Installing an Apple AirTag on a Bicycle // Best Locations to Install // Field Testing

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Shane Miller - GPLama

Shane Miller - GPLama

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Apple AirTags are a brilliant way to track items such as bicycles due to the extensive reach the Apple 'Find My network has. They're technically not sold as 'theft trackers' but they work really REALLY well for this function. In this video I install FOUR AirTags on my bike and test the the detection range of each. I also answer a few commonly asked questions (and clear up misconceptions) about how AirTags work if someone was to steal your AirTagged bike/item.
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@iamblacktalon
@iamblacktalon 3 жыл бұрын
First day I got my airtag, I put it in my saddle back and started a long 115km ride. Discovered the saddle bag fell off 50km into the ride, but the saddle bag was found by a kind soul who returned it later. The airtag paid for itself on the first day!
@kirstencarrabahazie3891
@kirstencarrabahazie3891 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you find the bag with the AirTag?
@BarryMJames-lv5un
@BarryMJames-lv5un 3 жыл бұрын
Just when I thought the bird steals your show you vaporised him. What a diva 😂😂😂
@rhenceocampo3253
@rhenceocampo3253 3 жыл бұрын
First hand experience here, someone stole my bike recently while I was inside a gas station store. Thankfully, I had an airtag inside the bottle cage mount as described in this video. It really is a clever and sneaky spot to hide the airtag because the thief’s main focus is getting away far as possible. I can’t recommend putting it in a saddle bag or any visible attachments because the thief threw away the contents for a possible tracker. I can confirm the thief won’t be alerted and was caught in an hour of pursuit. What I can say is that you need to alert the police right away about the situation (mostly because the thief may be carrying a weapon) and it helps that you register the bike’s serial number with the 529 Garage app and take a photo of it. This helps the police in identifying and matching your bike while the thief is on the getaway.
@CapybaraCM
@CapybaraCM 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you got your bike back! Hurray! And thanks for the other tips as well. Hadn’t heard of the 529 app so I’ll be attending to that later today. Again, yay for ATags!
@marshallfarthingproject4ag282
@marshallfarthingproject4ag282 3 жыл бұрын
Rhence - did you use my design (Project4AGZE) from Etsy!? I know I shipped you one at the beginning of May! But Canadian customs is being SO slow right now so I wasn’t sure if it ever arrived… THIS IS FANTASTIC NEWS!!!!! I’m so happy my product was able to help you (hoping it was mine)
@artgreg2296
@artgreg2296 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this testimony
@ToreOnYouTube
@ToreOnYouTube 3 жыл бұрын
A weapon? Where do you live, Murica?
@tonywillenberg5329
@tonywillenberg5329 3 жыл бұрын
@@avalsirithanawat1772 ​ The problem with "Bike Index" is that when attempting to sign-up the Google Chrome browser warns that the site is not safe! Perhaps a problem with their TLS certificate?
@Unitedflyier
@Unitedflyier 3 жыл бұрын
I put mine under the front mud flap. Used black duck tape so no one can see it. Stays nice and dry. The flap is made of plastic and gives out a really strong signal. You have to get on your hands and knees and really look hard to see it. Now there is a little mud on it too so it’s even harder to detect.
@tonythompson5950
@tonythompson5950 3 жыл бұрын
great idea, thanks!
@mbakker1996
@mbakker1996 3 жыл бұрын
Does the speaker still works if you tape it down? because it works with vibrations.
@Unitedflyier
@Unitedflyier 3 жыл бұрын
@@mbakker1996 yes
@The_Northerner
@The_Northerner Жыл бұрын
Amazing tip, thank you!
@listentobobmarley7
@listentobobmarley7 10 ай бұрын
@somewhatfrog
@somewhatfrog 3 жыл бұрын
5:25 made my day. Thanks Shane.
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
🔥🐧
@KaushikNSanji
@KaushikNSanji 3 жыл бұрын
@@gplama Lama kills the bird, does a "Duck hunt"! Literally reminded me of that classic video game!
@douwe3300
@douwe3300 3 жыл бұрын
If blowing up animals makes your day you may want to consult your psychiatrist
@bikerdude221
@bikerdude221 3 жыл бұрын
@@douwe3300 I think you are missing the understanding as to why and need to consult many other videos from GPLama for a better understanding... This was also just done digitally animated and you would not see @Shane Miller - GPLama actually physically hurt a magpie.
@KaushikNSanji
@KaushikNSanji 3 жыл бұрын
@@bikerdude221 I guess Shane should have put a disclaimer in the end! ;)
@xtrailz
@xtrailz 3 жыл бұрын
The real pro tip is to hide 2 airtags on the bike. If thief finds the first one he probably won't look for a second one.
