In celebration of Richard Feynmans birthday, this video goes over a method of integration not invented by him, but still one of his favorites!
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@astropartydan6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for giving Feynman props. In “Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman”, Feynman talks about how he was always the integral guy at MIT, Princeton, and while working for Manhattan Project at Los Alamos. It came from his unique tool box of math tricks he learned from “Advanced Calculus” by Woods, which his HS physics teacher forced him to read since he was too talkative in class (because he was bored).
@suvajitdey11014 жыл бұрын
I today read about it and rush to KZfaq to search for this this method...
@bilalhussein97304 жыл бұрын
@@suvajitdey1101 Read Smirnov's Course of Higher Mathematics Volume 2. It explains generally about integrals dependent on a parameter. Justifying the method rigorously requires the dominated convergence theorem but for applications no one bothers checking convergence.
@suvajitdey11014 жыл бұрын
@@bilalhussein9730 thank you friend.
@ulfatahmad13542 жыл бұрын
AA
@JewJon086 жыл бұрын
I screamed out with joy when the natural logs canceled... it's a habit.
@yourlordandsaviouryeesusbe29985 жыл бұрын
@Intelligence Injection lmfao 😂😂😂😂
@hiagoalves1985 жыл бұрын
me too. I felt like those girls reacting to kpop hahaha
@knightvertrag5 жыл бұрын
Surprised you don't have throat cancer.
@TheGoldenutz4 жыл бұрын
All engineering students feel your excitement 😂
@cansomer64334 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Emirates15984 жыл бұрын
Lab partner: We need to calculate this integral asap! Me: Nah bro, just use the Simpson method.
@GammaFZ3 жыл бұрын
or taylor approximate and then use the power rule
@kalebbruwer5 жыл бұрын
I finished his book "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman" less than an hour ago, he mentions this in the book, so finding this in my recommendations was a pleasant surprise.
@imonmahbub95152 жыл бұрын
This video just made my integral life wayyyyyy much easier. Also really thanks to Sir Feynman!
@chadwaldron35682 жыл бұрын
Took Calc 50 years ago but I could still follow this. One of my profs said Calc will stay with you all of your life. I'm amazed.
@AndrewDotsonvideos2 жыл бұрын
Like riding a bike? That’s awesome !
@pabloAT985 жыл бұрын
I have been a subscriber of you for a few months now. I was reading "surely you're joking Mr Feynman" and got to the chapter where he talks about this thing I hadn't been taught, so I decided to google it and found a video of you explaining it! Haha cheers from a physics student in Chile!
@NazriB2 жыл бұрын
Lies again? Google Drive
@MisterPeanutButter14 жыл бұрын
This is so awesome! Feynman describes using this technique in 'Surely You're Joking'. I was very curious to what that technique was, even asked some teachers, but I never did find out. I very happy to finally know the approach!
@noway28314 жыл бұрын
I love that I can finally understand one of your videos. Whenever you talk about nabla this and nabla that I have no clue what you're saying, but when you talk about pure maths everything clicks.
@KeithJones-yq6of Жыл бұрын
Great video, Mr Maths. Feynman was a genius physicist and probably one of the best teachers of science at every level EVER! He will live on forever
@lesnyk2554 жыл бұрын
I was never taught this method, and was completely unaware of its existence until I watched blackpenredpen integrate sinc(x) over the non-negative domain. It was a revelation! I love this method, it is sooooo cool!
@gavinriley52324 жыл бұрын
Andrew you are my savior. I have spent hours trying to figure this out from professors notes for the final and you explained this amazingly
@pipertripp6 жыл бұрын
That's badass. A very cool technique to be sure. I'll have to find to practice examples to try it out on. Thx for sharing it.
@gamma_dablam4 жыл бұрын
sin(x)/x
@johnishikawa22002 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Even though I am rusty with calculus, I can still appreciate the elegance of this method, and maybe this is just what I need to motivate me to jump back into this material with both feet!
