Installing a Shower Pan Base

Installing a Shower Pan Base | Tub to Shower

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Most request remodeling project these days 💥💥 Tub to walk-in shower 👊 In this video I share my tips and tricks on how to install a shower pan after removing that old tub. If I was a newer contractor wanting to start into this business, this is all I'd be concentrating on. High demand & value in this work. Easy work week 😊 Check out my course on this shower build, It will definitely save you time & 💰💰
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0:00 Intro
1:54 Shower Drain Installation
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@BathroomRemodelingTeacher Жыл бұрын

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@charcW8850 4 ай бұрын

I have watched 2 dozen videos all leaving me with more questions. You my friend have explained each step thoroughly and given such clarity I feel like I know what to do now, THANK YOU! Best video on youtube

@MkmeOrg 10 ай бұрын

An absolute pleasure to watch a master of his craft. The clear explanations throughout are perfect. Learned more skills from 1 video than 50 others. Cheers

@jeffkezerian4169 8 ай бұрын

Sir, Your videos and teachings are always so so helpful, and hands down professional and thorough.

@esjb86 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Exactly what I need ; I’m almost down demo’n and cleaning out all the debris- now I need to selecta base pan

@lindsey.buuuug 3 ай бұрын

I discovered this channel while broadening my understanding of construction and craftsmanship, determined not to accept my current situation blindly. I'm dedicated to expanding my knowledge of construction and proper installation techniques. Your channel allows me to confidently question whether these techniques were properly executed in a project. The default solution of filling gaps with sealant, up to a quarter inch, often prompts an eye roll from me. I even joked about whether sealant could save someone's life from a gaping wound in an emergency situation? Nonetheless, your videos are invaluable, and as a former educator, I deeply appreciate your dedication and expertise in educating your audience.

@carloslarosa5654 10 ай бұрын

The guy remodeling my bathroom had the pan unleveled, I called him and no answer, I left him many voicemails but he won’t return my calls . Thanks to this awesome video I did it myself and came out perfect! THANKS FOR THE VIDEO !!!!!! 🏆

@sethdublin508 7 ай бұрын

Best videos ever. No joke, really grateful for the videos. Thank you!

@RobHaren 2 ай бұрын

My only comment is that when Ido drains I always put a rag in the drain so that I don’t accidentally drop something down the drain. Great video! Rob

@Major_with_AbbyGail 7 ай бұрын

Good Job. Looks great! One suggestion, If you don't mind. I've run into, a few dozen times, a job where installing a safety hand bar was required. These are usually for handicap or elderly customers. In doing so, I have run into, several times, where there is not adequate blocking or stud spacing for optimal installation. I have opened walls (through Sheetrock) on opposite side of wall and added 2x4 blocking, then patched wall. So, when I do remodel and install new shower walls, with either fiberglass inserts or hardy-back for tile, i always add horizontal blocking in both walls (skipping, of course the shower plumbing wall), at the optimal height for bar installation. Hardy-back/Tile walls are probably strong enough to hold a bar on their own, but i feel better if there's some strength behind there, just in case a heavy person would try to arrest their fall and grab that handle. Safety first. I find that the cost and time to do this is very minimal and explaining to the customer that this was done for future reference, is always appreciated. Anyway, just a suggestion. Keep up the great work. Ty

@brotherperry2363 6 ай бұрын

I always do that as well, also when install a closet, I add blocking for the cloth bracket.

@frankclements1431 3 ай бұрын

I had a contractor remodel my bathroom. I specifically told him to add blocking to support hand bars. He failed to do as required. I pulled the hand bar away and had to install it again myself with really long screws. I don't know what I caught but I thought I was going to screw into my refrigerator in the kitchen.@@brotherperry2363

@MrRainbowrooster 4 ай бұрын

Best video on the subject I've seen and I've seen alot.

@hycinth5371 6 ай бұрын

Very informative. Thank you!

@pedrotheplumber 4 ай бұрын

wow that wheel tool is amazing.

