Innovation - Playthrough With Friends

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JonGetsGames

11 ай бұрын

Today I am joined by my friend Anastasia to play a full game of Innovation! I will start with a brief overview of the game, and then we will teach the rules while we play.
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Timestamps:
Introduction - 0:00
Game overview - 1:15
Game start - 2:39
Draw action - 5:12
Dogma action - 6:17
Meld action - 7:04
Splaying explanation - 24:22
Achieve action - 47:43
How the game ends - 1:37:14
Endgame discussion - 1:56:38
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@bdelzerful
@bdelzerful 11 ай бұрын
I really love these. Anastasia has such a pleasant voice and is so articulate and Jon's excitement is palpable.
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
That's really lovely to hear, thanks!
@kbvt
@kbvt 11 ай бұрын
I've never played this game before and this is one of my favorite 2 player playthroughs I've ever watched. Your personalities are very fun together!
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
That is really wonderful to hear, thanks!
@jacobsisko6165
@jacobsisko6165 10 ай бұрын
So excited to see you two play this. I had not seen a playthrough before and it was fantastic. Great job!
@saumyakothari3873
@saumyakothari3873 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Very informative & fun. i wish you keep doing playthroughs for more games like these :)
@iandonnell
@iandonnell 11 ай бұрын
My number one game! Thanks for the great playthrough!
@bushibayushi
@bushibayushi 11 ай бұрын
one of the best card games ever made
@joshtaylor6137
@joshtaylor6137 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely love how much fun you two had - Innovation was one of my first games and I haven't played it in years. Definitely one I need to get back to the table :)
@srpad
@srpad 10 ай бұрын
I just wanted to thank you. I have had this game for years but had I a really had hard time wrapping my head around the rules so it sat on my shelf unused. Watching your playthrough made it all click so I actually played my copy for the first time and really enjoyed it. Thank you again!
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 7 ай бұрын
That is wonderful to hear!
@ellenharmer3881
@ellenharmer3881 10 ай бұрын
That was a fantastic play through to watch. Thank you!
@redeyedghost1406
@redeyedghost1406 11 ай бұрын
This was a very fun play through, thanks! I played it for the first time on BGA a couple of weeks ago and really enjoyed it. The timing was nice with the current campaign on Backerkit.
@alexwestmeyer9954
@alexwestmeyer9954 10 ай бұрын
I like this series, and an old game I never heard of before.
@timoseppa9124
@timoseppa9124 10 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this. When I looked into Innovation a few years ago, my initial reaction was interest in the theme and the game. Then, watching a video on it, it seemed fiddly with all of the splaying etc. Your playthrough really breathed some life into this game. It looks like it's worth a try.
@triplel3910
@triplel3910 10 ай бұрын
if you play it in person, it helps to print out the symbol tracking cards for each player, so you can easily see how many each player has total of each symbol. They have them on BGG. There is a wonderful implementation on BGA also, and it tracks the symbols for you, so it is easier to figure out the effects of the dogma effects. Most people complain the game is totally random because they lose track of the symbols and aren't able to predict the effects of the cards well enough.
@FloLedermann
@FloLedermann 11 ай бұрын
This is such a whacky game! Still one of my all-time favourites, with its potential to create surprisingly thematic stories with such a small set of rules and compact package. Thanks for the video, you seemed to have so much fun and the whackyness really came across.
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was glad to see some whackiness though I was abit bummed we didn't really "play" with the age 9 and 10 cards before it ended.
@kcatton9734
@kcatton9734 11 ай бұрын
great playthrough like usual!
@dshannon23
@dshannon23 11 ай бұрын
Great playthrough thank you!
@Skycroft1000
@Skycroft1000 11 ай бұрын
Still one of my favorite games after all these years, especially because of how portable it is. I do think it's best at 2 players though.
@aetherllama8398
@aetherllama8398 10 ай бұрын
Wow that Anatomy was savage. I think Jon should have discarded the high scoring cards first while they didn't match his top cards. Later they became a liability as he had to return his top 6s.
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was NOT expecting her to go so hard with that attack and I'm sure I could have played better to defend against it.
@ryanbartlett672
@ryanbartlett672 11 ай бұрын
Thanks. Innovation is my 2nd favorite game of all time. 1. Dominion 2. Innovation. Amazingly, with all the plays we are still on the base set! This and Fantasy Realms have the most depth in a small stack of cards. Love the look of the originals the best. Ultimate is on crowdfunding now!
@larrye
@larrye 11 ай бұрын
Such a great explanation and play through. I was screaming at my screen the whole time, ....."don't do that!!!" 😊
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
Haha, I could feel that even while I was recording. I had so many cards, I was sure I was botching things strategically.
@shatnershairpiece
@shatnershairpiece 10 ай бұрын
Very entertaining play through. Got me totally hyped to play it again. My wife isn’t crazy about it but since I have a birthday coming up, she has no choice!😜
