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In an alternative universe Doug DeMuro is installing Linux on an old Ford Escort.

Thank you for the video! We've added detection for older AMD GPUs and automatically apply the kargs you needed so others that follow your lead won't have to do it themselves. It'll be available in the next Bazzite release.

Always good to see Fedora saving old machines (either directly from us or from our downstreams, collaboration is great)!

This machine needs its own Linux distro, and they could call it Trash Can OS. 😂

It's really cool to see *Linux* gaming PC's becoming a thing now. I hope people keep making these sort of videos!

Sometimes when you get those Vulkan errors its worth using an older version of Proton. I found Proton 6 to be the most compatible across the board.

12:30 for proton, if you are running older games, you have to configure winetricks to support 32bit. By default proton is configured for 64bit. You can have both loaded and it will choose the dependency for the game.

Thanks for showing off Bazzite! As someone who's followed the project closely, it's lovely to see people using it

Like those "Trash to Treasure" type videos except you only do it through software and it's still a physical trashcan in the end.

The MacPro "Trashcan" is a design-marvel. I like it very much.

Pretty sure Fedora disabled amdgpu BECAUSE it's flaky with Vulcan. Have a similar setup with a 7970 XT and while pretty fast for the era the API support just never seems to have materialized. Excited to see what the coming Action Retro solutions are!

9:30 Tip: In Bash two exclamation marks represent the last command that you (tried to) run. So instead of using the command history to get the command back, getting the cursor back to the front of the command and then adding "sudo", you can simply type "sudo !!" instead.

"Oft-maligned tube of hubris" is so perfect for this ridiculous contraption. LOL

Thanks for mentioning Bazzite. I've been looking at a few different versions of SteamOS for my game cabinet and so far they all have their own issues that keep me looking for a replacement. Hopeful that it will feel better to me than HoloISO, winesapOS, and ChimeraOS have felt.

I have a feeling we are going to experience some trashcan shenanigans

I love trash macs, waiting for the day they become too useless for daily use so i can convert mine to a planter lmao

I purchased a 2013 Pro a few years ago, strictly as a project computer to upgrade. It was a beautiful device and challenging but enjoyable to work on. I was fortunate enough to sell it before the M1s hit the market or I would never have gotten back any of the money I put into it. I think what I miss the most, and this is true of all the Intel Macs, is the ability to run BootCamp because I have several Windows apps that Apple doesn't have an adequate replacement for. Sure, I can run it on Parallels, but it won't support old 32-bit apps..

Honestly, I use one of these as my main computer (I'm using it right now) and they're great. Severely underestimated.

@ 0:35 in: clever reference to Doug DeMuro! I watch his videos often.

For New Vegas, you'll need a fork of Proton. Not sure what it's called, but I got it to work by enabling that version for New Vegas specifically.

That is one of the most USB usb devices you could have chosen. I love it!

One of my favorite designs. I recently upgraded mine to an 8 core cpu and repasted the gpus. I have it running Ventura.

Really nice meeting you at VCF Midwest today and thanks for the stickers!

The Doug score part got me good.

"Silky smooth!" visible tearing

Can amd crossfire be enabled in Linux to get those cards to at a minimum share their ram.

The big problem is that the cooling system inside is just not strong enough to keep it cool when under heavy load and that causes premature failure of the GPU(s).

The Trashcan, is the reason Mac Pro 5.1's held their value for a decade. It was Apple's biggest Eff You to the Pro User. It's also why most Avid workstations suddenly became Windows PCs. Anything that used PCIe cards, the Trashcan wasn't bought.

I like how this thing was panned for its lack of upgradeability as a professional machine when it was launched, yet it is still infinitely more upgradeable than whatever Apple is trying to sell these days.

It's funny to think that this Mac became Mac Studio and people love it

Thank you for resurrecting the under appreciated trash can. I can’t wait to see what you do next!😊

It’s funny since I just recently got a 12 core and 64gb ram model for 180 since and I quote “it does not display when turned on” as soon as I got it I plugged it in and turned it on and it displayed just fine, it has been running Ubuntu and a minecraft server for quite a while lol.

That Doug DeMuro reference caused me to finally subscribe after watching you here and there for a few months.

I had a weird issue on my main Manjaro Linux PC where some games don't launch with Proton experimental, but they do launch with older versions of Proton. I'm guessing you probably attempted multiple versions of Proton though.

I got a 6-core in July for $250! I always wanted one and with the recent price drop I jumped at it! I’m using is as a daily driver… despite having a base model M2 Pro MBP 😂 It should get security updates for another year so why not enjoy it (or put Linux like this video, or Windows on it) For the price it’s a decent machine for that user who might need multiple monitors. Maybe like a lower-range power user.

Great video! I came for the old MACs and stayed for the Linux shenanigans

That CPU upgrade was fun. So worth it. Can't wait for that video.

Sick Kaonashi shirt dude, also sweet vid. That was a great use bazzite, will have to try this out myself.

