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@funny-video-YouTube-channel
@funny-video-YouTube-channel 5 жыл бұрын
*AMD did really well.* They might have saved the gaming community from being stuck for a decade in the Intel sandbox game. Thx. dear AMD engineers !
@iset9634
@iset9634 5 жыл бұрын
epSos.de I already invested in an amd system 2 weeks ago to support them (R5 2600X and 1070)
@thanhdohuu9473
@thanhdohuu9473 5 жыл бұрын
@@iset9634 I got 2 PCs that rock a 1600 and a 2700x. Now we just have to wait for AMD to have good GPUs to compete against Nvidia's.
@Fine_i_set_the_handle
@Fine_i_set_the_handle 5 жыл бұрын
@@thanhdohuu9473 gonna be waiting a long time lol
@lawrencenoyman350
@lawrencenoyman350 5 жыл бұрын
@@thanhdohuu9473 , AMD needs to start making cards and drivers that actually work.
@eddtru
@eddtru 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fine_i_set_the_handle I would love to say 7nm cards are gonna turn it around for amd but given their track record wouldn't be surprised if they are still weaker than rtx.
@Valhalla_Awaits94
@Valhalla_Awaits94 5 жыл бұрын
When your monopoly goes to shit and you have to actually work for the first time in 15 years...
@catlover1986
@catlover1986 5 жыл бұрын
Intel has saved AMD from bankruptcy several times, in order to not be a monopoly. Intel is not a monopoly by any standard, except that everyone but Intel sucked at making processors until last year. Being mad at Intel for not having competition (AMD), would be like being mad at Ford because KIA sucked... Remember the alternative to Ford, if they had never existed, was not KIA, it was a horse, because Ford invented cars. Intel invented processors, your alternative to Intel if they had never existed was not AMD, it was a pencil, typewriter, and slide rule.
@Valhalla_Awaits94
@Valhalla_Awaits94 5 жыл бұрын
You're telling an economist a monopoly isn't bad, keep trying ^^
@catlover1986
@catlover1986 5 жыл бұрын
@@Valhalla_Awaits94 I am an economist myself. The fact is that Intel is not a monopoly. They have competition (AMD) in large processors, and Qualcomm and others in small processors. Monopolies are only bad when they harm consumers. Not a given. That's why the law only bans anti-competitive monopolies, not all monopolies. Your opponent sucking, is not anti-competitive. Again, Intel has paid money to keep AMD in business, just to avoid becoming a monopoly. You can't be mad at a company for being successful. From 2007 to early 2017, AMD produced terrible stuff. Then they made better stuff and became competitive. That means Intel did not have an anti-competitive system in place, they won by merit. Intel invented the industry. They are better at it than everyone else. Nothing wrong with that.
@Valhalla_Awaits94
@Valhalla_Awaits94 5 жыл бұрын
@@catlover1986 Intel not a monopoly? Not all monopolies are bad? Not all are anti-competitive? Intel invented the idustry? I usually don't get angry over comments on the internet but what kind of inbred idiot fuck are you? I am an economist myself? Bullshit you are. You still havn't graduated highschool, the only economy knowledge you get is what your dad spouts at family diners. Fucking hell.
@Synthwave89
@Synthwave89 5 жыл бұрын
@@catlover1986 Just stop, you are embarrassing yourself. Monopolies and fake oligopolies have proven they cannot be trusted not to be anti consumer and anti competitive which is why the former are outlawed by anti-trust laws. That the anti trust laws are shitty or not enforced because of lobbyists and corrupt politicians is another topic, but all monopolies (with exception of natural monopolies/utilities) are illegal. You think intel would not buy AMD in a second if monopolies were legal? lmfao
@lasarith2
@lasarith2 4 жыл бұрын
2008 Intel we have a 4Ghz 80 core Cpu in the lab which you’ll see in a few years time .... 11 years later 4-8 cores .
@RedstoneNguyen
@RedstoneNguyen 4 жыл бұрын
Pentium 4 4Ghz (2005) canceled due to overheat.
@InDreamsYourMine
@InDreamsYourMine 5 жыл бұрын
"What happened exactly" AMD's Ryzen is what happened.
@muffemod
@muffemod 5 жыл бұрын
Ryzen bought AMD back from the dead when BULLDOZER launched and the company was out of the competition.
@123benley
@123benley 5 жыл бұрын
Have a look at Adored TV new video , 😀😀 looking great for new 3700x
@fironfiron8843
@fironfiron8843 5 жыл бұрын
For the AMD vs Intel..I will compare them non-tech wise. AMD has a CEO approval of 93%. Intel has a CEO approval of 78% (Glassdoor) If the higher up makes a fucked up decision, then you are doomed. Having bad management also is a killer, bigger killer than being behind few generation in terms of tech. AMD's new CEO has a high emphasis on communication, and that might be the reason the company got back on its feet, from making losses to making profits. AMD if it changes its corporate culture which it is doing , will eventually surpass Intel. It is also not just about hiring talented folks with 999999 IQ, it is about keeping those folks in the company satisfied and preventing turnover.
@muffemod
@muffemod 5 жыл бұрын
@@fironfiron8843 That's why the AMD CEO got fuckin sacked with BULLDOZER release
@fironfiron8843
@fironfiron8843 5 жыл бұрын
@@muffemod She was responsible for critical decisions that helped the company from losing money to making money. If not for her, then AMD would have been dead. There is obvious bad side to her, I admit that.
@Trainy2
@Trainy2 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing Intel will listen to is lack of sales.
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 5 жыл бұрын
And fanboys will continue buying overpriced Intel products
@PiskenDragen
@PiskenDragen 5 жыл бұрын
@hdshatterify well they were in a mighty haste after Ryzen's hit. And given they didn't get massive improvement of architecture for more than 5-7 years they just weren't ready for this.
@Broyale26
@Broyale26 5 жыл бұрын
+sprdvx, I hope you wake up to $1,000,000,000.00 in your bank account.
