Inside Story - Cartoon shooting: Is Islam to blame?

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@esmat 9 жыл бұрын

A ridiculous religious idea deserves to be ridiculously criticized, if you tell me I can criticize any idea unless it's not religious is a stupid idea

@BradGatton 9 жыл бұрын

Nailed it.

@anthonycraddock6739 4 ай бұрын

All religions are just 6th century dogmatic indoctrination. These idiots want putting down at the local vets . Animals not humans!

@deadlykumar8709 9 жыл бұрын

Douglas Murray nailed it.

@adiw888 10 ай бұрын

he always does

@ruthbashford3176 Жыл бұрын

It's unbelievable that Islam wants to be able to tell us what we can say and do in our own country

@TheLouisXXI 9 жыл бұрын

It's free speech Islam, who cares if it upsets you!

@jackbotman 6 ай бұрын

They care apparently

@francisdayon 9 жыл бұрын

I see a lot of people saying don't blame Islam when it is only a handful that are extremist but is it really only a handful and not Islam mentality itself that is the problem? For example the Muslim guest on this show from Doha, "condemns" the killing but at the same time thinks that those killings were a natural reaction for insulting Islam. He is saying why do people have to draw it in the first place? Which questions the "drawing" instead of the killing. That to me paints the typical muslim mindset. China and Japan have been insulting each and are deeply divided on their WWII history to a point of calls for boycott and mass protest. Are Chinese men going around Japanese buildings and shooting them? To even think of it is so outrages to a point of it being taken as a joke but for muslims it is just a "natural reaction".

@bibaolaitan5189 2 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏...

@missanynomous2892 Жыл бұрын

Trust me they always blame cartoonist rather than Terrorist..

@izalazuizal Жыл бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@francisdayon Ай бұрын

@@Gvjhfxvbn for sure! The west has been terrorizing the world for the benefit of its elites. This doesn’t make my original comment wrong.

@celloswiss 9 жыл бұрын

Is Islam to blame? Of course not. It's all the fault of the Martians.

@ruthbashford3176 Жыл бұрын

Douglas Murray is brilliant

@vpsaline 9 жыл бұрын

Have we discovered the new Christopher Hitchens? I love this 'Douglas' guy.

@c.i.f0596 2 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking

@gpugh100 2 жыл бұрын

Murray rocked here.

@alonsomaldonado6781 9 жыл бұрын

the english guy is right...

@zendros 9 жыл бұрын

Disgraceful rendition by presenter! Murray was the only one talking clear sense here!

@benjaminpick 5 ай бұрын

isn't it amazing that the only person on this show who is talking about democracy and freedom of speech in a western country is the one classed as far right extremist?

@gregregregregregre 5 ай бұрын

you’ve got a good point

@moonsurfer7215 9 жыл бұрын

Douglas Murray is a genius.. Actually he always was..! (Y)

@marklangager8817 9 жыл бұрын

It was interesting to see how the questioner's focus -- on how this incident will play into the far-right narrative of Muslim values being incompatible with European values -- was essentially rejected by all three of his guests. Rather than focusing on this group or that group's feelings of incompatibility, let us take a moment to realize that "live and let live" Europe is not essentially to blame for "incompatibility". Europe needs to keep working harder to integrate into their societies the people who work so hard to build its economy. But vigilante religionism is illegal and not welcome in Europe; the people are (but they will be satirized like everybody else--welcome).

@junkybabes 2 жыл бұрын

You can't have people who believe in fairies and unicorns wanting everyone else to follow their bullshit... living with people who don't want to be governed by ancient fairy tales.

@jackbotman 6 ай бұрын

Shill: We live in a troubled world, sir. Rational People: Because people are allowed to harm others when they are offended.

@Deepakkumar-cn9vq 8 ай бұрын

This channel is the voice of extremism..

@martinappleby764 2 жыл бұрын

Well done Douglas

@rajivchaudhari 10 ай бұрын

Funny that they have a Muslim host who is asking these questions. Murray is absolutely right. Instead of addressing the issue he is going around in circles.

@summerlink 9 жыл бұрын

Douglas is a legend

@Delta4ms 9 жыл бұрын

"5:35" shots fired.

@MrSallum81 9 жыл бұрын

***** you mean a stupid & ignorant mind full of hate..just like yours!

@Liveforever898 2 жыл бұрын

I can't put into words how much I hate Islam and these unmentionables with every inch of my body

@jackbotman 6 ай бұрын

I see you :)

@drsajukraj 9 жыл бұрын

who else to blame but them?!!!

