Insane Rooftop Wind Turbine Halves Solar Panel Costs

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Ziroth

Ziroth

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Aeromine Technologies have developed a new rooftop wind turbine that is apparently able to capture renewable energy cheaper than solar panels! In this video, we will look into their scientific papers to see how the system works, and whether it is really cheaper than rooftop solar.
Sources:
[Aeromine papers]
www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/16...
iopscience.iop.org/article/10...
reimaginingenergy.afwerx.com/...
www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/13...
www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/18...
[Wind speed analysis]
xn--drmstrre-64ad.dk/wp-conten...
[Wind catchers]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windcat...
[New atlas article]
newatlas.com/energy/aeromine-...
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:48 How it works
2:29 Pre-analysis
2:48 Fossil-free steel
4:34 Test results
7:16 Cost analysis
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@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
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@Myrddnn
@Myrddnn Жыл бұрын
I saw a while back a type of wind turbine that was small and omni-directional. I have not seen any follow-ups since. Could you see what you could find out about them and where the tech is now? Great video and this was a sponsor I could get behind....
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 Жыл бұрын
I'm an aerospace engineer with an interest in energy systems at the moment. I have been trying to tell people that some of these types of alternative wind technologies like Vertical Axis Wind Turbines (VAWTS) will have applications in future and in particular on the tops of houses, apartment blocks and office towers where Horizontal Turbines (HAWTS) just don't work. Either they are to noisy (propeller noise) or their mountings are structurally incompatible with mounting on a rooftop. Yes without doubt big 3 bladed HAWTS have the efficiency when they are out in the open country side, perched on top of large posts with suitable footings, BUT you can't put them in your backyard or on your roof. I'm in Australia and we have 1000s and 1000s of homes with solar in places with good reliable wind, especially in coastal regions because they get incredibly reliable sea breezes. Plus Australia's sea breezes are driven by the sun but they are operate on the opposite side of the solar cycle. They start to blow in the afternoon and then blow consistently through to the next morning and drop when the sun starts heating things back up. So in certain locations the solar inverters (right now) are only pumping out power when the sun is up. If those systems are fitted with a small *COMPATIBLE* wind units those systems go from pumping out power during daylight hours to *ALMOST* being able to generate power 24/7. So I think these guys are being very smart. They aren't trying to solve to overall energy problem but instead they are trying to fill a gap that's there.
@kevinwillis6707
@kevinwillis6707 Жыл бұрын
the carbon cost of the unit is surely much lower than conventional turbines as well, less maintenance and a much longer projected life with easier maintenance has to be factored in.
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
@@kevinwillis6707 Great point! I haven't seen any life cycle assessments on it, but I bet that is true.
@kevinwillis6707
@kevinwillis6707 Жыл бұрын
@@ZirothTech saw a report where they stated that because the moving parts were inside, they could be in the roofspace or even at ground level, and not subject to weather, the projected lifespan was essentially indefinate, compared to a 25 yr span for conventional wind turbines.
@wundyboy
@wundyboy Жыл бұрын
If you shape a whole building or skyscraper using the same principle... probably that could generate a lot of power?!
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Now there is an idea 💡 🤔
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 Жыл бұрын
Agree, there are several building sites in downtown Los Angeles where a wind tunnel effect has been inadvertently created. At times you can barely walk at street level.
@ruthlessrubberducky5729
@ruthlessrubberducky5729 Жыл бұрын
Could potentially also provide HVAC airflow, reducing power consumption.
@ruthlessrubberducky5729
@ruthlessrubberducky5729 Жыл бұрын
@@williamlloyd3769 Got any examples for reading and curiosity? Interested to see what they look like.
@frostfamily5321
@frostfamily5321 Жыл бұрын
It would in Chicago-if a majority of wind there goes at one direction! 😒🥶 A different angle would be less efficient.
@mileswheeler9114
@mileswheeler9114 Жыл бұрын
Been here since your first video. I'm so glad to see how much this channel has grown and the continual quality content. Cheers!
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It is truly appreciated :D
@entelechy00
@entelechy00 Жыл бұрын
I remember an episode of a show called "That's Incredible" where a Japanese building had its 11th floor emptied and it's glass removed to stop 60 MPH gusts of wind at its base. I have since then wondered about using wind shear to power turbines.
@jeanpaulchristian3282
@jeanpaulchristian3282 Жыл бұрын
Bladed systems are SHIT for building turbines... But imahine a building designed to capture sheer from 4 directions and a solar facade and rooftop
@mattyb7607
@mattyb7607 Жыл бұрын
I remember that show.
@mkkm945
@mkkm945 Жыл бұрын
I would be super interested in this type of company setting up on beaches. Most beaches have some sort of structures on them. Where I live, NYC, the beaches have large, raised toilet blocks at regular intervals. There tends to be constant wind at those sites as well. Would be interesting to see how this tech works in such an environment.
@Skorcch
@Skorcch Жыл бұрын
I mean it could be even better at offshore platforms but the issue there would the elevation
@markbajek2541
@markbajek2541 Жыл бұрын
I keep getting ads for the "Harmony" wind turbine which looks interesting as it can fold in on itself to protect itself from very high speed winds but still generate some power tucked in and expands its sails in low speed winds to grab more air. Doesn't seem to produce more than about 400watts for one unit but it's a nice concept.
