Lol i thought the same

MOST people don´t.

Franz Schubert nooo franzie :( you’re number one in my heart

Mostly, he wrote for friends and their parties. He apparently enjoyed the dancing, drinking, etc. and died with flu or pneumonia in winter.

I dont

He did know he was dying, from his mid-twenties. Syphillis then was like AIDS in the 80’s and 90’s. You knew you had it, and you knew everyone who got it eventually died from it.

Raz

Many had had tuberculosis for years as well.

He reminds me of Hamilton. Why do you write like you’re running out of time?! Why do you write like you need it to survive?!

Irony is that I listen to Schubert to feel unhappiness.

Jude does Classics - I listen to Schubert to know that I am not alone in my unhappiness.

Jude.....So true.

Unless he is deprived of music.

@@ve1803 its a mixture of both in German

Except Beethoven was the master of the Romantic era and probably the first ever composer to write music that evokes his personal feelings and raw emotions

wouldn’t you like to know music as we know exists for at least 1000years. Every composer tried to evoke emotions, music without emotions doesn’t exist. Also, Beethoven wasn’t quite a romantism composer but rather a man of his own style (especially considering his deafness).

The String Quintet. The freaking C major String Quintet.

Bravo, I agree with You.

@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 Beethoven was a Master of the Classic Period, not Romantic.

Yes I did a double take on that...thanks for the correction!

Well...give us about 10 years and maybe then we can forgive this grave error. :p

Dein Deutsch ist sehr gut!

Would you make another “Listening Club”, won’t you ?

This was a very informative and excellent video, I feel a deeper appreciation for Schubert as a result. I would love to see more “why listen to ...” videos about other composers that aren’t necessarily house hold names, ie. Mendelssohn, Satie, Poulenc. Thank you for the well put together content!

Yes, I completely agree. It's like ...where or how did Schubert come up w/ that. I'd love to come up w/ a melody like that.

JJ Peterson well boy you can trace down all the way to renaissance period

Really? -.- From all of Schubert's famous works I like this one the least. It's cheap, not comparable to some of his masterpieces.

Absolutely

stefanie3831 maybe you’ve become desensitized to it because its often played

imagine if beethoven had lived for another 20 years

He might have got confidence to write a concerto. Something along the lines of wanderer fantasy.

In my opinion irrelevant... when you wrote so many great pieces there is nothing left to say.

imagine if Kalinnikov had lived for another 30 years.He would have written more great symphonies

Maybe they wouldn't have composed much music at all had they lived another 20 years. Thinking of Rossini and Sibelius, they virtually packed it in and lived many more years..

Rechtschreibung!

Klugschei*er 😋

@@phy2sp33 was passt den an der Rechtschreibung nicht

@@bnatrual denn*

Elfen lied.

“he makes the accompaniment integral to the piece . . .” this could be said about many composers

Jonathan Strand Yes, but none so well as Schubert.

This. Thank you. 🙂

@@jonathanDstrandI always wonder what infirmity of the spirit moves someone to bother with a comment like yours

The best for a long time!

Well, he was old at that time

Me at 17: can't describe on KZfaq comments

@Jordan - being 17 in that time is closer to death then today

Me at 17: I'm not even 17

I've just completed my final exams of Abitur in Germany (something between high school and college phase) and one of my focuses was Schuberts Kunstlieder (Solo songs, accompanied by a single piano), and I can only approve. Packing so many things in only the accompaniment which in itself isn't even all that hard to play and moreover, having the meaning of the original lyrical piece in mind at all times and reinforcing it through the music is a real achievement, maybe on of its kind.

Oh yes these chord shifts are so special

The same thought I had about anything Dvořak wrote

I am going to look for this in his music now lol

I like that hammering though because i feel like if you modulate the key then it should have a noticeable effect

It’s really lovely. I’m learning to play Liszt’s solo piano arrangement of it now.

Jacob Selmon I just finished learning Lizt’s arrangement. It’s absolutely magnificent, especially the "echo” part. I get shivers just thinking about it. It’s a piece that is not that hard to learn, but to musically master it is near impossible. The man closest to that task is Horowitz, in my opinion. His recording is mind blowing. You can really feel Shubert through his playing, the extremely difficult simplicity in Shubert writing. It’s a piece that is very easy to "over romanticise”, as done by many performers. It’s the complex simplicity that is so hard to show through the playing, but Horowitz manages it. You should definitely check his recording out (if you don’t have already)

Absolutely...Ständchen..beautiful!!

I think it's D. 957 No. 4 that you're all thinking of here! Schubert has more than one song titled Ständchen, and the famous one is the one set to poetry by Ludwig Rellstab ("Leise flehen meine Lieder") from his last set of songs the Schwanengesang, D. 957, and not D. 889. The latter is a different serenade that's set to a German translation of Shakespeare!

Eric Wong you’re right, I didn’t see that! Thanks for pointing it out.

We do a lot of his stuff in book 4 of Suzuki violin book

Vivaldi an Purcell are both next to Bach for me. All 3 combined complete the genre.

He was talking about the exponents of Viennese classic in that time...

Go listen Beethoven :D

​@@apostolismoschopoulos1876 ... And Rachmaninov, Bach and many other great composer, Still Shubert is on the very top for me. :-)

I agree

@@kalixberen why would you put rachmaninoff on the same tier as bach and beethoven LMAO, unless of course, you unironically enjoy listening to corny, over noted, sappy, lush, and sentimental music that sounds like movie soundtrack..? hmm, let me guess, i bet your favourite piece by rach is his piano concerto 2/3 ? ;-)

@@samaritan29 Bah, all these romantic, over-sentimental drama queens ;)

i see you in twosets comment sections as well.

