Seriously that is true. Ruby had been abusing that poor boy his entire life. Her ‘tough love’ was abusive controlling compulsion.

I felt that man. That’s a real human. If he has kids himself, he should be proud. I’m sure he’s an amazing father!

@@adoral.libertucci2647 those type of parents/people are the worst 😩🤮

Even in the recorded phone call to 911, the man's voice cracked, while telling the operator about the wounds the boy had.

-Come over and see ‘I Sent Amber Heard's Lawyers A Letter…’

He wasn´t just a standby abuser, he was an actual abuser. I have seen him laughing when his children were hurt. I have seen him verbally humiliate his kids, multiple times.

So sad and mental abuse changes the brain just like physical. I hope those poor, sweet kids get all the love and help they need. .

@@asbisiexactly, he probably would be in jail with them too if Ruby and Jodi hadn’t kicked him out.

They have refused him custody and 2 of the kids are under the care of Shari, the oldest sister, over Kevin. I think that speaks volumes and means, imo, Kevin's got some legal storm coming his way. As he should. The Frankes both need a reckoning for torturing these children . Evil evil evil in human form. Those parents are evil

He had some nerve accusing his daughter of burglary

Sometimes in Amerika, law like...just kidding...

I would go that far but I do agree that a father’s responsibility is to protect his children and this guy failed miserably! Maybe he was so screwed up by his experience dealing with his marital problems that his attention was focused on his own emotional needs!

He knew 😮

They had been separated for a long time and she did not allow him to see the kids

Why haven't the cops or CPS been sued?

He did NOTHING which is all the MORE reason he should be in custody

Child abuse 😢 arrest the father 😮😮

They were separated and she did not allow him to see the kids

@@mikea5745 Surely he could have done something about that as the neglect was going on for months if not more

@@mikea5745 so he just said "Okay". That is NOT "a dad"!!!

Agreed, its a basic human need and has no right to be used as a punishment. Sick.

Well said.

Look, these kids were seriously abused. Going to bed without supper once or twice isn't abuse. Withholding food regularly is.

Withholding food creates disordered eating.

@@16BitDungeonThere is NO reason to withhold food from a child. What's your goal, increase the number of people with eating disorders? Don't do it. Ever.

Yeah Ruby and her husband abused those Kids before jodi....jodi Just made It even worse for the Kids. im tired of seeing Kevin lawyer saying hes a Great dad!

There is literally no evidence of abuse before Jodi came into the picture. None whatsoever.

@@sirgerbilmacintosh9101it depends on your definition of abuse. There is video evidence of them using severe punishments on their kids: denying food, threatening to cut up toys, taking away their bed and many more examples of emotional abuse.

Agreed. Even if Ruby was brainwashed- her job was to keep those kids safe.

@@sirgerbilmacintosh9101 I think you could classify their parenting before Jodi as mental/emotional abuse but I feel like it’s be hard to classify as abuse in court.

The father was a passenger too , I guess ! 😢

Beta male

Adult sister Shari has her own lawyer and is taking care of the two teenage siblings.

@@skkeech That's good! He shouldn't have any of those kids and needs to be charged as an accessory. No way he didn't know they were abused! He's complicit.

They’re in DHS custody, so they probably have a guardian ad litem at the very least watching for their interests.

@@Roobearlilibee I have a feeling that Ellie and Jared have the two younger kids now and they aren't saying that publicly for privacy. Ellie and Jared have been so good to get totally offline and they live in St. George.

Glad they ain't black

I KNOW. it literally made my heart hurt, that this “mom” Ruby franke thought she was at ALL doing proper parenting, but the state this son of hers was found it, made this man cry.

It might not have been the wounds themselves, it was probably the realization that the kid had been held captive by a neighbor they knew was off

Yes!! Omg 😢 that got me.

and they put pepper on the wounds

@@AbsurdExistentialistit might have been the rope lacerations from the kid getting tied up with rope. They’re not life threatening injuries but they look pretty gnarly.

The adults also like to party like there's no tomorrow. After they medicate the kids to sleep.

@@LittleOrla Do you mean all of the family or just Ruby and her husband? How do you know this? Thanks..

