Inside the Robert Hanssen Investigation with Debra Smith

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International Spy Museum

International Spy Museum

3 жыл бұрын

Twenty years ago today, the worst spy to ever penetrate the FBI was arrested at Foxstone Park near his home in suburban northern Virginia. Robert P. Hanssen was a veteran FBI agent with thwarted ambitions. Feeling underestimated he turned traitor. Beginning in 1979, he provided highly classified national security information to Russia and the former Soviet Union on and off through 2001.
FBI Director Louis J. Freeh stated at the time: “A betrayal of trust by an FBI Agent, who is not only sworn to enforce the law but specifically to help protect our nation’s security, is particularly abhorrent. This kind of criminal conduct represents the most traitorous action imaginable against a country governed by the Rule of Law. It also strikes at the heart of everything the FBI represents - the commitment of over 28,000 honest and dedicated men and women in the FBI who work diligently to earn the trust and confidence of the American people every day.” Imagine being inside this case.
Join us for an inside look at Hanssen and the investigation that rolled him up with Debra Smith, former Deputy Assistant Director of the Counterintelligence Division at FBI Headquarters.
During her FBI career of more than 30 years, Smith supervised numerous espionage investigations and recruitment operations, most notably, this investigation. Smith received the Attorney General Award for Intelligence and the United States Attorney’s Award for her role in this major espionage investigation.
Amanda Ohlke, Director of Adult Education at the Spy Museum, will sit down with Smith to discuss what it was like to be a lead in this incredible manhunt. Following the discussion, you’ll be able to ask questions via our online platform.
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@am5790
@am5790 3 жыл бұрын
Debra Smith . A great citizen and professional !!!
@kdub7195
@kdub7195 2 жыл бұрын
Let me tell y'all something, Debra Smith is the real deal. I crossed paths with her twice in my career and she was as equally impressive then as she is in this. If she is on your ass, go ahead and give it up... She doesn't lose, ever.
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@Jenn_80
@Jenn_80 Жыл бұрын
Neat! Thanks for posting this!
@kevincarr335
@kevincarr335 2 жыл бұрын
I can't understand how someone who only worked for the FBI for 3 years would sell out his country for mere money when he was given a job and a position of trust. This Miss Smith is an asset to our country. Nice work.
@snn7313
@snn7313 8 ай бұрын
Hello Kevin. Believe me it's deeper than what you think. It's something inside him. For example: Feelings of danger, risk..etc bring satisfaction for some people.
@charlesdorman368
@charlesdorman368 5 ай бұрын
​@@snn7313A1😅
@ArtGirl82
@ArtGirl82 3 ай бұрын
He may have been turned before the start of his career and waited as a sleeper agent, until he could get access to national security documents. Karl and Hana Koecher orchestrated a fake defection, got degrees in the US and built up completely fake reputations over several years, all so they could insert themselves into diplomatic circles and the CIA.
@Katmandu29
@Katmandu29 3 жыл бұрын
Why are they not recommending Agent O'Reilly book, Gray Day?? He deserves recognition for this take down!
@matthewgrissop9408
@matthewgrissop9408 2 жыл бұрын
He does deserve a great deal of mention and credit for this
@F_Tim1961
@F_Tim1961 Жыл бұрын
It's a woke world. She gives him no recognition at all - it's all allocated to "the analysts ". O'Reilly did the Palm pilot heist and without that they would not have had a clue as to the time of the take down.
@HypatiaAmazing
@HypatiaAmazing Жыл бұрын
They did an interview with him two years prior to this one. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtBkZrlyyKrdZY0.html
@johnpentony
@johnpentony Жыл бұрын
She never gives him credit? The Palm Pilot was source of the day and time of that drop. The book is excellent.
@ronbolrase7593
@ronbolrase7593 3 жыл бұрын
Ms. Smith is very impressive. I think I’ve read most books on Hanssen, but have only recommended one; you can imagine how gratified I was when Ms. Smith emphasized David Wise’s SPY. This was a very, very interesting program. Thank you.
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie 2 жыл бұрын
According to author David Wise, Hansen in fact DID give the FBI an explanation as to why he turned traitor and that his only motivation was "financial".
