畑 is more like describing the primitive way of making new farmland - slash and burn forest and use as farmland for 2 or 3 years while the nutrient from the ash support crops then move on to the next forest for slash and burn. Interesting. Now how they make characters for the smaller elements or phenomena which were not visible nor known previously.

"田field" uses "火fire" to burn straw to fertilize and turns it into a "dry field畑" "田" soaked in "water水", it becomes a paddy field"畓" You can even roughly understand through this that Korea has more dry fields, while Japan has more paddy fields, because "田" in the default state is the most commonly used field in the local area😂😂

in China we say水田 旱田to express畓 畑，旱meams drought，Characters are good but Chara will go to death if you keep creating new Chara to express some homopropertious items with neglecting the word-creating ability.

Some Chara summary the basic element in the word. eg电, in Traditional Chinese電 means the tail of rain(雨)，Simplified kept the tail means electricity, then We have created电视(Electronic visions, or Television) 电子(the essence of electricity, or Electron) by the basic element电。Their is hundruds of others and as Chinese we can create several words randomly in any life scene.

Actually we Japanese often use 水田 for rice paddy.😂

how did 之 becomes し ??? it doesnt even make sense

@@DaniSC_l1 Google Japanese cursive script

I also made the mistake of believing that the Chinese character 之 make hiragana arise え, When it actually arose し, but I still doubt that because it doesn't look similar.

@@slushfilm dude doesnt know what a comment is. Also stop going to reddit my guy

@@erosnunez6238 し is from 之's cursive writing style

it's hard because each character has its tone and pronunciation, completely different from English and other languages that use an alphabet, missing either one completely changes the character, but many characters just have a different radical to differentiate them, so you have to remember all of them

Beautiful? Lol. Tonal languages, and just East Asian languages in general sound horrible. 9 times out of 10 and especially if it’s a woman talking it sounds like an animal is dying. And a lot of their women are pretty, so I’m not just saying this out of racism sake lol

​@@sneedfeed3179still better than ebonic lol

@@ZETA14.88based

​@@danielzhang1916alphabet indicate sound so any sound in Chinese can use alphabet instead use signs to indicate meaning mean you must remember over 20k signs are overwhelmed for people to learn Chinese writing that's why Chinese language is most unpopular hate writing make Chinese so shy scare stiff silent sissy slow square sick shameful sad small with small slantt eye so you folk can focus reading.

Actually quite a few Unicode developers thought that 65,536 code points wouldn't be enough, but there was a big argument about it around 1990 and the folks wanting a smaller size won. And then kinda lost later when they had to expand past that anyway.

They knew they couldn't squeeze every character into 16 bits. The original proposal states that Unicode was to be used for the characters used in modern texts, and obsolete or rare characters shouldn't be conjesting the list of useful characters. They were aware of the problem, but decided to focus on the future, not the past. You have to remember that at the time the development of unicode started 32-bit computers were still rather new.

You probably could if you decompose it.

I mean to be fair. Unicode was supposed to replace the old ISO-2022 based national standards which had a hard limit of 8836 characters. Though Joe Becker's original estimate of extant characters was "far below 16,384". Which turned out to be way off.

@@osoiii The thing is that several platforms, including Java and Windows, were confident enough in only needing 65536 codepoints that they standardized to UCS-2 and haven't been able to change beyond adopting the hack that is UTF-16, which was an attempt at supporting the full range of UCS-4 on platforms otherwise designed for UCS-2. UTF-8 is technically in a similar situation, ultimately being a hack to support UCS-4 on systems originally designed for ASCII, but the smaller code units make the fact that the whole thing is variable width more obvious. (There is also just more software that depends on certain properties of ASCII than than there are that depend on properties of UCS-2.)

Chữ nôm ? Hán tự nhé bro

No kanji and Hanja and Chu Nom in history. Only Hanzi 漢字 in history. Hanji(Chinese characters in Japanese) = wrong Chinese characters

Hanja kanji hanzi hantu

实际上，我们的国家正常使用汉字（），喃字不是越南正式的字

@@tungmeiali1036 喃字看起來比漢字復雜。

Chinese was brought to Japan in the 5th-6th century C.E.

