough to try Bouraq or Mandala.

how do you get him to get on a plane that has long been bankrupt 😆

Damn you're old af dude, nobody even remember about that particular airline.

I think if an airline is doing manual check-in they will always be looking for some reasonably able bodied people to go in the exit rows. Even if you check in very early they might ask you. On another occasion I was called up just before boarding if I'd swap to an exit row. I said 'Yes please!)😀

Lmao I can't talk about Lion AIr because I'm never flown them but I think some airlines are probably a bit wack like that. I know if there's no one who's assigned to the emergency exit rows they'll look for some fit able-bodied people to move there, my sister and I were once asked while checking in if we wanted to upgrade to emergency exit (Jetstar) but we declined. I reckon if they asked Noel before the flight though maybe no one had booked those seats or the people who were sitting there weren't happy to help?

Is it because foreigners are mostly taller than locals, so they need more leg room, and easier to open the emergency exit window?

​@@Si_nengatcha more leg room and they know white people don't screw stuff up. Jokes

not foreigner necessarily, probably just taller or fitter looking people

If the body not scattered on impact..

Well garuda is national flagship carrier they basically run on gov money.

That answers my question about why anyone would want an aircraft life-jacket. I would not impress anyone if I showed up at my local wearing an aircraft life-jacket. 🤣

Andd because it’s cheap, a lot cheaper than Garuda Indonesia Airways. The only annoying thing that happen to me so far with tgis airline is they can change your departure time to be much earlier. It happened to me pre covid days twice. I booked the last flight on that day and they moved it like 2-3 hours earlier which caused problem since I came from remote regency in west borneo. When i got to the airport, the last flight was actually still available so god knew what they moved my flight earlier. I don’t fly a lot nowadays because covid and I no longer work in Borneo so when I fly these days, they are actually quite punctual. I got delayed due to bad weather tho. Their landing are still not butter

I really wish that Adam Air was still available for in Indonesia, lion group is... Feels like betting my life on the line. Terrible safety records, badly maintenanced plane etc.

@@r3zaful Adam Air? you must be joking, right?

@@r3zaful adam air??? wow i suggest you to read the history of adam air before commenting. lion air isn't good but they are way better than adam air in terms of safety.

Lion Air is better why?? Cuz Adam Air only concerned with money and operating a broken plane. Since the Adam 574 accident, Adam was demanded by the KNKT and the Ministry of Transportation to improve safety for 3 months, but 3 months passed they still didn't change and then went bankrupt in 2008. For Lion air it's still better because they are still holding maintenance but yes it has to improve airline safety and service.

Twice!

He must have nerves of steel.

think about it like this, ppl have a way higher chance to die on a car crash than a place crash. One more thing, pick an airline that have good safety records

Safer than driving just remember

@@Thefallenpea I'd still rather be in a car crash than plane crash. At least I won't be falling thousands of feet out of the sky

@@Thefallenpea Trust me I know all the statistics but my anxiety says No 😅

Many thanks!

Even for the worst airlines in the worst countries, flying is pretty safe and the probability of a crash is low. It's just when compared to Europe, North America etc that it looks very bad in places like Indonesia. You'll be fine!

😂😂😂😂😂 tough luck mate.. cheers from yahukimo

happened to me once too, on their MD flight, i was like tf is this water from aircond? but no it was water leaking from outside 🤣

United flies 737-900s frequently out of IAH (Noel’s home airport)

You're lucky 😂

That's because you're foreigner. If you're locals and complain about it...they probably will told you to swim to ambon.

Please come here mister to Indonesia

Thanks for watching.

Thanks so much!

Oh shit 😂

Wow, that is.... incredible!

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That’s why they’ve failed many times to get FAA approval to fly into the US. Most Indonesian carriers are category 2 meaning the country either lacked laws or regulations necessary to oversee air carriers in accordance with minimum international standards, or its civil aviation authority - a body equivalent to the FAA for aviation safety matters - was deficient in one or more areas, such as technical expertise, trained personnel, record-keeping, or inspection procedures. Garuda, Indonesia the flag carrier has a Category 1 rating but has chosen not to fly to the US due to their geographical focus on Asia.

@@JeanClaudeCOCO Garuda hasn’t flown to US since late 1997. I believe they’ve just cut the flight to London in 2021 due to financial reasons. So far only Amsterdam is the surviving long route this carrier has to offer.

Thank you William!

It is fried rice, you plick.

I think he's flying two different airlines to and from the island as it's just a 90 minute flight and will return to Jakarta on another one in an hour or two. Maybe Batik Air?

@@ninettemurk7492 Batik Air is just another name for Lion Air!

@@tiadaid Seriously? They have different livery on their planes.

@@tiadaid No. It's just that Batik is a "child company" of Lion group. They have different management team and crews than Lion, all newer fleets, and finer services and punctuality according to most frequenters.

Thanks! 😃

Glad you enjoyed it!

No doubt it was a weather diversion. Kuala Lumpur is often the alternate for Singapore.

@@tiadaid It was.

They didn't tell you it was weather?

@@chrispekel5709 Eventually they did, but it caused some people to miss connecting flights.

Glad you enjoyed it

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Thanks!

Not always about the price. Garuda does not cover all of Indonesia, some route in Kalimantan is only flew by Lion or Wings, which is subsidiaries of Lion. Last week I just flew using Wings, 2 properlers, 4 seats wide ATR72 from Balikpapan to Tanjung Selor, very small airport and short runway it is an experience.

city link are famous to

Glad you enjoyed it.

Go to Munduk in Bali. South Bali is too crowded these days

Thank you 😁

Thanks for watching.

Thank you! 😃

super airjet which another lion's subsidiary has better seat pitch that lion itself

@@cinevile technically speaking, on legal document, super air jet is not a subsidiary to lion group, but both owned by the same person, so... of course it's different and better

@@chris22capt its not under lion group?

@@cinevile it's not. It's registered as a independent, separate company from lion group. Lion group's pr confirmed this back when super air jet just start their operational. But because they both owned by the same person, sometimes they are kinda helping each other on operational aspect like maintanence, etc. Lion group's crews that need a ride back to their base after a scheduled flight would sometimes fly on super air jet as an extra crew. But, other than that, it's a separate company. That's why you won't find any lion group's logo painted on super's fleet

I also had an experience on Citilink where I was feeling unwell and they cleared out the entire emergency exit row and got me a pillow and a blanket so I could rest without vomiting. Very kind of them. Indonesians are very considerate of me.

Lion Air don't fly to Australia. Their Indonesian subsidiary Batik does, as does Batik Air Malaysia

its the same in Thailand too

Not pilot error. Boeing error and lack of documentation

As James said, mainly Boeing error and their attempts to keep pace with Airbus. Not excusing Lion Air, but if you watched the documentary, which covered the Ethiopian crash, you would have seen that Boeing admitted it was due to their new system and the lack of training provided by Boeing