@deviceaccount5277 Жыл бұрын

Who told you that you can be a cartonist as a muslim?

@musahyussifyussif2133 8 ай бұрын

Douglas, thanks

@chrisbaxter3597 2 жыл бұрын

Like it how they mention the “ far right “ what did they have to do with it

@BradGatton 9 жыл бұрын

I realise the huge majority of Muslims in the world are kind, decent people, but there are still very serious problems that Muslims need to acknowledge and not merely sweep under the rug. - There is no objective method of correctly interpreting the Quran or Hadith. If you are really going to imply that because of their interpretation extremists do not represent Islam than it is equally fair to say that nobody does. As much as we'd hate to admit it, the Quran is able to be interpreted in a violent way which is a large problem on it's own. We need to be honest and admit that this is something that simply couldn't be done under the teachings of other religions like Buddhism or Jainism. Islam unfortunately, is more prone to violence than other religions and sadly in todays world that's seen as a controversial thing to say when it shouldn't be. [WE NEED TO STOP BLAMING MUSLIMS BUT AT THE SAME TIME STOP PRETENDING LIKE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAMIC SCRIPTURE!]

@BradGatton 9 жыл бұрын

KurdFromNL That makes sense in very specific situations. However shooting people because of a cartoon depiction of Muhammad is clearly not self defence.

@mauriceharting5877 9 ай бұрын

I would say that ANY Muslim who takes the Quran seriously and literally will by nature be violent and intolerant, just like false prophet Muhammad was as history tells us. Muhammad was a caravan thief, a murderer, a liar, a rapist and a child molester ... hardly someone we should imitate in our lives.

@bellacosy 6 ай бұрын

Douglas Murray is brilliant!!

@brucethomson9923 9 ай бұрын

Douglas owned the guys - well - the 2 guys. And the woman - who at least tried to be a little more moderate... Doha - free press - what tripe.

@whatisthat2283 9 жыл бұрын

I really don't understand when a person with a premise of Islamic doctrine is infallible... How can you even start a simple conversation?

@XiangC6 9 жыл бұрын

Simple rule: rights come along with responsibilities. Rights are not risk-free, yes you can draw whatever the fuck you like, but as this Douglas dude said "Muslims should not expect non-muslims to obey the islamic values", one should not expect that they can just offend and insult others, without enraging some to the point that they want to kill you. It's like I have the freedom of going up to a girl on the street and say "fuck you bitch", but I cannot expect that she is not going to give me a slap on my face.

@biosnap_artstudio 9 жыл бұрын

you are comparing the slap on a face with 12 people executed in cold blood...are you seriously doing this?. Freedom of speech IS PRECISELY to speak up your mind without expecting to be killed for it, you might be hated for your expression or in some countries even jailed for a while depending of the country, but not EXECUTED for it. Again THIS IS A WESTERN, DEMOCRATIC value, IF MUSLIMS don't like it or just don't get it, then must consider to go and live in Saudi Arabia, period!... If I for example dare to go to Iran, I will be forced to use veil as a woman, then, likewise Muslims must understand the Western values when living there...

@XiangC6 9 жыл бұрын

biosnap nope, you're having a jumping logic and some pre-assumptions here. Ever in my comment, have I justified the "slap over my face"? No, I never tried to justify that. I was only saying that there are consequences to consider, but not justifying the consequences. And more importantly, as much as I could then sue the woman for "physical assault" as she slapped me, those 3 killers will be brought to court and sued for whatever crime it's called. One can never be 100% sure that she/he will not be killed next morning, but laws exist to assure us that those who commit murder will pay their price too. And this is also the method how "the western democratic value" is enforced. After-all, it's not like these gunmen could kill and walkaway and never brought to justice (like how some countries with "western democratic values" could wage wars causing millions of death over either some empty accusations or set-up false-flags, and just get away with it) And please... don't act like "OMFG WE HAVE WESTERN DEMOCRATIC VALUES!!!! U LIVE UNDER MY ROOF, SO U GO BY MY RULES" and that sort of shit, people kill for many different, often ridiculous reasons here in the west as well. If you were sitting right in front of me with a gun and I said all these to your face, you'd probably have shot me already.