@leroyharder4491
@leroyharder4491 Жыл бұрын
My solar is quite good for 3/4 of the year. There is lots of wind in winter and shoulder seasons and it would be nice to have a supplement especially as our electrical needs will go up with the eventual installation of a heat pump, replacing natural gas. Not much makes sense yet at small scale. Hoping for a breakthrough that will change that.
@waqasahmed939
@waqasahmed939 Жыл бұрын
This would also surely work at night? I've seen this elsewhere and it appears you can have this even if you've already got solar panels on your roof It means having less batteries too, which is kinda cool. Efficiency is nice though it's cost per W that matter to most
@leroyharder4491
@leroyharder4491 Жыл бұрын
@@waqasahmed939 Yes I am waiting for specs to come out for some of these ideas. I have a property large enough for a small turbine, but not sure how the neighbours would react. A more discreet design with guaranteed low bird impacts would be great. We live along a river with lots of hawks, eagles, geese, ducks. The list goes on.
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 Жыл бұрын
@@leroyharder4491 Aeromine doesnt use moving blades. No bird impact
@leroyharder4491
@leroyharder4491 Жыл бұрын
@@cuzz63 I know, lets hope it proves to be an option
@phsu2414
@phsu2414 Жыл бұрын
I am glad he pointed out the most important factor in wind power -- the wind speed at the site of installation. Unless you live in a very windy area, forget about wind power by any means.
@AttackStart
@AttackStart Жыл бұрын
Naw don't forget about it... you just have to stick a super tall pole 80 feet in the air and take site measures for two or three years to know what you are dealing with. Wind can be great but needs to be looked at as site specific and getting your wind measurements perhaps viewed more like getting your land surveyed (albeit a much longer timeframe). Just one man's opinion.
@johnharrison2511
@johnharrison2511 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see smaller versions of the same thing, so that by being less burden on the roof, and being able to spread their weight and directional orientation, flexibility would be gained. Production costs might increase, but so would volume of sales and use. They might also be utilised for ventilation.
@karollk5579
@karollk5579 Жыл бұрын
this is the smallest look at the fan itself from the bottom it is not possible to give such energy
@karollk5579
@karollk5579 Жыл бұрын
@Truth Balm He's useless, he's not even good for that.
@coniow
@coniow Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a clear description and analysis.
@6691Jovian
@6691Jovian Жыл бұрын
This is off of the top of my head at the end of watching this, so I have not considered engineering loads, etc. This may be a useful application mounting this horizontally on High Rise buildings in cities to take advantage of the updraft created by solar heating of the glass and building. In combination with newer solar window films, some city buildings may be able to become self powered or even have a surplus depending on conditions and all of the engineering I have neglected to this point.
@Umski
@Umski Жыл бұрын
I've seen this design doing the rounds for while now and whilst I used to get excited by new wind turbines whether vertical or horizontal or 'bladeless' like this, it becomes clear that wind is a tricky thing to deal with - solar on the other hand is more accessible in that you know what you're getting provided there's no shading or obstructions - the amount of radiation may change from day to day and location but it's tried, tested and "solid state" so no maintenance - I often think new products are introduced to market on the basis that the company will have ongoing income through maintenance contracts - sounds cynical but every "small" turbine I've seen on the market that then appears in real life ends up shelved after some years nowhere to be seen again apart from the odd early adopters...
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 Жыл бұрын
Small wind turbines are genuinely at a disadvantage compared to the large ones.
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 Жыл бұрын
@@garethbaus5471 If you simply look at the energy of wind carried over a typical rooftop, you'll never get a lot of power from these things even in strong winds, and if they were 100% efficient. This thing would have to be very very cheap to make sense economically.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 Жыл бұрын
@@kaasmeester5903 Yes.
@marekdg
@marekdg Жыл бұрын
What I find so strange is that they compare solar power to wind power. Those are two different recourses. And often when one of them has a lot of energy to harvest the other one is hasn’t that much energy in it. So you would need both to have more reliable coverage… And by the way when we compare wind to wind. The biggest turbines generate with one spin (6seconds) around 20kWh, here in the Netherlands the Eva rage Dutch household uses 7,5kWh for a whole day. So one spin (6sec) of the turbine can power two households for 24hours😮
@Umski
@Umski Жыл бұрын
@@marekdg I suspect the marketing teams were struggling to find any tangible benefits over traditional ‘big’ turbines so they took their aim at solar as a means of a selling point 🙄 I have had PV up for 10 years now and not had to do any maintenance, okay it’s annoying when there is little or no sun (like now) but instead I have invested into a community wind turbine array of 8MWp which pays me back for the portion I have invested in (1kW) - it’s not my ‘own’ juice being generated locally but it makes more sense to have a bigger, efficient turbine sat in a nice consistently windy location rather than shoving something smaller and likely ineffective into a not so windy location 🤷‍♂️
@rklauco
@rklauco Жыл бұрын
It would still be great to have supplemental source of, let's say, 2kW of wind to roof-top solar. Just the fact that it can produce some energy in the night, when you normally only use grid or battery, would be great. But having rotating turbine on the roof is a problem... So even with 4.2m/s winds inside the city, the aesthetics of the thing would still overrule the efficiency, I guess.
