Insane Wifi 7 Router Shootout!!

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Insane Wifi 7 Router Shootout!!

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Chris Majestic

Күн бұрын

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@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

I’ve seen a few comments regarding Ubiquiti Unifi access points. Ironically, I use all Ubiquiti equipment in my personal home network and I actually purchased Ubiquiti’s new Unifi U7 Pro Max Access Point and planned on putting it in the video but the performance wasn’t as good as I expected. I could barely get any speeds over 1800GBPS and even if I could, the speeds are limited by the 2.5GB uplink port. Ubiquiti APs aren’t really built for raw speed. They’re built for high density and high reliability environments so it’s not necessarily an apples to apples comparison.

@Leksi80 Ай бұрын

Now that the Unifi MLO update is out for the WiFi7 devices, I would love to see your take on the Ubiquiti APs. Sure the raw speed might not compete with the top tier, but as a Unifi ecosystem user, would love to see the same test sweep since other channels don't seem to have a clue how to do proper comparisons on WiFi7. Mostly interested on the distance and wall penetration of different frequencies with Unifi. Don't really want to go outside of Unifi to get WiFi7, but I will if the basics aren't good. Top speed is not everything.

@empedance1933 Ай бұрын

Not sure how true it is but I've seen it mentioned a few times on forums that the regular U7 pro is better for 6ghz performance, but the pro max is better for 5ghz and 2.4ghz

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

@empedance1933 i have both and neither of them have ever given me crazy speeds like we saw in this video.

@empedance1933 Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMajestic interesting, good to know!

@synthwave7 Ай бұрын

@@empedance1933 Thanks Chrsi - interesting, good to know this about Ubiquiti - will stay away.

@bg048 Ай бұрын

Finally a good WiFi 7 router review. I don't know what it is, but most WiFi 7 router reviews suck. They either don't test with actual WiFi 7 clients, or don't compare them to other WiFi 7 routers, so you don't have an idea which one is the best. Thank you Sir!

@moemontana Ай бұрын

probably cause there are not that many Wi-Fi 7 devices out there this feature more of a future proofing feature.

@gags730 Ай бұрын

Most people don't even use Wifi 6 (AX) and its features .... never mind Wi-Fi 7. This is kind of like the Cart is ahead of the Horse. Start looking at Wifi connections and most are 802.11 ac... 802.11ax has been available for a long time in my area and anyone that gets Fiber installed the hardware they get supports it but literally 95% of customers only have ac support. Out of the 70 connections I can see (5Ghz Only) only 6 have Wifi 6 support (ax)

@Angelcee492 6 күн бұрын

I was just looking for a new Wifi-7 router and I was comparing all of the routers on this video. Found this video at the best time.

@gsmitchell Ай бұрын

Great comparison, thanks! Before I moved to Google Fiber and started using their mesh, I loved my TP Link router. Rock solid, great performance.

@UmVtCg Ай бұрын

Always nice to have a Chinese made router as an American.

@MrKevosmin 27 күн бұрын

@@UmVtCgwhat are you talking about?

@spalace7919 Ай бұрын

Awesome job

@LibreGlider Ай бұрын

I would be cool if next time you did access points as well. But that complicates the setup (kinda), but you don't strike me as some one why would shy away from a little network complexity. Nice vid! Good to see a non-sponsored WiFi 7 review!

@jaybailey216 Ай бұрын

The wife approval factor is not to be understated 😂 great comparison!

@ABarancic Ай бұрын

Love your videos, dude. Always my go to for these reviews. Thank you!

@herbaceousboredom9584 Ай бұрын

I swear one of the antennae on that ROG Rapture twitched; are you sure it's safe to keep in the house?

@floppercosplay5262 19 күн бұрын

Which one would be good for starlink?

@FabianWinkler Ай бұрын

With WIFI7 MLO and clients that support it, speeds should go way beyond 5GBit/s. This will be very interesting for WIFI7 enabled AR or VR headsets.