@Gromcan
@Gromcan 3 жыл бұрын
in the movies usually search after one
@SPECIALKALIBERTV
@SPECIALKALIBERTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! Did this with the Tile on my electric bike… found my bike 2 weeks later with only the second one still hidden. In NYC at that 🤷🏾‍♂️
@0741921
@0741921 3 жыл бұрын
Legends put 3
@tiffariff
@tiffariff 3 жыл бұрын
My plan is to get an LTE tracker to put in the frame somewhere and a airtag in the seat, or possibly the bottle holder- the seat is often checked the most but at the same time people at my college like to steal seats for shits and giggles a lot- something I can’t really secure so I could even track my seat lol. If my bike was really REALLY expensive (it’s expensive but not too badly since it’s not even sold anymore and fairly used- I also have outgrown it by a couple inches but since I’m not taking biking seriously anymore its fine), I’d put two airtags (bottle and seat) and an lte tracker in the frame. Not quite sure how the LtE signal is going to be inside the frame but most of those on the marker are also designed in to be inside cars which is fairly similar.
@NekoMichi
@NekoMichi 3 жыл бұрын
I put an AirTag in an inconspicuous spot while also fitting a dead (an unrepairable) Tile tracker is a somewhat visible place as a decoy. Heh heh...
@BootsIsHere
@BootsIsHere 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to you for such a comprehensive test of the air tags. Most of us are mediocre KZfaq presenters but I would consider you very top-tier. Learned a lot from you and your tests are very comprehensive.
@scottrata1813
@scottrata1813 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for making it! It seems like a tradeoff between signal strength and ease of removal, especially if thieves start looking for them in the obvious places (e.g. a water bottle cage or seat post could be removed in seconds). How about disguising the AirTag within a faux Stages power meter?!
@user-yp8bq6io5y
@user-yp8bq6io5y 27 күн бұрын
the bird blowing up got me omg so funny
@JimVajda82
@JimVajda82 3 жыл бұрын
I expected the saddle mounted tag to perform better. It was likely affected by the metal pole it was resting against. One tip is to pay attention to the materials your bike is constructed with and avoid putting the tags inside metal. Metal is death to RF. The bottom cage mount may not have the same performance with a bottle full of water on top of it either.
@rbrownja
@rbrownja 3 жыл бұрын
The cargo bike was easy enough to put a tracker on the inside of the box but for my hybrid commuter I cut open the rear reflector, put one in there and sealed it back up which I was pretty happy with!
@MeMe-ng7lp
@MeMe-ng7lp 3 жыл бұрын
These are battery run though so you’ll have to keep doing that when the batter dies
@scruffyRe
@scruffyRe 3 жыл бұрын
@@MeMe-ng7lp apple said they last a year so you should be okay
@rbrownja
@rbrownja 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s my feel too! Once a year, crack it open and replace with a yearly strip down maintenance
@scruffyRe
@scruffyRe 3 жыл бұрын
@@rbrownja exactly my thoughts
@bernovanderwal
@bernovanderwal Жыл бұрын
This was exactly the review I was looking for! 🙏
@crotonik
@crotonik 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, first for once. I am using an apple airtag to track my moving boxes across the US and it has been brilliant.
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
I found the same with the local postal test. So much better than DHL/etc. I'm also part of a global AirTag postage test that someone else is doing. I've been keeping an eye on the data.... it's going to be a great video once the little taggy makes it back home.
@latsots
@latsots 3 жыл бұрын
@@gplama it would be really greate when UPS tells they will be at your place before 6pm and you are locked at home waiting on them to just not come at all lolol
@tedjeanmahoney8547
@tedjeanmahoney8547 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! WELL THOUGHT OUT. THANKS BIG HELP!
@JamesBardolphCS
@JamesBardolphCS 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort put in to this video!
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks James!
@bengt_axle
@bengt_axle 3 жыл бұрын
Good to have one of these tags in your bike bag. As you are sitting in the plane, (while on the tarmac) I wounder if you could see if it would pick it up as the baggage handlers are moving it into the cargo hold. Also, at your destination, you could probably pick up the signal near the carousel or the large item pickup belt. Similarly, at a hotel baggage room, you could know your bag is in the room without having to go in it. I think the key is to put it in an inconspicuous location where the tag would still work but not get removed or lost.
@markc7556
@markc7556 Жыл бұрын
I did this exact thing flying from Manchester uk to Orlando with my family. Having worked at Manchester for 10 years a long time ago and knowing the current situation at airports with staffing levels and missing bags it was a no brainier. Watched all our bags travel from check in to the aircraft and ended up basically sat over the top of the bag can they were in.
@shanew634
@shanew634 3 жыл бұрын
Top tips Shane.👍
@mykweb
@mykweb 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always.