@TheHailstorm77
@TheHailstorm77 7 ай бұрын
Financial? The stupid POS bought three houses with $600k given to him and a lot of diamonds! He really hurt all of us and endanger us all and had people killed. Just a terrible greedy bastard.
@BarbaraJoanneBJ
@BarbaraJoanneBJ Жыл бұрын
He died a few hours ago, June 5, 2023.
@CaliforniaFretman
@CaliforniaFretman 4 ай бұрын
R.i.p Mr Hansen
@MB-cx2ks
@MB-cx2ks 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you.
@letolethe3344
@letolethe3344 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they apologized to Brian Kelly.
@derekdoubleut
@derekdoubleut Жыл бұрын
He was fully exonerated, reinstated, and awarded a CIA Medal.
@LibertyStation92106
@LibertyStation92106 11 күн бұрын
Seems not enough for years of suspicion.
@letolethe3344
@letolethe3344 2 жыл бұрын
I used to walk on my lunch hour at Foxstone Park. A pretty little nature park in a suburb of Washington.
@NJ-Cathie
@NJ-Cathie 3 жыл бұрын
Hansen is a modern day Benedict Arnold. He is just despicable.
@48Ballen
@48Ballen 2 жыл бұрын
He is Supermax in Florence, Co for the rest of his life. Solitary for 23 hours per day.....
@NJ-Cathie
@NJ-Cathie 2 жыл бұрын
@@48Ballen He was paid a tremendous amount of money to sleep in that bed 🛌 for the rest of his life.
@megdonnelly8519
@megdonnelly8519 6 ай бұрын
His wife got off easy
@LibertyStation92106
@LibertyStation92106 11 күн бұрын
Yet we have an EX President, a convicted Felon and an adjudicated rapist who took dozens of boxes of classified material, hid them at Mar-a-LOCO. Lied about it repeatedly. Now indicted, he has an UNQUALIFIED judge (Aileen Cannon) that he appointed. This traitor judge is doing everything to assist to The Felon in avoiding his trial. He is The Worst American ever produced. Liar, Traitor. Cheat. Fraud.
@erpthompsonqueen9130
@erpthompsonqueen9130 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Tibs_Budapest
@Tibs_Budapest 3 жыл бұрын
How can you have an in depth interview about this case and dont even refer to Eric O’Neil?
@nicklovell8148
@nicklovell8148 Жыл бұрын
O’Neil is male. You work it out.
@Tibs_Budapest
@Tibs_Budapest Жыл бұрын
@@nicklovell8148 this is a spy case, shouldn’t be about dick and pussy.
@roberthenry9319
@roberthenry9319 3 ай бұрын
You can't.
@jumpropestairs6129
@jumpropestairs6129 3 жыл бұрын
Hansen had similarities to the Rampart scandal, Stephanie Lazarus arrest.
@LibertyStation92106
@LibertyStation92106 11 күн бұрын
She's a nutcase though.
@TheBSG
@TheBSG Жыл бұрын
Listening to this the day the traitor passed away incarcerated. Interesting video!
@TheLolapuff
@TheLolapuff 2 жыл бұрын
The “Need to Know” is the golden rule of Intelligence work. Certainly was that way in the US Army MI in the 70s and I’m sure it still is
@Rob-eo5ql
@Rob-eo5ql 3 ай бұрын
Imagine having a museum showcasing (the handcuffs used on Hansen etc) the failures of the FBI lol
@gerardmichaelburnsjr.
@gerardmichaelburnsjr. 11 ай бұрын
Hanssen looking at the sign with a flashlight was probably NOT looking for the drop itself, but a signal mark indicating a drop had been made. Chalk is supposedly popular.
@yoyo_ma7677
@yoyo_ma7677 Жыл бұрын
It’s too hard to hear the guests. They need to turn up the microphones
@EB-nz1qv
@EB-nz1qv Жыл бұрын
9:26. That is not a revolver.
@ghostsoup1313
@ghostsoup1313 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to have asked what Ms. Smith thought about the film BREACH starring Chris Cooper as Hanssen. Guessing the Kate Burroughs character is based on her. Wondering if the FBI requested the name change. Laura Linney was great in the role but Angela Basset would have been just as good.
@dr.barrycohn5461
@dr.barrycohn5461 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@DanielMulloy-bg6gw
@DanielMulloy-bg6gw Жыл бұрын
Hansen also chose that bridge because he could see it from his back porch....