@restitutororbis9646 жыл бұрын
Isnt this practically just the Leibniz Integral rule?
@AndrewDotsonvideos6 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@tauhid99835 жыл бұрын
@@Rahul-cb4jb Nah u don't get to say that!
@roshanrajshah58175 жыл бұрын
@@Rahul-cb4jb Fraud is very harsh word.
@randomdude91354 жыл бұрын
@@Rahul-cb4jb Physicists always like to take the credit of Mathematicians. Poor Leibniz isn't given as much credit for inventing calculus as Newton is. Eventhough both did indptly.
@allaincumming63134 жыл бұрын
Leibniz rule isn't normally taught. Feynman popularized it because he studied it from a book of an MIT professor, and he became locally famous among physics students for solving integrals that can't be solved by the normal taught methods.
@ottod.g.6660 Жыл бұрын
I remember looking at this years ago - thinking it made no sense at all. I looked at it again today after being introduced to "Differentiation Under The Integral Sign" in my PDE class and gosh....it feels so good to understand how the heck this works.
@AndrewDotsonvideos Жыл бұрын
Such a good feeling. I used to watch videos way above what I could understand just because it was exciting to see what was around the corner. But then once you do understand it, for some reason it gets so easy to forget what was so hard about it for you in the first place. Do you remember what was unclear your first time around? Asking so I can put myself in those shoes better next time.
@ottod.g.6660 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewDotsonvideos I keep doing that continuously - even if you don't understand something clearly, at the very least you build up some familiarity. Well, I think what really confused me back then was how you re-defined the integral and how you jumped to differentiate it with a partial derivative. [Keep in mind that back then I only got exposed to Calculus I and was going on to Calculus II, so I had no idea what a partial derivative was]. I think you skipped one step (which is pretty obvious now but wasn't as obvious then to me - is more of a notation issue, I guess, since you do mention that you're differentiating g(x)) and that was how differentiating w.r.t. "x" can initially be written as d/dt Integral{0 to 1} (t^x-1)/ln(t) dt = Integral{0 to 1} partial(d)/partial(d)x (t^x-1)/ln(t) dt That was the only confusion I had really, the rest of it was just needed practice with integrals. Also, I really really appreciate your response and consideration - your videos have inspired me a lot on my path to staying in Physics. :)
@listentome55834 жыл бұрын
Bro your handwriting is beautiful. Especially your “d”s
@yousiftop76052 жыл бұрын
a year ago, i watched this vid and understood nothing (cuz was dumb). still dumb but with some more knowledge and the video was so helpful. thank you andrew.
@wumichael4874 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy when you just take a step back, and everything becomes so easy and clear.
@AmigoRigo5 жыл бұрын
Because you're so serious in your jokes, being serious here makes me think you're joking
@davidrittenhouse17744 жыл бұрын
Surely you're joking, Mr. Dotson!
@sandipanchatterjee59654 жыл бұрын
😜Good one
@danielburgess71013 жыл бұрын
There was something really satisfying about your marker pens. Keep that up and you’ll have a fan for life.
@humzahkhan62993 жыл бұрын
My teacher was one of Feynman’s first students. It’s cool to see this video recommended like this. I have an exam tmrw wish me luck guys.
@rajendramisir35305 жыл бұрын
Andrew Dotson, I like this integral you chose to demonstrate Dr. Richard Feyman"s technique. I admire the way you explained here in a clear, timely and patient manner. Thanks Andrew and Dr. Feyman.
@vangrails5 жыл бұрын
And Leibniz, because Leibniz invented this.
@WizardCell4 жыл бұрын
You made my day! The method looks amazing. We learned it in class, but never understand it right as I did here! Thank you!
@pokechao1965 жыл бұрын
I was never taught this, so it's nice to finally learn this technique. I think there are some integrals I need to retry now...