@DuvJones
@DuvJones 5 жыл бұрын
Well, there are Several things that will make Intel cry next year but honestly, AMD will likely be forced to take the consumer base since Intel has pretty much abandoned improving it. Between AMD pushing the envelope on what consumers should expect on consumer products and the fact that in a few years, the server market might manage to lock Intel out completely (ARM is HUGE in the server market and last week got a BIG win, Amazon will deploy their own arm chips instead of buying Intel's), there isn't much that Intel can bank on. AMD Zen arch and Ryzen/EPYC line continues to expand, while Intel's hold on the computing market continues to erode from all fronts. Still from the looks of it AMD might get the pyrrhic victory from this, since I have NO idea how AMD cracks into the server market without an ARM line. Simply put x86 is a crux in that market (mostly because of the massive amount of bugs and exploits on the platform that give the cloud [and sys admins] headaches) and AMD choice to focus on x86 is rather hazy when the market it shifting against it (And RISC-V is definitely on the horizon, with neither big player in that pot)...
@jackpatteeuw9244
@jackpatteeuw9244 5 жыл бұрын
@hdshatterify - Surprisingly, "mainstream" business desktop/laptop suppliers (Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc) are slow to bring out AMD based products. It could be because "big business" purchasing agents keep checking the "Intel" box on their order forms, when placing those multiple thousand unit orders.
@gmrs1985
@gmrs1985 5 жыл бұрын
Boots advertised by a guy in sandals... OK Marketing done right
@raymond8875
@raymond8875 5 жыл бұрын
Well, those boots have more in common with sandals than boots.
@gmrs1985
@gmrs1985 5 жыл бұрын
Now that's some advertisement!
@M4TTYN
@M4TTYN 5 жыл бұрын
king of mandles w/ a boots ad yup 10/10 marketing
@ArmyGreensTanBoots
@ArmyGreensTanBoots 5 жыл бұрын
They're good boots... For the price. Kinds surprised to see this ad from them though. 😂
@LuisMan123
@LuisMan123 5 жыл бұрын
I would never wear boots xD
@kumbaj1612
@kumbaj1612 4 жыл бұрын
watching this in end 2019...man...amd has gone far
@erejnion
@erejnion 4 жыл бұрын
The prediction came 100% true: now Intel's HEDT platform has no right to exist. Only the 9900K and the Xeons are even considered by people.
@lane-_-mass5006
@lane-_-mass5006 4 жыл бұрын
True very true
@ravioli-ravioli
@ravioli-ravioli 3 жыл бұрын
​@@erejnion yet, you still can buy some 8 cores 16 threads Xeons on aliexpress which costs like 5-10x lower than ryzen, but had the same performance in gaming and working tasks. Soooo idk, who's win in that situation, 50 dollars xeon = 999 dollars ryzen\intel xd
@thomassmith4999
@thomassmith4999 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this 3/4 the way through the glorious year of 2020.. Still using 7 Xeons in total in this house.. Nothing else
@roblox-vo2dk
@roblox-vo2dk 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomassmith4999 xeons are awesome
@oORoOFLOo
@oORoOFLOo 5 жыл бұрын
AMD: From Zero to Hero.
@coreysias3072
@coreysias3072 5 жыл бұрын
amd is for the poor people not willing to pay for the best
@kalklod5027
@kalklod5027 5 жыл бұрын
@@coreysias3072 intel is for stupid people cause they pay more at same spec or maybe less... rich people also using amd bruh..
@ypsilondaone
@ypsilondaone 5 жыл бұрын
Nuh. From hero to zero to hero. Kid.
@Knee-Lew
@Knee-Lew 5 жыл бұрын
@@coreysias3072 that's the insult for us, poor people, at best. In fact, we used AMD products not for "poor" option, but it's for BETTER option with BETTER bang for buck. Who bringed 1GHz first? Who bringed 64-bit first? Who bringed 8 core (now 12 and 16!) CPU to the mainstream? You should thank AMD for pushing your Intel company to bring better products, and not ripping off your money. Stupid fanboy. We "poor people" only choose the best bang for buck, if there's Intel that can provide better bang for buck, we choose that, and vice versa.
@allipse8224
@allipse8224 5 жыл бұрын
@@coreysias3072 Intel fanboy spotted
@MaggieLeeow
@MaggieLeeow 5 жыл бұрын
Intel: ok linus Makes cpu 3x more expensive
@EmbyTheEnby
@EmbyTheEnby 5 жыл бұрын
😭
@andy56duky
@andy56duky 5 жыл бұрын
AMD: oh Makes CPU more effective and more bang for a buck.
@M4TTYN
@M4TTYN 5 жыл бұрын
same logic apple does cause they hate their consumers
@FlavourlessLife
@FlavourlessLife 5 жыл бұрын
"Just keep increasing the price... it will make people think AMD is for poor people."
@deadbr0ke117
@deadbr0ke117 5 жыл бұрын
I was curled home three
@aissaouimahmoud3096
@aissaouimahmoud3096 5 жыл бұрын
intel fanboys even if you hate AMD ...... dont forget that AMD helps you to get more cores and best performance out of your cpu
@thatgamertho227
@thatgamertho227 5 жыл бұрын
Amd fanboys even if you hate intel ..... dont forgert that intel helps you get better single thread performance out of your cpu
@MyCompAndGadgetHacks
@MyCompAndGadgetHacks 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao AMD brought 64-bit to x86 and now made 8 cores mainstream.
@willa8720
@willa8720 5 жыл бұрын
@Hoang Quan man if you don't care about single thread performance, use amd fx series then
@tek2313
@tek2313 5 жыл бұрын
@ThatGamerTho are you really happy with the single core performance of your CPU? it's 5% extra so enjoy it with less cores and low perfomance CPU.
@darknes4150
@darknes4150 5 жыл бұрын
@@tek2313 and a much higher cost
@Vienna3080
@Vienna3080 5 жыл бұрын
AMD did so well intel committed suicide
@presplit
@presplit 4 жыл бұрын
If intel didnt had succes , amd would be same as intel
@lemoncool6724
@lemoncool6724 4 жыл бұрын
Intel use Self-Distruct!