@7PropagandaPanda7 9 жыл бұрын

unbeliveable to compare such things, shame on you for trying to justify such an horrendous actwhilst defending the idelogy that caused it. according to your reasoning, people critisiing hitler back in 1940 had to expect death "deservingly". to state something like that speaks of enourmous stupidity and lack of thinking things through

@XiangC6 9 жыл бұрын

7PropagandaPanda7 Please refer to my first reply to biosnap and please point to me where in my sentence have I justified the "slap" or the killing? the killers of this incident are different from a government of a region with no freedom of speech, because these governments have the power to get away with what they do, while these killers will be arrested and brought to justice. The freedom of speech is fundamentally being protected by the law, that if someone kills me for what I say they will pay the price too. I think things through, while some of you seem to only think things through half-way.

@mercedescl 9 жыл бұрын

XiangC6 Lol. Your logic is totally stupid. Yeah, if someone was driving a Ferrari and carrying a suitcase full of cash in the middle of the night in bad parts of Detroit, and then he got robbed, he made a stupid choice. But that still doesn't cover the fact that he is a VICTIM. Should he do it? No. But that still doesn't mean the crime is not a crime or his action is responsible for the crime. It is the one who decided to rob him who should be totally responsible for the crime. It doesn't matter what Charlie published. They don't deserve to die. There is no respect if you expect to be respected with death threats.

@kujubenz 9 жыл бұрын

I was arrested and reprimanded just few hours ago whilst testing my freedom of speech on a police officer, i said "Good evening bitch!". Wtf?! im not even living in a muslim country and muslim laws. Before i was released, the officer told me "Luckily, you were stopped by me, if it were some other officer they wouldve been offended and gave you a beating, learn some respect son".

@don21199 8 жыл бұрын

வீர வன்னியர் any time lad

@izalazuizal Жыл бұрын

Wow! You're alive 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 what an analogy

@hejm8421 7 ай бұрын

But you're still alive yeah?

@deniska0 6 ай бұрын

Douglas is absolutely right. The rhetoric of this ‘journalist’ was diverting from the cause of the problem, trying somehow turn it to reaction from ‘far-right’. Worrying how French, that he called ‘far right’ would react to these murders. Bringing Muslim cartoonist who posing his stupid questions undermining European values of free speech. ‘Oh why would anyone want to draw Mohammad bla bla bla’. The question is not why, the question is that in free society people are entitled to it. There should be really short talk to people like that, if you don’t like there is the door. It’s astonishing that no one from so called ‘religion of peace’ condemns these attacks, no protests, no support of the victims. I mean they should be really defend the idea that their religion is compatible with western values if they believe it is. But they do not. It gets to a point where the West have to separate fully church and the state, removing any privileges for any religions that still exist in their countries in order to get Islam loose these privileges as well. This is the only Europe can get rid of Islam.

@bryanbradley6871 Жыл бұрын

Not really, the only person to blame is the shooter...

@djamaluddin 9 жыл бұрын

Who is this Murray? He has the temperament of a typical extremist or fascist but clouded in a good education... The sight of an arab presenter closed his ears spouting out a rant. I wouldn't like to debate Murray, he would go fifth gear without one saying a word.

@jdlaw001 9 жыл бұрын

yeah he's a temperamental douche, but I guess a combative guest is good for ratings.

@djamaluddin 9 жыл бұрын

***** you what mate? You're sounding like your hero... Did you not understand my comment? Who's acting like a victim?

@myyou1 9 жыл бұрын

***** Selective Libertarian. He avoided host's direct question about growing negative perception about Muslims in Europe -- excusing himself with "how dare you ask such question on the eve of a massacre" rant. But on his next opportunity to speak (forgetfull of his previous excuse) he threw in some inflammatory words about rampant Anti-Semetism in the ME while dismissing growing Islamophobia in Europe and in the Middle East (Israel).

@djamaluddin 9 жыл бұрын

***** no he's not an extremist or fascist but his temperament is of that type... Again your very much like Murray misunderstanding probably looking too deep into my comments and being drawn into all Muslims are acting victimised hype.

@jdlaw001 9 жыл бұрын

Plus check out Murray's negative body language (arms crossed and sour demeanor) prior to interview. He already held pre-conceived notions from the outset. He came across as a brat to me.

@peteyd1984 2 ай бұрын

Yes, Islam is to blame.

@adriangeh6414 Ай бұрын

I've never heard this many excuses made on behalf of violent islamic terrorists...

@AuditorInvestor 5 ай бұрын

Haha Murray put that Jazeera interviewer in place - doubt he was invited again - Islamists can't handle him.

@junkybabes 2 жыл бұрын

Go on Douglas

@navelpicker 2 жыл бұрын

30 years ago, this programme would have been come across as a joke.

