AMD: "When your enemy is making a mistake don't interrupt them."
@Ring0--Ай бұрын
Eeriely close to Art of War.
@TopJoo7Ай бұрын
Zao Ti Zoo
@koloblicin4599Ай бұрын
*"don't IRQ them"
@Ring0--Ай бұрын
@@koloblicin4599 You old bastard! You used to use jumpers on circuit boards. /I kinda miss that amount of control 😔
@Cyril29aАй бұрын
@@koloblicin4599 Very nice
@younglord6620Ай бұрын
Ai not mentioned🎊🎉🍾
@gr.4380Ай бұрын
thank god
@moamber1Ай бұрын
f-AI-lure rate
@JkaninteangemittnamnАй бұрын
They used their Ai and it lied to them - this is just what expected greed makes shortcut and all those genous were fooled by what they call "ai" Guess next Intel wants to push same Ai design on all Intelchips so everyone can experince the same experience as Intel - Good times
@fus3nАй бұрын
if you listen carefully at 0:14 he says "and" which has A and at 0:42 he says "intel" which has I so its AI, so he did mention AI
@LuisSierra42Ай бұрын
We are all AI on this cursed day
@Level1TechsАй бұрын
Thanks for the shout out and great rundown!
@rhoharaneАй бұрын
Thanks, youtuber level1techs! jk, hi wendell!
@sanderwrong9106Ай бұрын
Intel: The Boeing of CPUs
@RoboprogsАй бұрын
X86 Max?
@CheffamilyАй бұрын
none has died from their cpus tho…
@eyedlАй бұрын
do they kill whistleblowers too?
@user-cq1gc3nh5eАй бұрын
I love that simply "Boeing" became a derogatory term.
@LiberatedMind1Ай бұрын
@@Cheffamily False, I in fact died last week from their chips.
@KR4FTW3RKАй бұрын
In their desperation to somehow keep up with AMD, Intel has cranked their chips so much they now burn themselves out. Bravo!
@tao4124Ай бұрын
Yes, they won in benchmarks, but, in the long run, they fail terribly.
@sovietunion9131Ай бұрын
10nm vs 5nm. They increased the power to keep up with amd 5nm chips and that's what caused them issue in there. Big mistake... A Very Big Mistake. Let's see what will be the future with Arrow lake (tsmc 3nm or intel 20A)
@KR4FTW3RKАй бұрын
@@tao4124 When I got into building PCs, it was the other way around with AMD pushing their bulldozer-chips to (for the time) ridiculous power levels... but these chips didn't burn out. The Fx-9590 was rated 220 Watts.
@1Grainer1Ай бұрын
@@KR4FTW3RK intel uses over 250, but problem in some cases seems to be cache that was changed between 12 and 13 gen, and 13 gen was 11 month rush job, and 14 gen is just a refresh
@DoctorMandibleАй бұрын
Imagine thinking intel needs to "keep up" with amd. Check their price caps. Like saying the USA needs to "keep up" with Cambodia. I'm sure Cambodia is beautiful and has many nice things. But let's be real. They might lose some sales for these chips. But that's a hiccup for them.
@cyrylnycz2349Ай бұрын
Processor ❌ Bunch of electrons jumping around on a rock✅
@ME0WMEREАй бұрын
what's the difference
@fromagetristeАй бұрын
@@ME0WMERE poetry
@aaaaaa-hh8cqАй бұрын
it's actually accurate
@DekarNLАй бұрын
Bunch of electrons dancing around on sand
@iamvfxАй бұрын
@@DekarNL Sand ❌Bunch of tiny yellow rocks✅
@skurtyyskirtsАй бұрын
I have an i9-14900k and can confirm, this has been a living hell. Web pages randomly crashing, blue screens, and discord dying. This is horrible.
@thathandsomedevil0828Ай бұрын
Switch to AMD, brother.. 😊
@aname-kg3cbАй бұрын
@@thathandsomedevil0828 ah yes smd one of the best semiconductor companies of all time 😃
@akshataaryangamelibrary3645Ай бұрын
@@thathandsomedevil0828'AMD'
@fleecejohnsonnАй бұрын
I'm still willing to give Intel a chance on Arrow Lake because of new 2nm process... but this issue definitely gives me second thoughts.
@PCgamerChannel28 күн бұрын
That sucks, So glad i got the ryzen 7 7800x3d
@IsaLangАй бұрын
Next 15th Gen Intel: "Fire Lake"
@DJdoppIer29 күн бұрын
Chernobyl Lake - "Meltdown Edition"
@warasilawombat29 күн бұрын
Perfectly suited for a fire ship
@thataverageguy82628 күн бұрын
Or Solar Lake
@vasy10124 күн бұрын
Nuclear lake
@JonatasAdoM9 күн бұрын
With the amount of energy and heat they'll evaporate the lake.
@YetAnotherTechRaccoonАй бұрын
"...a bunch of electrons dance on a rock" is so funny, yet accurate it hurts. Building a processor sounds like the hardest job ever. The resulting product is magic to me.
@moonik665Ай бұрын
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
@kirkanos771Ай бұрын
@@moonik665 Caruth R Ekralc
@An_AttemptАй бұрын
I mean, we did figure out how to turn lead into gold a while ago. The problem is that it is very energy intensive and the result is usually radioactive. So turning sand (silica) into something worth more than gold was a close second.
@TheGiuse45Ай бұрын
I study electrical engineering and it's really cool. It's almost an art form at a certain point.
@ashishbarthwal6961Ай бұрын
It's honestly still bonkers to me that we don't have to pay 1000s of dollars to get a chip that can run billions of operations per second with such precision... the absolute ingenuity behind getting this to an affordable price is bloody impressive
@thripnixeАй бұрын
When there's an error when im playing a video game I usually blame Microsoft, now I can blame intel too.
@TyftАй бұрын
I usually never comment, but today I made an exception. Why? Because I want you to know that your comment is really funny, and I after a few minutes still have a smile on my face Keep being badass!
@YIPPY-xf8piАй бұрын
You should blame your mom.
@josiaswando9561Ай бұрын
Videogames usally uses AMD or ARM.
@m.hosseinmahmoodiАй бұрын
@@josiaswando9561 what does that even mean?
@TriknorАй бұрын
@@YIPPY-xf8pifair.
