Thanks Pete, appreciate the kind words, and yes I am so glad to see that third party manufacturers are pushing boundaries for Micro Four Thirds platform!

@@robinwong Unfortunately, this lens is dedicated to APS-C sensor format you "suffer" as mft-user the crop factor 2. Imagine it would be for mft-only and without cropping.

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. I admit this lens is not for everyone, and I also don't need it. However we do need the manufacturers to keep pushing boundaries! Having the widest lens for M43, Laowa deserves some praise!

Thanks Guy, appreciate the kind words!

Thanks, glad I can share!

Thanks Fabs! Appreciate that

Thanks Toni, glad you found this useful!

Thanks for the kind words! You should definitely give this lens a try, after all this is indeed the widest M43 lens at the moment.

Thanks Vincent for the kind words! I really do like the lens!

Thanks Steve, you are too kind!

Thanks Richard, appreciate that coming from you. Loving the small wide primes Laowa is making!

Thanks Rene!

Thanks!

I wonder how far "in the future"? Aside from Sigma, I can't think of many third party manufacturers who make AF MFT lenses. Is it that hard I wonder? But I'm glad that they're starting to include the contacts for aperture & exif data.

Cheers

I am innocent!

It really is impressive what Laowa came up with

Yeah, too bad I live in the city. I think some night photography with this lens would be awesome

@@robinwong Probably too bright for a milky way shot in the city, but star trails could still work with live composite. Maybe combine some traffic light trails with star trails somewhere in the city? The lens should allow to get A LOT into the frame.

There is no comparison. Both are very different lenses. One at 6mm, and one at 9mm, the field of view are so far different.

58mm

No AF, no go. Besides, I used 9mm without thinking, the AF just sticks to my face. Can't be bothered to use manual focus, I'm a photographer not a videographer.

What the iPhone super wide cannot do is deliver the clarity that the Laowa 6mm can. I’ve done 1:1 comparisons between an EM1 Mk3 with Laowa 6mm cine lens and the iPhone 13 super wide camera. On a 27-inch monitor, full screen, not zoomed in, there’s absolutely no comparison. The images from the iPhone are utter trash compared to the EM1. Drop down to an iPad-sized screen, and it gets harder to tell at quick glance, but on closer inspection, the iPhone images don’t hold up. On an iPhone-sized screen it’s hard to tell much difference without zooming in. Of course, phones these days do a lot of real-time processing to enhance images, and it’s most apparent, to me anyway, in “improved” colors and lighting, which you can do to camera photos in post. I’d argue that sometimes the color and lighting of phone images are over processed and, arguably, fake looking. At any rate, I believe the iPhone super wide is 13mm, so the 6mm (i.e. 12mm) captures a little wider view, but they’re both very similar in terms of the captured scene. I’ve not felt the need to correct any portraits, or landscapes for that matter, from the 6mm. The 6mm renders very straight lines across the entire image. If anything, in rare cases, I’ve noticed the 6mm images are slightly more compressed in the center of the image compared to the iPhone super wide, but they both stretch objects the farther from center you go. Hope this helps.

@@stevenw3393 Thank you Steven that is really helpful.

Thanks George. As much as I do love the lens, I don't need such a wide coverage. I don't do architecture or interior shooting. For my needs the Panasonic 9mm will suffice.

Why would you do that? It is like comparing a 35mm to 85mm lens. Two totally different focal lengths.

If you need that much width, then yes.

perhaps you used digital zoom, which is a crop of your picture. if you zoom with the zoomring on your lens there is no difference in filed of view in jpg and raw

Yeah that is a fisheye, a different lens

GM1 has handling and ergonomic issues on its own, regardless of which lens you use. I think the Laowa is still quite a light lens, at around 180g, so it should not be an issue with GM1. And you control the aperture from the camera.

Considering both Olympus and Panasonic do not have 6mm yet, I'd say yes, it is challenging.

It does on my gx9, yes

I don't think the price is unreasonable. Considering all ultra wide angle lenses from Olympus and Panasonic, the 7-14mm, 8-25mm, 8-18mm, are significantly more expensive (double or triple the price of Laowa 6mm), and Laowa is still the widest lens of them all, I think that asking price is justified. And if you need this lens, I believe it is almost like a godsent! Small price to pay, if it brings in the results that some people may need, especially those that need every bit of width in their frame.

That's comparing a lion to an apple.

@@robinwong why if i might ask. Because af , or?

Two different focal lengths, built for different purposes and shooting scenarios. What works for 6mm doss not work for 9mm. What I use 9mm for, the 6mm would be too wide and won't do the job as effectively. Much like comparing a 35mm to 50mm lenses. Both are not the same and they should not be compared.

@@robinwong ok. Then i need to rethink what i would use it for. Never thought 6mm angle of view is that different compare to 9mm

Reasons why the 6mm Laowa is better for wide angle photography than any fisheye lens: 1. After correction to full rectilinear, the fisheye loses significant amount of width, and will no longer be as wide as 6mm true rectilinear 2. After severe correction, the fisheye image will lose a lot of sharpness and contrast away from the center of image. When technical control is important, shooting non distorted interiors and architecture that clients demand sharp corner to corner performance, the fisheye lens fails due to excessive pixel stretching. There are several other flaws exaggerated due to this, but I think you get my point. 3. The Laowa is cheaper. If you want to buy a Fisheye lens, use it as a fisheye lens. Don't use it as something else. It CANNOT replace a true rectilinear ultra wide without some significant compromises. I can understand if someone says they don't need such a wide lens, that is fine, honestly I don't need it too. However, for those who shoot a lot of interiors, and architecture, and need every bit of width they can squeeze into their shot, the Laowa 6mm is a godsent.

This is the widest MFT liniar lens. And you can use filters on it, unlike fisheye on which you can't.

I just got mine! I bought it without hesitation as it reminds me of one of my all time favourite lenses…the Zeiss 38mm Biogon as attached to the Hasselblad SW/C. I used that lens in more situations than was considered normal at the time. That rectilinear lens had only a 90 degree field of view and this one is 120… Now I need to learn how to correct the slight barrel distortion in post.