@fredturk6447
@fredturk6447 Жыл бұрын
I would say the idea needs refining. You could introduce a motor to rotate the blade system into the prevalent wind direction to deal with places where the wind could come from different sectors (maybe two models, one fixed, one movable). The thing looks terribly ugly particularly the bottom part with the turbine. Perhaps for domestic pitched roofs the thing could be designed so the turbine part fitted into the roof space? You might also get some advantage from the roof pitch if the wind was coming across the ridge line. The other issue with it in the domestic situation might be noise. Will the turbine make a lot of noise and transfer that noise into the building structure? The designers will also need to be careful small birds cannot get into the system through the vent holes in the blade and also maybe wasps trying to build a nest. Apart from ugly it sounds like a good idea.
@kr1886
@kr1886 Жыл бұрын
I don't think we can allow the aesthetic aspects to get in the way of clean energy. It's a luxury we can no longer afford. We have to work with what we have now and keep our fingers crossed for the future.
@fredturk6447
@fredturk6447 Жыл бұрын
@@kr1886 Well, agree, but if you can make it look better by hiding the base part with the turbine you get a win, win. You might even consider if a roof can be designed to use the same principle to generate power. Could include solar as well.
@NeoMorphUK
@NeoMorphUK Жыл бұрын
Solar is a non-moving system… wind turbines though need to move to generate current so it makes sense to place the solar on the homes and mount the turbines on towers AWAY from other buildings.
@analog_guy
@analog_guy Жыл бұрын
Consider what the company is not telling us. They are not telling us the actual long-term average power we can expect to get from a unit in a particular installation. Given its size, it is not going to produce much power. People are not going to go through all the installation and maintenance ado for minimal return. Indeed, it will produce some energy at night, but not a reliable supply. Energy storage is still required. Here's a silly make-believe extreme example: A company offers, at no cost to me, to install turbine-generators in the bottoms of my rain gutter downspouts to produce power when it rains. Wow - free energy! If my roof is 3000 square feet, and if my downspouts have 10 feet drop, and if I get 40 inches of rain per year, and if the turbine-generator system has 60% efficiency, I will receive about 1.4 kilowatt-hours of electricity in a year. (I'll spare readers the calculations.) At the rate I currently pay to my electric company, that is worth about 17 cents per year to me. Would I let the company do it? No.
@fireballloadout
@fireballloadout Жыл бұрын
There is one particular problem about putting it on top of buildings, if you put this on top of a house often times it's going to act like a sail and capture some of the wind giving it a little push. the problem could come about if the roof of the house is not reinforced to take this extra pressure, it could cause it to slowly over time degrade the structure of the roof or cause a failure bringing the roof down either on the building or pushed to the side
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
This is a great point, thanks for commenting it! I wonder what would be the best way to solve this - either highly reinforced roofs (sounds expensive) or some kind of pitching/retracting of the aerofoils to reduce drag when the wind is too strong 🤔
@fireballloadout
@fireballloadout Жыл бұрын
@@ZirothTech There are ways of doing it to where you can reinforce the overall structure to make it fit the problem is, if the house is a older house like what you might see in europe, you might not have all that much room or all that much capability to reinforce the roof for what would be needed
@fireballloadout
@fireballloadout Жыл бұрын
Honestly it might do better that instead of going vertical like what they originally going with, they could do a horizontal type of way which would make it shorter but in theory use left of the strain on the building, also there is a little of fact that if wind hits a structure like let's say for example a rock wall, the wind could actually be stronger than it would be if it was just in open-air because the structure would be pushing more wind in a particular direction
@agps4418
@agps4418 Жыл бұрын
@@ZirothTech it's just the thing about new technology, we adapt our lives and environment to it. it's a natural process. what we must be careful of is the power of money from big oil manipulating things.
@falcon127
@falcon127 Жыл бұрын
CORRECT, IF ROOF NOT DESIGNED FOR THESE WIND GENERATORS, PLACE THEM ON THEIR OWN STANDS OR POLES.
@jtr82369
@jtr82369 Жыл бұрын
smaller versions of these would be amazing to run in addition to my solar system, hope to see it in the future
@Cassidy127
@Cassidy127 Жыл бұрын
You'd be doing well to sub to the Robert Murray-Smith channel. The man's a goldmine of very useful projects and information.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 Жыл бұрын
I'd think the maximum survivable wind would be more of an issue than the loss of efficency when the wind is blowing the "wrong" way. A hurricane often blows from a different direction to the prevailing wind and there would be a LOT of oscilating sideways force on those aerofoils once the AoA is such that the wing is stalled. If I was making them I'd think about easily replaceable blowout panels to deal with that.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 Жыл бұрын
@@arrell1xyz The TURBINE does but the guide vanes are fixed.