It’s funny, just yesterday I was looking for a good video on this topic but couldn’t find anything, and then this video got recommended to me today! I guess that means the algorithm is doing it’s job. It satisfies my itch for this topic so I’m glad I came across it! I’ll check out this other video too

Chinese writing system is called Hanzi, not Chinese characters.

@@yanyanz3011 that is just for chinese people bro chinese characters are not chinese thing like alphabet in EU japanese characters are kanji and korean characters are hanja

@@kimurahundoshi4485 Chinese Hanzi are not Chinese. Whose are they? Please read more books

After a year of reflection on this video I have to agree with you. While this isn't a scholarly look at character based writing systems, I think I would do it differently if I redid the video today. My assertion that all character writing systems of that area of the world are "漢字" is almost like saying every language using latin letters is latin based, influenced no doubt, but not a necessarily a direct descendent. But I still think this provides an interesting look at the different characters of the orient. Thanks for the comment.

@@InkboxSoftware yeah, definitely. Greek, Latin and Cyrillic are all based on the Phoenician script and they even overlap to some extent. Meanwhile Georgian and Armenian are not. But there is some influence. The situation is kinda similar here.

Chinese writing system is called Hanzi, not Chinese characters.

@@yanyanz3011 well the Mandarin name of it. Japanese name is “Kanji”, Korean name is “Hanja”. I used more of the neutral English naming. Not that wrong; 漢 is “Chinese” and 字 is “letter, writing character”. It’s literally the translation of “Hanzi”.

@@yorgunsamuray I'm sorry, Koreans like to steal the history of other countries and need to be vigilant at all times

I think that character would be pronounced Kang? I think it was an experiment to use chinese characters combine with hangul to increase number of sounds? Or an intermediate script before current Hangul was finalised?

@@KuraSourTakanHourThat "experiment to use hangul with hanja" can't be the case, as the only character that would qualify as hangul is the ㅇ in the bottom. The ㅁ in the top right may seem like one, but no. Since ㅁ is a consonant character, it cannot be there -- it must be a hanja character. There being only 1 character that just barely looks like a hangul character doesn't give much credence to that theory imo.

Chinese writing system is called Hanzi, not Chinese characters.

That's not necessarily true. For example in Hokkien/Min Nan/Taiwanese, many of the spoken words do have corresponding characters in kai style written characters. The only thing is that many of them were ancient and archaic characters that modern Chinese don't use as much. So many people ended up created or using other characters to informally represent that spoken word.

wow, that's so true! I was born in Korea and lived until univ. and now living in Canada, and I don't think I can read most of hanja. lol maybe I remember some numbers and elements words such as fire, water, and tree things. maybe around 20-30 characters? fyi, I learned hanja only in middle school for 3years.

@@pluto1526 Older people can read and write a lot more because it used to be taught and used more widely.

Chinese writing system is called Hanzi, not Chinese characters or Hanja.

Koreans don't care if they can't read historical documents or even news papers 30 years ago.

yap more than younger people but still not like a few thousand or hundred words. My parents would know maybe around 100 characters, and for sure forgot about them a lot by now cuz never use them @@sharpasacueball

Would you count those variations as different characters? I think I would, but I guess that would open a bigger debate on whether different styles count as different characters, as they have different ammounts of strokes

And in the part showing Japanese simplification, Chinese fonts are used, as is clear from 寿 and 箪.

There's a trend to bring back Chinese characters in Korean though

Too many homophones

@@neo.4662source for this claim? it's only falling more and more into obscurity and just a "kids these days don't know this" kind of thing from boomers

Dude I can’t remember how to write one to ten in Chu Nom

That’s so stupid. You picked out a rare example of a multi-character word where the morphemes are bound and not words in of themselves. THAT’S INCREDIBLY RARE. 99%+ of morphemes can and do function as independent words as well as morphemes to construct words. 😂

@@HakuYuki001 99% is a big claim, but it's still true that the majority of words in Chinese are disyllabic, not monosyllabic. Chinese was more monosyllabic in the past, especially true for Classical Chinese, but that has since changed. Also, I was arguing against the claim that Chinese characters represent words. Yes, there are monosyllabic words, but you would then have to explain exceptions of bound morphemes if your claim is that characters represent words. If you can't deal with exceptions, then you have to change your claim being made to account for exceptions to the claim. The fact that there are bound morphemes undermines the idea that characters represent words.