@johnkumeu811 6 ай бұрын

No one defended the anti Jew cartoons

@manofculture584 5 ай бұрын

Who got killed after the drawings...whereas if you offend Islam your life is at risk

@remogatron1010 Ай бұрын

Douglas Murray won this hands down!

@gracemeguide1 3 ай бұрын

Yes of course Islam is to blame

@GeorgePoulakis-kf8os Ай бұрын

She doesn't know what fascism is, and I don't know how to spell it.

@muhammedjamsheed750 7 ай бұрын

Dougles murray tears aljazeera apart

@znyaberi 9 жыл бұрын

This is not a debate that can be won with words but rather superiority of our weapons and tactics to devide and concur. Everybody can condemn and give all this strong words but they don't change nothing. Actions speak louder than words.

@yawbamoah2217 7 ай бұрын

Facts

@gregregregregregre 5 ай бұрын

“all extremists” “all extremists” good strategy to hide the problem, that “cartoonist” was a real partisan

@RonnieN1995 9 жыл бұрын

An opinion can be offending, but that does not mean one should apply self censorship. I would never go as far with my freedom of speech as Charlie Hebdo did, because I think you're offending people without reason, but if people want to offend, go ahead. I for one am sometimes offend because Muslim friends of mine say I will go to hell because I don't believe in Islam, but should I kill them? No, of course not. I think you need to have the right to do whatever you want but you must never use violence.

@leegrant7333 5 ай бұрын

as he is pointing fingers....

@zuraidahdeydak8884 9 жыл бұрын

ALLAHHUMMASOLLIALASAIDINAMUHAMMAD

@like7oranges 9 жыл бұрын

that murray guy, went from chill to *CHILL* in a split second. why do interviews if you're not even going to answer the questions, mate.

@samip3124 6 ай бұрын

As far as i know being cartoonists is haram in Islam how he's doing then😂

@kartikeya24jha 9 жыл бұрын

Islam is not to blame but the the way fringe is becoming the new mainstream in Islam is very disturbing

@forcekins4372 9 жыл бұрын

well done pagans only religion that seems not to be pissing people off.

@ohhellno1557 9 жыл бұрын

i don't condone what happened but to insult a race, religion or ethnic group is not freedom of speech but hate speech.

@raselrejy3098 9 жыл бұрын

i agree.. ignorance and being disrespectfull is not freedom of speech.. # martin luther king, ghandi, thats an example of what freedom of speech, dude. not provoking, by being ignorant or else this world wouid be full of hate, wer wars will kick off, if everyone started doing it. ok.

@TurboDally 9 жыл бұрын

"i don't condone what happened but to insult a race, religion or ethnic group is not freedom of speech but hate speech." Saying "yo mama is so so fat" is not in ANY way on the same level as "you should be killed". Religions deserve all the insult and criticism that comes to them. Why? For the same reason other ideologies do.

@TurboDally 9 жыл бұрын

Rasel Rejy "...martin luther king, ghandi, thats an example of what freedom of speech, dude. not provoking..." Many found their speeches provoking and offensive. In fact, many white supremacists felt that the speeches of MLK needed to be silenced because they found it offensive, the very same justification that the shooters of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists had. In fact, it's a pretty similar justification that even a lot of PC liberals give too- those cartoonists were just too insulting! "...by being ignorant or else this world wouid be full of hate, wer wars will kick off, if everyone started doing it." I think the hate and ignorance has a lot to do with religion and what it preaches.

@marksip01234 6 ай бұрын

I am still offended by the idea of a cartoon (not seen it but hey - the very idea !!)that was intended to look like Mo - but actually was just a cartoon , so perhaps i should not be . Talk about sensitive perhaps they are insecure because they realise it is all BS

@jeeperscreepers9083 11 ай бұрын

khhaaaaggghrrr-alid please

@cameronadair5422 2 ай бұрын

If you are offended by a CARTOON, the problem is YOU.

@peterbassey9668 5 ай бұрын

A cartoonist who is against using ethnic profiles of people!?! By the beard of my sainted Aunt, am I even hearing him well, or what?!?