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 Жыл бұрын
Served 18 months in Iceland at Naval Air Station Keflavik. An interesting field test of the Aeromine would be on the island as solar panels aren’t viable at high latitudes. If the unit survives the gales and weather in Iceland, it will survive anywhere. Faroe Islands or Jan Mayen island maybe a better test site as sites don’t have access to other renewal energy like hydroelectric or geothermal power. Another benefit of this system is that it doesn’t have as much of a visual impact on the landscape as giant wind turbines. PS - Wind blows morning, noon and night at Keflavik, Iceland PS2- good video but you should cut the excursion into green steel
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! This sounds like an ideal use case for this, I imagine it would fair well in extreme weather due to the lack of moving parts.
@chicobicalho5621
@chicobicalho5621 Жыл бұрын
2:50 the long winded shpeal on steel was an unecessary detour from the issue that really matters, which is the design of the windmill per se. If you keep these postings as concise as possible, they drive the point through more efficiently.
@Darknamja
@Darknamja Жыл бұрын
I believe that was the sponsor of the video so he was obligated to add that *spiel as you say. 🤔🤔
@erikslagter3231
@erikslagter3231 Жыл бұрын
Small wind turbines just don't make sense... Sad but true.
@thomassimmer5186
@thomassimmer5186 Жыл бұрын
I saw a scientific publication indicating that there are still eddy currents of wind within the system that need to be studied to improve the Aeromine design. I would be interested in trying it when that happens because my house, on the shores of Lake Huron, stands three stories tall on a 40 foot bluff. I have built two platforms for windtowers, but just need to select them and try them out when the technology is mature.
@zblus
@zblus Жыл бұрын
Whoa very informative, always wondered about these 👍
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful!
@thamesmud
@thamesmud Жыл бұрын
It would need to be steerable over on the east coast as our wind directions tend to be either SW or NE 180deg apart.
@rRobertSmith
@rRobertSmith Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdqBpt2hxLKvZJc.html would be much better
@margarita8442
@margarita8442 Жыл бұрын
sounds like a theranos start up
@EXPLORADVEN
@EXPLORADVEN Жыл бұрын
Interesting... Good to try out in my place.
@markbarber7839
@markbarber7839 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Interesting. No bird shedding. No throwing kilo ice blocks. I like it You'd think they could have rotate for best wind direction.
@Bianchi77
@Bianchi77 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks :)
@maxmintz511
@maxmintz511 Жыл бұрын
Well done!
@undercoveraca
@undercoveraca Жыл бұрын
Really interesting and a great balanced assessment. It seems clear massive turbines work in open windswept places, but we should remain open to research into other micro level applications that might integrate with infrastructure and land in use. As a real estate agent might say, it's about location, location, location. Perhaps on the roof edge of the right apartment or industrial building, or who knows even on a cargo ship, these could offer better energy density, low cost power at point of use when the sun doesn't shine. I can see these working alongside highways with the right prevailing winds, potentially integrated with lighting posts. In Australia where I am they might even produce power for EV charging stations and communities in remote off-grid locations. We even have an EV charging station on a remote highway that runs off used fryer oil from the roadhouse!
@LabGecko
@LabGecko Жыл бұрын
Great idea, and this made me ponder if this effect could be used on sail masts. It would introduce drag, but it might be possible to engineer it so there is a good enough balance between energy gain and drag to be worth it.
@mehryaretemadfard1395
@mehryaretemadfard1395 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much . Very much. From Shiraz. Iran.
@arielpaz5953
@arielpaz5953 Жыл бұрын
Great video! How does this turbine compare to leading competitors in the micro-turbine market, in terms of efficiency and market acceptance?
@redshift3
@redshift3 Жыл бұрын
Insane is the correct assessment.
@rotaryperfection
@rotaryperfection Жыл бұрын
Windy West Texas is perfect for something like this.
@loisplayer2658
@loisplayer2658 Жыл бұрын
Super informative and a cool technology!
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lois!
@ruairi4901
@ruairi4901 Жыл бұрын
*How does this video not have more views???* *How does this channel not have more subscribers???*
@patrickdegenaar9495
@patrickdegenaar9495 Жыл бұрын
Good analysis. In most cases it would be better to build big wind farms with big efficient wind turbines than small scattered inefficient turbines on individual roofs.
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, completely agree!
@jakesoreide
@jakesoreide Жыл бұрын
Depending on cost a small, inefficient turbine for a homeowner could give them ownership and potential savings vs sticking with the power company and paying whatever they charge for their "clean energy."
@LabGecko
@LabGecko Жыл бұрын
This so often crops up on energy generation discussions - why not do both? Most green energy is cooperative, not competitive.
@patrickdegenaar9495
@patrickdegenaar9495 Жыл бұрын
@@LabGecko There is finite pot of money. So we should be making strategies which give us the quickest route to net zero with our current pool of resources. Sure you could tax more to make that pot slightly bigger, and borrow to make it bigger still. But the pot is still finite! So we need to be strategic.
@LabGecko
@LabGecko Жыл бұрын
@@patrickdegenaar9495 With the premise that a finite budget exists, sure, I agree. But I don't agree with the premise. We're dealing with completely unrelated budgets - city, state, nation, home, all can afford to build on different parts of the grid projects.
