Insanely Low DC-3 Passes (and One-Wheeled Landing) at EAA Airventure 2017!

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7 жыл бұрын

A 1937 Douglas DC-3 performs a series of low passes at Airventure followed by an awesome one-wheeled landing!

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@dangryder3763
@dangryder3763 4 жыл бұрын
This is Dan. I flew this flight at OSH 2017 and it was not during airshow. It was just one morning when it was kind of quiet and GA arrivals were on Runway 27 so runway 18 wasn't getting used for much. I asked for left circuits on 18 and it was approved, there is nothing insane about the flying. I fly this plane from the right seat so simple circuits on a very long 18 were not a problem. The turn in looks a bit sharper than it really was, but this was at ATC (tower) request in order to keep us well south of GA arrivals flying right downwind for 27. I don't fly this aircraft, I am one with it, and I sense each and every sound and vibration as it happens. It is a very harmonious method of flying gracefully and there was no high G, aerobatic, or dangerous aspect of this flight. This was very simple graceful flight operating the craft exactly the way Mr. Douglas designed it to be operated. Thank you for your comments. I will be happy to answer any further questions. Dan Gryder
@geoffreydemaesschalck6065
@geoffreydemaesschalck6065 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic flying Sir !!
@edwardhasiak7961
@edwardhasiak7961 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful airplane and awesome flying! How close was that plane to you at 2:37?
@kh3612
@kh3612 2 жыл бұрын
Poetry in motion!
@captaincurle4529
@captaincurle4529 Жыл бұрын
You'd probably be the best one to ask, what causes that slight "whistling" sound that can be heard in the flyby?
@ZacYates
@ZacYates 22 күн бұрын
Is this the aircraft you tried to run over the police in or was it another airframe?
@walterpalmer2749
@walterpalmer2749 5 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest aircrafts ever built. the DC-3's length of service says it all.
@leifvejby8023
@leifvejby8023 4 жыл бұрын
And it has replaced almost all of the DC-3 replacements!
@stephenindc9102
@stephenindc9102 Жыл бұрын
... "The" ....
@rossjackson7134
@rossjackson7134 4 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful,aircraft ever made.
@tomingle683
@tomingle683 4 жыл бұрын
SECOND ONLY TO THE SPITFIRE.
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomingle683 And the Mustang. And The Constellation, And The Grumman Tiger I had, LOL.. And I flew DC3's for 344 hours..
@mikezinn7212
@mikezinn7212 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. I remember them so well as kid in South Africa. Treated myself to a 50th birthday present to fly on a local DC3 here in Sydney, Australia 10 ten ago. Sensational!
@gukakmakuk
@gukakmakuk 5 жыл бұрын
the DC 3 is pure wings, still great looking after so many years
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 4 жыл бұрын
They age like Plutonium 239. Plutonium 239 half-life = 24,100 years.
@stevebroughton4787
@stevebroughton4787 3 жыл бұрын
Still looks modern, still earning a living too !. And oh......that sound ❤
@randyporter3491
@randyporter3491 6 жыл бұрын
Great, great, great video !! Thanks so much for sharing this incredible performance. Such a classic, iconic aircraft, with those song-bird radials, combined with amazing skills by the pilot. Loved it !!
@andyhughes9763
@andyhughes9763 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the man behind the controls does know what he is doing. I spent over 20yrs in a DC-3 spraying in South Carolina at tree top levels. And I do miss it. Great show!
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
You are a great pilot.. They dont maneuver well. Heavy controls..
@craigpennington1251
@craigpennington1251 6 жыл бұрын
What an outstanding example. I'd take a trip on the plane any day. Thanks for Not adding music. This is great stuff.
@funkyglider1216
@funkyglider1216 6 жыл бұрын
Well done, Sir, what an amazing piece of machinery and what a skillful pilot, indeed
@ahoo5753
@ahoo5753 4 жыл бұрын
The best most graceful plane ever built,and still being used in some parts of the world
@antoniopontes3895
@antoniopontes3895 2 жыл бұрын
Lindas rasantes! Excelente piloto.