@aniruddhadatta80985 жыл бұрын
Same here
@Alan_Clark6 жыл бұрын
I have seen several videos of this technique on KZfaq, but this is the clearest! Thanks.
@ComarLantern4 жыл бұрын
I just found out this video 2 years later after it was uploaded and i am hopefully going to go to university next year to study physics. I have been watching your content for a while but i never went into the math videos because i am only graduating highschool and i only know how to integrate and how to take derivative of a function. I havent taken calculus but in Turkey our education system in highschool is a little bit harder. We take beginners level QM (basically starting from bohr and ending with coumpton event and debroglie wavelenght but no complex math we just learn the formulas and the philosophy behind them.), we take organic chemistry which was almost university level but now they simplified it a lot idk why it used to be like that glad that i didnt have to go through that lol. And we end math class with chamber analytics after we learn integral. Well as much as i know it was calculus level before but it was simplified couple of years ago. So i only knew integration techniques and ya know how to find an area under a function and some simple problems with integration/derivation. I dont know how to get an integral of natural log so i was curious about the video because those parts were cut out from our education system few years ago as i said. Soooo you didnt really need to know these but i just wanted to tell because i wanted you to know that i wasnt really at this level yet (even though its basic and i know some of it from my own research apart from school) and i really really enjoyed the video. You explained it really well and this was uploaded on feynmans bday unironically. I ejaculated after the ln(t)s disabled each other (jk jk). Thanks andrew, i love your videos! Greetings from Turkey!
@Strange_Quarks4 жыл бұрын
i love how i've watched this 3 times but still don't fully understand it yet
@TheAnbyrley4 жыл бұрын
That was a great explanation of the method. Good work!
@malenno96415 жыл бұрын
Math tricks like these are so cool. Thanks for the video
@ChristAliveForevermore2 жыл бұрын
Richard Feynman made this tidbit of advanced calculus quite famous. I printed out the PDF of Advanced Calculus which he used back then and lo and behold it was in there!
@nexus3112 Жыл бұрын
Watching him make sure the equation for integrating a to the power x was right multiple times in his head to make the vdo in one take was hilarious 😂
@Dexfire204 жыл бұрын
Our university SQU recommends your video for independent learning 👍🏻
@jakedones20994 жыл бұрын
I love it. It is so nice. You differentiate with one variable and integrate with the same variable. I don't care who made it. It's genius
@theprince116 жыл бұрын
Sup! That was a really good explanation. Can you please provide some more examples of where we can apply this kinda technique?
@AlchemistOfNirnroot5 жыл бұрын
Wtf just happened... Feel like the education system has been holding back *history channel alien music starts*
@piyushpatil46792 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite technique.
@meralsenses13763 жыл бұрын
It was fun. I really enjoy watching it and I am going to watch it again. Thanks🙏😊
@capitalist_cosmonaut4512 жыл бұрын
Thanks this is a great video on how to do Feynman integration really appreciate it.
@edd. Жыл бұрын
I love that technique!!! Great presentation!!
@SK-qc2hb3 жыл бұрын
T is the thing we will use to exploit the integral. WITH RESPECT TO T.
@duncanw99016 жыл бұрын
Great! Can you talk about this being a special case of the Leibniz rule for integration?
@zokalyx6 жыл бұрын
yes I would really like that.
@albertrichard3659 Жыл бұрын
Poor Leibniz keeps on getting his stuff stolen by physicists. First Newton and calculus and now Feynman and DUTIS.
@cottawalla3 жыл бұрын
One of the better explanations. Thanks.
@akankshasingh57496 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video and I love this method.Thank you.
@billfeatherstone3018 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again very calm explanation is easy to absorb 😎😍
@paulwirkus41825 жыл бұрын
i honestly love your beard.
@rmsvideos13356 жыл бұрын
Does it work for indefinite integrals?