@wololo10
@wololo10 5 жыл бұрын
In other reviews: I9 9900k is ridicously expensive! Linus: I9 9900k is awesomely cheap!
@mobddd
@mobddd 5 жыл бұрын
I am still rocking i7 4790K, my next build will be with AMD with zen 2 next year. honestly im tired of intel and nvidia pricing.
@bamholian4567
@bamholian4567 5 жыл бұрын
How are you doing as far a pcie lane limitations?
@hr.m885
@hr.m885 5 жыл бұрын
AMD has almost double pcie lane
@dankbeast9013
@dankbeast9013 5 жыл бұрын
I stopped supporting Intel and Nvidia after catching on to their monopolistic ways. Absolutely disgusting. Plus being a computer enthusiast but not having a lot of money. Amd is so much friendlier
@dankbeast9013
@dankbeast9013 5 жыл бұрын
@PeePee2000 monopolistic ways bro
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 5 жыл бұрын
@@bamholian4567 lol PCI and SLI limitation isn't a thing when it comes to AMD, Ryzen still holds up.. even if the ddr4/5 RAM and motherboards are a little more pricier than than the older intel alternatives.
@bananaFPS
@bananaFPS 5 жыл бұрын
I guess Intels “killing it” right now
5 жыл бұрын
Stop it, get some help.
@buglocc
@buglocc 5 жыл бұрын
Good one
@stevethea5250
@stevethea5250 5 жыл бұрын
Kindly help yourself.
@proton9885
@proton9885 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! But our pockets.
@kakao6125
@kakao6125 5 жыл бұрын
Sell your house to intel for new i9 9900k!
@Giggidygiggidy12
@Giggidygiggidy12 5 жыл бұрын
The points made in this video are the main reason I support AMD over Intel. Without AMD we'd all be getting bent over by Intel and their over priced CPUs. Ryzen will continue to be my go to for all custom builds, glad to see AMD take the lead
@jakeedwards4454
@jakeedwards4454 5 жыл бұрын
They haven't taken the lead at all, not will their new gen chips
@Rudy97
@Rudy97 5 жыл бұрын
AMD is no longer behind in gamin, the only thing intel can do is lower prices and try to work on 10nm
@fravier10001
@fravier10001 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rudy97 agreed, in the worst case scenario you lost like 5% on fps but in everything else they destroys Intel for less money.
@graphincer3164
@graphincer3164 5 жыл бұрын
I use intel but if I had the chance to change I’d go to ryzen. I support them more and their CPU’s are powerful.
@muddy111
@muddy111 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Edwards that’s what you think
@sushx21
@sushx21 4 жыл бұрын
Update in 2019 *Ryzen 3rd Gen happened*
@weepee3249
@weepee3249 4 жыл бұрын
Zen 3 in the future.
@allxtend4005
@allxtend4005 4 жыл бұрын
@@weepee3249 update Ryzen 3000 series bang Intel i9 in gaming and WorkStation plus it cost not that much and lower Watt usage plus Intel i9 10.000 series got beaten hard by Ryzen 3000 series :) Ahahahaha i love AMD that for they are like the Hero who stop the Greedy Blue bastards milk people for years
@-.2..
@-.2.. 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, come on! CES 2020 is happening in one week and we're already gonna see Ryzen 4000
@other2494
@other2494 4 жыл бұрын
And then Threadripper 3990WX happened
@braydenrevell
@braydenrevell 4 жыл бұрын
Look at ur likes duuuude 69 man
@TrinhStudios
@TrinhStudios 5 жыл бұрын
My almost 5 year old i7 4770k is still going strong. Will update in 5 years
@datAero
@datAero 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@bazonga9085
@bazonga9085 5 жыл бұрын
TrinhStudios Ahaha it’s going to explode
@awesomusmaximus3766
@awesomusmaximus3766 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@fffrrraannkk
@fffrrraannkk 5 жыл бұрын
I hear you.. I've had a i5 4670k for about 5 years and it's still holding up.
@jamesgibson4275
@jamesgibson4275 5 жыл бұрын
Really wish it had VM direct hardware passthrough support, but meh... The 4770k is supreme!
@kieranphilpott686
@kieranphilpott686 5 жыл бұрын
I hope AMD can cause a similar amount of disruption in the GPU market. Would be great for consumers
@Solomolo25839
@Solomolo25839 5 жыл бұрын
Kieran Philpott seriously. They’re in a good spot where if they release something that competes with the 1080 ti / 2080 at a price of 499-599 that’d be great
@joem3082
@joem3082 5 жыл бұрын
My sides
@johnconnor2402
@johnconnor2402 5 жыл бұрын
AMD literally has a $100,000 R&D budget for every $1,000,000 Nvidia has. AND they're also fighting Intel on the CPU front. It's impossible for them to compete with Nvidia at the high end at this point. Even when they had Nvidia beat in the mid 2000s, people still bought Nvidia. AMD is constantly playing from behind.
@howtogitgud
@howtogitgud 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnconnor2402 AMD is waiting patiently for opportunity.
@cloudboysmusic5223
@cloudboysmusic5223 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnconnor2402 New AMD GPU architecture next year, so we'll see.
@RayMak
@RayMak 5 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to lean towards AMD....
@alexmarinescu2873
@alexmarinescu2873 5 жыл бұрын
dont go to the DARK side.....:))))
@FLASH24x
@FLASH24x 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexmarinescu2873 Agree
@harleyspeedthrust4013
@harleyspeedthrust4013 5 жыл бұрын
why is your name highlighted you didn't upload the damn video
@beat6039
@beat6039 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexmarinescu2873 heh
@manofrice1058
@manofrice1058 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmarinescu2873 now its the light side :)
@MRGianba1310
@MRGianba1310 5 жыл бұрын
Get an x299 system they said, it will be future proofed they said
@FZERO
@FZERO 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what the problem is for the future. I am running an Intel core i7 7820x overclocked to 5GHZ on the x299 platform. I am not lacking any power in any ways. Gaming, rendering, heavy workload due to archive compression, nothing is a problem right now and shouldn't be in the next years..