@colmocallaghan6626
@colmocallaghan6626 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful.....pure music....
@jtveg
@jtveg 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That one wheel landing was awesome. Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻
@stephenindc9102
@stephenindc9102 Жыл бұрын
I love the DC-3.
@matthewcallnan2051
@matthewcallnan2051 5 жыл бұрын
Hard to imagine it only took 35 years to go from the Wright brothers flying kite...to that!
@friendlypiranha774
@friendlypiranha774 Жыл бұрын
That plane is so lovable I just want to hug it.
@HomeAtLast501
@HomeAtLast501 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Lunken Airport in Cincinnati. Love the sound of that engine.
@scottbangoarce4836
@scottbangoarce4836 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Willow Run airport, SE Michigan. Also, the sound in the sky of my childhood.
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
Martha Lunken used to teach on them..
@bertmonroe2605
@bertmonroe2605 4 жыл бұрын
Beutiful plane the best these old birds were really something powerful well built great design very nice thank you
@cidertom5140
@cidertom5140 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful noise love the sound of a radial fantastic pilot with balls!!!
@wigwam622
@wigwam622 6 жыл бұрын
That pilot knows his machine.
@captlarry-3525
@captlarry-3525 6 жыл бұрын
who wants to fly with a pilot who doesn't ? !!
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
@@captlarry-3525 . Many only know the easy to learn stuff.
@tundramanq
@tundramanq 3 жыл бұрын
That's Dan Gryder an aviation safety oriented you tuber.
@stevebroughton4787
@stevebroughton4787 6 жыл бұрын
What a sound, beautiful.....a talented pilot who knows the plane well.....nice to see it flown for the enjoyment of flying too.
@robobloxgamer524
@robobloxgamer524 5 жыл бұрын
You just can't beat the sound of a radial, well, except for maybe a Merlin during a high speed pass.
@stevebroughton4787
@stevebroughton4787 3 жыл бұрын
@@robobloxgamer524 there are many legendary engines around, all special in their own way.
@telesniper2
@telesniper2 Жыл бұрын
2:36 Dude in that Cherokee 140 is trying to pull a Craig Hutain!!!!!
@armenio1947
@armenio1947 6 жыл бұрын
Great plane, excellent video and good work.
@mikecamrcplus3057
@mikecamrcplus3057 Жыл бұрын
The magic of Oshkosh. The person taking video was in front of the homebuilt HQ. Same place there is a nice park bench for sitting and not far away a big soft ice cream stand. Everyday at lunch I would buy a big soft ice cream and sit at the bench watching the planes landing. This day I was treated to not only ice cream but Dan Gryder doing low flyby's in his DC3.
@efraindavila4638
@efraindavila4638 3 жыл бұрын
Maniobras muy riesgosas y muy buena grabación!...gracias.
@FlavioSpirit
@FlavioSpirit 2 жыл бұрын
Boa noite !!!! Nunca me canso de assistir esse vídeo. Bom demais...... O barulho desses motores é fantástico. O melhor Avião da história. Sem dúvidas...... Obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal. Abraço do Brasil......
@nickperos954
@nickperos954 2 жыл бұрын
I have given up airshows. I do not want a pilot to give up his life to entertain me. Yes, the crowd will roar and want more excitement to fill their desire to be entertained. There is never enough you see. A pilots life is worth so much more than the entertainment of selfish wishes.
@adrianaclark8498
@adrianaclark8498 Жыл бұрын
My father made two one wheel landings during a thirty year career of flying DC-3's and C-47's. (they were landings due to damage to the plane during hazardous flying when an attempt to shoot it down resulted in damage to one engine). He said, "this damn plane can get through nearly everything. It may come in on its last leg, but, by God, it WILL come in"!