@tipoomaster 7 күн бұрын

I have a maybe niche question about this and Wifi 7 in general. On previous generations, I've always separated out my bands by SSID, so I could connect to the faster 5GHz band as whenever I noticed a device slowing down connectivity wise I had found it had hopped to the 2.4GHz band, and that always fixed it for me. I know Wifi 7 combines 3 bands and communicates over all at once, but that's only for Wifi 7 devices obviously. What about older AC or AX devices? Will I no longer be able to separate bands for them and have to rely on (imo unreliable) band steering?

@FatFolksProductions Ай бұрын

Always enjoy your reviews, fam. I'm waiting for you to drop a video on those new Orbi 770's, tho. I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

@ShaneMcGrath. Ай бұрын

Great review, I have a ASUS ROG AX11000 wifi 6(not 6e version) and was looking to future proof my network with a new router, Specifically one with 10GbE as I have a few devices and NAS setup. Seems like you have confirmed my next choice for the ASUS, But I must say that TP link is very tempting as well, Looks like it has quite good antenna's built in. Only problem is here in Australia I only see the ASUS BE98 for sale and not the Pro version, I think one has two 6Ghz channels and the other two 5Ghz or something like that is the only difference, Not sure which way I want to go in that regard.

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

I don’t believe the pro is available outside of the US. But to be fair, dual 6ghz bands are really necessary outside of mesh usage.

@SheaZerda 11 күн бұрын

Great video, very thorough. I would love to see latency tracked with the speeds as well. In situations like the basement test, in my experience speed can be great but ping and jitter can be horrendous. That said, my experience deploying APs and mesh systems ended around the dawn of WiFi 6 and most clients were using the cheapest possible options.

@Insertnamehere3000 Ай бұрын

Have you lost weight buddy, looking trim! Good job on the review

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

Thanks. I’ve lost over 100lbs 😁😁

@monroethegreat7539 Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMajestic salute looking good brotha

@Chaybee12 Ай бұрын

You're gonna need to add the ASUS ZenWiFi BQ16 Pro to this mix.

@theodorehartman5086 Ай бұрын

Hay Chris, I can't believe how far these routers have come along with the super expense involved. Thank you for the review of all these routers. It will make it easy for your readers to pick the one they want. I remember about 20 years ago paying $240 for a Sinology router. At that time that price was crazy. Since then, I've gone to a carrier that provides the router/access point for free, home Internet is $30 a month and I get 260mbs down and 40 mbs up all the time. I wonder how long it will take to get any of the streaming devices at Wi-Fi 7? I guess it's all well and good that this stuff goes fast but if the receiving device are not WIFI 7 compatible then why? or do they have to be. It's good that these super speeds are here but it's gonna take a long time to get the devices updated to take advantage of the speed.

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

I think the biggest benefit of Wifi 7 is for mesh wifi. It will allow the access points to connect to each other wirelessly with very fast speeds, negating the need to wire them together. Aside from that, there is very little incentive to jump and spend $600+ on a WiFi 7 router. Additionally, 6Ghz on WiFi 6E offers similar speeds for less money.

@ChaosDom69 Ай бұрын

You are the best thank you 😊 Getting the tplink prime sale yay 🤗

@stephenclark3859 Ай бұрын

GREAT JOB!! Loved the reviews.

@vincentwilkes9611 Ай бұрын

A very thorough review thanks.

@gags730 Ай бұрын

I will never buy a router without removable antennas. If you want the best performance, the antenna is a huge part of it. For those who have never replaced an antenna the best way to think of an antenna like a lightbulb. The Omnidirectional antennas on almost every router can be thought of like a lantern spreading the 'light' around everywhere. You are just wasting the light and its only bright close to the source. Omnidirectional is good for a device that moves around, but is a horrible choice for a device that stays put. When you switch antennas to something like a panel antenna, you can focus the ' light' like a flashlight and send that 'light' to where it's needed and not everywhere it is not. The most common thing I see is people spending more and more money on higher end products to fix a weak signal/ slow speeds. For most people they do not even download an app or have any tools to understand what is happening on the most basic level with their Wi-Fi connection, but they will spend hundreds of dollars on a new Router to get the same results and a small improvement. If you download an app you want to know what the Signal is and the RSSI. When you can get that RSSI value lower than -63.... well that's when things start to work very well and things speed up. If you have a poor signal/ Poor RSSI you may not actually be able to take advantage of features with the newest WiFi as it will default to a slower and more stable connection and it will not use the newest technology. Know your signal and RSSI before you buy anything. You have no idea how much faster and reliable your connection can be and the best part is how cheap it can be done for.