@nimbuscycles2354
@nimbuscycles2354 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, something I was already considering but you just sold it.
@markjlewis
@markjlewis Жыл бұрын
Lezyne have introduced a bottle cage with an IP67 rated compartment for an airtag. It comes with tamper proof screws and a hex bit to help with installation. It's a bit on the expensive side when compared with regular cages but I decided it was worth it. In the UK I found it online for 30 quid (33USD, 54AUD).
@ianboylan91
@ianboylan91 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful - thanks Shane
@andrewwylie9259
@andrewwylie9259 3 жыл бұрын
My Checkpoint has a perfect spot for this. One of the downtube bottle cage sections has a removal section to get into the frame for wire routing. I'm going to duct tape it in there (wrap it in some old rubber tubing to prevent the rattle). And I might also then replace the screws with something tamper resistant.
@andrewwylie9259
@andrewwylie9259 3 жыл бұрын
...now pictures it coming loose and furiously shaking the bike upside down trying to get the damn thing out again!!
@jamlarna
@jamlarna 2 жыл бұрын
That was a really informative video and very extensive! Grate job 👍
@gplama
@gplama 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James.
@hockysa
@hockysa 2 жыл бұрын
exactly the information i needed, thank you
@terrytheas
@terrytheas 3 жыл бұрын
Like they said in Sherlock Homes (season 4 ep 2) they always stop searching after 3.. great video!
@louisyoko2723
@louisyoko2723 3 жыл бұрын
"Sherlock Homes" I heard about this fella, apparently he's a bit loco?
@charlesredick9424
@charlesredick9424 3 жыл бұрын
I have 3 AirTags on/in my bicycle. Trek Domane SLR7. One in plain sight hanging off my bike bag. One up in the internal tool kit in the frame’s downtube that’s integral to the better grade carbon Domanes. Both with the sound chip untouched. The third is in the bottom bracket. It’s sound chip is removed so no chirping. Hopefully one will get my bike back if stolen. The one hanging off the bike bag is easy to put in your suitcase when traveling without the bike.
@anttipirttimaki9694
@anttipirttimaki9694 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video! Would you mind sharing the design / link for the bottle cage mount? Would be great to 3D print one.
@Oji1978
@Oji1978 3 жыл бұрын
This video answers a lot of questions about airtags! Awesome!
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@cristibaluta
@cristibaluta 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test, i was convinced the carbon also acts as a faraday cage but someone put it inside the bottom bracket and claimed it works, probably he didn't test the range. For mine I was thinking to make a channel cut on one end of the handlebar drop then mask it somehow. There's also some space between the shifters and the handlebar, might fit if you remove the electronics from the airtag.
@WowRixter
@WowRixter 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, something I can use my Wahoo cadence holder for until I get a bottle cage holder. I'm thinking B2 is using your bike frame as a bit of an antenna. I once saw a video where where if you holder your cat keyfob next to your head you get a longer range to remotely unlock your car
@treyquattro
@treyquattro 10 ай бұрын
I was really enjoying the technical aspect, and then the bird blew up and just took this video to the next (hilarious) level!
@gucciguilty5848
@gucciguilty5848 3 жыл бұрын
4 air tags for 1 bike is actually good, only $99 but you get 4 chances to track it with out a subscription fee
@Voyajer.
@Voyajer. 2 жыл бұрын
Even better if some of the four are other brands like the Samsung tracker and Tile so you have the best chance to have it be detected
@JazzFunkSouldier
@JazzFunkSouldier 3 жыл бұрын
I've thought about adapting for the handlebar plug, do they interfere with Garmin etc?
@TheBarts27
@TheBarts27 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Very helpful. Too bad that the Airtags in the Netherlands arte sold out.
@cybertonto72
@cybertonto72 3 жыл бұрын
A guy that works in my local Apple store uses one on his bike and he got some sort of sticky pad that he used to mount the tag to the bottom of the saddle. This seems to me to be a great idea
@dndjxnskdbajd4561
@dndjxnskdbajd4561 2 жыл бұрын
pretty obvious spot though really
@davidwill1320
@davidwill1320 Жыл бұрын
I have some of the sticky pads and they work great, but you still have to find a good hiding spot. I prefer the bell ringers that are designed to hold an AirTag in a water tight compartment.
@Gallardo6669
@Gallardo6669 Жыл бұрын
Thx . excellent video
@nicktaylor8112
@nicktaylor8112 3 жыл бұрын
I put mine in the bottom bracket, works great, just hope I never have to use it..
@bouldersuechtig
@bouldersuechtig 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@christophers9095
@christophers9095 3 жыл бұрын
Curious was your water bottle full when this was shot? I think a full water bottle will help the antenna get a better signal (seriously)
@uknavynige
@uknavynige Жыл бұрын
I bought a bell from Amazon yesterday that hides a air tag in its Base, right in plain sight. Fantastic idea, although I also have a bike finder tracker fitted too! 2 locks, 2 alarms and 2 trackers I pity the thief that tries to take my bike lol.