@e-rj8984
@e-rj8984 5 жыл бұрын
Super skilled pilot ❤
@kennethwebber1896
@kennethwebber1896 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to have flown to Biera Mozambique on a Air Rhodesia DC3 as a kid from Salisbury airport, they had big comfy seats.
@steveholmes5207
@steveholmes5207 5 жыл бұрын
A pilot at one with his aircraft beautiful
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Any operator one with their machine is a beautiful union, even if it is just a lowly automobile, or a diesel generator. Not many join deeply with a machine in a way that there is a, dep devotion to it and they know it so well. When we see an old man with just a 1976 Cordoba many think it is just an old man that bought an old car. But if the old man has had that Cordoba from when it was new, that is almost a mystical bond. What about a person that salvaged and has rebuilt the engines of an old boat 30 years ago and still has it running like new. That is much more than an owner and his machine. That is a person one with his boat and he knows every screw and bolt on it.
@GoldSealFlight
@GoldSealFlight 6 жыл бұрын
Here's more info about the Gold Seal DC-3: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/np9nY9CVtNzRp6s.html&t
@anbrod1
@anbrod1 2 жыл бұрын
such a cool pilot!
@tomedgar4375
@tomedgar4375 4 жыл бұрын
Love the DC-3 #1 on my bucket list is to sit left seat in one if it’s only for one flight
@silviodaluz6074
@silviodaluz6074 3 жыл бұрын
Lindo. Espetacular. que. show. nota. 1000. Parabens
@jomott8133
@jomott8133 4 жыл бұрын
A beautiful airplane.....
@EdisonGuerrasr
@EdisonGuerrasr 4 жыл бұрын
I miss my childhood seeing the DC-3 passing over my home in São Paulo-Brasil, in the 60's!
@domingoj4702
@domingoj4702 6 жыл бұрын
Crazy and cool
@anniechrisbendy6000
@anniechrisbendy6000 4 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT FLYING
@Simonize41
@Simonize41 2 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing greater than a DC-3. Props to the pilot also. Skilz.
@chuckwagon5518
@chuckwagon5518 3 жыл бұрын
Not only is the DC-3 one of the greatest planes ever made in the history of aviation, it's also one of the coolest-looking!
@stephenindc9102
@stephenindc9102 Жыл бұрын
When you ask a kiddo to draw a plane ... they draw a DC-3 !
@Bettiem44
@Bettiem44 6 жыл бұрын
Gave me a lump in the throat to see such flying expertise, albeit no margin of error. Watching absolutely puts one in that pilot's skin. He or she must have personally sensed the ground effect through real empathy with the plane.
@StudioDaVeed
@StudioDaVeed Жыл бұрын
If the flight dynamics in MS flight sim are in anyway legitimate...low passes are not much to speak of...the DC-3 hates to land, lol. (DC-6 also)...bring her in at speed and she'll do passes all day no problem...you damn near Have to force it to go low...she wants up in the sky, thank you ;)
@artist92543
@artist92543 4 жыл бұрын
I almost got a chance to fly one of these...I SO wanted to do it!
@mrvoyagerm
@mrvoyagerm 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad flew one of those over 4000 hours in the Canadian Arctic after the war.
@LCMNUNES1962
@LCMNUNES1962 2 жыл бұрын
DC3 EXCELENT AIRPLANE, BEAUTIFUL SONG RADIAL ENGINES
@charliechaplin3383
@charliechaplin3383 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing ! D-3...best design ever.
@jacobmoses3712
@jacobmoses3712 5 жыл бұрын
In New Zealand, the company Fieldair used DC3s for aerial top dressing or crop dusting as it is known in USA. It worked until high avgas (aviation fuel) prices made their use uneconomic. There was even talk of converting them to LPG, but I don't know if any aircraft were
@coops4549
@coops4549 Жыл бұрын
I remember those planes as a kid and their yellow & white livery
@flyingfortressrc1794
@flyingfortressrc1794 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that's Dan from the Probable Cause channel
@ianthebadguy
@ianthebadguy 3 жыл бұрын
...? One-wheel landing? Who even does this, and why?! Amazing video.