@nathanstein589Ай бұрын
Intel was dead to me the day they integrated the Intel “management engine” on their chips totally outside of the users control. Even Andrew Tanenbaum, who wrote the OS it was built from, has decried it as thinly veiled spyware.
@milanstoyakovАй бұрын
Interesting, but AMD has introduce a similar feature as well?
@thathandsomedevil0828Ай бұрын
What does that do exactly?
@materialknightАй бұрын
@@thathandsomedevil0828 . Nobody knows, but I'm sure its function is to open your device's 4ss-cheeks to Pegasus, why? Because Pegasus is sold for millions of dollars, and it even includes customer service! That business would not be viable if Pegasus depended on a vulnerability (as it's often said) that can be discovered and patched at any moment. That means Pegasus takes advantage of hardware-level backdoors: "Intel Management Engine" (for Intel) and "AMD Secure Technology" (for AMD). Supporting this theory is the fact that the FBI requested computers without any of those backdoors.
@roraFPSАй бұрын
The American government forced them to implement it. It’s a back door for the feds
@deloller2452Ай бұрын
@@milanstoyakov much more limited
@WarAnakin18 күн бұрын
Here's the truth, a little bit of inside info: There is no bad microcode, the mobos are not broken, there are no flaws. The issue is with the CPU's architecture. You see, since the 12th gen intel started including the Efficiency-cores. Now those cores are running on the same bus as the Performance cores. With the last 2 gens (13th and 14th), to keep up with AMD, intel just drastically increased the clocks. This clock increase is severely heating the bus between these chips. It was not designed to run at these frequencies and temperatures, hence the obscene amount of crashes. Intel knows this because the guys from the QA department brought this up to management and management said "Fuck it, let's just milk these last 2-3 years since we are on the verge of releasing the new re-designed series." This is why they avoid doing anything because they know they can't fix and it's why they've been shifting the blame for so long. They are pushing for time. I know the whole story behind it, I simply chose to stay quiet for a long time because of reasons. I advise downclocking to 4.4-4.8ghz and the cpu will operate flawlessly, unless yours is broken after such a long time of running at the high clocks.
@ristopaasivirta9770Ай бұрын
Man I need to start doing that error reporting style... prefix every fatal exception with "User error:"
@oleg4966Ай бұрын
That is only true if the user and the buyer are the same person. In other words, it won't work if you sell B2B.
@snil4Ай бұрын
The way of the linux community
@luccadibenedetto2986Ай бұрын
this has me dead hahahaha Im gonna start implementing this
@alvydasjokubauskas2587Ай бұрын
They put general error and blame the user, when its their error...
@JohnsonUbaezuonuАй бұрын
User error: cannot read name of undefined 😃
@someusername1872Ай бұрын
This has been the best free marketing AMD could've never asked for
@iikatinggangsengii2471Ай бұрын
i do always use intel and always given better than retail unit too, i did buy ryzens on some machines and they all perform very well, great gaming cpus
@danieltanuwijaya7675Ай бұрын
"Our CPUs actually work!"
@anistardiАй бұрын
But still not effective. Because most Intel users are uneducated and denied this facts. That why Intel market share decrease but so slowly.
@uponeric36Ай бұрын
Yup, this is the year (well next year more likely) AMD will completely overtake intel on the desktop, laptop, and server and intel will become the minority share of the market. I could honestly see Intel failing within our lifetime if they keep this up.
@maspoetry119 күн бұрын
Unless they asked for
@melanp4698Ай бұрын
Been playing WoW for 20 years, never had any significant issues. Until i got an insane gaming pc last year with one of those chips. Nearly had to give up playing, crashing every 5 minutes and spent dozens of hours troubleshooting. I defintely believe everything that is being said in this video.
@axjkhl7699Ай бұрын
and you don't regret waisting 20 years of your life playing WoW? 😳
@melanp4698Ай бұрын
@@axjkhl7699 i didnt say i only played wow or that i played 10 hours a day, did i? But no, why would i think that? It's been a blast, made great friends and other stuff. What was wasted?
@aname-kg3cbАй бұрын
i dont think so you did a good utilisation of your time playing 20 years on wow
@WahiniesАй бұрын
@@axjkhl7699really?
@MGrey-qb5xz29 күн бұрын
@@axjkhl7699tf? Are you mad he dissed intel?
@shimadabrАй бұрын
How did two generations of processors launch without Intel noticing the issue during QA? I imagined their QAs were very thorough and exhaustive, that is an epic failure.
@w1z4rd919 күн бұрын
DEI I guess
@ilikecybermen103619 күн бұрын
@@w1z4rd9 what?????
@w1z4rd918 күн бұрын
@@ilikecybermen1036 Diversity, equity, and inclusion Yes it exists.
@ilikecybermen103618 күн бұрын
@@w1z4rd9 I get that I just don't see what possible relevance it could have here.
@w1z4rd918 күн бұрын
@@ilikecybermen1036 Uhm I guess literally not focusing and putting employee-skills at the top where DEI could directly or indirectly affect the quality of the whole company and it's product. Especially what OP said, Quality Assurance.
@bigbocchiАй бұрын
AMD does nothing. Its competition keeps shooting itself in the foot. The best marketing strategy
@sovietunion9131Ай бұрын
If there wouldn't be any competition AMD will become what intel was in the past "Greedy".
@roflixoАй бұрын
Yeah for AMD it's great. For consumers, not so much. If Intel shits the bed completely, we will be eventually facing another Nvidia-level monopoly, but this time in the CPU world.
@IronCandyNotesАй бұрын
They stole that strat from China.
@commie563Ай бұрын
Feature of last stage capitalism. Same like Boeing and Airbus
@svenhoekАй бұрын
@@sovietunion9131 That is just market forces at work. Greed is a feature of them. The Board's fiduciary duty to shareholder's demands it
@mascot4950Ай бұрын
Phew, I'm so happy I did not put the sticker on mine.
@jamieking3124Ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@lucasmontebanАй бұрын
While the AI comment is overated videos after videos
@the-golden-duckАй бұрын
@@lucasmonteban this makes no sense
@adamm2716Ай бұрын
smort
@Nick12_45Ай бұрын
@@lucasmonteban ?????