@@jacqui9176all of them are hard core narcissists! That’s why they couldn’t see Ruby’s behavior until it started affecting their channels.

Glad they aren't black Thanks Lord for your salvation 🤟

Yeah, the title is misleading. She always had her abuse and fucked ideals out there for everyone to see. She was so proud of her abusive parenting that she felt the need to teach it to others. People who have been following this wacko for years aren't suprised by the state of those kids. I'm just happy none of them are dead.

Because it’s far more effective to be a Wolf in sheep’s clothing. That’s the oldest trick in the book. …Appear to be a philanthropist humanitarian with the perfect life , kissing babies and shaking hands …. Hmm sounds familiar . There’s two types of evil. There’s evil that TELLS you they’re evil, and there’s evil that pretends to be your guardian angels…

It's usually to promote a persona

Job security too. Jodi “creates” problems so she can fix them.

They aren't Christian. Glad they aren't black.. Thanks Lord for your salvation

@SA-gs2ib they aren't Christians and psychotic people recognize each other drawn to each other like magnets

Right!?

Not quite but close. He was just a simp and knew his dumb wife was making money and having some sort of fame and attention. He was a whipped man

Yes, I think you have to be mentally unwell if you follow a person who tells you to abuse your kids and you just go with it.

Don't be so sure. That's why it's called manipulation.

@@jcymngo I’m sure

Well said … all three adults need to be held responsible, including the Mormon Church referring Jodi for decades ….

​@jcymngo Did the judge even say yet that it was manipulation? NO. Isn't she a grown independent adult? Would she have been manipulated to jump from a bridge? Just because someone try to manipulate you does not mean it works. And successful manipulation when it comes to grown independent adult is a joke. She chose to get along. I was manipulated to hurt my children for years.... Yeah sure.

No, she dosen't believe that. Its just a way for her to groom her child not to stand up for herself and justify the abuse

@@heezyforsheezi think the commenter is saying the girl truly believes she is evil.

@@AlexisTwoLastNames That was my impression. I think @beccaard4642 was saying Ruby's youngest daughter refused treatment for hours because of the abuse. This child actually believed all the horrible things Ruby told her. This child (in her mind) felt she didn't deserve treatment due to her being an evil little girl. IMO this mental/verbal child abuse she was subjected to was beyond cruel.

@@heezyforsheezhow do you know ? When someone sustains, narcissistic abuse and physical and mental abuse, you start believing the things people tell you. Im sure that little girl does believe what her mom said. 😢

Anyone have a video or link to article about what the commenter is saying with the daughter refusing treatment? Not challenging the commenter, just want to see it for myself

He was! I’ve watched their older videos. Shocking & evil!

Thank God for the son escaping!

Should we also thank ‘God’ for allowing all this horrible stuff to take place and for the kids to be born unto her ? After all he is omnipotent, right ? Pick and choose what to thank him for.

Exactly! Her sister, Bonnie, is already back to vlogging, continuing to exploit her kids for content on KZfaq. The whole family are sick people.

Extremely sick

Actually before KZfaq takes any responsibility the parents (including their father) should be held responsible for exploiting the kids but yeah- KZfaq should have closed the channel down a long time ago or de monetized it so they were not making mega bucks.

KZfaq don't care 😢 they're making money by allowing these things on their platform

Agreed

Boom💥

Right?! Their "haters" were people more concerned for the children's wellbeing than they were.

Narcissist always play the victim.

I was just thinking that. They opened their home life up to the public and the public had concerns for the children. They reported those concerns to the proper authorities.

I grew up here, like this ! CPS & LEOs cant keep up with ALL of UT child abuse. FLD$-LD$-RLD$ bite off more than they can handle. Its the foundation of the cults

literally… ruby was like this before even mentioning jody

Literally was going to comment something similar… there is nothing double about her life at all. It’s been all over KZfaq for years. Reports have been made before. There’s nothing double about it at all.

We..the viewers are stupid…how didn’t anyone pick up on this?

Exactly!!

Exmormons from UTAH say this type of abuse isn't an isolated event, it's prevalent.

Because she had everyone under her thumb, and would probably cause a scene if he tried to intervene, or more like a looong lecture

@@Godsforever1Kevin we found you!!!