@angelosantos0305
@angelosantos0305 4 жыл бұрын
Uma bela e boa aeroneve.
@martwalker8336
@martwalker8336 6 жыл бұрын
What a pilot-makes yr toes tingle
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 4 жыл бұрын
That is called the beginnings of a planegasm. If you were inside the plane, you would have gone full air-climax. If you were in the cockpit, multiple engine planegasms with violent pilot induced oscillation.
@ramonpotertv9392
@ramonpotertv9392 4 жыл бұрын
Aquí en Colombia son unos BURRITOS del AIIRE..... 🌈🌹
@GOASTRC
@GOASTRC 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome low passes! A radial or V-12 close by is sweet sweet music! Shame about other jibberish.
@gwsoup
@gwsoup 6 жыл бұрын
excellent cross wind technique
@petroniloparedes8019
@petroniloparedes8019 4 жыл бұрын
Bonito video Gracias y saludos 🛫🛬👍
@stuartk.9104
@stuartk.9104 5 жыл бұрын
Great example of the ground effect
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 4 жыл бұрын
Did you notice the pilot was so in tune with his aircraft that there was no oscillation at all? I have seen low passes with so much pilot induced oscillation that you would think the pilot was going to oscillate into the ground, nose first.
@edwarddurrant175
@edwarddurrant175 4 жыл бұрын
I was licensed engineer on Dc3. Best ever built. Can check flight record.
@fcukmegently
@fcukmegently 5 жыл бұрын
Proper plane!
@silviodaluz6074
@silviodaluz6074 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastico. e. corajoso. esse. piloto. isso. que. e. show. aereo. com. aviao. desse. porte
@bertcushman7427
@bertcushman7427 3 жыл бұрын
well I'm I'm impressed!! cheers 🍾🍾🍾
@dordtonline5340
@dordtonline5340 3 жыл бұрын
You can and in some cases must land with one wheel in a cross wind situation. In this case, the wing is lowered towards the direction from which the wind is coming.
@kennesaw101
@kennesaw101 4 жыл бұрын
This is N143D based at Griffin , Ga. One of the oldest DC-3's still flying. Formally painted in the Herpa scheme
@kirbylee57
@kirbylee57 4 жыл бұрын
pretty slick aviator there.
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 4 жыл бұрын
02:37 What was that Cherokee doing there in the middle of a performance?
@veritasetlibertas7889
@veritasetlibertas7889 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe that I got my ATP in the DC-3 (at Bassler) and have over 3,000hrs in it PIC/SIC.
@Av8tor16
@Av8tor16 7 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I was so confused as to why this DC-3 was making so many low passes at the time!
@mialouraymond3809
@mialouraymond3809 6 жыл бұрын
C EST TOUT ??
@darshansingh6888
@darshansingh6888 6 жыл бұрын
exp.& courage both count on such movements. shabash pilots
@jefferycollins3740
@jefferycollins3740 6 жыл бұрын
Wisconsin Flying
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 4 жыл бұрын
This video is great for those who dont recgonize the difference in sound between an opposed engine and a radial engine. Opposed engines are lighter sounding, putterier, and sharper. Radials are smoother, deeper and heavier sounding. They rumble, and have a nice rythym from the camring & counterweight rotation. And the ones that have roller valve tappets have the smoothest sound of all. Best heard on a proper surround sound system. Or, better yet, in person. :)
@therpmfreek7383
@therpmfreek7383 Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that someone thought it was a good idea to put a website on an antique masterpiece.
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! The pilot must have been born in the back of thst DC-3 and was playing at the controls at one year of age. He probably first flew it at ten years of age and by 15 years of age he was flying solo.
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 4 жыл бұрын
ReLLY???
@ayokay123
@ayokay123 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, that one wheel drag was pretty freakin' impressive.
@gunner4q
@gunner4q 6 жыл бұрын
you should see him drag the tail wheel..awesome!