@aarona3144Ай бұрын
This exact thing happened to my brand new 14th Gen i7 laptop I bought for work. The motherboard lasted 2 months. Luckily I bought it from Lenovo and I think they did applied some firmware that declocked the CPU. The tech guy who came to my house to fix it said that they were purposefully overclocking these chips and didn't care that they were going to go bad but didn't think they would start to go bad this quickly. Hopefully, they'll do a recall on these and I can get my money back if this continues.
@_DSchАй бұрын
If not, there is one tool that enables the hidden bios developer mode (if that backdoor is still there) from where you can reenable userspace under/overclocking and voltage control. Another method was holding fn while off and swiping your finger over some keyboard rows then turning it back on.
@aarona3144Ай бұрын
@@_DSch 🤔
@zachzimmermann5209Ай бұрын
Wow, I didn't realize quite the bullet I was dodging when I got a cheap 12700k a year back rather than something new. I even got a free NVME drive with the open box motherboard (hiding under the heatsink). Crazy luck in retrospect.
@MetalheadAndNerdАй бұрын
Just rename them to "Sewage Lake"
@akosv96Ай бұрын
Intel (burning inside)™ 14900 L Sewage Lake aka (Sandy bridge refresh refresh refresh refresh), now with 500W total power dissipation and 1% general improvement compared to last gen competitors* *=on 65W power saving config 2133MHz memory clock Talk about snake oil salesman tactics... (They accused AMD officially)
@alvydasjokubauskas2587Ай бұрын
I am not using intel more than 5 years now...
@erkinalpАй бұрын
@@akosv96 DDR4 and DDR5 did indeed require changes in the circuitry, it's not exactly the same as sandy bridge
@Basics_of_GameologyАй бұрын
When u think 11th Gen Lava Lake is bad enough... Intel proves us wrong 😂
@Spidapida006Ай бұрын
A waste of sand!
@ZyfLaАй бұрын
I personally purchased a 14900k and immediately ran into issues with the video memory issue you mentioned, spent weeks going down insane rabbit holes and replacing everything. Only to find out that the default bios settings essentially cooked my cpu, fast forward to me ordering a 14900kf, undervolting, and using all the recommended power settings provided on intels website... only for the 14900kf to slowly fail over time as well... Intel has pretty much lost me as a customer for a very long time, I've had no issues with either of my AMD systems.
@fnorgenАй бұрын
I ran into a dude who insisted that failure to undervolt an Intel K-processor counted as user error. You don't have to worry about Intel running out of customers any time soon.
@shriram5494Ай бұрын
So let me get this straight. You did all that rabbit hole research and then went and bought ANOTHER one of the same cpu?
@TheeGlocktopusАй бұрын
Pretty sure the "don't be an early adopter" motto reigns supreme to this day. It's never failed me. If you look at every hardware manufacturer, they have stories like this throughout the history of time. Intel, AMD, nVidia, Apple all of them. This isn't something new. It comes with territory of "having the latest and greatest" hardware.
@blocksource4192Ай бұрын
What do I do when I just spent $4500 dollars on a intel 14900KS build
@AirCome_Ай бұрын
@@shriram5494might have thought his unit was a dud
@Rec00013Ай бұрын
Amd was known for their chips burning about a decade ago and fixed the issue and left intel in the dust. the only people that still use intel should be large businesses that refuse to change and still use massively outdated intel chips. Amd outpreforms at every metric and has for a long time, including cost
@mariovazquez3874Ай бұрын
People forgot that previous architecture had a problem with hyper threading and Intel solution was.. turn it off, both for old chips, and current ones that don't have it anymore. Don't know if it is incompetence, or planned obsolescence, but is close to becoming a pattern.
@cryptocsguy928212 күн бұрын
@mariovazquez3874 So that's why they removed hypertreading , I had no idea
@keremardicli4013Ай бұрын
"Overflowing stack of problems" 😂😂😂
@Hex-MasАй бұрын
Where the code becomes curses And systems become blasphemy And the bit horses of troy unite on some dead guy's birthday You will know us
@PersonalEmail-ot1bqАй бұрын
@@Hex-Mas 😂😂
@mr.togrul--9383Ай бұрын
I am glad my broke ass doesnt have lastest 13th and 14th gen Intel
@kevinsteinman8967Ай бұрын
I'm so poor that I had to buy Ryzens which turned out to be probably a good thing.
@GHOST-AI1Ай бұрын
not worth the 6000$ either for 600 you can get a 7900x and it works better
@GreafulАй бұрын
If u want high quality Ryzen cpus it’s better to get the 7800x3d (expensive but is stable and rivals both 13th and 14th gen intel cpus in performance) the 7600x if your just trying to get on am5 (still a very capable processor)
@dhwwiiexpertАй бұрын
I could have bought one when I was getting stuff for the PC build, but I decided a 12th gen was good enough.
@YokubasuАй бұрын
I still run 6th gen. Meanwhile my mom has 3rd gen. Neither of us has any issues. Then again we both aren't really power users. I game occasionally, but it's mostly sufficient for the kind of games i'm playing
@doannhat808Ай бұрын
Had a superstition to not buy 13600k because "13" is ill luck. Curse my rationality
@marcelodudka985229 күн бұрын
I bought a 13600k for my new (first) build. I enabled the intel default profile and it has a massive cooler (idles at 35c). I'm praying that my i5 will last. If not, I can't waste time switching out the mobo. I'll just get a 12700k.
@galmud1508Ай бұрын
Well at least it's not a 110% failure rate. So that's good..
@blitzhacker6981Ай бұрын
Yet.. 🤣
@MrDevilex94Ай бұрын
Always look to the bright side
@yvan2563Ай бұрын
Ah, the good old days of the Pentium 5.
@graphguyАй бұрын
😂
@SimGuntherАй бұрын
"On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero" Truly one of the quotes of all time
@ethereal2620Ай бұрын
Does not even need to be that long. Just 100 years will get you like... 3 sigma or more.
@RoboprogsАй бұрын
“Zerohedge” much?
@laevatein8851Ай бұрын
This is a crazy vid. Thanks for reporting on this. I started having these issues almost year ago on my 13th gen. Drove me nuts. Thought it was nvdia the whole time but then managed to narrow it down to my CPU. Disabled all my E cores and now finally no more crashing on anything... But thats like a majority of my cpu...