@Spook2431NYC
@Spook2431NYC Жыл бұрын
Facinating interview esp w/ Robert Hannsen's death last week!
@dees9502
@dees9502 Жыл бұрын
NOT a service “revolver” 9:31
@richardcopeland6859
@richardcopeland6859 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@lornarettig3215
@lornarettig3215 9 ай бұрын
The volume on this is so low I couldn’t listen - the adverts came booming out at maximum loudness which was too much since I can’t predict when they’re coming. What a pity - it seems very interesting.
@dr.barrycohn5461
@dr.barrycohn5461 3 жыл бұрын
Well done. It must have been so sweet to smack the cuffs on. It sure didn't help Hanssen's career.
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
So true.
@realRainz
@realRainz 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that his wife collects his pension is deplorable.
@uayfb1
@uayfb1 3 жыл бұрын
She might be an innocent bystander. It would be grossly unfair for her to be penalized for her husband's actions.
@realRainz
@realRainz 3 жыл бұрын
@@uayfb1 She wasn't innocent, and she was not entitled to us paying her husband enormous damage. She caught him once spying.
@stellarwind1946
@stellarwind1946 3 жыл бұрын
@@uayfb1 she was an accessory after the fact, it’s called misprision of treason.
@Nickabod79
@Nickabod79 2 жыл бұрын
My husband's in the private sector. If he committed egregious crimes resulting in the loss of multiple lives and betrayal to our country I would not feel entitled one bit to his pension. Good lord. She knew something shady was going down and even if she didn't, too bad.
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the secrets he had that he was being asked to disclose. “What did you give to the Russian over the years?” Remember, they didn’t know what all he had handed the Russians. He had to answer all of the questions and follow-up questions the IC had for him. I think it was an easy trade: Pension & Life in solitary confinement 23/24 hrs/day for all of that information. Imagine 6000 pages of secrets. I don’t mind my taxes going to her pension one bit.
@jasperpike242
@jasperpike242 Жыл бұрын
Like so many KZfaq sites your sound is APPALLING
@TimothyOBrien-do1jo
@TimothyOBrien-do1jo 9 ай бұрын
Hanssen was definitely subverted, just like Richard Nixon was back during the Eisenhower Administration. On the 'retire to Poland' stuff, basically that was exploiting the legal non disclosure clauses involving my holocaust survivor grandparents in Buffalo NY, and the rest of that probably involved an 'uncle Bill' charade with Hanssen identifying as the late William Donovan, who was also Catholic, which suggests that Donovan was assassinated, and probably through some covert means. On the 9/11 thing, he did not 'help', and the 9/11 attacks were something that he helped to facilitate for the GRU as a means of retribution for the USAs intervention in the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan back in the 1980s, which was all part of his money laundering agenda in strip clubs, and knowing where to direct his money laundering assets to sell their food stamps for 'fifty cents on the dollar'. With his charity and political campaign contributions, all he was doing was conveying a Russian human intelligence agenda, and you can see that here and in the Eric O'Neill videos, in regards to Hanssen endorsing and forwarding tenets coming from 'the wrong book', in regards to operations and procedure, basically 'stovepiping', for unfriendly Intel. The Russians are good, don't get me wrong, but what they perceive to be our weakness is also our greatest strength, and that would be in regards to our ethics and ideals that are upheld when we engage in proper procedure in regards to due process and the consideration of an individual's civil rights. On the money laundering end, no one is going to come forward about that, ditto for the campaign contributions and charity contributions, but it comes down to knowing and what was done to shut down most of the known, planned 9/11 attacks, with funding for terrorist activity coming from the food stamp trafficking scams. The amount of leverage created by Hanssen as a defensive measure and means of obstruction was unreal, like the proverbial facehugger from an ALIEN movie, in that you can't kill it without it killing you, and a lot of that went through the unfriendly Intel human intelligence agenda - like I said though, his knowledge and participation in that would indicate that he was subverted before he came under Federal employment. A lot of the 'systemic corruption' that has plagued certain police departments is just 'him', peddling his influence and corruption to undermine local law enforcement, and it's clearly evident in Cities like Louisville and Lexington KY, where the equestrian industry brings visitors from all over the world and where threats against those visitors can be exploited not only as political leverage but as a means of obstruction as well. With a subvert though, it's not exactly like