Arrest him

@@Godsforever1Being afraid of a "scene" is never an excuse for child abuse. Any reasonably healthy parent wouldn't care about anything but their child's well being. Kevin is criminally negligent and should go to jail.

@@Godsforever1Letting your children be abuse because you don’t want a “long lecture” from your wife is a wild excuse lmao. Imagine using that in court.

I am so incredibly sorry. Complex PTSD is so hard to live w. This may sound lame but Journaling can work wonders, speaking from experience. I hope you can feel free now that she's gone, bc you are.

I also hope he will never believe that it's his fault his family is breaking apart, but knows that he is a hero

I hope RF and EF are receiving real mental health help. All of the kids will deal with this the rest of their lives to one degree or another. With abuse this bad?I fear for their long term well being and what may manifest in the future.

Jolie doesn't have any of her own kids 😮

And what was Kevin doing during that year??? I haven’t seen or read much about his life while he conformed to Jodi’s “therapeutic direction” and remained out of touch with his wife and children for a year…

When Kevin left, someone close to the family said that their oldest son went with him, which makes it sadder that he didn’t fight harder to get legal custody of all of his children. It was said during that time was that Kevin’s main goal was to get back with Ruby.

He is no angel. I don't think he treated the kids well when he lived there.@@gracefoster7587

Depraved Indifference.

God is doing a great job with the kids , he approved the ❤abuse

@@barelylegalbriefs “Goodness” God…whatever troll, I’m not religious, it’s a turn of phrase….don’t be a 🍆 and take peoples kindness out of context….grow up

​@@barelylegalbriefsGod does not approve.

@@barelylegalbriefsno he did not.

Thankfully he was the one to call the police and set them all free to start their healing. That will help him get over this.

It's also a freak!

Righttt, Jessie’s a freak not the hyper religious abusive straight woman

Rightt it’s not the hyper religious straight abusers that are freak. It’s the super chill and intelligent victim who just happens to use they/them.

@@siwantathapa180she’s a hyper religious too , from a cult to another .

@@salvolondonbeing gay isn’t a religion

Her voice was lovely, I hope she keeps going with her music

Music? She should sell pictures of her feeet!@@djduncanjames

He actually said, “He’s been t… detained.” I have wondered if what was on the tip of his tongue “tied up” or “tortured”. But I think he chose “detained” because the child was within earshot. He was trying to not upset the boy - but I think also he was being mindful that this would finally be a court case. He was choosing neutral and less emotive words so that nobody could say he was “leading” or influencing any testimony by the lad. The police these days usually have people specifically trained to interview children.

​​@@eh1702 eh impossible to tell. If I'm stressed I'll use the wrong sounds. He was gonna say graped, abused, tortured, hurt. It doesn't matter what you say. He was just trying to keep it in. Strong man. Probably seeing red. And I've not really seen cases where someone's anonymous unrelated testimony gets their "rage" used against them. There's plenty of cases like this you can see someone acting crazy and their testimony is still accepted.

@@greuju When children are abused, some abusers will use any opportunity to say they were coached or influenced.

@@eh1702 have you looked into the average cases? I had to work in the legal department before as a data analyst. What you're saying only matters in fringe situations..in most cases the kid is protected without proper evidence, not the other way around. All I'm saying is the guy most likely was protecting the child from hearing anything, and not using emotional language, while trying to keep it altogether. No one's playing 4d chess in this situation trying to make sure the kids abusers can't win in court. 😂

@@greuju you’re naive as well as unobservant. The man says in his call that police have ALREADY been called several times over the years concerning children in the house across the street. He does not say he himself has, but it is obviously a familiar tooic to him.

Its a 100% both their faults. Just because one of them was already abusive does not absolve the other one one from their abusive behaviour. It's not 50% each or 60/40 or whatever. It's 100% for whatever they each did.

Kevin isn't either. I hope those kids aren't put with him. He went right along with and contributed to all the evil punishments. He's just as awful.

Agreed

@@iced.autumn just heard he tried to sue his daughter Shari for going into the house she was living in (the house he was not living in for 13 months), to retrieve clothes and other items for her sisters. He wanted to press charges for burglary but the police department would not file charges against her- so now he wants to sue the police department… he’s just as crazy as the rest of them.