@stuggy5370Ай бұрын
Got a 13th gen chip this past year. Been in contact with Intel for months with these exact problems, specifically issues at X referenced memory. Intel has been "clueless" about this issue when discussing with me and won't cover the warranty replacement or refund. Have had more help on random intel forum posts and reddit from other people who have these issues. Finally, I have been able to get a SOMEWHAT stable fix when underclocking the voltage, but still super disappointing.
@eduardomoura2813Ай бұрын
>finaly build a high end machine >13700k
@j_shelby_damnwirdАй бұрын
Me too. About two months of usage, mainly for 3D renders and Stable Diffusion. No problems whatsoever.
@eduardomoura2813Ай бұрын
@@j_shelby_damnwird almost 8 months for the same use and no problems guess we got lucky, but maybe next time I should try some amd cpus
@adreto2978Ай бұрын
13700k is stable I think it's just 13900k and 14900k
@beefboxАй бұрын
One year and 5 months for me, no issues, hopefully I don't regret saying that 🤣🤣 i7-13700KF
@timiko4Ай бұрын
@@adreto2978 issues can be in all raptor lake chips, including i7s and i5s, also laptop chips.Yes, on warframe posts>75% of crashes were i9s, but in the rest you had 14700 and 13700
@rickeyheard4454Ай бұрын
dude my PC has been shitting itself for weeks. everything is BRAND NEW. this explains so much. this is ridiculous.
@theyellowarchitect4504Ай бұрын
older = better
@htoaletaarxidatetАй бұрын
dummy
@GameFuMasterАй бұрын
@@theyellowarchitect4504 younger = better
@mortvaldАй бұрын
@@GameFuMaster younger is only better when it becomes older
@XanViciousАй бұрын
What specs? So I can avoid them lol.
@drmoayadАй бұрын
I have an I5 14500k. I thought it was just me who had this problem: my PC would crash randomly and blue screen. My browser would crash some tabs and say that I didn't have enough memory. I reinstalled Windows, and the issue persisted. This video explains a lot!
@gildg7806Ай бұрын
You switching to amd cpu from now on?
@drmoayadАй бұрын
@@gildg7806 I thought about that, but the problem is that it would be too expensive. Switching to my current CPU cost me ~ $500$ because I needed a new motherboard.
@Sou-no7xtАй бұрын
@@gildg7806 we are going to witness AMD become the new villain in the CPU market. I am sure they are going to increase their price tag because the completion will likely die for a while due to Intel's idiocy.
@verified_tinker1818Ай бұрын
Meanwhile, I'm here chilling with my 3rd-generation Intel processor.
@aname-kg3cbАй бұрын
im chilling with my i5 10th gen
@david-biskupek11 күн бұрын
first gen here
@Graphene_314Ай бұрын
The extra cache in AMD's x3d convinced me to get an AMD CPU this time around looks like I made the right choice
@HolyRamanRajyaАй бұрын
I'm waiting for when handhelds get an x3D variant
@ilxplayАй бұрын
no you didn't LMAO
@domenicpolsoni8370Ай бұрын
@@ilxplay What does this mean exactly because "LMAO" isn't a valid argument?
@gregoriodiaАй бұрын
@@ilxplaycope harder. Then your Intel that eats almost 4x more power to barely catch up with AMD will get 9% performance hit before going out in flames. You can then quote Cheech and Chong's "up in smoke, that's where my money goes" xD
@wood6454Ай бұрын
x3d chips ❤
@gblarggАй бұрын
It's not like every failure results in a crash. Imagine all the non-crashing data corruption these could be causing. Definitely won't be getting a PC with one of these in it.
@seeibeАй бұрын
Yes, this is what has me more on edge than anything. I wouldn't want random data corruption that I only notice years later.
@billyshuig6087Ай бұрын
@@seeibe I have a 14th gen and before the bios update it would fuck my windows install and corrupt it so I had to run DISM like every other day
@LabGeckoАй бұрын
After the patch: Corrupting things no one notices until it's impossible to trace 😅 I think it's their new marketing strategy to sell more chips - they just turned the dial up too much at first.
@GeorgeNoiselessАй бұрын
Yikes, I think I'd rather have a component straight up burn out than malfunction like this
@kickbeez642Ай бұрын
What gen is Intel Evo?
@catsspatАй бұрын
Nice fast paced video with all the details and quick jabs. Well done.
@llortaton2834Ай бұрын
Putting the image of boogie as "end user" is nicely done.
@EveryGameGuruАй бұрын
As the owner of a 13900K, I can confirm the stability issues are insane.
@BramagonАй бұрын
Mine has been stable for over a year. I did however change some settings in my (gigabyte) bios the moment I got the chip.. In case you are interested: limited the wattage to intel recommended, disabled all gigabyte overclock settings, set the ac/dc loadline preset to medium (which slightly increases the base voltage iirc), undervolted the chip when under heavy loads using the vf points. (-100mv when all p cores are at 5.5-5.8ghz, -0.8~ at 5.4, -0.6 at 5.3 etc). I also reduced the SA voltage to 1.2v from the mobo default 1.28v. These settings have left me with a perfectly stable chip so far and no performance loss in benchmark. My ram is running at 7200mts with tuned timings using buildzoid recommendations and some experimenting myself. Hopefully I managed to accidentally fix my chip before it started degrading lol.
@dimakoss5142Ай бұрын
Oh shish, I would stop trusting intel after their infamous tripple bug on all processors that was 5-6 yrs back... bad luck anyway, you don't expect to be that scammed bying from intel
@cameronroman506Ай бұрын
@@Bramagonyou have an unlocked chip right? So why purchase an unlocked chip just to do all this? This means they basically are false advertising their unlocked chips and their is no reason to unlock them
@BramagonАй бұрын
@@cameronroman506 Undervolting can increase performance while reducing temps and noise. This was the main reason I initially experimented with these settings. Unlocked chips also tend to be the better binned chips that allow for bigger undervolts without having to lower the frequencies. Overclocking nowadays doesn't make sense because the chips are already pushed to their limits by Intel. Also, another reason for doing all this is because I like experimenting with my hardware :p.