@ayokay123
@ayokay123 6 жыл бұрын
Can you provide a link? I'd love to see that.
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
@@ayokay123 He is kidding you.
@QuantumPyrite_88.9
@QuantumPyrite_88.9 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best drug smuggling aircraft ever built . Thanks for this great video .
@tailsnumber1fan5590
@tailsnumber1fan5590 3 жыл бұрын
let's hope some of these stay this way rather than going to be BT-67's.
@ghostkitchen2430
@ghostkitchen2430 2 жыл бұрын
This is what premier 1 driver flew in world war 2!
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
Who was flying it?? Nice one tire roll out..
@northcoasthelicam
@northcoasthelicam 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is probably someone's ride home!
@gregmaggielipscomb9246
@gregmaggielipscomb9246 2 жыл бұрын
YEE HAW. a Gooneey Bird down on the deck!!
@graemewilliams1308
@graemewilliams1308 6 жыл бұрын
The side stresses on that starboard main gear ! Smoke from smooth port main wheel touch down looks like brake applied ?
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was one hell of a lurch for a low speed touchdown onto a 'free' wheel, but it does look like any toes that MAY have been involved - backed off PDQ!
@XRP747E
@XRP747E 5 жыл бұрын
Left wheel had to suddenly accelerate from a static condition. The sudden weight put on that wheel when lowered was greater than a normal landing when the wheels can tickle the runway and accelerate more slowly. A DC3 can be made to land so gently that the passengers don't know exactly when touch down occurs.
@tresaq11
@tresaq11 5 жыл бұрын
Are there places where you can ride on these old airplanes. I am sure that there are enough enthusiasts to make it profitable.
@tonydeaton1967
@tonydeaton1967 Жыл бұрын
Looks like Dan Gryder's DC-3.
@mikecamrcplus3057
@mikecamrcplus3057 Жыл бұрын
It is. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jLh3Y8SXvp-oaac.html&ab_channel=FlightChops
@1954Augusto
@1954Augusto 4 жыл бұрын
😍😍
@otherbob23
@otherbob23 5 жыл бұрын
That's just flightchops, no need to worry unless you're in a cub....
@tophampaul
@tophampaul 4 жыл бұрын
Rotary engines actually rotate with the propeller. Radial engines are so named after the fact that the cylinders are racially placed but the propeller rotates on a crank shaft drive, the cylinders remain stationary. 1st we Sopwith Camel for example was rotary engined. Created a sharp turn to port due to torque.
@tophampaul
@tophampaul 4 жыл бұрын
Make that radially, not racially. Predictive presumption again, darn it
@royalanania3306
@royalanania3306 3 жыл бұрын
There are old pilots,and bold pilots,but there are no Old Bold pilots. Flies well and the DC-3 us a magnificent plane a monument to American 🏈 aviation. A Marilyn Monroe that won't die.
@Gamerboy-gy1rl
@Gamerboy-gy1rl Жыл бұрын
Dan gryder is 60 so your analogy kinda failed here
@ZsomborZsombibi
@ZsomborZsombibi 4 жыл бұрын
That pilot seems to know what he's doing.
@johnc7144
@johnc7144 4 жыл бұрын
Old metal is fatigued metal. A one wheel landing puts incredible stress on landing gear and air frame. You get away with it today probably not tomorrow.
@hectormolina6956
@hectormolina6956 4 жыл бұрын
Dice what else que
@yd6698
@yd6698 4 жыл бұрын
Lowpass Only
@JT-SE-OHIO
@JT-SE-OHIO 4 жыл бұрын
One wheel landing @ 4:00. Your welcome.
@bobdocteurvelo7535
@bobdocteurvelo7535 4 жыл бұрын
Si quelqu'un peut m'expliquer pourquoi ce bruit, ce son me met dans des états pareils, je lui paye une bière ! j'en peux plus de ce son ! surtout quand il s'éloigne ! terrible !