@@jamieleeharrison Wow! I guess not very surprising though. I'd ask how a parent could do something like that, but these people are known monsters who have no shame :(

😢😢

Religion is evil ALL OF IT

I know right. INCREDIBLY brave boy. Amazing.

In that circumstance, any door would’ve been the right door. It’s not like this particular neighbor was outstanding. 99% of grown adults would’ve acted the same way.

@@jimlahey3919 these child abuse cases get me so upset because behind closed doors people could do evil things smh

He wasn't looking for help, his mum and hidebrandt had convinced him he was so evil that he was looking to hand himself into the authorities. Even though his sister was in the same house they had been kept separated for more than a month locked up in different rooms. It's absolutely devastating, I just hope and pray they are recovering well, Ruby franke wrote diary entries and on the day he escaped she foind he had got some pebbles from the garden and spelled out 'Jail' Theres doorcam footage of the young boy asking the neighbour for a favour and the favour is to be taken to the nearest police station. It's also come out that the little ones were so brainwashed into thinking they were evil that he was genuinely seeking the police to hand himself in 😢

@@jimlahey3919 Yes! and Thank the LORD, that this man WASN'T that other 1% !!!

I agree because I've seen an interview done with Ruby Franke's cousin detailing generational abuse and abuse she suffered that is similar to what the children went through.

I agree NO ONE COULD EVER make me do those Disgusting horrible things to my childen!!!!!

Jessi clearly still has many issues to work through.

Exactly.There is a reason there is a reason they didn't include "duct tape your kids" in their supposed "good parenting" advice. If their kids ever went so far as to call out more than just the oldest boy sleeping on a bean bag for months as a punishment (aka if the kids would have mentioned the duct tape on video) Franke would have had it edited out. Ruby 1000% knew what she was doing. Theres no way one goes to all that trouble to orchestrate their lives and looks to appear perfect, produce a "good parenting" brand and somehow not know you weren't being abusive.

I am sick of people abusing kids or even other adults in the name of religion.

Imagine a total stranger having a kinder heart than the child's own mother.

and he could not even say the word "abused" in front of the child. He had several attempts at finding a different word before he found one that might not frighten the child and you could tell how hard it was for him.

Same

Exzackly. We were making mistakes but--

Exactly. He had to hear what was going on, like the bean bag yr long punishment . He was supportive of Ruby’s sadistic parenting style then and probably still is.

Thank you, I’ve apologized to my son for listening to other telling me how to punish my child. I never have a problem saying I’m sorry I should’ve punished you a whole week for something so minimal. I didn’t want him spoiled being an only child. Now his daddy is a whole different story he’s not apologizing for chit. He said you deserved everything you got, you got away with too much in his eyes. We were raised totally different from totally different backgrounds, they were poor but they all went to Catholic school. We were well off but it was 8 of us and we all we to Catholic School and we all Graduated from College my sister had some many degrees it was ridiculous. RIP she only worked for herself because no one was telling her what to do..The father is just as guilty because he was in that house and saw what was going on and he should be in jail with his wife. He left those kids to rot in hell with her..

⁠@@sexylexiegood on you for reflection and introspection and being big enough to admit when you might be wrong and apologize . That quality is huge and will take you a long way

You're not a Mormon, I assume. Thats why.

Dont say 'you', the correct expression is "yous'es" or "yee"

​@@tomasotreasaigh111no its not.

@@anteandrovic Are you oppressing me?

Women get harsher punishments than men in chile abuse cases.

Exactly, even my parents are more helping and takes care of me and my siblings. Ruby Franke is nothing but a shameful woman to her children treating them like dirt, I also really hope that the kids are doing well away from their "mother".

there was a part in the 911 call that was edited out of this segment. the operator asked the man what injuries the boy had. he tearfully told her the boy had open wounds on his wrists and ankles from being "detained." and you could hear the boy's voice as he said, "it's my fault."

All of these adults should be held accountable. And for God's sake, don't let those kids go back to their father. He's just as guilty as Ruby & Jodi. I hope the two of those woman get some "welcoming" treatment while incarcerated.