@mannypack6983 8 ай бұрын

Great job!! It seems easy.

@10594812 8 ай бұрын

Very well-articulated

@noahpenjweny9352 2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much ,very well explained , thorough and detailed very well done

@kazakhi_v_canade 11 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for this video. It was a very good lesson for me

@valvestroke1 Жыл бұрын

Work horse...you break a sweat every day. Appericiate and learn from your content. Thank you again! I have been using expanding foam under my tub and shower pans, works great, is light ,and provides sturdy support.

@RoyVoth-df1fb Жыл бұрын

That's a great idea,Im remolding a bathroom with a stand up shower surround,for a elderly couple,and I was wonder about putting something beneath the the stand up pan.

@cpoul 7 ай бұрын

How much foam does it tale?

@kingsimeon2323 11 ай бұрын

Made it very easy thank you

@leftcoast9939 2 ай бұрын

THANK YOU for the awesome video,, NOW I FEEL READY TO TACKLE THE TASK BECAUSE OF THIS VIDEO

@4runner1019 8 ай бұрын

Great step by step video thanks

@robinhood50295 6 ай бұрын

Excellent I learned something new today.

@SilvanaGar-uo9iq 10 ай бұрын

Gracias por tan excelente explicación

@Alex-gx5mb 26 күн бұрын

Great job!!!

@baddad5781 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your no how with us. Our shower need done to

@Random.Adventures. Жыл бұрын

Great video. thanks

@eddiefromcali Жыл бұрын

Amazing how much of a difference/improvement it makes when you sit a pan/tub on a mortar bed. Sounds solid and feels nice and sturdy.

@guidosarducci8850 11 ай бұрын

My shower enclosure is really noisy. It pops and creaks when I'm using it, and keeps popping after use when it's cooling down. I think I might have to remove it and start fresh. Darn it!

@aznative_ 8 ай бұрын

@@guidosarducci8850 if you could drill holes in the face and put spray from in there you might be able to fix that problem.

@jamesdalton122 4 ай бұрын

Nice job !

@abrahamvazquez2006 2 ай бұрын

Very good job thanks

@salelpuma1541 5 ай бұрын

Good job l like the toll used for cut the pipe drawing thank u for the video,,,.

@dubsdollars2462 7 ай бұрын

Awesome video Bro! I've been doing bathrooms for like 15yrs now and every shower drain I've seen like that has leaked for some reason or another, but you've restored my confidence and I look forward to my next one

@redbloodedbutterfly 6 ай бұрын

What type of shower drain is less likely to leak in your experience?

@wesupchurch8991 7 ай бұрын

Very helpful bro

@GoNoGoDIY 4 ай бұрын

You are the best youtuber on bathroom stuff. I have watched 100+ hours. You go through all of it. You repeat common actions that most people leave out like teflon 4 to 5 times. I've heard you say some stuff over and over so it is trained in my brain. I'm installing a new rough in valve that is a replacement to another model and has a separate hand sprayer so an extra port. We shall see. I wanna be lazy and jerry rig the new one where old one was. Whoever did it used Delta with the pipes holding it up. The new one is too heavy. Dude I didn't even know what a 2x4 was when I started. Every single thing I have to watch 20 videos for just to use a tool. Never used any of my saws yet. So everything is tedious for me. Thank you!

@BathroomRemodelingTeacher 4 ай бұрын

😆 thanks, I sometimes repeat myself too much, but then again remodeling bathrooms become repetitive 😆

@ryeisenman 2 ай бұрын

I like the Oatey 102 solvent weld style better than the version you show (which has a nut that you tighten from bottom and a rubber compression washer that you tighten from top ). The solvent weld is probably a bit harder to dry fit. But if theres any future issues, theres nothing you would ever need to tighten from bottom; you do everything from the top. Especially if there is no easy maintenance access to bottom, I'd rather do solvent weld style. (I had a lot of trouble with the style shown in video; seal between pan and drain failed in a number of fiberglass pans in a dormitory and ended up replacing with the solvent weld style...)