I've been rocking the Trashcan Mac until last year, I did try to use Linux on it before getting my current system however I was having graphical issues in Steam, Shadow, and in some games. The GPU driver fix at 08:12 was probably what I was looking for!

I've got one of these. When it came out my tower Mac Pro was starting to get near the end of its lifecycle. I didn't really like the non-expandible form factor, but I did have a move coming up so it actually was a convenient time to downsize my desktop. Served me well for 6 years. Since OS/X no longer supports it (and I have enough other Apple hardware that I don't need it for that role anymore) I've tried various Linux distros on it. Currently it's just being used to test some stuff on Debian/unstable. Unfortunately display wake-up hasn't been reliable... Might be because it has an old 30" monitor connected via the Apple active mini-DP to DVI converter. I should try it with a newer monitor I guess, but then I don't know what purpose I'd have for that 30"er since nothing else I own can output dual-link DVI. I'll look at trying the other AMD driver. I'm not gaming or anything on it so I don't really care about GPU performance but maybe it will be more reliable on wake-up

Im not a apple fan but i really wanted one of these and still do love the look of it and how small and compact it is

I'm running Ventura 13.5.1 on my 2013 Pro with 3 monitors. It is running very well. Like the video, though. Always looking at new options!

You should get a Grouch muppet to put next to the Trashcan - he would be a natural. Call it the Grouch OS.

I installed ublue the other day! There is something I really like about immutable Linux distros. Really stable, and if something does break you can just boot in to the last state. Want to switch out desktop environment? Sure rebase to another image and reboot, now you have a different OS with all your files and Flatpak apps still intact!

Linux gaming has come a long way over the last 7ish years. I have switched over completly

oh effing hell that bit at the start had me cracking up!

I wish they would have used this design for a midrange consumer grade machine instead. It would have good for that.

That was legit awesome, gave me vibes of the keynote where Steve Jobs showed the Mac playing PlayStation games for the first time.

I actually like the trashcan, I know its got a lot of issues but its sentimental to me.

Fantastic! It’ll be awhile before that Mac Pro will ever go obsolete under Linux especially considering the fact that the GPU has supported by open source drivers (of course the AMDGPU driver being the best of what’s available). I’m willing to bet you could use a dedicated GPU via thunderbolt or perhaps the M.2 PCIE slot that it has (that some have used for NVME SSDs).

Got this going in my ears while I hang headers on my mustang. Love your channel!

I love my 2013 trashcan Mac Pro, which I've upgraded with a 1 TB NVMe SSD and 64 GB of RAM, and I keep it at MacOS 10.14 Mojave. Mojave is a relatively modern and well-supported version of MacOS, but still has legacy 32-bit application support. Recently, I had a great time replaying Deus Ex: Human Revolution on my trashcan. Most of my vintage Intel Macs run Mojave, and I believe that if your Mac can still run Mojave, you should keep it there (or run a second partition with Mojave) for legacy app support. I have two Mac Pros: my 2013 trashcan, and my heavily-upgraded 2010 cheesegrater, which has a 3.46 six-core CPU (up from a 2.8 GHz quad-core), 48 GB of RAM, a 2 TB NVMe SSD in a glowing PCIe adapter, an RX 580 graphics card, a Blu Ray drive, a USB-C card and a FireWire 400 card.

i think proton doesnt work for some titles because the vulkan the hardware supports is too old and proton uses calls of a newer vulkan. You can go around it if you try to install older or a lot older versions of proton/wine and or try to use opengl instead of vulkan. Then it might work. PS: i had the same issue when i used the gtx 770.

The title you gave this video is the absolute BEST KZfaq video title that I've ever seen.

This is a very exciting build. What GPU options do you have?

Just picked one up for the last days in Monterey but hoping for full Arch to come to this gem - and use a laptop cooler to prevent a space heater

Tube of Hubris... Tube-ris... I'm sorry.

I've been using this thing as a homelab for a few months now 64 GB of ECC DDR3 quad channel is a steal

You had me at "oft-maligned tube of hubris"

Burst out laughing when i saw the title and had to check this out. Well played lol!

I play all my games on Linux these days I have yet to find a game I can't get to run . some require a little tinkering and figuring out which version of proton to work . I don''t think I have booted into windows for over a year. I love that Linux can bring new life to old equipment that might otherwise find its way to the landfill

When I saw the intro to the video, I knew why acting is such a difficult profession

I’m a sucker for youtuber callouts but man I love it when my nerdy computer content calls out my car nerdy content

Loved that DeMuro reference!

Macbook pro fan or mbpfan is an app that i install on debian based distros to control the fan curve on Apple devices. autostarts with the system once installed and can be edited to keep th temps in check as well as can be with the limited cooling provided.

the FirePro D700 is running on GCN 1.0 architecture, which does not support DXVK 2.0 and Vulkan 1.3. you need to run an older version of Proton, or use a custom version that does not use DXVK 2.0

Cool vid. I bet the upgrades will help maybe the gpu cards can get the dosdude treatment 😀or maybe another upgrade is out there

I have Ubuntu running on a 2013 mac mini just for web browsing and stuff, still works just fine.