👍💯💯💯

Aren't you being a little hypocritical? Everyone, and especially the friends, the family and people you KNOW are those who commit such horrible actions and crimes at the end of the day. Maybe stop being disgusted and closing your eyes and instead watching what happens in your own vicinity? THEN ... most of those atrocities can be prevented. When people do NOT LOOK AWAY! But yeah, I'll give you that. "THE OTHERS" is always an attractive (and lazy) stereotype. I wish you will never make that experience with any of those monsters directly and that you stay at the "disgusted" level of entertainment in your character development ...

That's not what the LDS faith teaches you to do, and just like there are bad Catholics and good Catholics out there same applies to LDS. These two bitches need to rot in jail.

Is that what they do??

@@TheDevile1 Well… they endorsed Jodi and recommended her well after earlier medical malpractice that got her license revoked.

​@TheDevile1 Yes, pretty much all polygamous cultures or religions do this.

@bojangles2492 Yeah, I went and looked it after I commented here. The whole religion seems pretty shady.

Weird how cps doesn’t show up when really needed but loves showing up usually when they aren’t needed

@@tyronechadington1655 So very true

Run by weirdo control freak mormons

Given that all this crap went down in Utah, there's an elephant in the room that obviously _should_ be seriously investigated. But since it happened in the USA where churches - particularly politically powerful churches - are sacrosanct, it's safe to bet that nobody will investigate the role of the Mormon church in covering up the abuse. (Like why that judge never signed the search warrant which the cops needed in order to talk to the kids.)

@@allanmason3201 yeah I was gonna say, this absolutely goes all the way to the top of the Mormon church. In this case, there are minimum DOZENS of people who are 100% complicit and deserve jail time, but wont even be investigated.

I had a stalker for 17 years. They did absolutely nothing and it was very serious. I thought I was going to die. Police don’t take everything seriously and some others go above and beyond. It’s sad and disheartening but that’s life with everything. Life is so unfair.

@@michelebosserman2680they made it clear that they use they/them pronouns ??

@@lex5768FUCK DEM PRONOUNS

Pronouns just announce psychological issues & the need for help. And they make no literal sense. No one should cater to these demands. It’s simply the confused person trying to gain control over something in their world.

^^Kinda weird that you’d not call someone they/them. I don’t understand why you think that. Do you think she was spoiled? Clearly not… so why not? Enlighten me

I'm definitely not defending Jon G., but in that case he actually did fight for custody of his kids, but Kate had the backing of TLC and their lawyers, and Jon did not. The person with the best, and most expensive, legal team (and PR team) won custody. TLC backed Kate because she wanted to continue to do the show, while Jon did not.

@vbrown6445 That does not explain why Jon sat by as his son was institutionalized for years. Whether he allowed it or was ignorant of it, it was negligence on his part. It took Collin sneaking a letter out, after years, begging him to help him, for Jon to act. It should not have taken that.

Agreed!

Well that’d mean he’d actually have to parent and Heaven for bid. The Mormon church pushes for these women to have all these kids and it falls on the women’s shoulders primarily. He just wanted the clout.

the husband is a wimp for allowing these 2 nuts to kick him out and run the show.

Watching that made me absolutely sick. I quite honestly could never imagine saying this to my children it’s insane!

The once or twice I forgot to put my primary aged kids lunches in their backpacks, the school would provide lunch. Or other kids would share. I'm Australian. We don't have school lunch programs. Some schools have breakfast programs. What in the name of God did this school do? Were they not alarmed? Utah seems like some kinda crazy to me.

This is the comment I have been looking for. Hearing Chad tell that and hearing his mother and other adults laughing broke my heart and then to think a six year old is responsible for making their own lunch or they just go hungry is reprehensible. I know some teens who aren’t even that responsible.

​@@tara_ble1705mo

Sadly in most states she would not have gotten her children taken away for that, She may have had to undergo some classes for parenting and a visit once in a great while that would probably be scheduled. Especially since she has money and could get a good lawyer. My daughter is a social worker and they rarely take the kids.

Irony is that those kids literally didn’t had those things. Those “parents” were starving them, made Chad sleep on the floor for months and Jesse was sleeping outside on the snow. Now, what do these children have to go thru before CPS intervene?? A death???

Is that such a surprise in a state founded by absolute adult power over others?? the culture creates the attitude, and the attitude creates and re-enforces the culture.