@goose59965 жыл бұрын
yeah for the last steps instead of subbing in the bounds to find g'(x), you need leave the integral as it is ((t^(x+1))/(x+1)), then integrate that with respect to x. whatever that comes out to be would be your indefinitely integral.
@tedsheridan87255 жыл бұрын
@@goose5996 Not exactly an easy integral to take. The problem in video only works out nicely because the limits are 0 and 1. For other values the exponent stays and g'(x) is no longer an elementary integral.
@Soulheavenx5 жыл бұрын
It would be easier because you won’t have the upper and lower integral and you’ll have a constant in the end
@simohayha60314 жыл бұрын
@@goose5996 mostly only works if you have actual values in your integral sign. I saw one today integral from 0 to infinity of cos(5x)e^(-x^2) and it only worked using knowledge that 0 to inf of gaussian is sqrt pi/2. The actual primitive function involves error functions etc. This technique basically is a way to go around of non elementary functions to evaluate it to a number
@joryjones68084 жыл бұрын
Ted Sheridan I think the problem might be with is example because Integral( 1/ln(x)) aka Li(x) is a non elementary function.
@spencergee69482 жыл бұрын
Talking at the camera (mike) and then at the board is like the scene from 'Singing in the Rain'!
@weird4076 жыл бұрын
I have never seen this, but I remember applying something like this when I got stuck. Nice to know how it is formally done!
@sungod9797 Жыл бұрын
Our advanced calculus professor gave us almost the exact same integral for one of our quizzes lol. It was integral from 0 to 1 of (x^2-1)/lnx, which is basically g(2) for g as defined in your video lol. So the final answer ended up being ln(2+1) = ln3 as the final answer.
@111thisguy8 ай бұрын
my calc 2 professor knew this would be too powerful to teach this
@EngMorvan2 жыл бұрын
I love this method. 💙
@fernandogarciacortez49114 жыл бұрын
Awesome! After finishing calc I wanted to know some other methods, and since I always study physics, Feynman's was always mentioned in some of my books.
@dr.rahulgupta75733 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation of the topics in a beautiful manner. Thanks.DrRahul Rohtak Haryana India
@claudefazio2 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!
@markdatton13484 жыл бұрын
Bro I'm in calc 2 and we just finished trig sub and did by parts, and I kind of knew vaguely about this but not really, and now I'm about to watch all the lectures cause that was neat
@Emirates15984 жыл бұрын
Calc 2 also in here! 😆 Well, if your semester isn't already over (-__-)
@sss-ol3dl6 жыл бұрын
I tried it myself but used [(t^3 - 1) t^x]/ln(t) as the integrand. You get the same answer but have to consider g(x) as x approaches infinity to get the integrating constant. :)
@datitaniumduck9620 Жыл бұрын
Im probably late, but thanks for the vid bro, this helped me learn about Feynman's technique to integrate. It is out of portions for me currently, but it is interesting nonetheless.
@TranquilSeaOfMath8 ай бұрын
You did a nice job explaining this.
@AndrewDotsonvideos8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@paulboard82216 жыл бұрын
You should do a review of the looks at the met gala it'll be fun
@nathanryan12 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating technique
@subnow48624 жыл бұрын
Woah! Nice vid. Thanks for showing this method of integration.
@remixex3694 жыл бұрын
Something confused me, 7:21 why is g(x=0) the integral of 0 to 1 of 0dt?? Wouldnt it be the integral of -1/ln(t) from 0 to 1? Since you are replacing X not t, also that poses another problem, you are integrating the function for t=0 on a ln(t) which would be undefined, and also t^0 would also be undefined... Is it that trivial? Please tell me :(
@MrPetrolhead0074 жыл бұрын
when you put g(x=0) the integrand becomes (t^0 - 1)/ln(t) but t^0 = 1 so the numerator becomes 1 - 1 = 0 so the integral is 0 so g(0)=0
@jam933911 ай бұрын
IM LOVIN THIS❤❤
@unknown360ful6 жыл бұрын
I knew this method too! Thanks for showing it to us! REALLY COOL! HBD FEYNMAN!