@Wahinies
@Wahinies 5 жыл бұрын
I was so close to jumping into x299 and am glad I didn't. Cant wait for Z2 in Q2 :)
@zacktrever1878
@zacktrever1878 5 жыл бұрын
I jumped on a x79 platforn Best decision ever
@kadennedak
@kadennedak 5 жыл бұрын
vctjkhme how
@Harryw007
@Harryw007 5 жыл бұрын
I’m still on X79 too with my xeon e5 2680 v2 overclocked to 4ghz on one core or an all core turbo of 3.5ghz (400mhz oc). I pair it with a 1070 and 32gb ram and it handles any game I throw at it very well while running multiple VMs in the background.
@thelastcube.
@thelastcube. 5 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the day RAM prices go down again so I can feed it to my chrome/firefox
@RpiesSPIES
@RpiesSPIES 5 жыл бұрын
Same. Only thing that held me back from upgrading my CPU. Although, maybe it's good, because I'll get to see where the next generation of CPU's head.
@HappyDragneels_page
@HappyDragneels_page 5 жыл бұрын
when i built my pc they told me 16gb RAM was overkill....little did they know i use chrome
@yeezywesty3651
@yeezywesty3651 5 жыл бұрын
lolll
@yeezywesty3651
@yeezywesty3651 5 жыл бұрын
i got 16gb a year ago boy... did I hurt. I couldnt even get the ram on AMD qvl list. i had to get some overpriced unsupported BS... granted it has been ok ram. not many problems.
@HappyDragneels_page
@HappyDragneels_page 5 жыл бұрын
@@yeezywesty3651 bro fucking tell me about it, i paid over 200 bucks for my 16gb trident Z, shit was scarcer than water in africa
@perkele1989
@perkele1989 5 жыл бұрын
PLEASE include "compilling code" in your benchmarks. It's a task that benefits from multithreading in a way that few others do, and where more cores always equals better results. Compiling Unreal Engine 4 is a very good benchmark for this.
@gethermedel3620
@gethermedel3620 5 жыл бұрын
UP!!!
@Henrik0x7F
@Henrik0x7F 5 жыл бұрын
Compile QT or the Linux kernel instead. Unreal Engine isn't used that much in comparison
@artificialhype7515
@artificialhype7515 5 жыл бұрын
@Henrik0x7F no, compiling Unreal Engine 4 would be a better test.
@theIpatix
@theIpatix 5 жыл бұрын
You might wanna check out level1techs for these kind of things. Although I don't think they do Unreal Engine, but they do other compilation tasks.
@astrolight5708
@astrolight5708 5 жыл бұрын
I am actually building a good RYZEN computer just for that reason to reach up to unreal engine graphics. It's not the matter of being a fanboy it's called criticism everyone has different criticism such as you criticizing his video. I honestly prefer RYZEN over Intel can't you just shut the fuck up and respect what other people like or prefer? Asshole.
@JoshKaufmanstuff
@JoshKaufmanstuff 5 жыл бұрын
I'm overdue for a PC update. If i'm looking for a MOBO socket that has the best upgrade potential in the future, what do you recommend and why? intel 1151 vs amd am4?? (2066 vs TR4?)
@okrajoe
@okrajoe 5 жыл бұрын
Just Intel doing Intel things.
@jamescarter8311
@jamescarter8311 5 жыл бұрын
Like making craploads of money. AMD would charge high prices too, if they could.
@obscurecasualvideogamemusi9437
@obscurecasualvideogamemusi9437 5 жыл бұрын
which is why amd wins
@daevster6663
@daevster6663 5 жыл бұрын
Lol my friend got mad because he got a gaming PC for Christmas but it didn't have the specs he wanted. The PC he wanted was a pre built that had an i5 8400 8gb of ram and a GTX 1060 3gb. But the one his parents bought has an r5 2600 16gb of ram and an Rx 580 8gb. This kid was devastated. I tried to reason with him and tell him that the specs are similar and in a lot of ways better ie more ram, vram, and threads but he wouldn't have it. It just goes to show how well Intel has drilled it in people's minds that Intel and Nvidia are the way to go for gaming. But come Christmas day when he downloads and plays a bunch of games hopefully he will forget all about it.
@pritishgulati8605
@pritishgulati8605 5 жыл бұрын
Man RX580 8G > 1060 3G . Also all these KZfaqrs fill the internet with how Intel is better for gaming. Now i recently saw a video comparing Ryzen Vs Intel on a 1070 there was no difference and anything over a 1070 i know Intel will win easily. But the RX 580 < 1070. Plus the Ryzen Platform is better for streaming using OBS, more threads.
@TrueZutyro
@TrueZutyro 5 жыл бұрын
@@pritishgulati8605 Of course 1070 is more powerful than RX 580, but it also costs about twice as much.
@pritishgulati8605
@pritishgulati8605 5 жыл бұрын
@@TrueZutyroI did'nt want to point out the GPU. I wanted to point out that the Ryzen Platform is perfect for Cards with GPU performance less or equal to 1070. Above a 1070 is where Intel starts to win.
@pritishgulati8605
@pritishgulati8605 5 жыл бұрын
@@TrueZutyro Also The RX 580>GTX 1060
@TrueZutyro
@TrueZutyro 5 жыл бұрын
​@@pritishgulati8605 I get you. I own RX 580 and Ryzen 7 1700X
@handle_m1
@handle_m1 5 жыл бұрын
Intel: The Empire AMD: Rebel alliance
@Albus_Rex
@Albus_Rex 5 жыл бұрын
Is that supposed to make me like AMD? Galatic Empire is great and rebel scum are nothing more than terrorists.
@badger657
@badger657 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a lotgh reference?
@thelemon2764
@thelemon2764 5 жыл бұрын
the cores awaken
@dimitriosparthenis987
@dimitriosparthenis987 5 жыл бұрын
@@Albus_Rex lol well said
@thefishstick
@thefishstick 5 жыл бұрын
LOL! I love it
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 5 жыл бұрын
Love the detailed explanations of these CPU lineups! Very good reporting here on this channel in the interwebs!
