Inside Look: Rab Kinetic Alpine 2.0 Jacket

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The Kinetic Alpine has been used and loved by Trekitt for years - the New 2.0 features updated materials and an improved fit to make this classic even better. The Kinetic Alpine 2.0 is a very unique creature; it takes the softness, stretchiness and breathability of a softshell, and the waterproof capabilities of a hard shell to create a jacket halfway between the two. It's perfect for use in the same situations as you'd normally use a softshell, but where the weather may be a little more changeable.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:15 - What is the Kinetic Alpine 2.0 Jacket?
02:33 - What is it made of?
06:42 - What are its features?
09:39 - How does it fit?
11:33 - Where does it fit in the layering system?
12:34 - Summary
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@devo69er 2 жыл бұрын

Great review guys! In-depth as always, I have been very interested in this piece as my other shell wears like a trash bag lol, thank you for all of your reviews, especially during these difficult pandemic times as leaving the house to shop isn’t always an option, it really helps make informed decisions on gear when having to order online. You sirs and Hanna are doing the world a great service 👍😊

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

Ah you're welcome, thanks for the kind words! Harry

@30m3 3 жыл бұрын

I wish they did this in better colours. I undertstand the use of bright colours but they could do like Arcteryx and release nice subtle earth tones and pastels too.

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It I know what you mean. Thanks for watching. Paul.

@jontyarcheryedgar 3 жыл бұрын

Currently have the original Kinetic Alpine trousers and they are utterly amazing; spent several very wet days in Dartmoor with them and the performed perfectly; anything thinking about getting any of the Kinetic Alpine range should go for it!

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Great advice! Thanks for watching. Paul.

@welshwarrior5263 3 жыл бұрын

I want one. A very honest review. Thank you.

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

That’s all you’ll get from me; total honesty! Thanks for watching. Paul.

@welshwarrior5263 3 жыл бұрын

@@trekitt That's why you are my go to shop for the best camping and clothing gear. Thanks for posting.

@terrydactyl6751 3 жыл бұрын

Has Harry had a pay rise yet🤔 Bought this jacket off you guys last week and its amazing! Anthea 😍😍

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I'm sure that you will love using it. Paul.

@AnthonyRicco 2 жыл бұрын

Hello @trekitt folks. Thanks for another exceptional video. With as breathable as this appears to be, would it take the place of the Rab Vapor Rise Summit? I know the latter is exceptionally breathable, has the soft, brushed lining, and is somewhat rain resistant. Is the Kinetic Alpine a bit more versatile due to its ability to keep the wearer drier in very wet weather? If only buying one, are the two close enough that the Kinetic would be the one to get? Lastly, is the fit the same on both or is the sizing different? Thanks in advance and keep up the terrific work.

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

The two aren't reallllyyy comparable. The Kinetic Alpine is a super breathable waterproof, whereas the VR Summit is a super breathable insulated layer. For fast moving activities in relatively tame conditions, the VR is king. Sizing is fairly similar; both are on the slim side, but the VR has more room in the arms/shoulders. Harry

@jonstrongman3292 3 жыл бұрын

I own the original Kinectic Alpine and I love it, soft and quiet to wear. However I have to be careful in the bush here in Australia as I’ve already put a small hole in it. Where as my Arcteryx Theta hard shell is absolutely bomb proof in the bush, but noisy to wear and I don’t find it as breathable. I’m still waiting for the perfect shell...

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Aren’t we all Jon! Thanks for watching. Paul.

@srbmckenzie 2 жыл бұрын

Trying to decide on a decent hill walking jacket for my wife… this looks great, but so does the Mountain Equipment Womens Saltoro Jacket. Any reason to choose one over the other?

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

The Saltoro is a great jacket for prolonged, heavy rain when moving a little slower. The Kinetic is more of a half-way house between a softshell and a hardshell, so more when you need good weather resistance with more breathability. Harry

@HarryL2020 2 жыл бұрын

I've got the normal kinetic 2.0, on the website it says it's less waterproof on the rating system, but they're the same fabric?

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

The Alpine has reinforced shoulders/arms/hood, so I'd assume that would add a little extra weather protection. In reality they're very similar. Harry

@Scouseking 3 жыл бұрын

When are you getting stock for the arcteryx atom LT hoody in kingfisher colour ?

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

We've got 3 more in a size large arriving later this month (exact date not known unfortunately) and more due around the beginning of May. I'd recommend selecting the size you need on our website and click the 'notify' button - this'll send you an email the minute they arrive with us so you don't miss out. Harry

@aland6785 3 жыл бұрын

How does the Rab compare to the ME Orbital jkt, it seems like a similar product?

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Orbital is slightly longer, more breathable and will fit a helmet underneath its hood, whereas the Kinetic is more packable and has a more 'head-shaped' hood if you'll rarely wear a climbing helmet. Realistically, both are brilliant pieces and it largely comes down to fit. Harry

@mirco5546 Жыл бұрын

So do you think the non-alpine Kinetic 2.0 lacks the tougher Nylon bits and has a softer feel over the whole jacket? Cause that would actually be a bonus in my case.

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

It doesn't feel hugely different; both are really soft and stretchy. But the Kinetic (non-alpine) will be a little more breathable.