@artmadsen7297
@artmadsen7297 4 жыл бұрын
Ce bruit est typique du DC-3, tant a l'interieur qu'a l'exterieur. Les moteurs Pratt & Whitney, Modele-1850, je crois, sont, evidemment, a plein regime au decollage et durant la montee.
@carloslvaldez7239
@carloslvaldez7239 4 жыл бұрын
80 year old design
@randomnickify
@randomnickify 4 жыл бұрын
So we have Wheeli, Stoppie and ... Wingie?
@creativeturbo
@creativeturbo 4 жыл бұрын
2:37 almost crashes
@jettthewolf9119
@jettthewolf9119 6 жыл бұрын
I think flight chops flew that airplane
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
Hell no.. He didnt make the grade..
@kenjohan
@kenjohan 6 жыл бұрын
"Insanely Low DC-3 " It doesn't appear to be any lower than DC-3s in general.
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
Near collision at 02:36.. WTF is that Cherokee doing there in the middle of a performance???
@TheJeffcooz
@TheJeffcooz 4 жыл бұрын
thats both dangerous and a farce- serious collision avoided that would of been messy
@iflyc77
@iflyc77 4 жыл бұрын
It’s Oshkosh and not a performance. He is just doing low passes during the normal operations
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
@@iflyc77 - WTF. That was a Near Hit..
@iflyc77
@iflyc77 4 жыл бұрын
@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC not sure if you're joking or not. He was landing on the parallel runway. Not a big deal
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
@@iflyc77 . Maybe it looks closer than real. But If that cherokee overshoots the runway by a few hundred feet. Its looks bad anyway.
@jettthewolf9119
@jettthewolf9119 6 жыл бұрын
Not this exact flight
@eduardocontardi9452
@eduardocontardi9452 Жыл бұрын
okay, but I like Joe "Buffalo" McBryan better. Is the owner of Buffalo Airways in Canada.
@chucklemasters6433
@chucklemasters6433 2 жыл бұрын
is not any properly done xwind landing a one wheeled landing. i routinely do one wheeled passes down the runway in my luscombe purely to show off and the fact is it is much easier to steer on one wheel than on two! anybody who is awed by a one wheel pass in a taildragger probably has little or no time flying one.
@Russianpaintrain
@Russianpaintrain 2 жыл бұрын
And how to we lose fine vintage aircraft ? , with stunts and 80 year old pilots like this , every year , somewhere.
@astircalix4126
@astircalix4126 4 жыл бұрын
Another clickbait? No, I Guess the PIC pushed the structural limits next to the red líne. Old aircraft should be preserved from crashing ( you know the saying" there aren't old bold pilots " ) . High "G'" manoeuvres should be avoided at all cost.
@raycoleman3183
@raycoleman3183 3 жыл бұрын
@Astircalix…..what video were you watching? While I generally agree with your sentiments regarding preservation of classic aircraft, there were no high loads imposed on the airframe in these flybys.
@astircalix4126
@astircalix4126 3 жыл бұрын
@@raycoleman3183 I partially agree with you. At some point, it appears that the structure will not be damaged. But let's not forget that this old plane is as old as most of the surviving WWII pilots who still walk around. What I meant was to take care of the old DC 3´s / C47´s as we take care of its veteran pilots. Cheers from Argentina!
@Gamerboy-gy1rl
@Gamerboy-gy1rl Жыл бұрын
​@@astircalix4126 you people keep saying there are old pilots and bold pilots but this pilot is both 💀💀 the fact the dude is in his 60s ruins your whole argument. Dan gryder is a calculated and careful pilot with great skill. I'd stop armchair quarterbacking
@astircalix4126
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@@Gamerboy-gy1rl I'm not a wheelchair quarterback. I am a former Flight Safety Officer and Aircraft Accident Investigator. Now, back to the problem you pointed out: I'm not talking about Dan Gryder's aeronautical prowess; on the other hand, I think that old planes should be handled differently so that they are preserved for the next generations. I assume you conflate both arguments.
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