@albertobermejo95576 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for these integrals videos they're being very helpful for my 2nd year in physics
@chandlerkenworthy31855 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video and explanation.
@yashuppot32145 жыл бұрын
Assum e=3 and proceed
@sfundomabaso32005 жыл бұрын
Lol
@chymoney16 жыл бұрын
Certainly not in the BC calc curriculum
@mrnarason6 жыл бұрын
well partial derivatives are calc iii and i'm pretty sure BC calc only covers integrals and series.
@chymoney16 жыл бұрын
Victor P. concept of a taking the derivative with respect to x isn’t to daunting after a year of calc
@mrnarason6 жыл бұрын
???
@1999colebug6 жыл бұрын
I'm with you Victor, I don't know what they're talking about. I think they're saying partial derivatives (which they call taking the derivative with respect to x) aren't too daunting if you've taken a year of calc.
@chymoney16 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what im saying
@mertokyay64015 жыл бұрын
Hey man, love ur videos! But I have a question, this integral seems to be a type 2 improper integral. Why didn’t you evaluate as an improper integral?
@cliffordwilliams95974 жыл бұрын
WOW! So beautiful! Thank you!!
@thaitrieu7912 жыл бұрын
Came here once in grade 10 and it was too early. Now I come back and get ready to beat my calc 2 teacher exam
@kseniachernishov19045 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if you'll make a video just solving integrals for a couple of hours :)
@fillashthrownout33092 жыл бұрын
You're they Ryan Reynolds of Mathematics. Keep it simple, that's cool👍
@chamnil86662 жыл бұрын
Great explanation,thank you so much
@mrnogot42512 жыл бұрын
This is why I love integration
@stebz586 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic.
@lnribeiro13 жыл бұрын
Very good. And useful.
@drover74765 жыл бұрын
This was such a class video well in mate
@piboson61414 жыл бұрын
Feynman is greatest physicist of all times.
@michaelsalinger21345 жыл бұрын
Super cool! Easy to follow as well
@JivanPal2 жыл бұрын
Alternative way of doing the final step (after g' is found) that doesn't require you to find the constant of integration: g(3) = g(0) + \int_{0}^{3} { g'(x) dx }.
@rwalkos6 жыл бұрын
That was actually really cool and haven't come across this yet.
@Goldslate733 жыл бұрын
This is happiness
@jackdusch88962 жыл бұрын
Gonna try this Electrostatics
@APAstronaut3333 жыл бұрын
Wow that was so amazing
@nosferatu55006 жыл бұрын
Richard Feynman is my favourite physicist
@fogger99982 жыл бұрын
Thanks man That helps a lot
@haryr_Ай бұрын
Could you have dealt with the logarithmic function in the denominator instead, and could have gotten to the same answer via Feynman’s method
@Bri-mv8wv4 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to learn how to do this!
@ramazandurmaz30124 жыл бұрын
Very clear!
@yeetholmes6194 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@nacharrobinson95014 жыл бұрын
You just gained a subscriber
@AlbinoJedi5 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting. Never seen that before.
@yoavwilliamson33785 жыл бұрын
Interesting method! Very cool thx bro
@achalanand22133 жыл бұрын
Actually Feynman did not invent this technique , this technique was mentioned in an unpopular book of Integrals in Feynman's time, he was lucky to find it.
@limitededition14853 ай бұрын
Didn't get why we put 0 to get c
@Bronoulli4 жыл бұрын
Dude. Please do more videos like this
@marvelousthetheoreticalphy65404 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@ps32655 жыл бұрын
I know the original integration went from 0 to 1 interval... Is this interval baked into the g'(x) and/or g(x) functions? I know the initial condition was used when he plugged in x=0, but I'm not sure when the end of the interval, i.e. 1, was used. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.