@mirco5546 Жыл бұрын

@@trekitt awesome, I'm between the non-alpine Kinetic 2.0 and the Arc'teryx Gamma SL. Gotta do some more research! Thank you

@MarkPharaoh 3 жыл бұрын

Any idea why Rab has completely stopped selling their vapor rise line? Love my alpine and wanted to get their lighter stuff for spring

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, they haven't, it's available right here...www.trekitt.co.uk/facetresults.aspx?Term=rab%20mens%20vr

@MarkPharaoh 3 жыл бұрын

@@trekitt unfortunately I’m in the US so I usually buy direct from Rab and they seem to have almost zero VR items in the past couple of months

@waynewong9359 Жыл бұрын

Any experience with the patagonia upstride? im debating between the kinetic alpine and upstride

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

Afraid not, sorry.

@mikek9188 2 жыл бұрын

I can not decide between the Kinetic Alpine 2.0 or Muztag GORE-TEX Pro Jacket. I like the orange accents on the Muztag. Like if I was to get 2 of them, would the Kinetic Alpine 2.0 and Muztag set? So I can use Kinetic Alpine 2 for when I am hiking more and the Muztag for more severe tasks

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

As you've mentioned, the Muztag is definitely the one to pick for severe weather for prolonged periods of time. The Kinetic behaves more like a softshell and is best used in changeable, less severe conditions. As an all-rounder, the Muztag is the one I'd pick for absolute waterproof protection., but if you can afford both, they'll both be extremely useful in their own right. Harry

@mikek9188 2 жыл бұрын

@@trekitt What about the Meridian and Muztag. Decided to wait for more colors to come out for the Kinetic. How does the Muztag compare with the Arc'teryx Beta AR? Some friends of mine have last year bata ar and said I should go with that as they think the materials are better than the Muztag. In terms of materials which jacket would you say is built better and will last longer?

@mikek9188 2 жыл бұрын

Is the meridian and muztag noisy material when in use or is it a quieter one?

@Barkingtoad1 Жыл бұрын

Bit of a curve ball question here , thinking of this jacket & the trousers for walking the dog in our inclement weather but also for playing golf . My thoughts are that this would be a better option than golf waterproofs . Dog walking 1hr Golf 3hr , what are your thoughts

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

I can't comment on the quality of gold attire but these will definitely work for it, as well as dog walking.

@Barkingtoad1 Жыл бұрын

Just purchased the ladakh for autum/winter , would this be a good spring/summer walking jacket

@stuartl7459 3 жыл бұрын

Stuck between this or the Mountain Equipment Orbital any major differences in fit?

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Stuart. I've not used the M.E Orbital, I've only tried it on in the Service Centre, and my immediate comments would be that the Rab is softer and stretchier than the Orbital; the M.E does feel a bit tougher. Fit wise they are very similar, with the Rab being ever so slightly longer in the body and arms. I hope that helps. Paul.

@stuartl7459 3 жыл бұрын

@@trekitt Thanks Paul just ordered the Orbital 👍

@danchampz5253 2 жыл бұрын

One question mine didn’t come with a travel pouch 👝? Thanks

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

Oops! Maybe ask Rab if they have a spare? Harry

@ishikawaryo Жыл бұрын

How waterproof is this compared to something like to something like a Patagonia Torrentshell 3L?

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

This is more of a softshell that will resist a lot of rain whereas the Torrentshell is a full on hardshell. Choose the latter for persistent heavy rain and the former for changeable conditions with greater breathability.

@whitey1991ify 3 жыл бұрын

Any reviews of the arcteryx gamma lt?

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Not yet, but we'll add it to the list! Thanks for watching. Paul.

@MarkPharaoh 3 жыл бұрын

Based on the numbers this seems exactly like Neoshell, pretty cool. Until TNF puts out better FL products with 75K breathability this seems like a great buy.

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, the Kinetic is a game changer in terms of comfort and performance, but please bear in mind that it's not designed for super tough gnarly mountaineering. Paul.

@sjm9401 2 жыл бұрын

Is it much quieter than a hardshell?

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely. Probably the same volume as a traditional softshell. Harry

@Dr.D00p 3 жыл бұрын

Currently struggling to decide between one of these or a Berghaus AThunder Mountain Gore Tex, both similar price.

@jontyarcheryedgar 3 жыл бұрын

I'd say go with the full hardshell if you don't already have one; from my experience, the Kinetic Alpine is brilliant and can pretty much do it all, but in the worst weather, I'd still want to be taking a dedicated hardshell, if only just for peace of mind rather than anything else. I have the original Kinetic trousers and would still talk proper shell trousers out, its just that the conditions have to be worse for my to change into them than if it I was wearing normal softshell trousers

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Martin, get both! The Kinetic is absolutely brilliant, but you will still need a super durable hardshell if you are going to do some tough gnarly mountaineering. Thanks for watching. Paul.

@danchampz5253 2 жыл бұрын

This is my favourite jacket of all time wearing it feels like I’m being hugged I love rab thanks for being much better then shitty nortface!!

@MarcP5267 2 жыл бұрын

Like me you need large tall sizes. I’m same size and weight as you.

@pete3816 2 жыл бұрын

Hydrophilic membrane? Shouldn’t it be a hydrophobic membrane?? Philic would attract water, not repel!

@benbutterworth7584 2 жыл бұрын

Nowhere near as waterproof as Rab imply. The soft shell material means the water holds on the fabric and it soon becomes saturated and stops breathing.

@steve_and_lolas_hikes 2 жыл бұрын

Really? I hate when so called waterproof jackets turn out to be rubbish....so annoying.