dealing with a split personality and on a clinical end it looks like schizophrenia, when the handler who imprinted him dominates and when he thinks he's 'running the show', but I would advise just handing people like him off to the CIA and sending them to GITMO in the future. For ah - 'debriefing'. People who investigate sex crimes probably get what I am talking about here, and it amounts to victims of sexual trauma identifying as the perpetrator or alleged perpetrator, and that person having a corrupt influence on the alleged victim, with the facilitation of self destructive behavior and all that, and with engaging in treasonous activity perhaps representing the ultimate in self destructive behavior. On the strip club end, figure that nearly every stripper that Hanssen went to for help on this, he probably ended up corrupting, as well. One of the more well known examples of a childhood sex trauma being exploited by unfriendly Intel is probably Nguyen Sihn Cung, and I think you all know who he was, but it comes down to the bad guys finding that anger and exploiting it as a means to manipulate. This trend is relevant in that it figures into the means utilized to facilitate the spillover from the protectorate which safeguards elections, AKA 'active shooters'. Still, awesome job on Hanssen, when you consider the amount of assassination threats and terror threats and divisive race issues and other means of obstruction facilitated by him or to protect him, and I am sure that I don't know them all, all I can say is awesome job. The amount of collateral damage is still staggering, but without this investigation having come to a successful conclusion, it would have been far, far worse.
@gerardmichaelburnsjr.
@gerardmichaelburnsjr. 11 ай бұрын
Hanssen is reported to have died very recently. I have long thought about this case and wonder if anyone has thought to check one angle: If I were a KGB or FSB handler (Hanssen worked for both), after gaining basic confidence in even an anonymous source I thought well placed, I would be interested in having such a person birddog any other person they knew who might be vulnerable. Set rewards could be promised and I would expect an anonymous sources NOT to speak of persons very close to him. That is all the more feasible since Hanssen proved to have vices that might have led him to run into others who were well placed who he could ID. I also am very curious about Hanssen's long fallow period: he sensibly broke off contact while the USSR was collapsing and resumed only around when V. Putin took charge. Was Hansen still showing excess spending during that time, my thought is that he may have sought another employer but I have never heard that question brought up. I consider my query about him birddogging more critical anyway. I hope Ms. Smith or some colleague can be consulted, I have found that from outside it isn't possible to track the careers of even former FBI persons (or others) who may have drawn Hanssen's attention in some way, yet some FBI personnel have seemingly been a little shady in the last decade or so, known to have spoken of "OCONUS lures" set to test or compromise individuals working in political campaigns, for example. Thank you, I don't need a reply, but would like someone capable to be informed of my questions.
@patriciadileonardo4620
@patriciadileonardo4620 3 жыл бұрын
UNFORGIVEN
@ronvosick8253
@ronvosick8253 Жыл бұрын
That wasn't a revolver.
@brianbelton3605
@brianbelton3605 Жыл бұрын
I would imagine the solitary of ADX Florence, is a gift for someone like Hanssen. Because, by contrast, if his being in general population, for example, at a place like Leavanthal, KS, would drive him nuts, dealing with the mad-house: For example, Hanssen is too cerebral for a "planet of the Apes" type environment. After watching the movie, Hanssen seems like he would prefer being non-social, and locked-up, all alone, monk-like. Either way, he is directly responsible for people being executed. This is Not for me to judge, and I only hope his victims are in heaven
@americanmeteoritefan9670
@americanmeteoritefan9670 2 жыл бұрын
So despite betraying our country an agent can still take comfort in the knowledge that his family can still enjoy his pension. Sorry...but if an agent betrays us, they should expect to lose everything including the pension....❤️🇺🇸. Let us not make this deal again.
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
As I recall hearing in one of Jonna Mendez’ interviews or talks, the pension was part of the cooperation deal with him (death penalty and pension). Since they concluded that the wife was not involved in anything illegal, herself, and because the information they would gain was so important, the pension was probably not even close to a dealbreaker for the IC. But it was for him. Apparently, the amount of info about what he had shared with the Russians was huge for the security of the United States and allies (probably in the short term and long term).