@jcc777
@jcc777 Жыл бұрын
Tijeras Canyon east of Albuquerque would be the Ideal place to use these guys. There were fairly reliable daily winds that would be channeled east through the canyons. Especially during the winter and spring seasons.
@thetinker3924
@thetinker3924 Жыл бұрын
I have a wind turbine from MO wind and solar just a 12 volt 1500 watt and it helped keep the battery power up at night.
@migmagingenieria
@migmagingenieria 8 ай бұрын
Mega interesting vid, thanks a lot for sharing!!!
@dhangurung7794
@dhangurung7794 Жыл бұрын
Good job
@darkiee69
@darkiee69 Жыл бұрын
The one shown on the roof seems to work a little different, with the rounded divider between the airfoils and the turbine visible beneath. The divider may cause an extra low pressure behind it, sucking up air from the bottom, making the turbine spin.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
This thing is basically a Dyson fan run in reverse.
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Good spot!
@Majidkashmiri885
@Majidkashmiri885 Жыл бұрын
Good job keep it up
@jeebangurung7014
@jeebangurung7014 Жыл бұрын
Nice innovation wind turbines.
@FerhatIsmail-bb9ye
@FerhatIsmail-bb9ye Жыл бұрын
thanks so much for useful video, very nice system we can use also in country side in Turkey.
@pabf2745
@pabf2745 Жыл бұрын
Isolated houses in steppes or coast, or isolated high buildings (when there is a good ammount of wind from ONLY 1 predominant direction, that is, the tropic falling wind of the equatorial climatic cell did not move north and south of the location with the seassons)
@tripives1858
@tripives1858 Жыл бұрын
Soooo, why is it not automatically redirected based upon wind direction? I also believe that a series of circular cowlings would have higher efficiency per square inch than a two sided airfoil.
@sumedhaweb1809
@sumedhaweb1809 Жыл бұрын
Hi Thank you for the elaborated video, do you have any idea of how the Aeromine is going to be connected to the home where utility is already available. I've searched on the net but I could not find any. Thanks!
@jorissimaitis7619
@jorissimaitis7619 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joris!
@fredturk6447
@fredturk6447 Жыл бұрын
Should also look at the Halcium Power Pod which is a similar idea but has no issue with different wind directions. Not yet on the market however.
@nuwanbalasooriya1445
@nuwanbalasooriya1445 Жыл бұрын
Very informative...
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 Жыл бұрын
A worthy and clever Idea using Bernoulli effect . Needs some development . A weathervane controlling a Rotary Baseplate would fix the Directionality issue .
@nothingburger1
@nothingburger1 Жыл бұрын
Depends where you are, in australia solar is going very, very well for a lot cheaper than any alternative. The only thing we need here to get to 100% renewables is lots of LiFePo4 battery storage.
@flitsies
@flitsies Жыл бұрын
I think they are on to a winner here, with a few updates you can see this being very useful. What they need to do is miniaturise it and sell it as garden kits so it can be played with by people who like to experiment. But I have seen something similar years ago on a TV program but they did not use the wind for generating power. The fact that it is ancient tech means it will work it just needs adapting in the right way. If they made a miniature kit it would make it possible to explore ideas, until they do this it will be out of the reach of most people unless they make their own version.
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 Жыл бұрын
To me, I think what is important is having a cheap way of installing renewables, whether that be solar or wind and low price for buying of that, for personal use. Consumers are much more likely to push this renewable revolution over governments if the cost of installing and the price point of buying is cheap enough to do, whereas governments keep dragging their feet with the fossil industry lobbying them to slow down the adoption, consumers don't have that issue because they will do what's in their interest to lower cost. This is why for me, having a low-cost installation could do wonders for the industry, at the moment, it's too expensive and complicated which puts a lot of us off, even thought the cost of solar isn't that expensive now and is getting cheaper, the installation cost and complexity is a mess for most, sort those problems out and the adoption rate would likely skyrocket and consumers are much harder for the fossil industry to lobby against. The icing on the cake will come about with improvements to battery tech so we can store weeks or even months of energy per household. As for this wind tech, even if it doesn't generate as much energy as they say, does it really matter if it can be done cheap enough for consumers to use? Mixing things up with solar and wind could be quite useful for many, especially as solar doesn't generate energy at night where wind can. Still, we need more information on this tech in real world use cases but it does look like the tech shows promise and could be made better to take advantage of wind from all directions.
@h.e.hazelhorst9838
@h.e.hazelhorst9838 Жыл бұрын
These devices look very promising, but mainly if consitions are met: on big office buildings, and warehouses. There are plenty of these around! Also, they can be comnied with solar panels. I also wonder if a rotation mechanism would make them much more expensive? And are they more efficient when scaled up like traditional wind turbines?
@shishkabobby
@shishkabobby Жыл бұрын
I have built a sectrometer that included a central pillar that provided a robust central angle of rotation. The first neutron spectrometers were built using WW2 technology for rotating turrents for battleships (the shielding is that heavy). Adding a single degree of rotation would be a challenge on a rooftop. You need a central pillar, with a height that would be sufficient to keep the unit from tipping over. I'm sure it can be done, but the cost of doing it reliabely could add considerabely to the cost of a unit.