@timothygibney159Ай бұрын
Bite the bullet and go with AMD . The 7950x3d games are waaay smoother. I think the lags and micro stuttering was related to my 13900k. So far the 3d cache and ccd works correctly 💯 of every game. The newest AMD drivers and uefi updates fixed everything
@kapukseАй бұрын
Happy to use amd
@trunestorАй бұрын
I'm not (I have a laptop)
@lylewarren4391Ай бұрын
butthurt intool fans replying to you are crying so hard lmao
@nabir14Ай бұрын
@@aurelia8028 gaintel
@ahmedelboghdadi5328Ай бұрын
First time ever to use an amd for me was at the beginning of the handheld pc era and I must say I'm really impressed! Took it a step further and decided to try one of those pre-built AMD eGPUs and again it hasn't disappointed at all! Watch out Intel!
@blackstone12Ай бұрын
Same
@chris948_vr26 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="84">1:24</a> the "computer" in the stock footage is actually a air purifier lol
@grumpyoldwizardАй бұрын
I am so very, very, glad that I went with 12th gen Intel. I bought my laptop 6 months before 13th gen came out. Having "new" CPUs coming in 6 months was a concern of mine but I went with the model I chose. Phew, that was close.
@bigsnop1607Ай бұрын
This video validated my experience with my 14900k for the last year... ive had every single one of these problems and have had to underclock using extreme tuning utility to not bluescreen constantly. Im so mad i didnt just stick to amd
@other_perfectionАй бұрын
same here. it’s so not fun building high end PC and ending up with crashes in games😂
@WERT2025Ай бұрын
Rumors say that 14 gen is just 13 rebranding
@PunkingamesssАй бұрын
RMA
@vincentlee7937Ай бұрын
LMAO anyone remember that intel snake oil chart it keeps aging like the finest of milk
@user-S853Ай бұрын
No?
@vincentlee7937Ай бұрын
@@user-S853 search for “Gamer nexus intel snake oil”
@DanielFerreira-ez8qdАй бұрын
@@user-S853 Look up their "core rules" presentation to business partners.
@mhtmhnАй бұрын
@@user-S853 Search for the intel "core truths" slide deck
@jonnyj.Ай бұрын
Holy shit yea that was INSANE. The fact that even got approved, and went through the upper management who thought "yea, this looks sane, lets put this out PUBLICLY" is bonkers. Gamers nexus ripped them a new one :D Like holy fuck, that is really what helped with my next cpu being amd...
@cdv130Ай бұрын
SO glad I went with AMD for my new rig... The Intel option was not only more expensive but a power hog.
@FinanceNinjaАй бұрын
Intel's issue is that this seems to be a hardware problem... probably. They can't RMA these chips because they don't have a working alternative to provide. Replacing a faulty chip with another faulty chip will only create extreme customer frustration. The alternative is "Buy AMD" and Intel will never allow that. Intel is trying to buy time for the next generation where hopefully they fix the issue. What they do with the millions of faulty chips is yet to be seen.
@JodyBruchonАй бұрын
I've never been upset about choosing AMD every single time.
@TheeGlocktopusАй бұрын
Phenom? FX series? LLano and any other APUs? Sempron? And don't even get me started on Single Core/Thread performance. Sure, you might have 256 thousand cores, but that doesn't mean much when 99% of software can fully utilize four of them. Want to play the milsim ARMA 3? Better not have an AMD.
@JodyBruchonАй бұрын
@@TheeGlocktopus Never had one regret. Owned every single one. Guess what didn't ever have Meltdown?
@VanadiumАй бұрын
Uh you know what , Arma likes cache. You know what lots of cache is in? X3D. Even crappy optimised games like star citizen runs faster with that cache.
@nathanl2966Ай бұрын
At one point this kind of issue could have easily been an AMD thing, it's better to swing with the pendulum instead of being loyal to the soil.
@slimjim2321Ай бұрын
@@TheeGlocktopus Did you just wake up from some sort of experimental cryosleep program?You're about a decade behind in your Anti-AMD trash talking. Intel chips usually have way more cores than AMD chips nowadays on account of them tacking on 6-8 "efficiency" cores to everything. Hence we get "14" core i5s that perform like an AMD 6-8 core cpu but will win in multithread benchmarks that use the extra "efficiency" cores. You're also behind on the notion that only 4 cores get used. Alot of AAA games in recent years really suffer or won't even run properly on anything less than 6 physical cores. You're supposed to be complaining about AMD cpu firmware having bugs at launch or Zen 2 processors being in the Zen 3 lineup, or something like that.
@petrsehnal7990Ай бұрын
I think they know very well whats wrong. But they just dont want to admit it publicly.
@futuzaАй бұрын
Admitting it publicly, means admitting fault, and admitting fault means admitting liability for a massive class action lawsuit, and and admitting liability means line go down and line goes down means no extra billions.
@GinnyGliderАй бұрын
@@futuza Okay, the way you summarized that in such a high-level overview had me laughing hysterically😄👌
@arsenii_yavorskyiАй бұрын
@@futuza they just got their extra billions from the government.
@jarwarrenАй бұрын
"Diversity, equity, and inclusion have long been Intel’s core values and are instrumental to driving innovation and delivering strong business growth." I mean they say it right on their website
@antelope6826Ай бұрын
@@jarwarrenthat has as much to do with Intel’s chip failures as a clone of Elon Musk…
@awesome832618 күн бұрын
Loaded up on INTC puts after watching this video when it was first published. At the time of writing intel is down 30% in 1 day. Thank you fireship Edit: Typo
@ejtaylor73Ай бұрын
That's what happens when you just keep dumping more and more power into them instead of making actual architecture improvements, just to claim the highest clock speeds. Doesn't matter how high the clock speeds are if the chip burns out and doesn't work, you get no clock speed.
@arsenii_yavorskyiАй бұрын
new reports suggest this isn't because of power.
@honkhonk8009Ай бұрын
Their at the very limit of what architecture improvements they can implement. Problem with Intel is they refuse to spend a dime on improving how much cache their stuff has. Intel machines could be lightspeeds faster if they simply added more cache to their chips.
@lad5912Ай бұрын
New intel architecture will sacrifice rest of the chip until only the clock is left.