@evelyncrickettstrelecki934
@evelyncrickettstrelecki934 Жыл бұрын
What alarm did you use? I’m in the market
@uknavynige
@uknavynige Жыл бұрын
@@evelyncrickettstrelecki934 for alarms I have a rear bike light from amazon that has a built in motion sensor that sets off a war piercing alarm. Also abus make a bike lock that has a built in alarm too.
@evelyncrickettstrelecki934
@evelyncrickettstrelecki934 Жыл бұрын
@@uknavynige thanks!
@mich8261
@mich8261 3 жыл бұрын
I got a bottle cage tracker holder on Etsy. I am going to replace the hex bolts with something a little less common. The goal is to delay removal by the would be thief
@mikeprytherch8875
@mikeprytherch8875 3 жыл бұрын
Pitlock do an M4 and M5 screw
@russsims1
@russsims1 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a video on this and ordered the AirTag mounting bracket. The presenter did the same with special screws that require a unique bit to loosen.
@Bflo23
@Bflo23 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it waste the airtag battery if it constantly beeps while in the garage and out of bluetooth range?
@kenguie
@kenguie 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Watched from here in NY, USA. I was wondering. I just started riding and it’s pretty dangerous for a bike here when parked. I’m curious, the sound an orphaned air tag makes, does it make that sound if you have the tag in lost mode? I wouldn’t want a crook to hear my air tag if I was trying to find my bike, and it could take longer than 3 days especially if you leave looking for it to the police. Does this setting make a difference?
@shannontrainer5857
@shannontrainer5857 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they will make a sound, because it's basically designed to find lost stuff such as your keys or wallet.
@GayCorvidae69
@GayCorvidae69 2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna try and use this with a bike I have at the train station, but it’s stationary, I am not near the bike every 3 days, probably about once a week. If people moved the bike slightly tro get thier bike out, would the chirping begin? And does it keep chirping or will it stop after a few? Will it alert me it’s been moved?
@Choedron
@Choedron 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering if you attach a wire to the metal part, of the airtag, and then to the metal of the inside of the stem, if the stem will act as an antenna for the airtag. And that way get it to work inside the stem.
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea! It wouldn’t be as simple as a wire though. One for the hardware hackers out there.
@hkchan1339
@hkchan1339 2 жыл бұрын
Using the frame of the bike as loop will definitely increase signal. But I am not sure of the wiring and if it will affect battery life as it will need to power through the whole bike metal framework
@_Per_Aspera_Ad_Astra_
@_Per_Aspera_Ad_Astra_ 3 жыл бұрын
30 m W/O anything inbetween。 distance too short. great test, thank you.
@jakobmeibeyer
@jakobmeibeyer 3 жыл бұрын
05:29 thats awesome! 😂💥
@DanielFonseca1
@DanielFonseca1 3 жыл бұрын
Explosive cut!
@rgl8109
@rgl8109 Жыл бұрын
very good video
@marcsteingrand1354
@marcsteingrand1354 3 жыл бұрын
Would be great to have a kind of adapter which you could put the airtag in and then close it and mount o. Top your Garmin so nobody would suspect the airtag in a Garmin bike mount
@TomAshworth
@TomAshworth 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of having it in a container that goes under out Garmin front mount…
@bradleygregory2294
@bradleygregory2294 2 жыл бұрын
Amazon has Downtube bracket for them what does under bottle cages and battery or you could put it in your seat
@bradleygregory2294
@bradleygregory2294 2 жыл бұрын
I have a ebike for just for work and have one inside my motor on BAFANG mid drive
@Swaggarization
@Swaggarization 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradleygregory2294 Nice! Great spot I think. Maybe you want to share how you got the Airtag sturdy and safe inside the motor exactly?
@TheStinkings
@TheStinkings 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone used an airtag in a bike box (like a luggage item). Wondering if they will have good connection through those quite solid structures.
@stevedirdochegal6568
@stevedirdochegal6568 Жыл бұрын
I opened my Airtag up and removed the Speaker so there is no more sound comming off of it.. a thief only knows theres one around but can't play the sound to locate it
@KevinSteeleisme
@KevinSteeleisme 3 жыл бұрын
With the comment of using an RPM cadence sensor holder, I wonder if you tried mounting it to your crank arm at all? This looks super helpful, regardless!
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't mounted one there. It'd likely be a good place.
@elninndo
@elninndo 3 жыл бұрын
Follow up coming for the Garmin rally XC? Do I pull the trigger on them or be patient and see if favero comes to the table with something?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Not at this point. I'm still not confident in the numbers/drift I'm seeing as per my first video.