@raselrejy3098 9 жыл бұрын

orlando what you just wrote is an example of a no good ignorant little boy. you have to respect other religeons and prophets, i wouidnt say anything bad about jesus regarding your comment cos he is a prophet or son of god to many and must be respected highly. respect love and unity will bring humanity toghther, ok. #peace

@100001091057100001 9 жыл бұрын

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@manjusati5602 2 жыл бұрын

@trumanblack2 2 жыл бұрын

L jazeera

@Sohanjs 2 ай бұрын

I love Douglas Murray! He is too good! "I'm giving you my answer why don't you listen to it"

@dunholm1 9 жыл бұрын

So I watched a video tonight of Dire Straights and I thought, where is the musim equivalent. There isn't one. I've watched other vids of the Eagles, Stones, and so on, and wondered where is the muslim equivalent. There isn't one. I've thought of Archimedes, Fleming, Einstein and others, and wondered, where is the muslim equivalent. There isn't one. I've thought of Turner, and others of intellect and artistry and I've thought, where are the muslims. Nowhere. They have contributed nothing to human advancement for more than centuries. They are stuck in a time warp, and their only response is violence. We have a simple choice - either accept that which is in our midst, or destroy it before it destroys us.

@Camille_Anderson 2 ай бұрын

💯👏👏👏👏 Exactly! Nothing.

@capespring 9 жыл бұрын

everyone is to blame

@tommysteel2844 9 жыл бұрын

Way to go Douglas avoid the question.. Well at least we can see the radical from the other side too..

@Rogue_Console 9 жыл бұрын

***** you're clearly hurt lol

@Rogue_Console 9 жыл бұрын

***** you believe everything the government said about 9/11 is true? bwahahahahahaha!

@raktruth7691 9 жыл бұрын

Insult and freedom of speech are two different things. We have to define where freedom of speech ends.simple thing.where are social and moral value ?

@MrSilver222 9 жыл бұрын

If I were to draw caricatures about holocaust, joke and mock survivors, aren't i'm gonna get some sort of punishment? Maybe even sentenced to jail?

@izalazuizal Жыл бұрын

Likely but surely you won't be EXECUTED, does that how your brain really work? Leave religion, it poisons you.

@IslamicMuhammadIsPedophile 7 ай бұрын

False comparison. Youre trying so hard to justify killing of this Abdul just because hes religious feelings are hurt. Muhammad is a person, holocaust is a human tragedy. You can mock or criticize religion and its founders specially Muhammad was an evil person. You cant make fun of holocaust because its a tragedy where a certain group was slaughtered.

@Camille_Anderson 2 ай бұрын

Big difference! The victims of the holocaust were real, living people, millions of them brutalised, tortured & killed. Mohammed is just a fictional character, he wasn't murdered!! One stupid story about a "prophet" doesn't equate to a Holocaust and the comparison is just grotesque..

@laura835 9 жыл бұрын

Douglas Murray should not have come to the interview if he does not want to give honest answers.

@francisdayon 9 жыл бұрын

This is the first time I watched an Al Jazeera show, I have to admit that no matter what accusations the guest from London made the fact that the carried on with the show uncut on its presentation really amazes me. I cant imagine western media to show a challenge to their narrative like this on air. Now, which media is really free and which is just a mouth piece for propaganda?

@izalazuizal Жыл бұрын

Accusation? 😂

@Toy_House1 9 жыл бұрын

The Quran, The Opening Chapter. 1. In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. 2. Praise be to God, The Cherisher and Sustainer of the Worlds; 3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful; 4. Master of the Day of Judgment. 5. Thee do we worship, And Thine aid we seek. 6. Show us the straight way, 7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, Those whose (portion) Is not wrath, And who go not astray.

@izalazuizal Жыл бұрын

I choose to go astray and life has been good, guess where the bad things coming from? Muslim community.

@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 8 ай бұрын

Quran 8:12 - “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

@ismaeelrafiq2136 6 ай бұрын

@@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000thats in the context of a war and is a command from Allah سبحانه وتعالى to the angels during the war.

@blackamoor61 9 жыл бұрын

To be honest the interviewer totally owned Murray when Murray tried not to answer the interviewer's opening question, which was sensible, and instead Murray went off on a irrelevant rant @ 5:20. Disappointed in Murray's performance really. I've heard him before and he's usually quite coherent.

@izalazuizal Жыл бұрын

But when western media do the same you won't say that thing, you probably would say "western media all liars", don't your religion hate HYPOCRITE?

@zombiehoof9486 9 ай бұрын

Bullshit

@smokeandmirr0rs 9 жыл бұрын

I think Douglas Murray appeals to freedom and rights too narrow-mindedly.

@manofculture584 5 ай бұрын

Oh nooo too much defense of freedom!!!