@vector6077
@vector6077 5 жыл бұрын
*Computex 2019 happened* The time is now.
@benitollan
@benitollan 5 жыл бұрын
Linus DROPS bombs on INTEL's logics
@barnosho1611
@barnosho1611 5 жыл бұрын
@FacePwn64 you really deserve a like
@Smitty833
@Smitty833 5 жыл бұрын
At least they’re screwing themselves and not just their customers anymore
@PyromancerRift
@PyromancerRift 5 жыл бұрын
Unless you are a random buying a workstation from dell.
@NekkeDeez
@NekkeDeez 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, 2 times "their" and one of them is correct. How's that possible?
@random_potato7267
@random_potato7267 5 жыл бұрын
they're** You know I had to do it to em
@matthewtremain683
@matthewtremain683 5 жыл бұрын
@@NekkeDeez wrong. The OP did it right.
@Jon717
@Jon717 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Tremain OP edited their comment.
@tedgegi155
@tedgegi155 5 жыл бұрын
Highly suggest having your finger ready to hit "pause" to analyze properly the graphics in this video.
@Th3Siam
@Th3Siam 5 жыл бұрын
4:08 what is this background music called
@ITGCofficial
@ITGCofficial 5 жыл бұрын
There are no pci express lanes .I mean the 9900k is a good chip (even though it is hot) but i need those sweet sweet pci express lanes :(
@nexxusty
@nexxusty 5 жыл бұрын
Then you aren't a gamer, because we don't.
@ITGCofficial
@ITGCofficial 5 жыл бұрын
@@nexxusty well when u have an nvme a capture card u will beg to disagree
@deus_nsf
@deus_nsf 5 жыл бұрын
@@ITGCofficial why not use amd ? Ryzen has 20 pci express lanes on consumer cpus, and if you really lack some, put your gpu to pcie x8 mode, unless you have a 2080ti you wont see any difference.
@ITGCofficial
@ITGCofficial 5 жыл бұрын
@@deus_nsf that's the point I have a 2080ti
@deus_nsf
@deus_nsf 5 жыл бұрын
@@ITGCofficial rip then !
@bryantquin-ajanihendrix543
@bryantquin-ajanihendrix543 5 жыл бұрын
There is a fake account going around offering a fake giveaway. Be aware
@aviozstudio4903
@aviozstudio4903 5 жыл бұрын
Those people are so Stupid to make fake account to do that
@bryantquin-ajanihendrix543
@bryantquin-ajanihendrix543 5 жыл бұрын
@@aviozstudio4903 fr. I just blocked them
@Ragssssss
@Ragssssss 5 жыл бұрын
Which account ? How you know it's fake ?
@bryantquin-ajanihendrix543
@bryantquin-ajanihendrix543 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ragssssss Its name is Linus Tech Tips. And if they contact you, it's obvious buddy. And its not the real Linus.
@hyakinthos_0902
@hyakinthos_0902 5 жыл бұрын
@@bryantquin-ajanihendrix543 its name is john cena tutdutuuuu
@MrZombiefoetus
@MrZombiefoetus 5 жыл бұрын
Those earring are straight out of 1997. Time to update your body's OS, Linus.
@pizzafrenzyman
@pizzafrenzyman 5 жыл бұрын
no kidding. my mom was wearing earrings back in the 60s.
@WestleyBates
@WestleyBates 4 жыл бұрын
old but ..gold i guess
@RokeJulianLockhart.s4eb2q
@RokeJulianLockhart.s4eb2q 3 жыл бұрын
​@@CitroenGames Body OS 2005.4.6 for me.
@strategicict2518
@strategicict2518 5 жыл бұрын
Is it worth waiting for the 9th gen processors on laptop or can I go with the 8th gen. Planning to get either Dell G7 or Asus SCAR II in January 2019. Yelp!
@mo2mo1mo
@mo2mo1mo 5 жыл бұрын
I bet Intel management watched this video and went like hmm are we really doing that?
@TitorEPK
@TitorEPK 5 жыл бұрын
I bet they didn't.
@muhammad2086
@muhammad2086 5 жыл бұрын
Nah I don't think so 🤔
@tech-wondo4273
@tech-wondo4273 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they watch Linus, He represents a lot of influence on CPU buyers world wide
@Pwnstared
@Pwnstared 5 жыл бұрын
I bet they don't even know who Linus is.
@twilightravens9798
@twilightravens9798 5 жыл бұрын
I bet Intel really doesn't care, they are just doing what they know will make them money. People will still buy their product if they don't change it, so why put all these expenses into changing all of this. Its how all mega corporations work sadly. Not hating on Intel because if AMD and Intel's places were switched I bet they'd do the exact same thing.
@_twmmst9848
@_twmmst9848 5 жыл бұрын
Threadripper 2950X works extremely well for compiling code of big projects.
@WarpedFlayme
@WarpedFlayme 5 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of analytical writing and content that I love to see out of this channel! Keep up the great work, all!
@JamesBondwarmachine
@JamesBondwarmachine 5 жыл бұрын
i have had few suggestion about my problem... but still wanted to confirm.. what chip would you recommend for a large scale data mining application. if this is the only major workload. thanks.
@MackV99
@MackV99 5 жыл бұрын
2019 is AMD's year... especially if Intel continues their business practices. the Ryze of Team Red shall be once more!
@nick0164
@nick0164 5 жыл бұрын
Amd is shit tho, and Intel has been running the game for years so I doubt it
@pikkons
@pikkons 5 жыл бұрын
AMD has the 64 core 128 thread epix processor that comes out next year
@ThecRL0
@ThecRL0 5 жыл бұрын
i heard that amd has been "running" the game before intel came up with their i series processors
@Balunliinfi
@Balunliinfi 5 жыл бұрын
Nope
@lee1210mk2
@lee1210mk2 5 жыл бұрын
Yung MemeLord If it wasn't for Amd, nearly everyone would still be paying 300+ for quad core intel cpus 🤣
@xXSilentAgent47Xx
@xXSilentAgent47Xx 5 жыл бұрын
AMD - Thanos Intel - Spider-Man: I don't feel so good.