@JorgeOcampo22 2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! I have watched this video two times... Just in case.

@Vogue4me360 7 ай бұрын

Great video

@DavidBarrentinemusic 4 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@DannySilguero Жыл бұрын

Great vid Steve. Can you please show how to install a double threshold shower pan with a glass surrounding. Thanks for all the knowledge!

@DannySilguero Жыл бұрын

So is that a yes on the double threshold shower 🤞🏼🤞🏼? I’ll definitely buy that course 😁

@gnarlybark Жыл бұрын

Sawz-All... greatest tool ever made!

@mariojimenez8348 4 ай бұрын

Great. Been. Looking. Too. Do. Both. Bathrooms. An. Shopping. Around. With. Outrageous. Contractors. I. Have. Building skill. Yet. One. Thing. I. Never. Did. In. T. 35. Yrs. Was. Go an Install. Showers ts video. Is. Tops !!

@jamespatterson1433 2 ай бұрын

Im in a pickel. In my walkin shower I put baby chicks in there just until I got their other place ready. The heat lamp fell in the night and landed face down and burned a hole through the shower floor. Im renting this home really sucks. If you dont think a Bath Fitter cover base then I'll be putting in a new floor I guess. Thank you I'll be watching all your videoes for sure.

@magncity1817 4 ай бұрын

Great video, thx! Is there a shower pan product that one can just insert without mortar underneath, and, can accept tile? Thanks in advance.

@tomdipasquale4744 2 ай бұрын

GREAT!!!!

@minnesotasalamander5913 10 ай бұрын

Good video.

@user-cj4ws5yb3j 11 ай бұрын

Good job

@Niaz.I 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your good work, what kind of false wall did you use to cover the walls before tiling? Is it ordinary wood or a special type that is insulated and anti-moisture?

@fragil7251 3 ай бұрын

I just watch a bunch of other video but let me tell ya you’re the first to impress me. Just one question would a DIYer needs a permit for this job, It’s so tempting I gotta be honest.

@davidphu7403 2 күн бұрын

Thanks for video. Learned a lot of tips. Just wondering what brand / model of shower pan did you used for this project. Any particular brand/model I should go with or avoid?

@Macky4941 3 ай бұрын

I nice trick i picked up is to use expansion foam instead of doing a mortar bed. Only downside is you have to watch it and keep it level as it expands, i used two big buckets of water and worked perfectly, just checked it every 5 minutes or so checking the leveling. Bonus is that it won't creak causing the base to crack eventually like it would with mortar.

@bkdesignconcepts Жыл бұрын

I am installing a synthetic marble shower pan on a concrete floor. What would you recommend to put under the pan or does it need anything?

@robertsincich4497 5 ай бұрын

Good video and I love your knee pads !

@marydaley7862 22 күн бұрын

Can you recommend a shower pan brand ? (like the one used in this video?) Thanks for being REAL!

@leoromero1263 2 ай бұрын

Your awesome

@KT-xd9yt Жыл бұрын

I watch these videos not because I want to learn how to do it but to understand how it's done

@patriotrep2093 3 ай бұрын

That’s the same thing.

@robsinclair1001 Жыл бұрын

Do you tile the floor then the curb and wall last on a tile shower? Thanks

@HowToDoitright Жыл бұрын

Can I use any kind of plastic to prevent plywood absorbing that moisture?

@MichaelWilliams-sr2ix 10 ай бұрын

i’m doing the plastic walls also, no tiles do I still need to put drywall up or just the studs?

@daewoo818 Жыл бұрын

Could I use morter under a pan in a mobile home, or will this add too much weight?

@user-wc9ok8hr4m 5 ай бұрын

Do these no calk drains when tightened push the tub up a little bit?