@J_Keyz 27 күн бұрын

Very well said. Which router would you recommend? 13:02

@VeauX1902 Күн бұрын

So at those prices, is any of those better than a unify could gateway + a unify access point?

@garryhammond3117 Ай бұрын

Thanks Chris - Great review. - Cheers!

@AponTechy 4 күн бұрын

Best Wifi 7 review

@adrianochoa7780 Ай бұрын

But on the graph the nighthawk outperformed tp link ? I’m torn between tp link and nighthawk as my two choices

@GameGeezer 29 күн бұрын

Personally I find netgear products sub par and would opt for the TP link if you’re not interested in Asus.

@MattHE-u5b Ай бұрын

@Chris Majestic The 5G bandwidth of eero MAX7 is often drop to only 80MHz, while the 5G bandwidth of other products is 160Mhz, so the measured performance is only about half of that of other products.

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

the speeds were low even for 80mhz. But this is why I begged Eero to give us more advanced options.

@timetriad6199 10 күн бұрын

Which of these have direct router login via the mobile and PC connection? Or do these companies want you to login to your router through THEIR servers? Forcing you to create an online account to login to your router? I’m not talking about REMOTE management.

@atharagha6795 Ай бұрын

Bro has low key a damn fine house haha - and great wifi7 review

@xkollx Ай бұрын

@ChrisMajestic Hey Chris are you gonna review the Benq TK710sti? Thinking about upgrading from my 700sti but not sure if it’s worth it, thanks!

@RD-uq4hg Ай бұрын

So I'm very tempted to get the Nighthawk but the RS300 which is less than half the price of the RS700 has a 2.5GB port instead of a 10GB one. I don't think this is likely to affect me since where I live the highest internet speed attainable is a few hundred Mb/s (I get 30Mb/s on average) but would appreciate your two cents. Also which provider are you with that you're able to get that much incoming and retain it at a distance??! Maybe it's because I'm in the UK but I've never even heard of speeds over 700Mb/s

@jamesneal1251 21 күн бұрын

Good vid thanks 🙏

@HimanshuSharma-nf1eg 28 күн бұрын

hello sir , i am facing a problem , i have a good quality soundbar(with arc port) , i have a macbook m1 pro (with arc port ) and i have a good quality arc cable but sir , the issue is -after connect the cable with both soundbar and macbook with "arc" option selected in the soundbar , the sound output is not delivering to the soundbar speakers . it is just coming from the macbook speakers , please help

@josephediter2 Ай бұрын

please add MLO feature test, thanks

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

I’ve yet to see MLO improve throughout like it claims. I’ve tried it on all of them that have it.

@alib.809 Ай бұрын

Great job ,, but i think most of these systems designed to be a mesh system ... We need to tests the range between mesh systems via wifi backhaul and stability .. am sure wired backhaul will be none issue for all of them... We need to see for greater distance between mesh nodes better to be on a 6ghz band like the asus or on a 5ghz band backhaul like the tp link i think that will be a more important comparison ... Thank you

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

I’m doing a separate video on mesh. Every year I showcase both single routers and mesh routers. Most people don’t need mesh and end up buying them unnecessarily and have slower speeds than they would with a single router.

@alib.809 Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMajestic nice, will be waiting for that.

@j340_official Ай бұрын

What the ubiquiti/unifi U7 Pro for $189 and the U7 Pro Max for $279. They’re access points not routers (and you will need a gateway and PoE) but still are much cheaper than say a single ASUS BE-98 pro.