@enby-girl5020
@enby-girl5020 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck, I forgot about this. I'm sad now :(
@williamli0722
@williamli0722 5 жыл бұрын
xXSilentAgent47Xx we are all sad now.
@Renopus
@Renopus 5 жыл бұрын
Rip Stan Lee
@hypermangi8265
@hypermangi8265 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. This so SAADDD... Alexa, delete yourself.
@gabrielgranadosg
@gabrielgranadosg 5 жыл бұрын
@xXSilentAgent47Xx xD
@Zlurz
@Zlurz 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm Intel reminds me of a GPU manufactured that has screwed consumers aswell. I wonder... will AMD come out and completely destroy Nvidia like it did to Intel in the CPU market ? Imagine if AMD did not exist? Intel and nvidia would absolutely destroy consumers with their greed
@catlover1986
@catlover1986 5 жыл бұрын
Intel invented processors. They have saved AMD from bankruptcy many times to prevent themselves from becoming a monopoly and stagnating the industry. Intel is actually a large owner of AMD. If you think Intel has screwed over consumers, you should recall that board games are the only games you would be playing without Intel, who invented CPUs.
@MrMe944
@MrMe944 5 жыл бұрын
you are stupid as shit @@catlover1986
@Falllll
@Falllll 5 жыл бұрын
@@catlover1986 That's not an excuse for not innovating.
@catlover1986
@catlover1986 5 жыл бұрын
+Fa11, they have innovated extensively. Their Core processors dominated for years, because they were the best in the world for a decade. Only now do they have competition, and they are still quite competitive. Right now, Intel is making leaps and bounds with innovation, not the least of which was their Optane solutions. Additionally, they have been working on a 7 NM architecture for some time but running into issues. Either way, this tech is expensive and time consuming to develop, but it cannot be argued that processors haven't improved massively in the last few years. Rather, Intel has been working on efficiency and optimization, and new features, rather than raw performance increases (as it isn't really a huge concern to make bigger single processor systems today). After all, we have multi-processor systems for servers and advanced computing, and we don't need really powerful processors for gaming because that's primarily GPU driven. The reality is that my old I7-920 could handle most Triple AAA games today quite well with the right GPU, and my modern several year old Xeon (basically an I7-4770) can handle all modern games on high settings with 8 GB of DDR5 graphics.
@LigeValkyrja
@LigeValkyrja 5 жыл бұрын
@@catlover1986 Intel owns AMD? Provide at least one credible source. Something like that happening would be picked up on immediately by experts in their respective industries.
@hw5362
@hw5362 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god thanks so much dude you’ve taught me so much I was super confused about cpu‘s/processors before this and have been trying to learn everything I can I was super confused with the difference between Ryzen and Intel chips but you’ve cleared up so much I love your videos man please keep it up and thanks.
@KangoV
@KangoV 5 жыл бұрын
My colleagues and I are compiling, compiling compiling all day. Every time you save a file , your code saves and tests run in the background (thanks Gradle). Those tests are massively parallel and will use as may threads you can throw at it. No GPU offloading here. Threadripper is a software developers dream! Integration testing as hugely asynchronous (our code anyway), so will load up cores nicely. Idle threads on Amazon AWS will cost you money.
@garrettk7166
@garrettk7166 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm... you've given me something to think about for my future build. Everything is pointing me towards Threadripper. Seems like the long-term moneymaking cpu, unless you're doing major gaming.
@FathinLuqmanTantowi
@FathinLuqmanTantowi 5 жыл бұрын
agreed, till there's videomaking software that do the same, linus will say "no real world load will need more core"
@gallantsoul8586
@gallantsoul8586 5 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment. These tech reviewers should take into consideration there are other kinds of real workloads besides just gaming & media manipulation.
@gz6616
@gz6616 5 жыл бұрын
I mostly do data analysis using python, so it implies that more cores won't make a difference, right?
@alswo9628
@alswo9628 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t Threadripper a bit of an overkill though? I’m thinking of just settle with 8C16T (2700x)
@AnimalFacts
@AnimalFacts 5 жыл бұрын
Yay for Capitalism.
@toxiccan175
@toxiccan175 5 жыл бұрын
Give this person a cookie. Not some communist eight year old.
@lorenzoiannuzzi3937
@lorenzoiannuzzi3937 5 жыл бұрын
@@mason2874 yeah neither was the French revolution huh?
@Z_Pavel
@Z_Pavel 5 жыл бұрын
da
@andy56duky
@andy56duky 5 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzoiannuzzi3937 don't forget the German facism and that mustashe freak.
@RLgamer13
@RLgamer13 5 жыл бұрын
People are slowly learning, capitalism is fucked
@Mo8585El
@Mo8585El 5 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, do you need to apply thermal compound on the new i9 - 9900k CPU's, because I heard they are designed differently?
@Plan36c
@Plan36c 5 жыл бұрын
All of you and your teams research and analysis is greatly appreciated.
@DSP1337
@DSP1337 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning Adobe. Would you mind making a rant video about their poor multicore optimization? I really annoys me that Adobe is not willing to optimize anything other than Intel + NV combos. Even a shitty 6 core CPU with a shitty midrange GPU performs about as good as a 16 core AMD CPU with a big Vega chip. That cannot and shouldnt be the future for content creators who are deeply invested into the Adobe workflow...
@Tschonni95
@Tschonni95 5 жыл бұрын
Use DaVinci Resolve ;)
@Lionheart1188
@Lionheart1188 5 жыл бұрын
"Adobe inside, the way it's meant to be rendered" Should be their new slogan.
@SOSOGUDRANA
@SOSOGUDRANA 5 жыл бұрын
Use vegas m8
@FireStarJutsu
@FireStarJutsu 5 жыл бұрын
Wow xD
@RazgrizWing
@RazgrizWing 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah and it really sucks because Vegas is becoming to limiting for my increasing workload.