@elninndo
@elninndo 3 жыл бұрын
#inlamawetrust
@chrishernandez2411
@chrishernandez2411 2 жыл бұрын
thumbs up for the bird. Thanks for that.
@JesusChrist-vz6vg
@JesusChrist-vz6vg 3 жыл бұрын
I wrapped my airtag in black gaffa tape and superglued it to the underside of my saddle. I used a lot of super glue like most of a small tube. This way the airtag blends in reasonably well and it will take sometime and a knife to remove it from the bike.
@paulwalker6153
@paulwalker6153 3 жыл бұрын
Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal (for gaffa tape doth foil the thief). Amen.
@V35pilot
@V35pilot 3 жыл бұрын
How will you replace the AirTag's battery?
@4bidn1
@4bidn1 11 ай бұрын
@@V35pilotwith a knife and some time 😂
@tgsparkyoriginal
@tgsparkyoriginal 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got my airtag under my BMC ICS stem and it works great. It gets picked up by people walking past my house.
@jochem1986
@jochem1986 3 жыл бұрын
Let me make you a cable cover for that.
@tgsparkyoriginal
@tgsparkyoriginal 3 жыл бұрын
@@jochem1986 cheers mate but it already comes with one.
@jochem1986
@jochem1986 3 жыл бұрын
@@tgsparkyoriginal Yeah but your AirTag is on the outside of it, not on the inside.
@an2niotransitproductions813
@an2niotransitproductions813 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a legit gps I can use to track my bike!
@michaelmichael2382
@michaelmichael2382 2 жыл бұрын
Its not a gps tracker
@tumpelo22
@tumpelo22 Жыл бұрын
I lost it at the spontaneous combustion of the bird lmao
@latsots
@latsots 3 жыл бұрын
is it worth buying if i dont have a iPhone? would that work through some app on android? Or can i use it to see on macbook? iPad? that could have been answered..i am not much into iWorld but this airtag sounds like a good idea to have on bike. great info thanks for sharing
@kurt6081
@kurt6081 3 жыл бұрын
No, the app needs to be apple, iPad might work for finding, not sure on setting up, it could be set up with someone else''s apple account (if you had a spouse or close family member with an iphone) but it would not work without an apple set up, and you can't do that distance and direction measurement without an iphone 11 or newer. If I was actually expecting to recover a lost or stolen bike I would really want my own phone to be able to track it though
@rorythomas3084
@rorythomas3084 3 жыл бұрын
I have an E-bike, and a key is needed to take the battery out. So I am able to stuff an airtag in the hollow above the battery, and the only way to get to it is with the key, which I don't carry with me. Aswell as that, the hollow is in plastic so the signal stays strong through the bike
@bayupran
@bayupran 2 жыл бұрын
what kind of e-bike do you have?
@russsims1
@russsims1 2 жыл бұрын
Have you or did you do any tests such as the AirTag exposed and then where you have it mounted? Check the distance you were able to track to the bike. Saw a video where a guy placed three AirTags on his bike, one inside the head tube was worthless..no signal. I am exploring options now for my new bike. Plan to place two.
@lechprotean
@lechprotean 3 жыл бұрын
I also got an airtag on day 1, put it in my bike's saddle bag and I hope to never have to use it.
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Saddle bag is a really logical place to put one. I've lost more saddle bags over the years than bikes. It'd be great to know where they popped off so I could return and look for them (or have it returned to me if it was found).
@charlied1675
@charlied1675 3 жыл бұрын
That poor pigeon! LOL!
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
🔥
@alexanderkoch4830
@alexanderkoch4830 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's an Australian Magpie.
@KaushikNSanji
@KaushikNSanji 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderkoch4830 Just verified with Google lens. Spot on (maybe)!
@vanillaflyweight
@vanillaflyweight 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a Magpie-lark or more commonly called a Peewee :)
@jasonm3699
@jasonm3699 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaushikNSanji Vanillaflyweight is right - we call them Peewees.
@HexlGaming
@HexlGaming Жыл бұрын
installing multiples is a good idea, actually.
@Branagorn
@Branagorn 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Shane thanks for the video. Quick question, the unorphaned chime, the one after 3 days with no connection. How long does that go on for?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Only a few seconds each 'shake'. Then after about three or four shakes (~30 seconds of chiming) it'll go back to sleep for 12hrs+ and not chime at all when moved.
@Branagorn
@Branagorn 3 жыл бұрын
@@gplama thanks for the info. I’m thinking of putting an air tag on my bike, which I don’t use that often (certainly go more than 3 days between uses), which is kept in my garage which isn’t attached to my home. So a would be thief would have about 30 seconds of beeping to alert him the bike is tagged.