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

I actually tested the new U7 Pro Max alongside all of these and it wasn’t performing nearly as well when it comes to throughput. It’s also limited by its 2.5GB uplink port. Unifi APs are not really built for raw speed. They are built for high stability and high client density. I ended up leaving it out of the video as I didn’t feel like it added anything helpful.

@j340_official Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMajestic ⁠it could still be interesting to mention it as these are the early days of WiFi 7 and there’s growing interest in WiFi 7. Your opinion in response to my comment is definitely interesting and could be useful for some consumers to avoid if at all possible. But also the price of $189 is cheaper than many of the other competitors… so trade offs. The ASUS is way faster for example, but is it really worth $800 for a router, especially since one router alone may not be sufficient to provide good coverage for a large house. Also, ethernet 10Gbps will still be faster than WiFi. So It’s debatable which model to go with. But in my opinion, the unifi management interface in its network application is pretty good compared to some of the other vendors it seems. The ASUS be98 pro seems to be a beast. I have the ASUS axe16000, a beast. Very strong performer. And I have unifi for protect security cameras and a couple their access points, including the u6 enterprise. One ASUS router is not enough for coverage all over my multi-level house. So I needed additional APs for good coverage. The u6 enterprise is A solid stable performer. But also not as fast as the ASUS. But for my high bandwidth applications like 4K Apple tv, gaming pc, ps5, i offloaded all of them from WiFi and they’re connected to Ethernet.

@fantasylandviews2320 10 күн бұрын

Can you test the arris g54?

@ruslanmykolyshyn5251 Ай бұрын

Good. Can you make a video about ASUS RT-BE88U Router

@brianball2963 Ай бұрын

How many devices can connect to the asus? I see the netgear one states 200 devices.

@GMIX1 Ай бұрын

Very informative review and you look fit and healthy. Keep up the good work on that, and keep those reviews coming.

@rombsix Ай бұрын

Why does the upload speed drop faster with distance and walls than does the download speed?

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

There are multiple variables but part of the reason is because the router has more power to push to the client vs the power to push back out to the router.

@rombsix Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMajestic - thanks 🙏

@cajampa Ай бұрын

Wow that 2.4 ghz test speeds was pretty garbage.

@BB-qp5xo 28 күн бұрын

How could you have the Eero Max 7 without TP Link DECO BE 65/85?

@Frameboy71 Ай бұрын

Good review. I ended up going with the Deco routers over just about everything you tested (not wifi 7) and the Deco router is absolute trash. Software is buggy, speed test only tests between modem and router, and subscription for security services, which are trash. I wish I could return it.

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

Wow. This is a rare one. What issues have you been having? Lots of people seem to love their Tp-link deco routers.

@FSB75 Ай бұрын

One of these days I'm gonna see the "non-RGB" router. It's a blend between fast and easy set up and SOME functionality. Don't really care about VPNs. I need no parental controls. I haven't used port forwarding in about a decade. Never used guest access. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda. I just want 6e (6GHz band) I want to hide my SSID Channel control Some access control (Block new devices) Static IPs Yet, it seems like I can either choose from the Star Ship Enterprise (RGB), or my ISP router that barely let's me change my SSID. FYI, I'm old school, so when I say "RGB", it's my way of saying all the bells and whistles. I prefer (except for Mob, and even then no actual RGB) stripped down versions. My rig sits under a desk, I never look at it. I'm sitting here watching this over the top router comparison (thank you) guide, and I'm thinking, I'm not trying to write my own firmware...but it is good to learn.

@the_real_micschan 8 күн бұрын

Please read this people: online gaming traffic is in the kilobytes/sec. No gaming router nor CAT7 or 8 cable will make your game experience better, or reduce latency. All you're paying for is a fancy looking toy router. I have an Ubiquiti router, which is much more secure and future proof. I'm on fibre. I proved to a friend that a faster router does not reduce latency by comparing my Unifi system and my cheap spare router which is a GL inet. I get 1 ms latency on both. What might make a difference is when you need SQM (Smart Queue Management) to reduce jitter and I bet that those expensive gaming routers don't have a good SQM implemented.

@babymaker13th Ай бұрын

Did you live at anytime in the Bronx you look so familiar to an old friend of mine ?