@tomarmstrong1281
@tomarmstrong1281 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good idea. How have the accommodated for vibration and noise?
@pbrobotspbrobots1710
@pbrobotspbrobots1710 Жыл бұрын
the bit about the straw sucking up the fluid. you don't suck anything up. you create a vacuum in you mouth and atmospheric pressure on the surface of your drink forces the fluid up the straw.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
This is 100% venturi effect and more akin to a carburetor than someone drinking through a straw. 👍
@ewout2211
@ewout2211 Жыл бұрын
Great content. What about maintenance costs due to sand/dust sucked into turbines? Weigh that in, and cost efficiency compared to PV will even drop further
@holger_p
@holger_p Жыл бұрын
That's only a concern in certain parts of the world, and actually the same costs, also for solar. In the Sahara, Panels have to be cleaned from sand regular. In Europe, in relativly humid conditions, that's not a topic at all. Rain is cleaning panels, Storm is blowing free turbines.
@adrienw4704
@adrienw4704 Жыл бұрын
your videos are very good! even the sponsor is interesting xD
@lizrivera22
@lizrivera22 10 ай бұрын
Does anybody know what is the source of the cost comparison graph presented at minute 7:20?
@ignaciorodriguezmelgarejo9526
@ignaciorodriguezmelgarejo9526 Жыл бұрын
it makes sense on a boat, might be cool to have a few of these on a sailboat
@alexi9108
@alexi9108 4 ай бұрын
To fix the wind direction issue it could be equipped with a rotation mechanism and some sort of wind sensor. The rotation motor needn't be fast or powerful, so no significant amount of energy will be diverted.
@TheSdog9
@TheSdog9 Жыл бұрын
I favour residential wind generation. My case is on the basis for available materials and reduced reliance on complex production chains. There's a lot of very good resources arguing that both material and also production capacity used to create PV panels is very limited for the forecast demand. Even simple things like glass fabrication is limited. I think local materials can be maximised especially if using recycled plastics ensuring minimal waste post life.
@facter3814
@facter3814 Жыл бұрын
Do you think this can decrease electric car prices and battery need if we brought back radiator openings on the grill and we install one there that could charge the car as it drives?
@ajayvee6677
@ajayvee6677 11 күн бұрын
In connection with steel manufacture, you should also look at the Australian developed Hazer process which converts methane into hydrogen and graphite, with no CO2 emissions
@Lambert7785
@Lambert7785 Жыл бұрын
great successful research coming to the actual truth...-thanks
@trinity4286
@trinity4286 Жыл бұрын
They should implement this concept to a vehicles. While the car is moving, turbines generates energy from the movement.
@baggerbegger
@baggerbegger Жыл бұрын
This Does not work like intended. The generated energy would be produced by the car. The engine would have to work harder for the same speed. Ideally you would need 1kWh of fuel in addition to generate 1kWh of electricity, but there are a lot of losses, so it would be worse. Sry for bad english, not a native speaker
@TimBarnesPolygonPerformance
@TimBarnesPolygonPerformance Жыл бұрын
Might be incredibly powerful energy production in Australia, where you could literally have that (strong consistent winds in some regions) and solar on houses and let houses feed the grid...
@Skorcch
@Skorcch Жыл бұрын
Why not just invest in large wind Turbine farms, they produce enough energy in 6 secs to power entire households
@TimBarnesPolygonPerformance
@TimBarnesPolygonPerformance Жыл бұрын
@@Skorcch Because... and get this... You need to transport the energy. Wind Turbine Farms have a huge environmental, ecological impact as well as their CO2 cost in production. Their primary use is close to agricultural facilities on farms (or best use) where emissions can potentially be off-set with smart farming. Decentralised power is always superior for residential power requirementals and reduces grid surges. Most solutions to energy and multi-layered and have multiple different types of energy.
@Skorcch
@Skorcch Жыл бұрын
@@TimBarnesPolygonPerformance Oh I actually didn't know about the environmental impact, I mean it is never paid much attention here in India cause like its less than burning fossil fuels so govt have happily invest in wind farms
@johnhenderson1219
@johnhenderson1219 Жыл бұрын
I contacted aeromine a few weeks ago with a query on pricing , availability etc, but have received no feedback. i have a 12 kW solar system but would love a small wind system to supplement on dull days
@nauticalnovice9244
@nauticalnovice9244 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that this was a thing, It's genius.
@kenbellchambers4577
@kenbellchambers4577 Жыл бұрын
Wind is a good backup, but the wind doesn't blow for days on end. Solar works quite well even in light overcast conditions when it is set up correctly.
@howardsykes2754
@howardsykes2754 Жыл бұрын
As I've stated elsewhere they need to be scaled down so as not to be an eyesore in an urban landscape and possibly attract the ire of the local council who could ban them. Perhaps they could also rotate on a near friction free base ie redirect some of the airflow so as to create a hovercraft effect so it can catch the wind & rotate at all angles optimising the wind flow at all times. If the wind dies down it could still have a low friction ball bearing base on which to rotate.
