Inside Look: Rab Kinetic Alpine 2.0 Pants

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The Kinetic Alpine Pants have been used and loved by Trekitt for years - the New 2.0 features updated materials and an improved fit to make this classic even better. The Kinetic Alpine Pant is a very unique creature; it takes the softness, stretchiness and breathability of a softshell trouser, and the waterproof capabilities of an overtrouser to create a trouser halfway between the two. It's perfect for use in the same situations as you'd normally use softshell, but where the weather may be a little more changeable.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:35 - What are the Kinetic Alpine 2.0 Pants?
03:01 - What are they made of?
06:31 - What are their features?
09:43 - How do they fit?
11:54 - Where do they fit in the layering system?
12:41 - Summary
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@anoshya 3 жыл бұрын

Just ordered another pair of Alpine Kinetic for my wife with size 8 short.perfect for cycling..also very impressed with the Trekkit delivery time and notification

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the order and positive feedback, I'm sure she'll love them. Harry

@GogsDavies Жыл бұрын

Love all your "reviews". I ordered a pair of these a while ago based on this video, but only managed to wear them yesterday, and totally agree with the review. They were awesome. I wore them over my Montane Terra pants and felt a little too warm on the lowlands, but pretty spot on when up top. I might need to experiment a bit more on that. My only criticism is the leg zips need to be better so you can get them on easily over boots. That said I'd definitely get another pair.

@HJD1506 3 жыл бұрын

Great review as always. Ordered

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, enjoy. Harry

@07YNWA 3 жыл бұрын

Decent review and the trousers seem good but difficult to know what to trust when every item reviewed is the best piece of kit you’ve ever worn.

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, we differ to the usual KZfaq 'reviews' in the sense that we're a retailer and we simply wouldn't stock kit we don't love. We're genuinely enthusiastic about all products we shoot Inside Look videos for because they're products we'd actually buy. Narrowing it down will depend on what you're looking for in the trousers, the fit and your budget. Harry

@jonathanthompson6783 2 жыл бұрын

@@trekitt great answer to that knobhead haha

@07YNWA 2 жыл бұрын

@@trekitt completely appreciate that Harry and, as said, it’s a decent review. Appreciate you like the kit that you stock (hence the reason for stocking it) just would be helpful for me as a customer of yours to know some down sides. Very few bits of kit are perfect and to understand the pros AND the cons would be more helpful. Doesn’t mean I would buy the item but I would be able to make an objective and informed decision is all. Just my opinion though.

@tooyoungtobeold8756 2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanthompson6783 Are you a diplomat?

@kevinbungles 3 жыл бұрын

Great review… they are on my wish list

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, mine too!

@derryyoung3181 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@RMinkjunkie Жыл бұрын

Great review I went I store today and they are not described as a over trouser but obviously from your review you can wear them as a over trouser also can just wear them as normal trousers when it’s not to cold weather/seasons

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they're not reaaally overtrousers but they can work as such; especially if you're wearing them over leggings/shorts. Much more versatile than a traditional pair of overtrousers that you'd wear over big walking trousers.

@anoshya 3 жыл бұрын

Just ordered a pair for cycling in the city as most over trousers are cheap and wide at the bottom..I’m the same size as the guy in the KZfaq so,looking forward to receiving them..very wise to have 34 long as well!!

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

They should work really well, especially due to their stretchiness. Enjoy! Harry

@ianrudd7442 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I use the Paramo Valez Adventure Light trousers if I am wearing trousers when it is raining/ anticipated to rain all day but they are quite warm so this could be an interesting alternative.

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like these could be ideal!

@AlanHH 3 жыл бұрын

Great review of a very practical pair of pants - on the shortlist for next winter. BTW, what boots are you wearing?

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Alan, they're the AKU Alterra's: www.trekitt.co.uk/footwear/boots/aku-mens-alterra-gtx-brown-ochre__33620

@johnbarleycornmustdie 3 жыл бұрын

What colour was Paul wearing in this video? They looked navy but your listings say nightfall (a sort of royal blue) and beluga (looks black to me). Thanks.

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, I was wearing the Beluga colour in the video. Thanks for watching. Paul.

@Barkingtoad1 Жыл бұрын

Purchased 2 pairs, 1 as daily pants & larger pair as winter pants over leggings

@trillbrown3686 3 жыл бұрын

Does the offset belt buckle sit on your hip bone when wearing a pack. I am a bit skinny and find that buckles and zips are especially annoying on my hips.

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

The offset buckle doesn't sit directly on your hips and wasn't noticeable with a pack on. Thanks for watching. Paul.

@zoekeeping8542 2 жыл бұрын

do the trousers make noise when walking? like when they brush past eachother and just general noise?

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

They sound just like a regular pair of softshell trousers. Not as noisy as a 'traditional' waterproof trouser, but not absolutely dead silent either. Harry

@nasseralkmim4394 3 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about using it for skiing and maybe commuting by bike in the rain as well . What do you think? Also, do you have any plans on reviewing cumulus gear?