Tbh not really, but I also appreciate the effort

Chinese writing system is called Hanzi, not Chinese characters.

It's called nüshu, not female script

@@yanyanz3011 That's pinyin, what I did is translated them into English.

It's called Hiragana. Ok fine I know what you're talking about. But it's strange that Hiragana became the main writing script in Japan, while the female script in China just fell out of fashion.

We should call them caricatures.

Chinese writing system is called Hanzi, not Chinese characters.

and Vietnam get an education

你忘了越南。越南从古代也用汉字（Hán tự or chữ Hán）。虽然越南的地欧是东南亚，但是我们国家和中国，韩国，朝鲜，台湾，日本 有相同的文化，甚至越南的文化是最像中国的。希望以后你们记得把越南放在东亚文化。越南语有许多汉越词，这些词以古代或者中代的汉语，发音像广东话：结婚（ kết hôn)，中国 (Trung Quốc)，美国( Mĩ quốc,Hoan Kỳ or Mĩ)，身(thân)，同( đồng)，速度(tốc độ)，准备(chuẩn bị)，离婚( li hôn),常(thường)，古代(cổ đại)，车(xe or xa)，公共汽车( xe công cộng)，卫生间( nhà vện sinh)，电话(điện thoại)，脑 (não)，(tim or tâm)心, 房间(phòng)，头(đầu),查(tra), 大使馆(đại sứ quán) 历史(lịch sử)，物理学(vật lí)，化学(hoá học)，数学(toán học)，体育学(thể dục)，大学(đại học)，银行(ngân hàng) 校长(hiệu trưởng),学生(học sinh)，学(học)，雪(tuyết)，密(mật)什么的。另外，字喃 不是越南正式的字，大数的时间我们用汉字。越南人也可读懂汉字的韩国，中国，和日本。我希望这些可以让你们对越南的理解越来越深

Google 篆書印章 篆書印鑑 or 篆書体

I don’t know about that seal in particular, but there was a system of writing Mongolian used by one of the mongol dynasties in China called Phags Pa script and it often was used in seals in a way that looks very similar!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_script here's the wikipedia page on the script used. It's used heavily in official state documents/seals (like passports and government stamps, kind of like a signature). If you load the article in japanese there's much more information so you'll just have to use google translate and look at the pictures. Ultimately it's mainly just a way of making logos look fancy

這基本上是漢字的一種特殊的書寫方式，稱之為“篆書”，常用於政府的印章，是非常嚴肅莊重的

BUT IMAGINE ACTUALLY READING IT!!!!!!

The Simplified Chinese Script is called 簡体字. I heard it's around 2200 new ones but the overall Kanji of 簡体字 are considered around 8000. Because there were probably already a lot of Kanji that were considered simple/easy.

@@danielantony1882 the japanese kanji was simplified after the world war II and they created a list of the most common used, originally were around 1800 but today they are like 2200, not because people today use more kanji but when they made the list they forgot the include some important ones

@@floptaxie68 I'm talking about Chinese Kanji. That's literally what Kanji means.

​@@danielantony1882: HANZI, not "Chinese Kanji".

@@carltomacruz9138 Same thing, bro. Just different pronunciation. I mean, if we're just going with the orignal ownership idea then might as well just call it Kanji. You don't need to get butthurt simply because I'm not calling it Hanzi. It's literally the same thing.

Even mostly Vietnamese people don't give a sh!t to that script. This is a sad reality as Vietnam has given up on Han Nom

@@nomnaday thanks for explaining!

Colonization

Fake nationalism fueled by colonialism

Too outdated too old fashioned too hard to learn n use so why use character writing for instead use spelling system lot easy n faster. That's why nobody use character writing but dumbb Chinese.

Okay, I haven't heard of that, do you know which minorities?

@@InkboxSoftware Tày & Dao (in Vietnamese)

In Taiwan there is the Standard Form of National Characters released by the Ministry of Education. It does look like they have some of their own unique forms of Characters as well, although not like the National Characters from Japan or Korea. Taiwan has only recently (since 1949) been a separate political entity from the mainland and the majority of the educated officials in those early days came from the mainland itself, meaning that they didn't have the same reasons to create National Characters as other nations did because they were, are still are, Chinese. The best way to put it might be that The Standard Form of National Characters is the standard that was set by the Ministry of Education of The Republic of China for the writing of Chinese Characters, which does hold some differences in particular with how the standards are set for the People's Republic of China (mainland China), but does not result in the creation of new Characters unique to that island.