@ericcameron4357
@ericcameron4357 Жыл бұрын
This could be applicable to street lights and large highway sign supports. Manufacture the supports using this principle along roadways and highways the captured energy can be directed back into the grid. Instead of trying to utilize a small number of large generators, utilize a large number of small generators.
@rontuengel5849
@rontuengel5849 4 ай бұрын
Hello just add a fan!!! Walmart sells leaf blowers for $40! Solar power just add lights! High beam car headlights run off of 12 volts! Jeep flood lights run off of 12 volts! For hydro power just pump the water back into the lake!!! Then you can turn the power up all the way for the maximum power possible just pump the water back into the lake!
@kkgauthier
@kkgauthier Жыл бұрын
The most important thing is that we keep focusing on refining technologies that make people energy independent. We also need to start thinking in terms of multiple source generation. There are a good many ways of generating energy, as nearly everything we do, and nature does releases electricity that goes unharvested due to its small amount, but when many small sources are used, the need for storage is negated by a slow steady flow from all around at all times.
@robertvance4362
@robertvance4362 Жыл бұрын
The stable power grid in developed countries is what separates us from third world countries. It literally is the foundation for modern civilization. Centralized generation is distribution is efficient and allows it to be carefully managed and stable. Using distributed unregulated generation is neither efficient or stable. Maybe it would work if we spent Trillions on battery storage , but why?
@kkgauthier
@kkgauthier Жыл бұрын
@@robertvance4362 There's just so much wrong here. First, power grids are not remotely efficient. I don't know what you mean by "distributed unregulated generation", but that's obviously not anything I advocated for. When electricity was first being developed, there were two directions it could take. It could be developed with central control in mind, or consumer independence in mind. Westinghouse and his cronies made sure that it was developed for them and not the general public. Otherwise, your home would be furnished with a system of electrical generation based upon wind, sun, water, and who knows what else, as these kinds of technologies would go far beyond what we are currently stuck with, because they would have been the major focus of the industry over the last century. As it stands, we are stuck with whatever disastrous, nightmarish source of energy makes the fewest people the most money the quickest.
@jamesthompson7282
@jamesthompson7282 Жыл бұрын
Might be a terrific resource on top of tall buildings. Cities do 'though often produce a heat dome that shelters them.
@ralphpremici7632
@ralphpremici7632 Жыл бұрын
I like the ridge blade at the moment. Can u do review on it. ? ✌
@mikebikekite1
@mikebikekite1 Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of people living on narrowboats in the UK and getting enough electricity through solar has always been a problem. If these units could be added to the roof of the boat but be capable of easily folding down then it might be a application for them to follow, The traditional reason for not using conventional wind turbines is the noise and vibration that they generate. If these were reasonably quiet, could fold down reasonably low when moving and could generate 1KW then there might be a market for them. Obviously price is also a factor :)
@johnwagner2049
@johnwagner2049 Жыл бұрын
Look at the tower on a Ranger Tug 43, folding down is the easy part.
@andrewnowson8766
@andrewnowson8766 Жыл бұрын
Really? What, a few thousand, if that .. such a tiny market, pointless.
@mikebikekite1
@mikebikekite1 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewnowson8766 I guess it depends on how many units they've currently sold. There are currently 34,000 licensed boats on the canals and about 10,000 are registered as permanent homes. Most of these struggle to generate enough electricity for their needs. If this company wants to ignore an eager market then I guess that's up to them. But thank you for your opinion on the matter.
@holger_p
@holger_p Жыл бұрын
@@andrewnowson8766 Camping industry is huge worldwide. You just have to start somewhere. Car Top or Boat Top solution do have some potential. By experience we can say, sometimes you have to provide some technology, and people use it for something we never imagined before.
@DrinkingStar
@DrinkingStar Жыл бұрын
Excellent unbiased reporting of this company and it technology. I came across SSAB on another video. Both companies are worth investing some spare change in if one likes to gamble in the "Wall Street Casino". The odds are better here than in the Las Vegas casinos.
@amrelgammal2353
@amrelgammal2353 Жыл бұрын
I think it is a privilege that you can control the air in through the pipe to the turbine where By allocating the turbine in a reduced size pipe we can increase the pressure and turbine can increase the power output, not sure if I’m correct !
@Steven---
@Steven--- Жыл бұрын
I think an Iris style damper, in the tubes, could control turbine speed in high wind situations.
@lucianofortunati1085
@lucianofortunati1085 Жыл бұрын
This is fenomenal...but what have you something good for no-high factory sheds?
@CraigSkipsey
@CraigSkipsey Жыл бұрын
Great video! So many people get excited about rooftop wind power, but completely overlook terrain effects (turbulence intensity profile). This design is interesting, but with a fast RPM turbine, vibration effects over time would be a concern too. Still, this design is probably the best attempt I've seen so far!
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks Craig, completely agree!