@mcgovski 11 ай бұрын

would this course apply to a pan installed on concrete? I would assume so, but thought I'd ask

@taylorthompson6685 9 ай бұрын

Where did you buy the 60x35 shower base? Having a hard time finding one.

@HsingSun 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your video. Question: Can I just install only shower pan onto the old ceramic tiles (without tear off the old tiles)?

@Urmom-ub6db 3 ай бұрын

Is it ok to use silicone around the rubber seal?

@omarvazquez4085 2 ай бұрын

How did you know where to put the drain? It lined up perfectly with the drain hole.

@kingsimeon2323 11 ай бұрын

I subscribed can you please lmk about if I wanted to build a shower pan using your outline can it be done and if so how different is it

@wg1408 8 ай бұрын

What brands make the best pans?

@DPL30276 5 ай бұрын

Since removing the old shower with vent, does this new shower not require a vent? TIA

@tim8172 2 ай бұрын

If the pipe coming up through drain isn’t perfectly level will it still be ok when all said and done?

@vettepwr23 Күн бұрын

Hi. Any issues with buying a 30x60 porcelain coated steel shower base like from Boots instead? There design doesn't require mortar but does require a level base.

@HowToDoitright Жыл бұрын

You don’t need to put any water proof liner before the pan? I see other people doing it in other videos

@TheDoogman 4 ай бұрын

can you use plumbers putty instead of silicone on the drain?

@meto5125 Ай бұрын

What type of screw head did you use when you screwd in the pan to the studs?

@xungngo 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. Wonder why you didn't cut the drain pipe first before setting it in stone.

@BathroomRemodelingTeacher 11 ай бұрын

Less likely to mess up the correct distance with a no caulk drain. Just cut to depth needed after setting pan 👍

@mings7337 7 ай бұрын

what is the benefit of using a no caulk drain? @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher

@Bschertzing2 6 ай бұрын

@@mings7337 i suspect its because he doesn't have access to the underside?

@gingertrodglen6730 4 ай бұрын

I was wondering that also

@xungngo 4 ай бұрын

After having done it now I am in agreement with BathroomRemodelingTeacher.

@HowToDoitright Жыл бұрын

What brand shower base did you use?

@denvershelton8631 11 ай бұрын

which brand shower pan did you use?

@antoniodivita4600 3 ай бұрын

Any reason to not cut the pvc drain pipe before setting the pan in mortar?

@denvershelton8631 11 ай бұрын

what is the brand name of the shower pan, is it Acrylic?

@davidia8000 9 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

@quynguyen2426 10 ай бұрын

Use spray foam to support underneath better, in case in the future have leak it's more easy to fix.

@michaeldudas7584 9 ай бұрын

Never, never, never!

@jayesh-yb1po 5 ай бұрын

How can I learn online ur course sir

@charliepham6889 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for nice video

@ronaldwoodruff4676 4 ай бұрын

What do I do if a joist lays cross the base directly where the drain is? The joists goes across the base front to back.

@catfish24 6 ай бұрын

How big can u get those shower pans i need one like 36 x 60 inches where i am taking out a big Jacuzzi tub and want to put in a walk in shower ?

@realworksllc4268 3 ай бұрын

nformative

@JTTTTx Жыл бұрын

If you step in it before the cement cures, you have negated the leveling by compressing the wet concrete. Lastly you don’t raise the base once you set it in place- see above explanation.

@Gear_Banger 11 ай бұрын

I’m assuming he waited for it to cure before

@mattstacy1652 9 ай бұрын

His base was solid level before also

@nate5381 9 ай бұрын

Can you install one of these without cement underneath?

@thle8972 9 ай бұрын

@@nate5381No. The cement acts as support for the pan hollow frame.