It’s really awful how lax our child abuse laws are, I grew up always being told “well at least we don’t hit you like we could. it’s legal so long as you don’t leave a mark”. There’s also a reason so many conversion or “troubled” teen camps are here.

CPS literally seems to always get it wrong. You see cases where they put families who are trying to be good parents but struggling through hell and take their kids for years for just being 'at risk'. And then a family like this with money who is abusive they won't bother. CPS is honestly the biggest waste of government money that exists imo.

But the Ruby children were all emaciated so they were not receiving sufficient caloric intake

Although Ruby is responsible for her choices, I'm inclined to agree that the ideas were planted by Jodi.

I saw a few episodes and realised very quickly she was a complete narcissist and her children were being abused.

Ye so used to watch them too and I feel bad now bc I remember subscribing and liking videos but I stopped watching about 2 yrs ago bc it just felt a little repetitive with punishments and manipulative. Honestly I’m angry the Frankie had the guts to continuously treat her kids like that and manipulate their situation on the internet for views and to reach an audience she has no right to give/share advice with

I remember every summer being so excited for their back to school videos and I stoped watching she started getting weird

First of all I bet all those people that followed her feel like complete assholes I'm left wondering out of all of those viewers and subscribers of hers no one thought to turn her in or call the authorities

exactly! I find people who have only known abuse tend to recognize only harsher forms of abuse as such.

👏👏👏👏

When did they start seeing Jodi as a therapist?

@@tessa2568well after they started the since-removed KZfaq channel. And there were many concerning incidents seen on the videos from before JH entered the picture.

I was thinking this the whole time! I feel like they fucked up this report so bad. They had victims of Jodi’s who were prepared to give interviews so I feel like they completely shifted the narrative to try to end on a heartwarming note about Jodi’s victim. Pretty gross when you think about the fact that it made Ruby look almost completely innocent and manipulated, meanwhile there are children who are victims who have tried to get out of their mom’a grip for years. Horrible horrible reporting

You've just answered your own comment. Utah was founded BASED and is run on absolute adult authority over others. Surprised??

Bet ya hes a freemason

I completely agree with you!

In Utah 😂 what a backfire 😢

Over and over the American judiciary proves that it knows nothing about domestic abuse and violence. Pulling some kids out of loving homes b/c parents are poor, leaving others in b/c abusers are wealthy and powerful.

"They, Them" LOL

Amen! Our God is a kind and merciful God!

The M0rm0n God is very different than yours. It took me years, decades, to unravel the abuse I suffered from their supposed God through his supposed prophets and leaders in the 'one true church on earth.'

@@SilentThundersnow I’m so sorry that happened to you x I’m from Ireland and I’m Catholic but my religion wasn’t forced down my neck, maybe that’s the difference. As kids we went to mass each Sunday but my parents brought me up to believe that I might hurt God sometimes but he forgives me. I don’t go to mass anymore but I do think Gods happy with me as long as I do my best to treat people right, to help someone when needed and to be kind. Again I’m really sorry that this happened to you ❤️

Right? It always seems to be in the mormon cult too. Like there are so many cases of this kind of thing.

@@suedoyle3007people tend to take the definition of “Christianity” out- which is to literally be “Christ-like.” If everyone truly aspired to live more like Christ, we would live in a beautiful world. Mormons even call themselves Christians too. I am very devout in my Christian, Biblical beliefs. This means living by the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament, not cherry picking the Old Testament to justify my own carnal mind judgement (which I still have to put my thoughts in check at time, I am human!). I’m so deeply sorry for anyone who has experienced religious abuse of any kind. It’s one of the worst things someone can perpetuate on another in my opinion as it frequently involves every form of abuse.

Actually from some things I have seen he actually participated. He (allegedly) took away Christmas Gifts, made one kid sleep in a bean bag- so he is just as complicit as Ruby.

@@katbar6066 I know and he even seemed he enjoyed it by the smile on his face. I have seen same hard fathers in my day but never one that smiled. as he did. And it took him till the rest of the world were shock and outraged before he realised yes Ruby and Jodie are off their rocker. I think the real Kevin will be shown and his Lawyer is out trying to mitigate the damage that will be done to him.