@karsa3724
@karsa3724 10 ай бұрын
Made me go find a copy and purchase! Thanks
@kayvallance9560
@kayvallance9560 11 ай бұрын
at 1:44:56, Anastasia could have dogma'd the Publications card and rearranged the blue pile so the clock wasn't on top thereby saving her pile from the Skyscraper card. Then tried for the achievement the next turn, right?
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
Ah, yeah that would have been a great defensive move!
@tonysimpkins4311
@tonysimpkins4311 10 ай бұрын
great game!
@gjioeviojve
@gjioeviojve 3 ай бұрын
Bicycle doesn't count towards Monument as you're exchanging cards rather than scoring them! It's written on the card ;)
@brandonjohnson9876
@brandonjohnson9876 9 ай бұрын
This game is brutal. Not a friendly game at all, but it’s sure fun if you don’t take it seriously.
@triplel3910
@triplel3910 10 ай бұрын
Love this game, but I like using a symbol tracking page for each player, so it is easy to see total symbol numbers. The BGA implementation is fabulous too.
@redbirdbluesong
@redbirdbluesong 10 ай бұрын
This was so much fun!!!
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
We had a blast making it :)
@jankogo
@jankogo 10 ай бұрын
Really cool playthrough. Good work, Anastasia! The A.P. is real in this one for sure. Question: If you meld to a card that is splayed, does it start splayed or not? I think Anastasia did that somewhere.
@BmlCom
@BmlCom 10 ай бұрын
Yes, it does.
@Vadjong
@Vadjong 11 ай бұрын
I backed this kinda on a hunch, but now seeing the way you make history and then the world happens to you, it is hilarious. It does seem a tad hard to stay on top of every mechanic amid all the levels of brain burning, however.
@ryankelly369
@ryankelly369 11 ай бұрын
The mechanics in the rules aren't that tough; most of the additional "mechanics" on the card are just a matter of doing what the card says. For me, the difficulty at times comes in playing or seeing a card played that I haven't seen yet. :)
@shatnershairpiece
@shatnershairpiece 11 ай бұрын
Good to see this game again. I need to play it soon. Why does she draw 3 fours at 49:20? There seems to be a choice of drawing cards or getting the achievement? What is allowing her to draw the 3 cards? …wait…it was the fermenting!
@Gathanokos
@Gathanokos 11 ай бұрын
I needed this since 2022 XD
@zhivik
@zhivik 11 ай бұрын
A note to Jon - the 2v2 variant is actually very easy to run, and preferable when you play at 4. The additional rules are as follows - you and your teammate count your achievements as a team (doesn't matter how they are distributed between you), and each team is considered as a single player, so you need 6 achievements to win, as if it were a 2-player game; you don't apply demand effects against your teammate; and you don't get a free draw if you share a non-demand effect with your teammate only (they still get to do it before you). Also, if the game ends prematurely without a winner, you count your score as a team as well. If you add some expansions, you can play teams at higher numbers, like 3v3, it may be a lot of fun :)
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
Huh, that does sound pretty intriguing. Thanks!
@ifnyou
@ifnyou 10 ай бұрын
My favourite game, this was a lot of fun to watch. Are you planning to try the new version that's on Backerkit now?
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
I looked at it, and I don't think I will. I certainly would if I didn't still own this version, but this version plays just fine and I still have no desire to add in expansions.
@adamthemute
@adamthemute 9 ай бұрын
If the Dogma on a card allows a splay (like the green "Paper"), and you placed another green card on top of it, would it also splay, or cover your "Paper" card (but the under cards would remain splayed)? If that makes sense haha.
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 7 ай бұрын
You maintain the splay with new cards.
@rafakruczek5622
@rafakruczek5622 11 ай бұрын
1:50:00 transfering 6 cards with bicycle wouldn't count for Monument
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
The Monument is claimed when you tuck or score 6 cards in one turn, and I would have scored 6+ cards on that turn to take it. At least, that's my interpretation, has it been explained that exchanging cards into a score pile doesn't count as scoring them?
@rafakruczek5622
@rafakruczek5622 10 ай бұрын
@@JonGetsGames You could TUCK 6 cards by doing Lighting dogma twice ( but there was not enough different vaules on hand to score you six [7] from deck). I see that you have 1st ed Innovation. On Monumnet card (second paragraph) is is explicit exclusion of effects stealing points ( transfers form other players) and exchanges with own hand - cards are not named but Canal Building and Bicycle for best examples.
@terrytoriq
@terrytoriq 10 ай бұрын
That was such a freeky game ^^
@shinjial
@shinjial 11 ай бұрын
I played this game only once, years ago, against my brother. We had such a terrible time! It’s way too in your face for our taste, and swingy as well. I was clearly losing the game for quite some time until I found a combination that got me over the hump and won me the game in a very weird way.
@saykhia
@saykhia 9 ай бұрын
Is the dogma on Anatomy thematically causing existential dread on the opponent? 😂
@lucianmaximus4741
@lucianmaximus4741 10 ай бұрын
Kudos*Sudoku
@aselus
@aselus 11 ай бұрын
This game looks terrible to me lol, way too swingy for my taste
@JonGetsGames
@JonGetsGames 10 ай бұрын
it is certainly not for everyone :)