@HexanitrobenzeneАй бұрын
@@honkhonk8009 Cache size depends directly on transistor density, and this depends directly on manufacturing technology. As Extreme Ultraviolet Litography is reaching its limits, improvements in manufacturing have become ridiculously costly. Intel produces it's own chips, while AMD uses services of TSMC. TSMC benefits from industry wide funding (for example, they also make Apple chips). I don't think Intel "refuses to spend a dime on improving how much cache their stuff has", it's just insanely costly.
@datacoderXАй бұрын
I never trusted raptors. Everybody who has watched any part of the Jurassic Park franchise should know, they screw you over and eat you alive.
@soishengleong4502Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@clerothsun3933Ай бұрын
Literally everyone with a raptor lake CPU now: any and all crashes are intel's fault!
@waitandhopeАй бұрын
True, I mean who the heck knows
@ataro200926 күн бұрын
it is sad that I am seeing this issue with my 13th gen...
@GavAttackOАй бұрын
Thank GOD I went with a 7800X3D instead of a i7-14700K in my recent PC replacement.
@johnsmith-ro2twАй бұрын
Wait. Isn't AMD an American company too ? Driven by the same moral values as intel and boeing ? That is greed, and more greed ? It's only a matter of time before similar issues happen at AMD (outsource anything and everything to india and wherever, don't raise employees salaries, raise top management's salaries to silly amounts, cut costs on innovation, etc...). Our hope is that the Koreans/Taiwanese/Japanese take over this industry.
@dondraper4438Ай бұрын
@@johnsmith-ro2twZen 5 will be a real wake up call for a lot of people. It's obvious AMD is positioning itself to announce some insane MSRP's with Ryzen 9000 series.
@axiilhАй бұрын
@@johnsmith-ro2tw AMD is a Taiwanese company
@lecoolstoryАй бұрын
@@axiilh No, it's not. AMD is an American company. TSMC, the company that fabricates chips for AMD (including RDNA GPUs), is Taiwanese.
@majinbuu133725 күн бұрын
weren't 7800X3Ds literally exploding a year ago?
@IsaaxАй бұрын
DAMN. The 7800X3D was a good call on my part.
@iikatinggangsengii2471Ай бұрын
i like am5, its amd finally compete at highend gaming
@iikatinggangsengii2471Ай бұрын
they usually only competitive against i5s but these 7000 series are champs and arguably winning if its watt/perf
@shyguy4617Ай бұрын
@@iikatinggangsengii2471Also usually winning in fps for most titles that use v cache
@wohnie39Ай бұрын
I got the 7600X for my build since I was on a budget but I will be waiting patiently for the 9000 series and its X3D proposition
@vasy10124 күн бұрын
Best CPU
@ld204815 күн бұрын
punish corporate greed and incompetencey, they have become too comfortable walking all over us
@ajrf9224 күн бұрын
This is getting me bad vibes. I've bought a 13600K last January to replace the parts of my PC, and by now it's still working great, but after reading and watching this, I don't know what to think about. I hope not to spend another 300-350 bucks on a new CPU.
@JiajuChenАй бұрын
Dancing on rock is a great description, dancing on wasted sand would be more accurate.
@AbstractQbitАй бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="221">3:41</a> Should've called it the Core report, smh
@nikhilkenvetil1594Ай бұрын
That "electron dance around on a rock" was poetic.
@Jean-Denis_R_R_LoretАй бұрын
The problem is now well known, it comes more from motherboard manufacturers providing default UEFI settings, not following specs recommanded by intel. Check everything and set manually every setting related to the CPU at the 1st start in order to follow CPU's specs, and your CPU should be fine, if you run default settings without a check, you are basically playing russian roulette with your CPU, with default parameters that over-volt the CPU when not needed (it's normally done for overclocking), even at default frequency, it's slowly destroy the CPU in a matter of weeks, and once done, the CPU is irreversibly damaged. Remember kids, it's not the frequency that kills a CPU, it's the voltage. I wonder if the problem exists at all with a 13/14th gen intel CPU mounted on an intel motherboard, if it does, so the problem comes from intel, otherwise it's time to check what other vendors are doing, especially those on the gaming segment.
@rhysfridays3871Ай бұрын
i have a 14900k on a z790 intel motherboard. No issues yet after 4 months hoping that stays the case.
@GMFocalFossaАй бұрын
I had a problem with Vbox and VMware where enabling 3d accerleration would lead in a 99% chance of the guest system crashing. I thought this was some kind of NVidia problem but no, probably my 13th gen intel core i7 processor.
@dooorrrАй бұрын
Insane that I a comment about this, literally like 20 minutes ago I had to turn off the 3D accel because Ubuntu wouldn't start after upgrading from 22 to 24 LTS. 13700KF too, guess we're all fkd
@brokeDude2901Ай бұрын
Underclock and pray then
@herpderp6255Ай бұрын
So around a year ago my coworker was building a new machine and it keep crashing and that thing uses a i9 13900K. He sacked the CPU over to me last February and I couldn’t figure out why it was crashing randomly eithe. I ended up contacting intel support to see if I can RMA the thing, but then told me to turn on Intel Fail safe mode in the BIOS, which then stopped those crashes. That was back just back in May. I mean, I got a free CPU, so I shouldn’t be complaining, but I can’t believe this shit is only being discovered now. I legitimately thought this i9 I have was just a faulty one off
@iikatinggangsengii2471Ай бұрын
i honestly dont understand and dont have any intention on being understood, if they havent done i wait
@iikatinggangsengii2471Ай бұрын
all i comperhend is whether the machines can be used and has proper performance and stability for usages
@ryanreedgibsonАй бұрын
I hate to tell you; this isn't a 100% crash rate. Not at least with the 14900k. There is no way I won the silicon lottery 150 times.
@lazthegreat10Ай бұрын
This is karma for decades of illegal business practices
@TheRealJacquesStanderАй бұрын
This literally happened to me 2 months ago. Had a i9-13900KF shut down, bsod, gpu error, screens turn off all randomly degrading over time until I RMA'd the thing, had it replaced with a i9-14900KF and literally had the same issue and had to be replaced by yet another 14900KF.
@DsiakMondalaАй бұрын
Buy yet another one, it must be a fluke.
