Only buy if you really think you'll need/use them...

perfectly said haha

your an idiot

@@ara5823 you're** Both of you are idiots.

it is being processed. the moment you turn on a plug in.

@@RickK1988 and who are u?

David Mitchell ofc it is being processed when you add a plugin. But he is saying that SOME of the plugins are doing very subtle things. That the chain is not over processed . Not whether or not it’s processed in the first place

Obviously a lot of his techniques can be copied and a lot of them can't be copied, not even by accomplished engineers on typical festival mixing desks like a Yamaha QL5 or Allen & Heath iLives...You just need a good bit too much processing power on most of his channels and busses for multicomping. But the essence of what he does with the plugins and where his work leads can be understood well by any decent mixer and there's a lot to be taken from this, even if you only have a Behringer X32 to mix with.

The special kids :)

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+Dakoolguy111 Yes, i do this occastionally using an interface (motu ultralite mk3) but you have to be very picky about what you use it on as latency is an issue. Generally i just use a vocal chain and then effects returns.

+Federico Nill the console itself. the wavesgrid server integrates really nicely into the surface of digital mixing consoles.

Apart of that, he has a midi controller to switch plugins on the rack

The waves server does not integrate with the SSL consoles like the Digico desks.

+Federico Nill I'd like to know as well. Almost looks like a livid? I use an MPK mini right now and have navigation mapped to the keys so they aren't wasted.

+Federico Nill Novation Launchcontrol Mini.

you need a big pc

haahaaa right!

+JamesMynameis looks like he has a midi controller that allows him quick access to the various plugin chaines. possible assinging buttons to bring up certian groups and channels then another to scroll through the chain

Familiarity and he can get the same FX quality as on the record itself

@@georgethompson1535 with 4 more years experience i have to agree with you...

LaMont Davis The bass is definitively heard; the multi-band is only reducing a bit of sub-bass frequency when the kick hits. It does NOT bring down the whole bass signal. Using this technique actually makes everything clearer since there is less competition for that real low end.

True

200 plug-ins unnecessary

that is very true it's always nice to have some fancy plugins that sound nice but holy fuck.... 200 fucking plugins??? Really bro? I bet he would panic if he didn't have waves.....smh

This is sooo dumb! Think about it, hes using Waves system for a reason! To use PLUGINS not just the board channel strip. Probably has at least 64 channels. Think about just an eq and comp on all of them, thats 128 “plugins” smh

Jesus Christ reading this gave me cancer… agree on the over use of plugins, but damn. “Kill frequencies causing feedback then get wedges nice and loud” Tf??? Definitely have that backwards….

Probably not much. All of his earnings are wasted on audio distortion.

literally depends on everything. if he's provided by the label's tour manager, or if he's in a union, or if he's the venue's engineer or if he's part of jason's personal crew.

@@lizziedanger4271 most definitely hired by band. Pay varies on experience but industry standard is $500 a day.

No...i think what the essence of his work actually is, is that you don't compress as much as people think. You compress more smartly. It seems like overkill, because he is able to run all these plugins live, that cost so much and use up so much computing power...but taking 1-2 db, then another 1-3 db, then another 2-4 db, he is actually compressing 1-5 db less than what mixers would have done since their widespread live availability in the 80s. 3 plugins doing 8db of gain reduction is smarter than ONE doing 10DB of gain reduction. I can totally follow that argument. Especially with the different timings of the compression.

Maybe you don't really understand how sound works :)

I think they use them as that extra 10% to make there mixes sound like the record. Again many of these plugins were also used in the studio with the artist themselves. Also big console effects are not even that great tho they are improving

+eldenjr I got to the 3rd EQ with a different name on one track and checked out. Talk about overkill!

Led Zeppelin used these plugins back when they were analog outboard racks

yes, actually if you look at the amount of fx units used for the led zep reunion show in 07 you'd laugh. there was one dude only mixing roberts vocal at FOH...

yeah ....no...production costs actually go down with digital desks (by a factor of 2-10) and processing power like this. the waves grid racks cost a couple thousand....but try buying an awesome or even DECENT sounding desk in the mid 70s, then add outboard gear...it would have cost so incredibly much...Led Zeppelin and 70s bands studios had equipment a multitude of what this costs....Especially old live mixing desks...cost as much as a whole neighborhood of houses.

You have completely missed the point of these plugins

Micplacement will only do so much to get the big mega produced drums on aldeans records. However it is important

+JARRETT JOHNSON I say, plug the mic into the board, and then add a little eq if needed, and thats it.

lol

Well said

Yay, the "good ol days" when all you get is a great low end. So muddy you can't hear anything.

Not really. I see your point and it certainly applies to the way recorded music sounds nowadays. However, live sound is a different beast in a variety of ways. Everything's constantly changing and it's good to have a good amount of control over the dynamic range of each instrument/mic. He's actually compressing a lot but that doesn't mean it's going to translate as 'over compressed' when you hear it and it obviously changes from venue to venue, PA to PA, etc. As to 'seeing' rather than 'using his ears', that's not entirely true. I'm a sound engineer and it REALLY helps to have some visual feedback when there's a certain frequency that's starting to cause a lot of trouble and you have virtually 2 or 3 seconds to figure it out before it starts to become noticeable and awkward to the audience. In extreme case scenarios (especially on small venues, clubs, etc) it may even lead to feedback and it's good to have an RTA graph to know where the offending frequency/frequencies is/are.

There was no pitch correction in his FX chain.

I was speaking in General about the Music today.

He looks like a great sound engineer.

have you ever heard Jason Aldean live? He ABSOLUTELY has Waves Tune in his vocal chain!

Don, I am sure that Jason would be very flattered to hear you say that with such confidence. I have mixed every Jason Aldean live and TV performance since 2009 and I can assure it has never been tuned, ever.