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
@@Branagorn Yep. You can pop the speaker coil out of an Airtag and stop it chirping at all.
@svensett
@svensett 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry if this has already been answered, but is the "ping" range farther or the same as the locating range? In other words does the anonymous iPhone owner have to get within the 30ish foot range for the tag to transmit to the Find My network, or is that distance longer compared to the owner trying to pinpoint the location of the tag?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
This video is indicative of range based on AirTag location. It'd need a lot more testing/time/etc to answer your query specifically.
@marcus_velo_9970
@marcus_velo_9970 3 жыл бұрын
great demonstration!! come on shane lets do a bait bike experiment. park an expensive looking bike in Melbourne and set up some monitoring and let's see how good these tags work in a real scenario. my son left his 10 year old alu/carbon bike in melbourne/brunswick overnight recently ... gone doh, but the real concern is I suspect there are organized thefts using a hand grinder; taking anything they can find left out very frustrating as its usually the people that need bikes to get around that are the ones targeted.
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
I'm all for this.... but there's a few issues. I'm not in Melbourne (and can't even get there at the moment thanks to old mate 'rone). I'm also not willing to put any of my bikes on the line for this test. That'd be an expensive way to turn a few $1000 into $10 in KZfaq revenue. ;) This could be something a bike manufacturer could do and get some publicity with..... or maybe we do it with an old beater and see where it ends up?
@marcus_velo_9970
@marcus_velo_9970 3 жыл бұрын
@@gplama yes maybe once we come out of lockdown. no of course we don't use a good bike, however buy some Colnago stickers paint up bait bike, make it look beach roadish, then as a youtuber would probably need a camera onsite with motion detection, hmm guess a mobile phone for internet, then wait and watch. I suspect the thieve will come by in am hours, so bike should pass. next we covertly descend on location. and I'd bet this character would have so many other bikes in his possession. this is sounding like lamalive from crime scene.
@mrbuddha5263
@mrbuddha5263 3 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking "he's going to slay that magpie then BOOOOOOOM" Not an IOS user but as I keep seeing these airtag videos I'm contemplating the switch. It's about as simple as Wahoo vs Tacx trainers...
@tiffariff
@tiffariff 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon has Amazon sidewalk which is very similar but unfortunately only with WiFi and people tend to hate it with its lesser privacy so there isn’t many users and therefore less likely hood of detection
@Huzz00
@Huzz00 3 жыл бұрын
Subtle and hilarious effect blowing up the Mudlark. More appropriately I'd like to see this done to the swooping Magpies in a future video. Magpie swooping season only a couple of months away here in Victoria.
@liamherman2168
@liamherman2168 3 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering if the one in the stem was just faulty. I was able to get mine to connect in a beefy enduro mountainbike stem and connect and play the noise from 20’ (6m) away. Not the best range but also not impossible if you’re looking to hide it inside the bike and you don’t have a way to access inside the frame. Not sure I’ll go with it but glad I tested myself. Great video, very informative, but everyone should remember to test their own setup before using
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Not faulty. The stem on this bike is a really good Faraday cage.
@liamherman2168
@liamherman2168 3 жыл бұрын
@@gplama good to know. I guess I just got lucky. Again why people should test their own gear. It’s still not great though and after parking it somewhere and walking away without it updating at all, I don’t think I’ll go with this location. Thanks for the video
@ThemenschMusic
@ThemenschMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@liamherman2168 maybe your bike has a carbon stem ? I do have a friend which placed it in the carbon stem and it works pretty well :)
@liamherman2168
@liamherman2168 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThemenschMusic it’s certainly some sort of alloy. My bike is cheap. Not an ounce of carbon on here. But good to consider
@Hichilisthxforspyingonme
@Hichilisthxforspyingonme 2 жыл бұрын
Putting a tracker inside my Segway stem will block the signal. It’s an issue with Bluetooth and the metal of the vehicle blocking it.
@catastrophic82
@catastrophic82 3 жыл бұрын
So in theory you could attach one like a cadence sensor to your crank?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, for sure.
@Unitedflyier
@Unitedflyier 3 жыл бұрын
So after 3 days will it keep chirping? You said only if moved? I’m just thinking of when you go on vacation and leave your bike at home.
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Only if moved. Apple are said to be changing this from 3 days to 8-24hrs (randomised).
@ajmarecki
@ajmarecki 3 жыл бұрын
Does the bottle have water in it? That could affect the range
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
A little. As mentioned in the video, every setup is different. YMMV.
@f0t0b0y
@f0t0b0y 3 жыл бұрын
5:18 Got any chippies?