@joywyatt9136
@joywyatt9136 Жыл бұрын
The spy museum lady should have handed over to the speaker earlier She was a terrible speaker
@kevincarr335
@kevincarr335 2 жыл бұрын
That Rolex is no big deal
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
What would it have been worth back in the day? Is it 1980s?
@jumpropestairs6129
@jumpropestairs6129 3 жыл бұрын
What took you so long?
@boncafe0
@boncafe0 5 ай бұрын
Stop saying I’m !!!!
@icarustheother8591
@icarustheother8591 2 жыл бұрын
definitely_not_the_FBI🍀 Neighbors don't you know. LOL I'll watch the video now. Message pretense. Thank you!
@uneven5
@uneven5 3 жыл бұрын
"here's his service revolver". Then shows picture of semi-automatic pistol.
@DonWan47
@DonWan47 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. Does that make you feel good pointing that out?
@-danR
@-danR 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonWan47 It made 7 people feel they were not alone. What Debra Smith thought of such a bizarre gaffe is anyone's guess; it's not as though Amanda _mispronounced_ "revolver" .
@BERNARDO712
@BERNARDO712 2 жыл бұрын
"service revolver" is an old term for service weapon or service pistol which has just been carried down through the years.
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
@@BERNARDO712 thank you for mentioning this. That’s what I guessed but I don’t know anything about guns.
@rosalindmartin4469
@rosalindmartin4469 Жыл бұрын
Sir Uneven5 ...Thank you for a huge correction. However: "Service gun" ...too short, unimpressive and unalliterative in video fast speak. Older folks might appreciate the retro-speak term "service revolver." Service revolver would NOT appear in a written document or authoritative documentary. Ok
@patrickgreene2663
@patrickgreene2663 3 жыл бұрын
Stop saying......Um!!!!!!!
@MaryMacElveen
@MaryMacElveen 3 жыл бұрын
Great talk about the case. He gets to live and those poor agents in the Soviet Union who lost theirs because he gave them up. He basically murdered them. I am so proud of the FBI in catching this traitor. What angers me is how some make Snowden out to be a hero. He is the same as Hanssen.
@azff
@azff 3 жыл бұрын
Snowden is like Hansen? I guess you love being SPIED on by the gubbernment.
@michaelcruz2994
@michaelcruz2994 3 жыл бұрын
At least with Snowden, now we know that everything we say or write is stored and can be used against us. It’s really the NSA’s own fault for nullifying our fourth amendment rights. It really ends up being a tit for tat, and the government doesn’t like that.
@am5790
@am5790 3 жыл бұрын
Debra Smith is a Great professional and citizen than traitor Hansen.
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
@@azff I’m interested in your POV. Was Snowden’s goal to hurt the U.S. government, serve Russia, or just reveal the surveillance program to the U.S. public so that it could be stopped/amended? Do you agree that there would have been a way for him to reveal that the program existed without revealing the secrets in ways that served the adversary governments’ intel goals around the world?
@j.b.9581
@j.b.9581 Жыл бұрын
Edward Snowden is MOST like Christopher Boyce, LOOK up Christopher Boyce and LEARN. Also, watch the 1980s move, "The Falcon and the Snowman." Several high ranking intelligence officers and generals all filed into a theater-room at the prison where Boyce was incarcerated back-in-the-day, and they had Christopher Boyce SIT WITH THEM while they showed that movie. In interviews, Boyce has validated the veracity and accurate portrayals in the move, "The Falcon and the Snowman." There is ALWAYS room for learning.
@leonwaltemate6152
@leonwaltemate6152 11 ай бұрын
A narcissist with Top Secret information. Imagine that!
@LibertyStation92106
@LibertyStation92106 11 күн бұрын
Just like Chump The Felon.
@alexanderh9878
@alexanderh9878 Жыл бұрын
These Intelligence women are kicking ass!
@astrazenica7783
@astrazenica7783 3 жыл бұрын
FBI traitor? Surely not
@fernandoscrenci4874
@fernandoscrenci4874 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Case, I believe he was Agent for another country/ power , then join the F.B.I So he can get information to help the Russians , which in return help the people he was really working For!!
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
That would make a great origin story for this story. Write it! I’d buy that book!
@jeffborne1
@jeffborne1 2 жыл бұрын
Eric O'Neil was the guy who did the most vital job. That woman doesn't even mention his name. Some investigation. Hard to figure out her personal role in the case.