@jesus2621
@jesus2621 5 жыл бұрын
i need more cores to watch youtube and use office
@WeMustSecureABetterTomorrow
@WeMustSecureABetterTomorrow 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus Alfonso I need even more cores to play minesweeper and solitaire
@tejaspadhye
@tejaspadhye 5 жыл бұрын
@@WeMustSecureABetterTomorrow lame cuz they both run on a single cores at the same time
@86joeperri
@86joeperri 5 жыл бұрын
I feel you I need more cores for all the pornh-- all these chrome tabs I have open.
@Malus1531
@Malus1531 5 жыл бұрын
Basically every AMD fan. Going on about cores and Threadripper even though almost none of them will actually use that many cores. Heck even 8 cores is kinda overkill for your average user/gamer. People acting like you need 8+ cores to "multitask" (i.e. run Discord & Chrome in the background); you don't.
@lopsangdlama
@lopsangdlama 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Xingularity
@Xingularity 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Very good take on the current status of CPUs.
@jerkaholic1467
@jerkaholic1467 5 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna get an i76700k and gtx 1080 soon is that good enough? Also my power supply only has 2 6 pin connectors when the gtx 1080 needs an 8 pin. Is that a problem?
@Warden64
@Warden64 5 жыл бұрын
Oh Intel, *WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!*
@juli12345istRecorsi
@juli12345istRecorsi 5 жыл бұрын
Warden ah fuck i cant believe you’ve done this.
@rkan2
@rkan2 5 жыл бұрын
Oh AMD, you beauty!*
@Name-ps9fx
@Name-ps9fx 5 жыл бұрын
Left hand didn’t know what the right hand was doing...
@Parasite...
@Parasite... 5 жыл бұрын
@P. Taylor why do you need more slots if you can download more ram?
@saiga8598
@saiga8598 5 жыл бұрын
@@Parasite... why do you download ram when you can download a whole PC?
@XyonVlogs
@XyonVlogs 5 жыл бұрын
A fake Linus Tech Tips friended me and say I won the give away I'm heartbroken
@nowonmetube
@nowonmetube 5 жыл бұрын
Same happened to me with a fake Nintendo account :(
@nowonmetube
@nowonmetube 5 жыл бұрын
@@XyonVlogs it should be possible to AT LEAST report them 😑
@nghkazuha6804
@nghkazuha6804 5 жыл бұрын
@@nowonmetube but nowdays youtube bots are stupid so these type of alts and thotbots are going around in the comments.
@shivamgagad5674
@shivamgagad5674 5 жыл бұрын
You do know you can report that to KZfaq right? 😳
@nowonmetube
@nowonmetube 5 жыл бұрын
@@nghkazuha6804 I've not seen a comment want the fake Nintendo account 😑 And it's still too likely for non in-depth users to fall for that!
@BallisticBird1
@BallisticBird1 5 жыл бұрын
For gaming and streaming and video editing, what cpu should I get?
@blackbeargear8884
@blackbeargear8884 5 жыл бұрын
Can you help steer me towards a new PC gaming/ video recording rig for 2019?? Im currently running a AMD 8350 with 16gigs ddr3, AMD 580 gpu corsair 750 PSU and some HDD, SDD drives.
@Toecuttah
@Toecuttah 5 жыл бұрын
So as I understand: Intel was holding back cores from consumer CPUs, offering them in very expensive HEDT processors. AMD comes out and offers high core count for consumers at an affordable price and forces Intel to up the core count on the consumer CPUs. Now HEDT is pointless because the only ace it had (lots of cores) is available for cheaper consumer CPUs. In addition to that, consumer CPUs have an advantage now by having a GPU in them, which HEDT does not. Is this correct?
@nopenoperson9118
@nopenoperson9118 5 жыл бұрын
Also note that users who require ECC now have a much cheaper option than Xeon Ws with Ryzen from R3 at the bottom all the way through to Epyc.
@seankurth4371
@seankurth4371 5 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Other than the reliability of ECC (most stable PC I've ever used by far) and the performance of a low-end i7 at a much lower price, the main reason I got a Xeon E3 was because it had a noticeably better integrated GPU than the consumer lineup. Most enterprise applications that aren't video editing don't need a discrete GPU, but anything doing any rendering at all will need *a* GPU, and accounting I'd imagine would prefer not to allow a CPU that doesn't come with one to be installed. Nobody has a real Xeon alternative though, so it's not like they killed the server market if they did get rid of the integrated graphics. Heck, they could charge $3k for a 2011 Celeron with no GPU that they label a Xeon because it supports ECC, and what else would there be to buy? AMD Opteron is a joke, nobody wants full APUs on a mostly-headless server.
@catlover1986
@catlover1986 5 жыл бұрын
+Sean Kurth, I agree with most of what you wrote, but AMDs EPYC is their answer, Opteron is dead.
@dreadfulbadger
@dreadfulbadger 5 жыл бұрын
I just built my first system. Glad i went with AMD.
@mattd3978
@mattd3978 5 жыл бұрын
Me too, first from scratch build a few months ago.
@rawful502
@rawful502 5 жыл бұрын
In case you are wondering, I just did the math between a i7-9700k and a Ryzen Threadripper 1920X. If each cpu was used for about 3-4 hours a day at 25% usage you would pay about $50 more a year in electricity for the 1920x (national average electricity pricing). Didn't think this would actually be a factor in buying CPU's but it is lol. Intel will actually save me money :/
@geraint1081
@geraint1081 5 жыл бұрын
@@rawful502 people don't use computers at 25% usage too often
@Maskinmester-DK
@Maskinmester-DK 5 жыл бұрын
Why? Because it's the slower Choice?
@xxryanxx2543
@xxryanxx2543 5 жыл бұрын
Arctic Wolf Your just trying to find any reason to say intel is better 😂😂
@TheManolis1984
@TheManolis1984 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and good to see that you included CAD applications to your benchmarks. It is true that almost all CAD applications benefit from clock speeds rather than core counts. However, as a design engineer myself, I have NEVER been in the situation that I will have only Solidworks/Creo/Intentor/Catia/NX openat any given time. I will have one or two of the aforementioned CAD packages open plus Autocad, plus 1 or 2 spreadsheets as a minimum, plus Outlook, plus whatever antivirus the company you work for has installed, a web browser and I will be running a 1st pass FEA or CFD simulation. On more extreme cases I will be having a full on CFD study running while I am working on CAD. That's why you need core counts.