@nblake101
@nblake101 3 жыл бұрын
I tried the another type "Trackr" before Apple air tags were released, I used them mainly for inserting into my baggage for use at airports and traveling. I found them problematic due to batteries going flat and sometimes app having issues finding the device. I haven't tried the Apple device but if your prone to losing stuff or worried about someone running off with your items as you can set an alarm when the item moves out of range then I would recommend them. Relying on the thief having an iPhone is a not safe way to secure your bicycle in my opinion.
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
They’re not alerted unless they take your bike/tag home. At which point you have more insight into where it has ended up.
@nblake101
@nblake101 3 жыл бұрын
@@gplama Oh ok that’s not helpful, even the new Garmin Edge can perform that function of alerting you when the bike is moved immediately, that function for me is much more valuable as I’m not trusting on relying on apple tag app providing a distant location.
@SteveHuffer
@SteveHuffer 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t rely on the thief having an iPhone, it relies on the thief passing within range of any iPhone (I also wonder if the tags and other devices contribute to this too), just like the other tracking tags. I’ve used Tile and Trackr; the AirTag is by far the best due to reliability and the sheer number of iPhones out there. I’m not familiar with the Garmin system, but I can recommend the AirTag.
@jheronimusbosch999
@jheronimusbosch999 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe stupid question but what kind of cervelo is this? I like it very much.
@gplama
@gplama 2 жыл бұрын
Aspero 🚲👌🏼
@howienordstrom1290
@howienordstrom1290 3 жыл бұрын
I must be a bit slow. Is there a video showing how a cadence sensor mount holds an air tag?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
No video from me in this. I did a Twitter post showing the how-to.
@sebulban
@sebulban 3 жыл бұрын
What Cervelo bike is that? Looks awesome :)
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Aspero. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y81oetyUlaqadIE.html
@davesadrikcole6217
@davesadrikcole6217 2 жыл бұрын
Was your water bottle full of fluid or empty?
@Timtimzi
@Timtimzi 3 жыл бұрын
how is this different from those square tags a few years ago?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
The reach of the Apple Find My network is so so SO much bigger. And they’re also UWB. Details in my previous AirTag video.
@glimtart
@glimtart 3 жыл бұрын
What apps work with the airtags?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Apple ‘Find My’ on iOS and macOS.
@denimblues
@denimblues 3 жыл бұрын
I love Apple products, so I am glad that you produced a video using the Apple AirTag. It would be interesting for you to compare the Apple AirTag with similar products for comparison. For example, I have been thinking about purchasing a "Tile" which depending on which tile you purchase can go from 46m to 122m. I just purchased a bike, so this video has got me thinking about ways to keep it secure. Thanks!
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Tile (and Chipolo) just don't have the same detection rates out in 'the wild'. See my other videos on this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNB8lduq3M_coqM.html and kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9FyeMh33J2dZoE.html
@googlebux
@googlebux 3 жыл бұрын
I have 4 tiles for a couple years(two versions) and they would not be good for a bike because there are not enough tile users to detect your bike. But there are Apple iphones everywhere to help you find your bike! I'm buying some airtags now as I commute everyday. Thank you for the video, Shane!!
@denimblues
@denimblues 2 жыл бұрын
@@gplama Thank you Shane for replying to my earlier comment. I watched the videos suggested and think the Apple AirTag is superior. I don't even know why I would question that! :) So now, to be able to use the Apple AirTag I just have to update my iPhone to X or higher. Great videos, Shane. Thank you for sharing.
@rsrnsrwds
@rsrnsrwds 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if an air tag could be made into a reflector mounted to the frame, handlebar, or seatpost. A thief would never suspect it and it would have the greatest range.
@loganfikrig3897
@loganfikrig3897 2 жыл бұрын
www.etsy.com/listing/998069956/airtag-bike-mount-reflector
@hagglundguy
@hagglundguy 2 жыл бұрын
I think you could 3D-print a spacer with a hole for the Airtag in between the reflector holder and the lens
@carolinamunozbernal1121
@carolinamunozbernal1121 2 жыл бұрын
I have had some trouble getting the airtag out from the little case. Any suggetions?
@gplama
@gplama 2 жыл бұрын
Best talk to Apple. I have no idea what little case you mean sorry.
@pantster9855
@pantster9855 3 жыл бұрын
think we're going to see a lot more alerts of being followed. I've just done a flight and before we had even left a couple of us got a notification on our phones of an airtag moving with us
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting. Who on the flight had the plane location set to their ‘Home’? Either Apple have changed something, or this happens in error.
@pantster9855
@pantster9855 3 жыл бұрын
@@gplama no idea how they work - yet, my order still weeks away from delivery - but we both got notification at the same time.
@HarishChouhan
@HarishChouhan 3 жыл бұрын
Shane which saddle bag do you have on your Cervello?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's a Specialized Mini Wedgie (or something very similar in design)
@Systems1
@Systems1 3 жыл бұрын
Velcro tape and place anywhere.
