Yeah, me too. I love to look for insider stories about Thunders by searching behind his pics on Google, I read some great things about him that way.

It don't work that way...fool

@@user-vp3nt4cy5q Okay,maybe I'm wrong on something.So please let me know.But why talking like if the punk police would be still there?

@@johnvolume3384 because your out here painting pictures

Oliver Kalamata hahah i was going to say the say thing almost word for word. Every time i find a new video on h8m, i feel like i figure out another missing puzzle piece.

@@ronthunders6124Yeah, it's great to find missing pieces of the puzzle. I love these insider stories about Thunders behind his pics on Google, it gives you a lot of insight.

Elvira Brown He knew John very well for many years Decades

@Tyler Mod Maybe he recommends Live at Max's because he likes it better. I know I do

@Tyler Mod I thought Jerry Nolan was a great drummer but liked Ty Stix on Max's album. I'm not a musician; just a fan and tend to like all Heartbreakers; even the ones not played too good.

@@888strummer Peter wasn't even there when Live at Max's was recorded...I did the live mix.

@@brookedelarco730 Very cool and thanks for the great work you did. That record captured the punk scene better than any I ever listened to. Great memories

Yeah, that's a great one! And Hollywood Babylon at the Roxy in LA '87 or Stations Of The Cross, live at the Mudd Club, NY '82, etc. Glad that so many people loved and recorded his music, there's a wealth of his live music on the internet these days, love it.

I agree.

Grinder Man lmao 😂

Imagine what he would have been without the drugs?

@@annamarie8168 Still living and not nearly as interesting. People are gravitated toward the tragic figure.

The Jerk isn’t that ridiculously tragic? How boring of people 🙄

Peter Crowley says get LAMF The lost 77' mixes. I disagree. That still sounds muddy too. LAMF REVISITED 1984 remixed by Thunders and Tony James is the one to go for. The track order have been totally rearranged. Features left out overdubs. Includes the single's b. Sides and is as clear as Nevermind the Bollocks.. It omits All by Myself tho. But the b sides make up for it. You can get both LAMF REVISIED & DTK as a double cd. It's all you need by the Heartbreakers apart from the Down To Kill demo album and Yonkers also early demos with Richard Hell.

Thank Y0u! I recorded and mixed it!

As far as I know and I followed the Heartbreakers closely in the late '70's and '80s; Paul Cook never played with them. He went from the Pistols to the Professionals with Steve Jones and then drifted off for a while in the '80's and came back in the 1990's.

@PelicanBones That was Johnny doing a gig with Jones, Sis Vicious and Cook, but without Heartbreakers Walter Lure, Jerry Nolan and Billy Rath

@PelicanBones They all had a lot of fun and it makes sense that they were all friends and if JT and Lure wanted to do a show and Nolan wasn't around and Paul Cook was out partying, that they'd snag Cook and do a show. Walter Lure and Billy Rath were always talking about how they needed rent money, so they'd do end of the month shows. Paul Cook was a good drummer and him and Steve Jones put out some real good music as The Professionals.

@PelicanBones The live album of Heartbreakers at the Speakeasy was from a 1977 show when they had their line up with Thunders, Lure, Rath and Nolan. That one was released on LP in 1982. I don't know if there is any live at Speakeasy recordings after Jerry Nolan left. That would be cool if there is a live recording of Paul Cook playing with them

TY STIX was on the recording He filled in for Nolan a few times

GG

they were friendly, thats why they played together

what??

Charles Hall yes.. Speakeasy Mr Nolan on drums.

I bought both the same day in hmv London in 1982. DTK captured them at their peak as LAMF should have sounded like. LIVE AT MAX was nowhere near as powerful because Jerry Nolan wasn't on it. They had a stand in replacement drummer called Ty Stix who sounded lame and wasn't half as good as Nolan so the songs sound weak. The songs sound weak. They play well but live at Max is a classic example of what a good drummer can to to a band. I never listen to Live At Max's because of this because otherwise it could have been one hell of a good album. Whatever happened to Ty Stix anyway. Who did he originally play for?

twistedspanner I'll agree total. Everything you write about these records. Drummer Ty just doing his job...

I know original Clash drummer Terry Chimes replaced Jerry Nolan after the LAMF dispute and they sounded like the Clash. You can hear him on Vive le Revolution but I never heard how they sounded with Sex Pistols' Paul Cook on drums. Except on Thunders' solo album So Alone where they sounded like the Sex Pistols. Their London Boys sounds miles better than the Heartbreakers' version.

@@twistedspanner ty joined a religious cult, did work for room and board, went back to drugs and lived on the street, died in the 90s, likely due to his issues with drugs.

Yes.

You bet, both of them

Walter Lure said Thunders only started insulting the audience after they went to England and saw Johnny Rotten get away with it. So he started slagging off the crows later. By the way in the Jerry Nolan book Stranded in the Jungle author Curt Weizz stated that everyone on the Anarchy tour bus got alone fine except for Johnny Thunders and Johnny Rotten. I wonder why. Oh yeah. Rotten wrote New York a song slagging off the Dolls cos he was sick of listening to Malcolm McLaren going on about the New York scene and the Dolls. The other Pistols members loved the Dolls but Rotten didn't. Musically he didn't have much in common with the others.

It makes perfect sense that Johnny and Johnny wouldn't get along! London Boys is the the Heartbreakers answer to The Sex Pistols slagging the Dolls. Even if Johnny got the idea from Lydon, he was a master at it!

On Live at Max 's Thunders dedicates 'London' to Joe Bummer :-) What's even more funny is on his So Alone version he's got two Sex Pistols members playing on a song that's slagging them off. Or is he just slagging Rotten off. Cos Cook & Jones at that time also hated Rotten. I wonder did Cook and Jones know at the time what the song was about. the Pistols or just Rotten?

I often wondered why Cook and Jones played on a track that slagged their own band off. But if you listen to the lyrics it's about one person. who must be Rotten. At that time Cook and Jones hated Rotten too cos they bailed on him and Sid in San Fransisco and fucked off to Rio. So it would have made sencwe for them to do the song nut when Thnders sings just before the lead he shouts "And I'm talkin' about the whole lota ya" Did he mean Cook and Jones?

I agree. Thunders was great. Had great stage charisma and had great potential to be successful when he teamed up with Cook and Jones from the Pistols but he screwed that up by running off with money after gigs and I'm the star here. In Danny Garcia's movie Looking for Johnny Sylvain Sylvain says right at the beginning of the move " I think Johnny Thunders was the greatest songwriter that ever lived" Bollocks was he. That is a load of old tosh which should have ended up on the cutting room floor. That puts me off the movie everytime I watch it because he clearly wasn't. There are thousands out there who were better than him who I wont even bother to mention. I grew up loving Thunders. LAMF & SO ALONE were the soundtracks to my youth but he tried to copy his hero Keith Richards by becoming a smackhead before he got famous. I preferred him to Richards but was nowhere near a prolific songwriter. Que Sera Sera came out 7 years after his debut solo album. He should have done it in 1979 not 1985. He had many chances and he blew it. Shame that people didn't catch onto Johnny Thunders back in his prime instead of after his death.