@ashalatha5048
@ashalatha5048 Жыл бұрын
Great video sir The place where i live, usually wind blows for Max about 3 months n it is a costal area. Remaining period not much wind but in the afternoon after 2pm a small breeze of air there that's all So is it a viable option to keep such type of windmill here n a viable cost option sir. If so what will b the breakthrough period on getting back the capital.amount on windmill set up sir. Please reply Thanks n regards
@shaftsarl7998
@shaftsarl7998 Жыл бұрын
Hello from where we can purchase as distributor for mea region
@allisterlobo6754
@allisterlobo6754 Жыл бұрын
It's a reverse Dyson, genius idea.
@Cross-xm2fr
@Cross-xm2fr Жыл бұрын
The main thing is it quiet if used in residential
@moniquem783
@moniquem783 Жыл бұрын
Can’t say I love the idea of a massive thing like that on the roof of my house. Maybe 1/3 of the size and combined with solar. It would have to be silent though. Otherwise I’d be better off buying a few extra solar panels and batteries.
@etaxalo
@etaxalo Жыл бұрын
2:48 "reduces the steel needed for construction" So what are they using? im guessing 110% recyclable fibre glass then
@davidthomson4045
@davidthomson4045 Жыл бұрын
Solar's Achilles Heel is clouds, which often are accompanied by windiness. Providing power when solar cannot, like at night, makes it complementary. But only if a turbine can deal with non-laminar flow...
@AeYronu
@AeYronu Жыл бұрын
Можно и нужно дополнить эту конструкцию двумя деталями. Поворотной платформой, и хвостом по оси потока (как у флюгера). Тогда эффективность будет максимальной. Идея на счёт зданий интересна, но имеет много сложностей. Начиная то расчета положения, и заканчивая материалами. А так же прочность самого здания, особенно в экстремальных условиях (ураган). Плюс то что возле этого здания будет невозможно находиться (постоянный поток воздуха (проще говоря ветер, возможно сильный) и наверняка звук).
@fotmheki
@fotmheki Жыл бұрын
It should be add that at each 90° turns the air pressure is halved, that's why is way less efficient than horizontal wind turbine, so I don't see this system passing 30% of efficiency. If regular horizontal turbine can be installed in that area that's always the better solution at the moment, as it looks like both will require rughly the same installing area. Comparing them to solar panel it should be done over 25 years of operation, as this is the average granted life of them, also the maintenance cost of solar panel are pretty low, basically you have just to clean them. Considering also the approximation of less than 1% reduction of production per year. In turbine you have ball bearings that need to be serviced from time to time, stopping energy production for that time. Blades could be affected by stress fatigue so needs to be checked on regular basis and in case of stronger winds. Front cost could be less than solar but the overhall cost could be on pair or higher due to the added complexity
@darkiee69
@darkiee69 Жыл бұрын
Pigs will have grown wings and learned to fly before SSAB produce any fossil free steel. The two plants (pellet plant and steel plant) will together use 80TWh every year. That's more then the entire country of Finland, or enough power to electrify every car and truck in Sweden, seven times over, or 70-80 nuclear reactors.
@pauleohl
@pauleohl Жыл бұрын
The problem with rotating machinery at home is noise and vibration. Think of our washer or drier or whole house fan or air handler.
@nickbea3443
@nickbea3443 Жыл бұрын
The London Strata tower is a perfect example. The wind turbines built into the structure haven't been used much since it opened over 10 year ago. the noise and vibration caused complaints from tower residents.
@farajjabbarkhalaf9123
@farajjabbarkhalaf9123 Жыл бұрын
It isn’t abvious the way how it works? Can you explain the lines of air and what are the matters that respond to air stream? Is it by friction of air? Or by the spinner fan under the device as shown in the video?
@user-fx3wl5lz2g
@user-fx3wl5lz2g Жыл бұрын
Hi, how can i view the live stream? should i just log on your youtube panel?
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Жыл бұрын
Yes you should be able to find it on my channel under the live tab - it will start in about 5 minutes! :D
@femmylyn2004
@femmylyn2004 Жыл бұрын
I wish to know whenever it will be up for sale
@jamiepitcher2055
@jamiepitcher2055 Жыл бұрын
Set up two or three of them so that when the wind changes you have power for your building no matter which way the wind blows... Plus a person could still combine this with other technologies so you could have one of these and some solar panels or maybe wind trees or I don't know other backups for when this one isn't working optimally to meet the needs at any given time. I think we need to start thinking it of sources of energy rather than being the soul energy source at any given time always be willing to use combination of things... I feel like looking for one solution to fix everything is kind of keeping us stuck in gas coil and oil and that's a huge problem and we're running out of time
@royshashibrock3990
@royshashibrock3990 Жыл бұрын
One glaring omission in this video: actual power numbers, especially compared to size of the unit, and to average wind speed needed to make the unit practical for a given site..
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to plant one of these next to the same $$$ worth of solar cells and see which one performs better over time each year going forward.
@loosenatural8171
@loosenatural8171 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from LooseNatural farm in Andalusia.
@tricallota
@tricallota Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is a maximum wind speed that it withstands and also if it works with wind gusts as well as constant wind. Greetings from Patagonia!
@Noname-me8dx
@Noname-me8dx Жыл бұрын
What about installing those in the median of highways. Lots if wind there
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