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

They should work pretty well for both skiing and commuting. Unfortunately Cumulus isn't a brand we stock, so we aren't able to produce any Inside Look videos for them. Harry

@martincaddoo1822 3 жыл бұрын

Most sizes out of stock inc mine. Are you getting any more stock ? If not what other softshell waterproof trousers are their ? (Not over trousers). Thanks. Martin

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Martin, it may be worth looking at the regular Kinetic 2.0 trousers instead - they're very similar but we have a full range of sizes. I'll pop a link below. Harry www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/trousers-shorts/rab-mens-kinetic-20-pant-beluga__41883

@martincaddoo1822 3 жыл бұрын

@@trekitt They look good but need a long leg and you only have regular ?

@richardhale2449 3 жыл бұрын

They look good but I wish trousers would come in x-short length for those people who have really short legs.

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

I have the opposite issues! I suspect it's a matter of economics and having to meet production minimums. Thanks for watching. Pual.

@mackue8913 Жыл бұрын

Hey I’m a mailman in MN, I use my rain pants as a hardshell for winter and summer rain. Will the kinetic be good for it? Thanks love watching ALL your videos!!!!

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

They should be ideal.

@bminderh73 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered these pants (36 long) a couple of months back from you guys, and to be honest: I love the way the pants feel (even next to the skin), but even the long version is too short for me...I'm 6,1, so not excessively tall and I'm wearing mid high walking boots (Salomon X Ultra 3 MID GORE-TEX). The pants just barely reach over the top part of these boots, and when I sit down they creep up to nearly half way up my calves...

@fnordianslippers 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ben. Do yours have the integrated belt as shown in this video, or the cord adjustment as shown on Rab's web site? I'm trying to figure out if something has changed. UPDATE: Nevermind. I did not realise that there was an Alpine and a regular variant of these pants.

@Olan... 2 жыл бұрын

it depends on you leg length i am 5 foot 10 33 inch leg and a large fits purfect with the same sollys as you ....i only wear HH long johns underneath and love mine

@Barkingtoad1 Жыл бұрын

For walking i prefer not to wear trousers underneath, what in the Rab range would you think would the best waterproof pants for next to skin

@fancyaclean6452 Жыл бұрын

He stated that the inside isnspft so you don't need anything underneath

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

These are great next to skin!

@tooyoungtobeold8756 2 жыл бұрын

You said you can wear these stand alone. How low can the temperatures be?

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

It's hard to give an accurate answer as it depends how fast you're moving, how much muscle you've got on your legs, altitude, etc. They're not insulated at all, so in sub-zero temperatures when not moving particularly quickly, you may need another layer.

@akivanomad2167 3 жыл бұрын

Are they cold on the skin, like Gore-Tex overtrousers? Would you need to wear Merino leggings (long-johns) underneath? My frame of reference is: 1. Mountain Equipment Ibex, 2. Montane Terra Stretch, 3. Rab Sawtooth, 4. Mountain Equipment Gore-Tex Quarrel Waterproofs.

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

They're far more similar to a pair of Ibex's than a full-on hardshell. You could wear them next to skin without that weird dishcloth texture that some overtrousers have. Harry

@akivanomad2167 3 жыл бұрын

@@trekitt Okay, Cheers. 👍

@iainp999 8 ай бұрын

I bought a pair of these and on first wear they got absolutely soaked through!!! I'm sure they are great (by all accounts) but I guess the pair I bought must need re-waterproofed. Does anyone know how to do that? Would it be a case of a spray or wash-in solution? Thanks.

@trekitt 8 ай бұрын

It's unusual for them to soak completely through, especially on first use. How long were you out in the elements for? rab.equipment/uk/how-to-wash-your-waterproof-jacket-at-home The above guide is direct from Rab, it's aimed at Jackets, but the principle will be the same for your trousers too.

@peterw3474 Жыл бұрын

Popped in a couple of weeks ago to get a pair of Kangris and your awesome colleague let me try a pair of Alpine 2.0 as a base layer (I turned up I jeans...) Was really surprised by how much I liked them! How do you think they compare to something like Keb Actives? Maybe the Rabs are more waterproof but less durable and not quite so good in warmer months? I think I really want a pair damnit.

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

Keb's are tougher and more breathable as there's no membrane, but not waterproof and require regular waxing. The Kinetics really shine in varied weather conditions; think autumn/winter when it's raining one moment and dry the next. I personally wouldn't wear them in spring/summer.

@stephenjones6902 Жыл бұрын

Can you wear these trousers without under trouser's for hiking.

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

Yes, they feel almost identical to normal softshell trousers and can be worn next to skin.