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t she the Supervisor of the entire effort?
@brianbelton3605
@brianbelton3605 Жыл бұрын
36 "umm'z" in 2 minutes. lost count. However, very Brilliant & smart ladies. Especially Debra.
@j.b.9581
@j.b.9581 Жыл бұрын
OK, SO you are a toastmaster. Maybe they need to go to toastmasters, but, YOU GO EXPOSE the WORST ESPIONAGE CASE in US HISTORY FIRST, right??
@appanpappan
@appanpappan 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to FSB!
@dr.johnnyfever9194
@dr.johnnyfever9194 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Oneil did the actual work.
@EChai900
@EChai900 2 жыл бұрын
He babysat Hanssen. That's all.
@antonioacevedo5200
@antonioacevedo5200 Жыл бұрын
@@EChai900 He gathered evidence against Hanssen and was able to get his electronic planner and have it decoded. From that action, they knew about the dead drop. He was more than a babysitter.
@j.b.9581
@j.b.9581 Жыл бұрын
@@antonioacevedo5200 Right On. Eric O'neill RISKED his LIFE to get the information to confirm that 'dead drop.' You got it RIGHT, bro.
@astrazenica7783
@astrazenica7783 3 жыл бұрын
They put the same efforts on their own president
@allangibson2408
@allangibson2408 3 жыл бұрын
When someone in your department is passing confidential information to a foreign intelligence agency (like Trump’s campaign members were (and bragging about it)) investigation is justified.
@astrazenica7783
@astrazenica7783 3 жыл бұрын
@@allangibson2408 evidence please
@allangibson2408
@allangibson2408 3 жыл бұрын
@@astrazenica7783 What do you think Roger Stone and Paul Manafort were convicted for? Trumps pardons of campaign staff all link back to this. Trump staff faced 237 separate felony charges (a new records for a presidential administration) - I.e. stuff with enough evidence to bring to court by a Trump controlled department of Justice.
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
@@allangibson2408 100% agree! When he was elected, all I could think was, “Well, if Putin wanted to plant a spy in the White House, could he have made a better choice?” The guy is so vulnerable to coercion (or whatever the right term is), so easily manipulated, and such an easy liar. Wow, I feel for James Comey and the entire IC. They must have all been freaking right out. (Mueller Report is a great read, by the way. It’s a real page turner.)
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
@@astrazenica7783 Did you ever wonder why Donald Trump worked so hard to try to disparage the Mueller Report?
@GGray-gg4yn
@GGray-gg4yn 3 жыл бұрын
Strange women !
@kevalvichare4759
@kevalvichare4759 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone from India 🇮🇳
@patrickgreene2663
@patrickgreene2663 3 жыл бұрын
Who gives a shit about India? SEMPER Fi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Barnacle_Bill
@Barnacle_Bill Жыл бұрын
Boring.
@johnglubney3228
@johnglubney3228 3 жыл бұрын
Of course the black woman gets the credit. Wokeness strikes again
@johnglubney3228
@johnglubney3228 3 жыл бұрын
@Marika Purcell well, maybe if you researched a little, this person was part of a team. Actually, she had a small part and yet here she is, taking credit..she is black, female, and has dreads..thats all you need. I don't consider blood type, skin color as a deciding factor..the woke society does that and they have decided whites are out. You ok with that?
@tightcamper
@tightcamper 3 жыл бұрын
@John Glubney No. I don't read it that way.
@LIamaLlama554
@LIamaLlama554 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnglubney3228 did you wander off from a National Socialist brownshirt rally?
@johnglubney3228
@johnglubney3228 2 жыл бұрын
@@LIamaLlama554 no, I'm not a National Socialist. Did you wander away from the annual NAMBLA Symposium?
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnglubney3228 Yeah, but it goes a lot deeper than that. You gotta be " the right kind " of a Black person or a gay person. The Wokey Wokes are behaving like they're the trailblazers, that people like like my uncle figure, Paul Robeson, Jr , had never existed. He was talking and writing about societal racism long before the Wokey Wokes showed up. Does he ever get mentioned by the interlopers? So don't assume that because a person is Black or Latino he/she is gonna get a rent free house at the beach and a Cadillac Escalade. This woman is sharp. Under different circumstances I would have loved to work with her.
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