He is among musicians, but i feel like as a household name most people don't know who he is. Like i didn't even learn who he was until a couple years after i really starting to listen to classical music a lot (that might also be because he didn't write much solo work for the oboe to be fair).

@@MichaelWilliams-ow9ue Exactly. I adore Schubert, but also many, many other composers. And still there's none I've actually heard every piece of. There are too many greats and many were too productive. It just happens I got lucky among all of Schubert's work before possibly moving on i.e. mainly "Der Erlkönig" and "Nur wer die Sehnsucht kennt".

I’m sorry for your loss, hope you’re doing and playing well

Schubert wrote the EVEREST work of wester music: his quintet with two cellos. He wrote this quintet along his late three month of life. Forgive my bad english. Mi mother language is spanish.

@@luisdiazlopez3712 Your English is good enough to be understood (and much better than my Spanish!). I share your opinion 100% - it is my all time favourite piece of music, across all genres that I have encountered. It has been so for more than 50 years. The only serious challenger (for me) from another composer would be the slow movement of Beethoven's Choral Symphony.

So sorry for your loss - I hope you found solace in Schubert?

I'm sorry for your loss

Exactly, it's absolutely art. They are just poetries and I can feel each and every notes on my skin. I want to forget their memory and listen them for the first time and feel lost in his music again.

Liszt did it justice too

Agreed

Dude, brazilian folklore is just wild, choros, sambas, bossa, what do you mean with "imagine"?

@@joafus yes, in the 80's... Nowadays all we have is Anitta, Funk, Pop. Brazilian music became depressing

Hi

Thank you! See pinned comment. I actually wrote that in my handwritten script, but then typed it up wrong and it somehow made the final cut. Thank you for flagging this!

Beethoven didn't feel the same pressure and actually deliberately postponed introducing his more radical ideas in order to secure a stable career. All of the works he published initially are quite clearly intentionally "safe", with some exceptions here and there. That guarded attitude went out the window when he realized the loss of his hearing meant any hope for a successful public career were now crushed. Schubert on the other hand didn't have to hold anything back because Beethoven had already plowed the way before him. We also need to keep in mind that this obsession with achieving mastery as early as possible is a fixation that only started after Mozart popularized the idea of the prodigy. Before that artists were not encouraged to write masterpieces at an early age at all. Maturity and experience was more valued than precocity. When Couperin was asked why he waited so long to publish his keyboard works he replied that a composer shouldn't publish anything until he was in his 40s. Bach too waited until he was past his 40s before publishing his major keyboard works, and to be honest i find that attitude preferable. I don't see the point of trying to write a masterpiece before you have mastered your craft.

Maybe there's hope for us yet then

What a loser am I right?

@@sophiaperennis2360 you have a point but if Schubert thought this way we probablty never would've seen his music.

Rainer Groß, Erlkonig is one of my favorites

Lmao

5:06 is it just me or is this guitar awfully backwards

Many years ago I had the opportunity of interviewing the great Paul Tortelier (as amazing in the flesh as his cello playing) and I asked him (don't cringe) if he had a favourite piece of music (I was very young at the time). He said not really, explained that all music was like a river with many tributaries, and then with characteristic generosity he gave me a one-minute potted history of Western music on the piano. Then he said, "Ah, but there is one piece which is very special to me." It was Schubert's string quintet. "Because," he said, "in the second movement you can hear two souls touch one another. I rushed out and bought the record, and he was right. You can.

@@fredneecher1746 oh yes!! Especially when the bows get to sing with the pizzicato, you are so right, there is a video of Arthur Rubinstein(just type Arthur rubinstein schubert gateway to heaven) he says in the interview that he always told his wife to play a record of this quintet when he's in his death bed, he said this piece (especially the second movement where the pizzicato just tickles your soal) is his gateway to heaven where he resigns happilly. Schubert wrote this great quintet shortly before his death, (sorry for the cringe) but it's almost as if it's his farewell to music and life. And thank you for that beautiful account of your interview with Paul Tortelier, it always gets me whenever the greats speak so profoundly about one particular piece of music.

Establishing categories between artists is uselessly risky. There is something much simpler, preferences: I prefer Beethoven's sonatas but I fully understand those who might prefer Schubert. I have recently followed a video of the recital that Andras Shiffty gave in 2018, with the D 960 sonata, followed by Beethoven's No. 32, op 111. I recommend watching this video because it allows you to perfectly compare two masterpieces, wonderfully performed. In the end I stayed with Beethoven, but I understand that others prefer otherwise. In any case, great music.

I agree that his music penetrates more deeply than any other. My limited piano repertoire is about 50% Schubert.

Val Lamon - on your last point.... I have found that to be so true many times.

Can you tell me your preferred recording of the 6th symphony?

@@joekbaron1205 probably a somewhat obscure choice, but the one I love the most is from 1994 with the Failoni Orchestra of Budapest conducted by Michael Halász

@@VallaMusic thanks, I will give it a listen, if I don’t like it for some reason, do you have another recommendation? I will listen to it now btw

@@joekbaron1205 not really - lol - honestly i have my small list of favorites for various symphonies and i stubbornly stick with them - but i guess that's the fun of it for all of us to find our favorites - although i imagine many classical music listeners are not nearly so narrow-minded and picky as me !

i particularly love the first movement of the 5th symphony - what a joy it is !

Totally agree! I'll whistle it right now!

Tolstoy would disagree

Or because it makes them uncomfortable being that intimate of an acquaintance with death and the afterlife

sounds right

@@lrm9298 It's one of my favorite quotes, regardless of who they accuse of it. ;o)

What are the a capella ones, do you know?

Especially the first set. "Impromptu" is a weird name for something so beautifully and carefully crafted (I think it was the publisher's idea, to get sales)