@Oruta563Ай бұрын
If it fails again you should replace it with 14900KF again, who knows maybe this time it'll work
@sihamhamda47Ай бұрын
If there is a trade in program in the computer stores near you, you could use it to sell your Intel motherboard and parts and trade it with AMD Ryzen processor and motherboard at much cheaper additional price
@johnsmith-ro2twАй бұрын
i5-13500 here. so far, no issues at all. fingers crossed i was lucky enough to get the good one. Also, i never play games.
@BrenoAgmLАй бұрын
I3 8100 here, since 2018 without issues.
@vandalphilosopher1971Ай бұрын
Has someone noted how Linus has been strangely silent about this problem and the situation that developers for windows arm are facing?
@stupidDKSАй бұрын
🤔
@Geralt26Ай бұрын
I did not noticed as I dont watch this crap from longer time :). Initially I watched but had very bad opinion about this channel. You can notice right away it is not about reliable information or ethical but more "show" and "hype". He does not mention probably because she would make harm with "sponsors" (but as I does not watch it from longer time i can be wrong of course :) ). Ps. There was also other controversies with Linus later after i already dropped watching this channel.
@g00bergob94Ай бұрын
The Linus Tech Tips channel is mostly an entertainment channel now. They don't really ever do dedicated deep dives or videos about news. At most you get a TechLinked video with a 2 minute segment on it.
@n_coreАй бұрын
Maybe because the core issue is still under investigation. So that's why the main channel still hasn't covered this news. But Techlinked has certainly covered it a while ago. They don't want to rush to make a video about this thing currently. They learned their lesson of making rushed videos.
@dekjetАй бұрын
LTT really has nothing to add to the conversation here. It would make a very boring and unsatisfying video with no conclusion. Bascially only repeating information from other sources. This is not what LTT usually does on the main channel. Something like "The Most UNRELIABLE Gaming PC" would be a more LTTish way of covering a topic like that. But not as long as the story is still evolving.
@martinklein2201Ай бұрын
What if Intel knows what's the problem? Meaning unfixable hardware mistake. CPU's would have to be replaced, which would be super expensive for Intel. They will rather say we don't know the issue, if your chip dies, buy a new one.
@WeDevinАй бұрын
"The gravy train on biscuit wheels is starting to derail " 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@vyaxАй бұрын
Lol just noticed this while playing valorant on an i9-13900k. Had this video on the second display. Facepalm...
@vyaxАй бұрын
I've crashed twice in two days. Its been right after launching valorant and as soon as I load into the game the first time. When I reconnect after the reboot there isn't an issue. Got a 24hr ban for it hahahahah.
@ezicirako9055Ай бұрын
Underclock and undervolt it
@berkertaskiranАй бұрын
Underclock and undervolt doesn't solve it. Heck some say the opposite might be needed. This is a complex issue and it seems like all of these CPUs will deteriorate at some point. I would consider returning it if possible.
@MhdurjАй бұрын
@@berkertaskirannah just buy new one when it breaks
@gtx1650max-qАй бұрын
nah that's just valorant
@HelloKollaАй бұрын
As someone who recently bought a Ryzen laptop, I feel like a dodged a goddamn bullet lol.
@infastin3795Ай бұрын
You didn't wait for Strix Point?
@jprice_Ай бұрын
You know everyone was using intel to avoid this instability issue that was present on ryzens? 😅 Just google "is intel more stable than amd" and look at stuff from few years ago.
@FantastikaАй бұрын
@@aurelia8028 AMD is top dog
@HolyRamanRajyaАй бұрын
loving my AMD handheld. It's been over a year with no major issues.
@sql64Ай бұрын
i just bought a laptop with an i5-1340p but i think only the higher core count chips are having issues
@Mo.Ab.Ma-CaАй бұрын
Apple knew and they got out from Intel’s business.
@TheLegendaryBMАй бұрын
I literally just reformatted because I thought Windows bugs....nope....just have a 13900k
@marshallgsАй бұрын
Just had my first BSOD yesterday while making a RAR file. Confirmed that making a RAR file tanked my 14900k, but Cinebench was fine. After updating BIOS with the new Intel mitigations it's working for now.
This reminds me of the time when I was shopping for a new laptop sometime last year together with my dad. The staff at the shop showed us different units, one of which had an Intel CPU and some few others with AMD. On paper, the specs for the laptop in the shop with Intel seemed better than the one with AMD, though they cost nearly the same. My dad and I discussed about what to get. He told me that the laptop issued to him at his office has Intel and it ran fine (during that time), while I insisted that I prefer the one with AMD. I said that since I also like to play games, I've read that AMD CPUs were generally better than Intel. I also told him that since my old laptop which lasted for years has AMD, I wanted to get a laptop with an AMD again. In the end, I got the one with an AMD CPU (it's a Lenovo with an AMD Ryzen). At present it still works very well, both for gaming and for working! 😊
@shiv7978Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="42">0:42</a> overflowing stack HOW DID ANYONE NOT NOTICE THIS LMAO
@ashimarulovesyouАй бұрын
Really glad right now that I decided to buy an Intel Core i9 14900K
@synenАй бұрын
The 14900K has issues too.
@ashimarulovesyouАй бұрын
@@synen That is called sarcasm. It was the whole point of the joke.
@BramagonАй бұрын
You might be able to prevent or delay issues by making some changes in the bios if you're willing to experiment. My 13900k has been stable for over a year. I did however change some settings in my (gigabyte) bios the moment I got the chip.. In case you are interested: limited the wattage to intel recommended, disabled all gigabyte overclock settings, set the ac/dc loadline preset to medium (which slightly increases the base voltage iirc), undervolted the chip when under heavy loads using the vf points. (-100mv when all p cores are at 5.5-5.8ghz, -0.8~ at 5.4, -0.6 at 5.3 etc). I also reduced the SA voltage to 1.2v from the mobo default 1.28v. These settings have left me with a perfectly stable chip so far and no performance loss in benchmark. My ram is running at 7200mts with tuned timings using buildzoid recommendations and some experimenting myself.
@SmilingBakedBaguetteАй бұрын
You'll eventually get a refund, hopefully some compensation even. Good luck to you 🤞🏼
@zukaroАй бұрын
I'm glad I'm still running an i7-7700K. I can still play all my games at the highest settings. Windows 11 doesn't officially support it but it runs fine, so I've gotten about 7 years out of this CPU so far. I'm hoping to get at least a decade before I even consider upgrading.