@wg1408 7 ай бұрын

@@nate5381the fiberglass rings are what support the pan. The mortar just seems stupid if you ask me. Once it's secured to studs, it won't go anywhere. PL3 each ring and drop her in. Or use a wax ring on each circle. Not a builder

@travissmith9119 Ай бұрын

i couldn't tell but when the 1 1/2 tub drain got cut out , its important to note that by code a 2 inch trap and drain is required. it looked like same 1 1/2 went back? i clicked on this to watch a guy make a pan , but was not exactly as i thought. But I would always recommend people look up the code and learn why and why it is, or even build better then code.

@juanzelaya2647 4 ай бұрын

Thank you proyect helpme

@sdowning533 8 ай бұрын

Don't mind buying your program, am I able to get live help to make sure I have it correct for what I am trying to do?

@charltonheston969 4 ай бұрын

I wish I would've found this video sooner 🤦‍♂️I pull my hair out figuring out the drain. One thing I'm going to do is run a little tube on the floor going to the drain so I can snake a borescope to check for leaks after I set base in mortar

@nikogto Жыл бұрын

So it's better to use silicone vs plumbers putty to install the drain to shower pan? I'm getting ready to tear out the 1 piece tub/shower today and install shower only kit. So the drain pipe needs to be an inch below the top of the drain, could I also just measure and cut it, fit it before laying down the pan?

@MrTheBigNoze Жыл бұрын

According to the delta acrylic pan instructions, you should only use silicone and no plumbers putty

@nikogto Жыл бұрын

@@MrTheBigNoze That's what I thought, just makes more sense as I've had to replace drains that were installed with puddy and failed.

@georgebishop6745 6 ай бұрын

Putty.@@nikogto

@marcosreyes7662 Ай бұрын

Is true I have to tear down the whole shower to replace shower pan?

@MP96707 4 ай бұрын

I was really waiting for you to show how the ladder is connected at the end(

@chrisdgg30 12 күн бұрын

Wouldn't the U-pipe cause drainage issues?

@eddieesco2432 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't low expansion spray foam work just as good as mortar for setting the pan/tub? Thanks!

@BathroomRemodelingTeacher Жыл бұрын

I really can’t see how it could be better than mortar? But they are making better foams and things these days. I don’t know of a manufacturer that recommends that yet

@psychonaut513 Жыл бұрын

The instructions for that shower pan he's installing actually tells u to silicone the bottom no mortar

@BathroomRemodelingTeacher Жыл бұрын

@@psychonaut513 no, no it does not

@psychonaut513 Жыл бұрын

The one I did was identical but hell who needs instructions..lol

@BathroomRemodelingTeacher Жыл бұрын

@@psychonaut513 I’m sure there are different methods of installing, if it worked for you good for you 😆

@Chef.Maurizio 2 ай бұрын

What is the name of that pipe cutter? Can it be purchased at Home Depot?

@scarecrow1490 5 ай бұрын

Gotta have the mortar. Replaced shower pan that cracked because there was no underlayment. The uneven floor didnt help either.

@jasonmeyers3423 7 ай бұрын

So why silicone instead of plumbers putty?

@christianb4053 2 ай бұрын

In an acrylic shower pan like this, silicone is better in my opinion. Plumber's putty never hardens, provides no strength or adhesion to either surface and basically just creates a gasket....not really a "permanent" water tight seal. The pan is set PERMANENTLY. The drain assembly should also be attached PERMANENTLY to the pan imo......hence, silicone.

@dlugas251 4 ай бұрын

Most people don't understand what silicone + rubber is doing. Try to put some silicone on rubber gasket on pressurized system then you will never make the same mistake again.

@bobscaping Жыл бұрын

Looks like a young man's game LOL

@jbone412 3 ай бұрын

What do you do if you have an odd ball size bath. I am measuring 57.75 wide and 46.5 deep. I can not find anything close to that

@BathroomRemodelingTeacher 3 ай бұрын

Rough framing measurement?

@w.cardenas8181 10 ай бұрын

I have a question for you, a guy installed a shower bed like this one , what did he do wrong , when I get into the shower , it starts squeaking. I hate it .

@rick343 8 ай бұрын

Probably used spray foam instead of mortar 😂