In Taiwan we use traditional Chinese characters instead of simplified Chinese characters,which is the original writing system in Chinese history

Taiwanese as a dialect of Sino language group indeed has many unique vocabularies, and so on the characters for them. And besides the dialect part, on a level of formal occasions, Taiwan is actually the one that keeps the very 'fundamental' version of Chinese writings; And on the contrary, we (the PR. China) have actually made many reforms on those characters, and in some cases even borrowed pieces of your Japanese simplified Kanji back. That's why sometimes the Taiwanese mention our simplified Chinese characters are broken (残体字）

Taiwan use traditional Chinese characters but some simplified characters are used informally, there is also new characters for written vernacular Hokkien like 𪜶, but the majority of them can't be displayed on computers.

Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau use standard Chinese (i.e. traditional Chinese, the non-simplified ver.)

Chinese writing system is called Hanzi, not Chinese characters.

Chinese writing system is called Hanzi, not Chinese characters.

Chinese writing system is called Hanzi, not Chinese characters.

🙄

Just two pronunciations for the same characters 漢字

@@InkboxSoftware The creator of "Korean characters" (諺文real history name). It is ancient Chinese people (royal nobles and scholars in peninsula) who can speak fluent Chinese language and deep understanding of Chinese characters漢字 and classic Chinese文言文 . Use the method of decomposing Chinese characters. Mixed Koreans' language. Creation makes indigenous Koreans who speak Korean. The symbol "Korean characters"(諺文real history name) that Korean can be used. For more than 2000 years, the Korean Peninsula has been Chinese territorial and local regimes. Official languages and texts are also Chinese languages and Chinese characters漢字(classic Chinese文言文) . 1910. Japanese occupation of the Korea Peninsula (Chaoxian Peninsula朝鮮半島 , Real historical name - Chinese territory before 1910). The Japanese abolished Chinese characters. Korean language and characters (invention of the 15th century) of indigenous language began to popularize on the Korea Peninsula ( Chaoxian Peninsula朝鮮半島 ) . 1950. With the help of the USA. Become an independent country (North and South Korea), dominated by the Korean ethnic (white clothes Ethnic白衣民族). The official language is Korean language and Korean characters, which is only 70 years of history. ------------------------ Today Korean Ethnic ancestors are the southernmost indigenous people in the ancient korean peninsula (Chaoxian Peninsula朝鮮半島 , Real historical name - Chinese territory before 1910)It is known as "white clothes Ethnic白衣民族" in history. They speak Korean language. There is no characters. There is no coin (exchange items). In history, Korean women clothes (Hanbok) will show nipples after marriage (Westerners Record photos). Women use their heads to transport things. The ancient Koreans were 95% wearing white (without any patterns and dyes). This is also the identity of the Korean ethnic's ancestors as "white clothes Ethnic白衣民族" to be used by non -Korean ethnic (ancient Chinese do not wear white clothes, except funeral). This is very certain. Goguryeo 高句麗 is one of the Chinese regimes of the northern region established by the Chinese . Baekje 百濟, Silla 新羅. (formerly known as: China Tang Silla 唐新羅. ).... It is also a regional regime established by the Chinese.Their kings and nobles are proficient in Chinese language. They use Chinese characters. Wong's Goryeo王氏高麗, li' Joseon李氏朝鮮 ... ..... Their royal nobles are not the same ethnic group with Pingmin slave. The royal nobles are Chinese and descendants (born on the peninsula). Civilian slaves are indigenous Koreans. Their king and nobles can communicate with the Chinese. Long -term exchanges with the Chinese. Using Chinese language and text represents noble identity. (They use the name of the Chinese . Chinese governance method. They wearing Chinese clothes. Chinese emperor is a parent.). They used various methods to limit class mobility to avoid others (koreans) from becoming "nobles". Their people and slaves (white clothes Ethnic白衣民族) are prohibited and learned Chinese language and Chinese characters. These people use Korean language. There is no characters (until the 15th century). Almost all are illiterate. Anceint japan (before 13th century )= 東瀛 & 扶桑 & 倭 . (the name set by the Chinese emperor. It is also the name of the historical record) Today japan = 日本 Anceint korea= 朝鮮 (and 高包麗. 百濟. 新羅. 王氏高麗. 李氏朝鮮) . (the name set by the Chinese emperor. It is also the name of the historical record) Today korea = 韓國(南北) Anceint Nonth Vietnam= 交趾 . (the name set by the Chinese emperor. It is also the name of the historical record) Today Vietnam = 越南 Anceint Okinawa= 琉球. (the name set by the Chinese emperor. It is also the name of the historical record) Today Okinawa = 沖繩