@wouterrombouts9347 Жыл бұрын

Looking for trousers to walk the West Highland Way early april and I just can't decide.. these look amazing and being waterproof makes it interesting so i don't have to buy waterproofs separately. What would be your choice for trousers to walk the WHW, or any long hike in Scotland? Next piece I need to decide is a midlayer. I was looking at something like the Montane Protium jacket or the Rab Capacitor. Any suggestions on that? Thanks en keep making these brilliant video's. Love them

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

These would work, but personally I'd be in 'normal' softshell trousers around that time of year and just stick a pair of lightweight waterproofs in my bag in case. Midlayer wise, what are you using as your outer layer? Softshell?

@wouterrombouts9347 Жыл бұрын

@@trekitt I use a hagloffs lim jackets. Super lightweight but warm enough when I'm active and with 2 layers underneath. Used it in the Ardennes at -5. The fleece i was wearing is to warm for me when temp goes around 10degrees. I also have an enlightened equipment torrid jacket but i keep that for the evenings or for when it gets really cold

@wouterrombouts9347 Жыл бұрын

@@trekitt i was also looking at the montane terra pants, classic alrounder and combine that with waterproofs. But 1 pair of trousers that does it all sounds appealing to me. Not sure yet.

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

@@wouterrombouts9347 The Protium should do the job well as a midlayer. You may be a little toasty with a LIM jacket over the top in April, but worst comes to worst you can just remove a layer. The Terras are also a good trouser, albeit a little thinner and looser fitting.

@wouterrombouts9347 Жыл бұрын

Eventually I chose the ME Ibex pro pants... What a journey that was...

@xuezhiwang4453 7 ай бұрын

Could you please describe the main difference between Kinetic 2.0 pants vs. the Alpine version? Thank you very much.

@trekitt 7 ай бұрын

The Kinetic 2.0 pants lose the reinforced nylon panels, so they have a softer handle and are not quite as durable, but do offer more freedom of movement, they are a lighter duty pant compared to the Alpine version.

@blahblah5750 3 жыл бұрын

What’s the difference between this review and Men's Kinetic 2.0 Waterproof Pant?

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Stronger fabric reinforced areas and an improved waist fastener.

@paulgiddens2651 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, Will you be getting the Kinetic Alpine in 36 long leg anytime soon. Cheers, Paul.

@paulgiddens2651 3 жыл бұрын

Blue or Black

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, the leg length options are only available in the black colour. As soon as Rab have more stock, so will we! Please use the "NOTIFY" function on our website to be notified as soon as that stock arrives! Thanks for watching. Paul.

@Barkingtoad1 Жыл бұрын

Do the 34 waist have stretch in the waist band ? I’m between 34 & 36 so do i stretch out or pull in 😂

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

They do a little, but I think it's probably safer to buy the larger size and pull in.

@Montananmooselover 9 ай бұрын

Do these make some noise when they are rubbed together?

@trekitt 8 ай бұрын

They will rustle and make some noise, but in practice these are quieter than your traditional hard-shell over trousers

@Montananmooselover 8 ай бұрын

@@trekitt wonderful u might buy some for hunting

@xxwookey Ай бұрын

It's 3 years later - are they still waterproof? I've found plenty of waterproof trousers are great when new but after a couple of years you get wet thighs. I don't mind spending money of decent gear but the obsession with lightweight does tend to lead to expensive kit that doesn't last very long, which just seems wasteful.

@trekitt Ай бұрын

There's still a number of pairs going strong with some of our customers. As ever there is a compromise between weight and durability. A big part in keeping kit going longer is also the proper care and maintenance of the kit.

@MarcP5267 2 жыл бұрын

IMO I think experienced winter cold weather hikers know what they are talking about when it comes to layering and products. With that being said I’m not a hiker but I’m a garbage man. I’ve been looking for light weight outer shells for this upcoming winter. Specifically for medium to heavy rain in the winter like around 2C for about a good 4 hours. Do you think that this Rab jacket / pants set is rugged and durable for a garbage man? I do get a clothing allowance so price doesn’t matter but it matters a little bit. I would like this jacket / pants to last at least a couple of years throwing garbage into the back of a trash truck.

@trekitt 2 жыл бұрын

They probably do, but we try to make these videos for all walks of life, from the experienced to the just starting out. In regards to your shell question, I would opt for a 'proper' hardshell such as Rab's Ladakh or Kangri. These are tougher, more weather-resistant and will put up with more abuse. Harry

@JoeZUGOOLA 3 жыл бұрын

I hope no one has an Inside look in my pants!😓

@trekitt 3 жыл бұрын

😂

@NatureBoy711 Жыл бұрын

no it's not 100 % waterproof ! it's a softshell pants .... lol

@trekitt Жыл бұрын

With a membrane underneath, making them waterproof 😉

@NatureBoy711 Жыл бұрын

@@trekitt well , you obviously didn't walk in a pouring rain but i did ! (over 6 miles) what it says on paper doesn't apply in reality. get a hardshell !