@aname-kg3cbАй бұрын
well guess what my 10th gen intel is more stable than the 13th gen intel
@healthyasmr9246Ай бұрын
my i7 4770 from 2014 is more stable
@IamKingSleezy17 күн бұрын
Update 8/4/24: It’s much worse than originally led to believe
@ShadowManceriАй бұрын
It's not a rock, it's a mineral. And electrons are not dancing on it, quite the opposite. It is *an insulator* and gold is used as conductor.
@EliPorterMahnАй бұрын
So glad I went all amd this time, no melting power connectors, no unstable chips with glaring design flaws. Also was much cheaper while being only 10 percent behind
@alexlowe2054Ай бұрын
After the mitigations that hurt performance, AMD isn't even behind anymore. If you've got a 7800x3D, you've got the fastest gaming CPU on the market.
@novantha1Ай бұрын
My understanding of the issue is that Intel's 12th gen processors were fairly good, but in order to get 13th/14th gen (they're basically the same gen, fight me) to market, they had to rush the architecture design, and they rapidly adapted 12th gen into a new architecture by adding more little cores and cache, but in rapidly adapting 12th gen into something it wasn't quite meant to be, they introduced the issues. I'm pretty sure future architectures won't have the issue, as they're ground up redesigns, but I'm also not sure enough to recommend my friends anything other than AMD until I've seen next gen intel chips lasting for more than two years.
@pplmacosАй бұрын
If this were the case, Intel would quickly solve the existing problems, everything would be as transparent as possible, and silence most likely indicates that: either a deep quality check is being carried out, and I think that's why Intel is postponing the release of new products (maybe I don't know something, and that's just my guess), or a very expensive solution is required to cover the cost of marriage, which will radically change the approach to production technology
@allxtend4005Ай бұрын
you mean the 12th gen that finaly can catch up to ryzen 5000 when 10th and 11th gen failed ? dont be foolish, every Ryzen 5000 CPU is better then a intel 12th gen for sure and upgrade path of a 12th gen to 13/14 is something nobody want to risk even on a used market in a year.
@novantha1Ай бұрын
@@allxtend4005 In this context I meant "good" as in terms of reliability as it related to the specific issue in the video. Generally I've preferred Ryzen processors overall for every generation they've released as it always felt that they offered better value for what I wanted at the time, but it's not as though Intel chips haven't had reasons to buy them, as well. It's more a matter of what tradeoffs you're willing to accept, what you need out of your processor, and if you do custom workloads to the metal that can take full advantage of all the features available which you're paying for when buying the processor.
@MessyPointedBlobАй бұрын
This isn't an architecture issue but a silicon level issue that has to do with process node and generation of the internal transistors.
@kailisse3267Ай бұрын
On a i9-12900T I had repeatable crashes. My solution was deactivating all efficiency cores.
@other_perfectionАй бұрын
I have one of these chips and I have crashes in games. Underclocking helped
@RiyozsuАй бұрын
OEMs wont complain about this because Intel has bribed them but the customer service department will have a bad month dealing with continuous complaints from customers.
@fotmhekiАй бұрын
I think it was also really hard to achieve a 100% rate failuire. Well done Intel!
@lachiemАй бұрын
I've been dealing with these issues since October last year, this sh*t started well before February 🙄
@handanyldzhan923227 күн бұрын
Intel really took the saying "it's better to burn out than fade away" to heart.
@ehtrudeАй бұрын
I own a 14600K, and some games like Terraria, and even Steam itself can crash the entire system. Happens on every OS, and even emulated games. Im starting to think that the CPU is to blame here... Anyone else has this issue?
@ydfhlx5923Ай бұрын
Tricking rocks into thinking for us was a mistake.
@oleg4966Ай бұрын
Nah, it was a triumph.
@NIKHARCHHABHAYAАй бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="99">1:39</a> your voice sounded like a real human, noticed for the first time
@brunopanizziАй бұрын
This part sounds AI generated
@smplchmpАй бұрын
this was actually the only real audio clip
@donaldmahaya2689Ай бұрын
The Boeing of the Chip industry
@datachu25 күн бұрын
"I don't think I could do a better job making a bunch of electrons dance around on a rock." A humble man.
@SharunKumarАй бұрын
Never thought I'd see a warframe mention on this channel
Ай бұрын
I immediately went check which generation my chip is. 10th gen. Being broke saved me this time 🤣
@shaunk6822Ай бұрын
Haven't bought an Intel chip since before the AMD FX Bulldozer chips (2013). Originally because AMD was a lot cheaper so I could then get a better GPU. Now my recent upgrade was because AMD was better and cheaper. None of my AMD chips have given a single problem. Yes, the Bulldozer chip still works.
@BodySculptTV26 күн бұрын
I am running a 14900K and saw this taking shape since February of 2024 when I updated my bios with the latest Microcode at that time. Whatever update they made at that point ruined these 13th and 14th gen processors. Before that I was able to run my 14900k at 6.1Ghz all P-Core and 4.6 all E-core without any crashes or instability issues. Since then, I have had to run it on default settings of 5.7Ghz/P and 4.3Ghz/E and it runs stable within normal operating voltage. I believe my next processor will be AMD based, I am a bit tired of running in circles with Intel. Plus, the longevity of AMD based motherboards is truly outstanding.
@fromagetristeАй бұрын
the reason why i dont chose Intel is that, when i touch the laptops at the supermarket, the ones running on Intel are always super warm (when room température is 20°C)
@XelixisАй бұрын
ça devient du fromage fondu
@zoetje9817Ай бұрын
The cheese melts in the microwave, Intel chips melt Inside™
@dtibor5903Ай бұрын
I7-1355u here in a slim HP laptop, all good, not toasty, no crash, weeks of uptimes.
@dijital4801Ай бұрын
@@dtibor5903 thats all very nice but what are you using it for? If ur just web browsing and using office that doesnt tell us anything besides the fact that it itsnt complete rubbish
@KomeuppanceАй бұрын
Laptops at a supermarket is the first problem...
@VasyVasiiАй бұрын
Gone are the days when Intel exclusively released processors on various sockets with only 4 cores and at increasingly higher prices😁