@Barryens
@Barryens 3 жыл бұрын
Could you fit one under the rubber hood on the shifter, or would it be too obvious?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
The AirTags are too large for this.
@hongziyang
@hongziyang 3 жыл бұрын
That is where I have mine at the moment. It bulbs out a bit, but I’m surprised how little I notice out riding.
@cristibaluta
@cristibaluta 3 жыл бұрын
There is some space between the shifter and the handlebar right below the mounting ring but not enough, it might work if you remove the electronics from the airtag. But what if you place it on the shifter area but inside of the drop and cover with the handlebar tape?
@bushanliger
@bushanliger 3 жыл бұрын
Would the stem one work better if it was a carbon stem??
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe. I don’t own one to test.
@UloPe
@UloPe 3 жыл бұрын
Carbon is conducive as well, so probably almost as bad as a metal stem.
@KaushikNSanji
@KaushikNSanji 3 жыл бұрын
I feel many thieves would have seen this video by now or maybe in the future. Now, they will steal those Tags instead of the bike. (Just kidding)
@obtugtxivtub
@obtugtxivtub 2 жыл бұрын
Base on the testing, if the unit is obstructed, reception would not be so good. Wonder how the reception be if you are inside a building like a store.
@gplama
@gplama 2 жыл бұрын
It's all about proximity to an iDevice. If someone in the store or building nearby has an iPhone/etc, the location will be updated.
@Durgemonger
@Durgemonger 3 жыл бұрын
If you have a wide enough back wheel remove tire and inner tube and tape tag to inside of rim then refit tire and inner tube.
@shawnhunt2332
@shawnhunt2332 Жыл бұрын
i have a 4 inch wide tire but I would not do that . I don't think it good for tracking system spinning around and around is gonna throw off readings. All this, I'm not positive , so something to look into.
@Alleswasichwill1969
@Alleswasichwill1969 Жыл бұрын
if you stick the AirTag on the rim, the wheel gets a strong imbalance, which certainly has an impact on driving comfort and driving safety
@cannon1156
@cannon1156 3 жыл бұрын
So someone steals your bike and puts it in a garage? Not trackable because of the walls?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
It depends. If the thief or anyone within close proximity has an iPhone you'll know exactly where it is. I'm picking up B2 and B4 right now through two walls (the bike is in the garage).
@stevefraser7501
@stevefraser7501 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. This clarified some of the questions I had following your first video on the use of airtags to track a bike. I've seen elsewhere someone suggesting to attach an airtag to the underside of the saddle using velcro. Based on your experience, do you think the velcro would be a good long term solution?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Underside of the saddle would likely be better than where I had B4 jammed into the metal seat post collar.
@krimoll
@krimoll 2 жыл бұрын
Saddle will often be replaced... Just saying.
@MrJonnyb120
@MrJonnyb120 3 жыл бұрын
What about using it to find your car in a parking lot?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
You'd be better off dropping a pin on a map on your phone when you pull up.
@coachrobwille4176
@coachrobwille4176 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you forgot to install the Aerobars :)
@sergiodibartolomeo4601
@sergiodibartolomeo4601 2 жыл бұрын
is it possible to track it also with an Apple iPad ? Or only iPhone ?
@gplama
@gplama 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the iPad has the Find My app too.
@1Keymaker
@1Keymaker 3 жыл бұрын
The best solution is to paint the Airtag to match your bike and then use double tape and tape it on the body of your bike. If someone takes your bike they’re not going to be looking for trackers.
@dndjxnskdbajd4561
@dndjxnskdbajd4561 2 жыл бұрын
they probably will when stashing it, if it’s a nice bike
@BestWishesWarmestRegards
@BestWishesWarmestRegards 2 жыл бұрын
Can you fasten it with strong hold glue? Will the glue damage it?
@pault477
@pault477 3 жыл бұрын
Does it work through aluminum frames?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Something to try.
@LarsCharmerJorgensen
@LarsCharmerJorgensen 3 жыл бұрын
The frame could act as a Faraday cage, shielding the outsider World from the radio signal.
@Mangold108
@Mangold108 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT ABOUT THE BEEP NOISE?
@pault477
@pault477 3 жыл бұрын
Did it work through the mailbox?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
It was beeping, so yes. The range wasn't all that great.
@CapybaraCM
@CapybaraCM 3 жыл бұрын
Wish you would’ve stuck with the seat post re-aquire attempt. The acquiring of signal is IMO, the standard since that will be how we find out when and where the bike is after “misplacing” it. Overall though, 5 stars and a big thank you for fiddling around and saving us all a lot of time. Was planning on the stem placement before this video so again, thanks🙏🏼
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