Harsh mother? You call abuse harsh? Are you KIDDING ME?

@@jessicamacallister9272 no I meant from when I watch in the beginning she was always harsh seemed a very cold mother. I stopped watching years ago. What these two children have had to ensure there are no words to describe her except vile. I have edited this to make it more clearer. Thank you for your input.

@@9eyeswideopen Harsh =/= abuse. Sorry, it doesn’t. There is no way I would ever come close to that word for abuse. That is just me though, might be because I have been abused that word doesn’t come close to describing it.

I remember a discussion where. Narcissist uses victims own body to harm them, an ultimate act of control. Many kinds of Ns, but that was Sadistic, Sociopath. No guilt, No Remorse, Enjoy pain of victim, Torture, Control, PLANNED AND REPETITIVE, often escalates to murder. I believe the channel idea was perfect Vehicle for this person to get endless N Supply.

It should be illegal to make money off your kids.

lol by that logic, why aren't the viewers in trouble for supporting her?

​@@dummkompfThey should be. Society needs to take a long, hard look at the people that subscribed to these two evil women, and see just how many followed their instructions and replicated the same abuse onto their own children.

TOTALLY! YT let this get out of control...and a lot of other family vloggers.

And they'll cancel fresh & fit trying to better society, promote values, business, and education, bring awareness to the youth of maintaining some positive morality, saving many males from checking out due to the harsh conditions they face.... but somehow all this influencers and OF and trauma like this is ok. 🤦 Thank God the "living a life of abundance" channel is still growing fast. 🙏 This toxic culture needs to change. Humanity must be restored. 🙏💊💪🙏

Worse!

EXACTLY!! once I realized this later on in high school, never again.

@@katiekane5247DEFINITELY worse. As public figures, their worst actions are supported by their fanatics.

This comment should be pinned

Agree don’t idolize those people, but would add that like all people, SOME of the people with that description are that way. Let’s not judge, stigmatize or assume based purely on the those labels or titles.

Mormons

I have my suspicions that that's why Shari took them. To turn them over to lawyers/cops as evidence. But her shitty father threw a hussy fit.

Yes this!!! There is probably so much on those journals and electronic journals.

I'm guessing they were not in the original search warrant, and getting them through a third party (even one of their kids) taints the chain of custody on any evidence found within them. Defense could easily say they were tampered with.

Yeah Randy is a grifter. So much PR control and trying to spin Kevin out to be the hero.

Happened to me many times

*Her

@@johnnycage3881 it was stated right in the report that they use "they/them"

@@johnnycage3881buddy this a news story about child abuse and all your comment history on this video is you getting all pissed about pronouns some rando uses

The pronouns made it a bit hard to follow. The presenter would say they or their and I was like, "Who the aunt and the Grandma or?" By the time it clicked I had missed things.

@@Kinikia95 yeah, it takes some getting used to for people in some situations. only takes a generation tho, i have three teens who have always acknowledged nonbinary ppl. even i slip up sometimes, but no reasonable person expects perfection, just an effort. ✌️

I really think he was brainwashed into thinking he was evil and needed to stay away for his own good. He probably thought Shari was evil too as she got out first and Ruby had time to make her the bad guy. That's why the younger girls didn't want her picking them up. They were brainwashed into thinking she was bad.

Even if he was brainwashed, you don’t have your child arrested for getting their things.

I guess they’re living humbling now you can say. Actions have consequences.

​@@snicksabeaShe is a she.

⁠@@johnnycage3881aww i hope you get the attention you desperately crave

She really did openly derive pleasure from abusing her children.😢

Ya, she talks about pain a lot. Wanting them to feel pain. Pain is a part of life but a mom shouldn’t use pain and suffering heavily to teach discipline. She was trying to break them. All these techniques are to break these children’s spirit. It’s abusive and controlling. She’s nuts.

Yeah, I really hope Jessi is feeling better 🙏❤

Was and still is a wack job..

I heard on another channel he tried to have his eldest daughter charged with theft. He claims she stole stuff from the house that he hadn't even lived in for 13 months. She was trying to get clothes and personal items for the kids. He then threatened to sue the Police Department for not charging her. What an absolute POS this less than human specimen is.