@@InkboxSoftware He is providing incorrect information. Even educated ancient Koreans could not speak Chinese, as it is a different language from Korean. They could only communicate through texts, as Confucian scriptures were used as textbooks in ancient Korea. Ancient Koreans spoke the ancient Korean language and simply lacked their own writing system until the creation of Hangul in 1443 (the 25th year of King Sejong's reign). If ancient Korea was a Chinese territory and local regime, then South Korea is the 51st state of the USA.

Haha, how funny (baby boring)

@@Jacob.D. ok

The little square is also on the right in Taiwan and Hong Kong, So I see no problem here.

長い漢字の歴史の中で、大陸で骨の字がそのように書かれるようになったのはつい最近です。

8:56

It's called nüshu.

？ 他国の文字を尊重してください

so how do u think of 新字体？

@angrybull2340 Shinjitai is fine and not comparable with simplified Chinese which is an atrocity. Shinjitai still looks normal unlike simplified Chinese.

@@Mi_Fa_Volare lol bigot

@@freakmoister Do you even know what this word means?

First, most of China’s standardized Chinese characters are derived from ancient vulgar characters, which can be found in stone tablets and calligraphy of past dynasties. Some standard Chinese characters are even older than the so-called "traditional Chinese characters". For example, "气" originated from the Warring States Period, and "氣" first appeared in the Han Dynasty. Second, most of the so-called "the fundamental logic behind the development of Chinese characters" comes from 《说文解字》 written by Xu Shen of the Han Dynasty. According to archaeological evidence, 《说文解字》is just Xu Shen's subjective speculation based on the Chinese characters that existed at that time, and is far from the true development history of Chinese characters. For example, "射", 《说文解字》says "弓弩发於身（the bow and crossbow are fired from the body）", but according to archeology, the word "射",means "a bow plus an arrow", and there is no "body" at all. Third, from ancient times to the present, only the official characters stipulated by the Chinese government as 中华正朔 are correct, and other fonts are unorthodox. So when you write Chinese characters, you either write standard Chinese characters, or you just write wrong Chinese characters.

I've been interested in learning Taiwanese Hokkien for a while and wasn't sure about how many characters were innovated for the Min language family, and thought those would be mentioned in this video too!

@@danteuribe2179 yeah, it's sad they are not mentioned. Han languages other than Mandarin need more recognition

Im just seeing ? In a box, i guess my windows os cant support the characters

@@dalee2419 Yes, they are fairly new Unicode charactors, some fonts don't support them. You can install update fonts to see them

​@@skps2010 Is it possible to understand written vernacular Hokkein with only the knowledge of standard mandarin?

惊现小黑子

妳幹嗎，啊呦@@YurinKawasumi

I wouldn't put it that way, English has a lot of same-sounding words like bight, bite, eight, ate, and similar-spelled words like tough, through, sought, slough... Chinese characters have their own tone and pronunciation which both have to be correct or it's all wrong

@@danielzhang1916 there are also homophones in Mandarin

@@danielzhang1916 There are infinitely more homophones in Chinese than English. In fact, thats why a logographic written system is most efficient for Chinese, otherwise it’d be too confusing to only write with an alphabet.

@@mythrin that's not correct, just because they have the same pronunciation, does not mean they are the same thing, wang1 and wang4 are totally different characters written down, if you are not precise, then it is completely wrong, it is not the same idea as a homophone at all

​@@mythrinthen how Chinese speak among by imagine how you write no just by what yr talking about. Many languages have lot more same sound writing but different meaning than Chinese but all use alphabet now like English like buy by bi by info inform into indeed. Duh. Just write slightly different or no need to.