I think I need a hamster mouse.

I LOLd at the immediate several days later! Neat project!

Rofl, I really laughed at that "several days later" cut 🤣

I haven't seen the trash can in about 4.5 years when i got to work on one for a lab at nasa. They are even worse to work on when enforcing government security standards.

The only product that Apple ever made that truly signifies the true spirit of their company and the products they sell...🤣

The Doug Score bit got an instant like out of me. Thanks for the laugh!!

for editing kernel arguments i suggest to use rpm-ostree kargs instead of manually editing grub

What TV do you use? I'm just curious because the style of it looks exactly like that of my living room, and it seems a little older so it'd be cheaper nowadays. Thx and great vid btw. Model number would be nice.

I have three of these things for whatever ducking reason… love ‘em

I'm thinking about picking up a refurbished trashcan and plugging it into my razer core x egpu for better graphical power. Would it be feasible to opt for a more recent release of ubuntu or mint and just run the steam app?

I’m unable to get my Mac Pro to boot from USB. I’ve tried numerous key combinations during boot, and I’ve even tried multiple USB discs along with different OS. But I’m happy for you, really.

I actually like the tube style form factor, though it unfortunately is very unpractical if it comes to installing hardware: The cooling principle is quite clever, due to the fan positioning at least potentially quite silent, it doesn't take all that much free space and the aesthetics are quite good compared to the simple mindcraft style blocks we are used too otherwise. Personally I prefer something even smaller that can stand on more than one end though, such as the ASRock Deskmeet X300 or a Minis Forum UM690 ... .

Having bought one of these mac Pros for ~$550 this year, it's kind of a boondoggle. It has way too many Thunderbolt 2 ports - and a lot of T2 hardware is getting hard to find. The best upgrade I found is a T2 docking station with an eSATA port that will allow a 4-bay Probox for ZFS. I don't care if it runs the latest MacOS though as long as Monterey is supported for a few more years. FYI you can also upgrade disk capacity pretty easily with a couple of USB3 Samsung T7s. And you can have 2.5Gig network with a USB3 adapter as well. Beyond that it's probably not cost-effective to upgrade beyond 32GB of RAM and maybe replacing the internal SSD with a faster model

The favorite thing I love about you tubers is how they make polls. And then they decide to not go with the answer that wins. 😂

i recently saw one of these for 800€ and it was definetly not a great deal for a Trashcan mac

To run the last command you run using sudo, instead of retyping the whole thing, you can run "sudo !!" instead. This is known as "sudo bang bang"

Note: it is stated that the memory is max 64 GB. This is incorrect: maximum it is 128 GB memory. My maxed out Mac Pro has 2xD700 + 128 GB + 12 core XEON.

Thanks for the how-to video. I have a Late-2013 Mac Pro with 6-core Intel Xeon E5 that I would like to install Bazzite on. When I go to the Bazzite web site and attempt to download the .iso image, the "select hardware type" pull-down menu says: "coming soon" for Apple Hardware. Where can I find the correct .iso image?

This is surprisingly similar in a sense to my old HP Pavillion which has an Athlon64 and is running Batocera Linux. Granted the HP is pretty bland looking and the Nvidia video card has a case fan attached to it with zip ties just to stay cool without the buzzy onboard fan, but it can run almost anything, including Wolfenstein N64 😉 Not bad for a mid 2000's computer.

This will be a great use for my 6,1 when it's not my main machine. It's a 3.0 8C, 64GB, 1TB, D700 as original. Got a screaming deal when it was on clearance when the 2019 MP was released.

Our college had one of these and I hated it, it kernel panicked and corrupted a Premier Project, and I had to ask for an extension and remake the whole project on my glacially slow laptop instead.

I still have one because it is upgradable and I am able to run it as a VMWare ESXi host with a whole virtual network of guest virtual machines (including macOS, Linux, and Windows) running on it.

You should compare the performance to the steam deck, And if you click Xbox and A at the same time the side menu will pop up use the on screen overlay when gaming to show temps and everything else. Great video keep up the fantastic work!

Cool Project. Like to see what else the "trash can" can do.

I ADORE Linux running on Macs. My 2011 Mac Mini runs Arco Linux with MOST of the different window managers installed (I gravitate towards the floating window managers...). It also dual-boots into Debian with Cinnamon desktop when I'm just relaxing... My M1 Mac Mini runs Asahi Linux beautifully. Subjectively, apps seem more quick-reacting in Linux than in native macOS Ventura. Looking forward to more Linux-on-Apple adventures.

5:55 Spots on the upper left corner of the video looked like dirt on my monitor when I saw it...

It would look good with a custom circular screen on top scrolling images or displaying stats.

I'm debating on weather to do this on my 2011 21.5 iMac or just keep OpenCore Legacy Patcher with Ventura.

Would it be possible to change the GPUs for external ones using extensions? 🤔

Very nice! I'll be playing around with Linux and Steam too.

That thing looks absolutely baller without its case! A clear case would be awesome