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

Nope

@babymaker13th Ай бұрын

Ok thanks 😅so close

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

😂😂

@feddan9401 Ай бұрын

What router do you use in your home network?

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

Unifi UDM SE

@feddan9401 Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMajestic What speeds do you get with it? I just recently got 5 gig fiber and am planning to use UDM Pro. Just don't know if it can handle it.

@iPsychlops Ай бұрын

These routers on the high end cost 2/3rds as much as my gaming PC 😖😅

@grizzlypaws461 25 күн бұрын

Weird results for the Max 7…

@BudgetGamerz Ай бұрын

Are your metrics in Mbps or MBps?

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

Mbps. (Bits) the metric throughput is usually measured in.

@BudgetGamerz Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMajestic ok your graphics had MBps... Which is megabytes... So I was a little confused

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

I must have missed the typo. Thanks for pointing that out!

@BudgetGamerz Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMajestic no problem. Thanks for the good review.

@07GSXR1G Ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥

@darylfortney8081 Ай бұрын

Deco?

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

Deco is mesh and not really they’re flagship. It will be in the mesh video though.

@darylfortney8081 Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMajestic you can just get one though and it acts just like any other router and it’s only $299

@DaeJhuan Ай бұрын

I get 9 mbps. I live in the country

@justmatt2655 Ай бұрын

9:57 60mbps is far from unusable lol. I usually get around 90 which is well fast enough for anything I need

@bloodcarver913 Ай бұрын

What? No Ubiquiti gear? Really?

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

I actually tested the new U7 pro max along with all of these but the speeds weren’t anywhere close to what the rest of these got. I need to do more testing with it.

@PSYCHOV3N0M Ай бұрын

Ubiquiti isn't THE holy grail of network equipment that some people think they are. 🤣🤣🤣

@Immortalized4evr 25 күн бұрын

I used to drink the ubiquiti kool-aid... but after living with the alien for 6 years, I have to say, the support was horrible. None of the parental controls worked. Setting bed times never really worked, labels wouldn't stick to device mac addresses, and they promised to support the usb port but straightub abandoned it . I'm no computer wiz by any means. However, I know enough to keep my network organized. My original asus router was a beast and allowed me to access much more intuitively than the ubiquiti alien.

@the_real_micschan 8 күн бұрын

@@Immortalized4evrThe Alien is a consumer router. Unifi and the other series are their proper networking equipment.

@the_real_micschan 8 күн бұрын

@@PSYCHOV3N0M Ummm, have you ever used Ubiquiti?

@Zeyek1 Ай бұрын

no test on wifi 7 speeds?

@ChrisMajestic Ай бұрын

All of the tests are Wifi 7. WiFi 7 spans across all 3 wireless bands. (6ghz, 5ghz, 2.4ghz)

@synthwave7 Ай бұрын

I am surprised at TP-Link - cheap Chinese - don't trust this brand after experience. That ASUS design looks terrible - no way I would purchase that type of router.

@PSYCHOV3N0M Ай бұрын

Function > Form. That's what the Asus router provides.

@redclaw72666 19 күн бұрын

@@PSYCHOV3N0Mmore like broken vs function lol Asus fanboys are the worst

@moemontana Ай бұрын

who really needs a router that's over 699 over 300 really

@PSYCHOV3N0M Ай бұрын

You get what you pay for.

@johnszatkowski6898 8 күн бұрын

Yes, WiFi 7 is impressive BUT, all of your current devices will NOT ever utilize it as most devices are NOT even WiFi 6 or AX speeds! Unless you have the "newest" smartphone that can take advantage is this it is NOT worth it any ANY price and will NOT be for several years! MOST WiFi cameras and other current "tech" still live in the wireless "N" would and not AC, or AX and only connect on the 2.5GHz channel! I bought a WiFi 6 router almost FOUR years ago now and still most devices do NOT support it with the exceptions of my newer phone and Amazon Fire Cube 3rd gen. The rest of the devices are STILL in a world before AC routers! DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY because you will NOT benefit from the features that today's devices don't even support!