@anything0122
@anything0122 5 жыл бұрын
What motherboard would you suggest for the i9 9900k. I'm hearing the new boards coming out are not really an upgrade from the 8th intel 1151 boards. Any suggestions for ddr4 ? Those are my last two pieces. Thanks in advance
@darrenraphael
@darrenraphael 5 жыл бұрын
Gigabyte Z390 Master, Gigabyte Z390 elite or Gigabyte Z390 Ultra.
@doctorgaming8791
@doctorgaming8791 5 жыл бұрын
Now it's time for AMD to make it's own version of the 9900K, just faster and cheaper and better. *EDIT*: Wow, thank you all for the likes! This is my first comment ever to get over 150 likes.... Maybe we could get to 300? :)
@lxrowe
@lxrowe 5 жыл бұрын
And with Blackjack.
@ObsidiaBeast
@ObsidiaBeast 5 жыл бұрын
they can't. They would've otherwise. Intel still reigns over the CPU market with better performance at literally everything. It will still take quite some time until AMD boosts up their single core speed to match Intels usability. And even if they do; AMD chips and cards are still the definition of power hungry room heaters. Intel is currently still winning in every single aspect besides price... Which.. is okay, since they are that much better
@Piupiumacher
@Piupiumacher 5 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidiaBeast actually Ryzern consumes significantly less than 8core i7 processors. And price always matters, since no Consumer needs real high end products anymore.
@zClaziK
@zClaziK 5 жыл бұрын
Amd is for cheap ass pussies
@aos32
@aos32 5 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidiaBeast Zen 2 will be a big upgrade according to the leaks so far. AMD always said Zen 2 would be a bigger upgtade than Zen+. It doesnt take much to absolutely destroy the 9900k. Especially when price is considered.
@DarkCloud360
@DarkCloud360 5 жыл бұрын
My next CPU will definitly be AMD
@jooplin
@jooplin 5 жыл бұрын
mine too, I love how AMD is making the market interesting again
@dragnet53
@dragnet53 5 жыл бұрын
I am still using my AMD FX6400 six core. It was strong during its time and still going. I am going to upgrade soon to the new Ryzen core though.
@codyv308
@codyv308 5 жыл бұрын
same, i just bought an r5 2600 to replace my i5 7400. definitely a purchase i dont regret
@ManunKanava
@ManunKanava 5 жыл бұрын
You are getiing a DELL with high speed AMtel Pentium R99Extreme prosessor with 100 Terabytes of cache.
@LannnR
@LannnR 5 жыл бұрын
Same here but gonna still use shit out of my 8700k
@ultramarineization
@ultramarineization 5 жыл бұрын
I need both the best single core perf and as many cores as possible what's the best compromise?
@walnas3a
@walnas3a 5 жыл бұрын
how would lanes come into the mix? Is that for Servers?
@StuninRub
@StuninRub 5 жыл бұрын
Excel spreadsheets, nothing tortures a processor and ram like Excel spreadsheets.
@Random_Bern
@Random_Bern 5 жыл бұрын
I particularly like the way Excel hits 100% CPU usage while *not* recalculating a sheet if you don't click the "click here to edit this workbook" button, a few minutes after opening a workbook over a network.
@megapro125
@megapro125 5 жыл бұрын
use .xlsb files instead of .xlsx and.xlsm or even .xls. As someone who regulary works with 50k+ rows worksheets I can tell you they are significantly faster. Only downside is they are harder to restore when the file is corrupted buit if you keep backups that shouldn't be a problem.
@StuninRub
@StuninRub 5 жыл бұрын
@@megapro125 Binary doesn't help much when it's frequently 300-400mb files with 600k-800k rows. Then you throw in 30 to 50 different functions and you can hear the processor's fans screaming for mercy while prompts about low memory pops up left an right. Should I be using SQL instead? Maybe. Do I have the patience to learn how to use SQL? A resounding NO. The only ever thing to match the demand of my spreadsheets is Lightroom when rendering a gigpixel panorama or focusing stacking 5gb+ of images on PS.
@megapro125
@megapro125 5 жыл бұрын
@@StuninRub You can set formulas to only update manually or try automating functions with VBA scripts that stop the rendering of the sheet alltogether during the calculation of your functions but with 400 mb files even that probably wont help a lot^^ (Also you probably have it disabled allready but if not: automatic formating based on cell content completely kills performance.)
@markkayser426
@markkayser426 5 жыл бұрын
@@StuninRub .. I used to use macros on spreadsheets like that. 20-30min later I would have a result. Then I took some time to script it in Python. Start and.. done in under 10sec. Although that means I don't need a super computer anymore. Hmmmm.... on second thought, those macros can't be replaced!
@zbeast
@zbeast 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you. best video ever. you have finally explained intel's processors and boards. I finally know what to buy and why to buy it. Good to see a video that's not about overclocking and case mods or glowing video cards and ram.
@ZazzilasArden
@ZazzilasArden 5 жыл бұрын
Just don't buy Intel. Problem solved.
@user-hh5pj5jv8p
@user-hh5pj5jv8p 5 жыл бұрын
Gaming and overclocking, and a very small amount of workload apps: Intel. Everything else: AMD
@atkin207
@atkin207 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest if you are just gaming you don't have to get the latest cpu either. I have no problems with the latest games using an i5 3570k which is 6½ years old.
@WinkysWorldPsionicParallax
@WinkysWorldPsionicParallax 5 жыл бұрын
@@atkin207 Depends on what you're running. Your setup might do fine for 1080p but 4k and 1440p is a different deal
@bastscho
@bastscho 5 жыл бұрын
@@atkin207 yeeehaw! My rig is also rocking an old i5 3570k!!! It's overclocked to up to 4.0 GHz and runs awesome. I mean i still can't use DDR4 nor do i have any huge multithreaded performance but for gaming it still rocks!
@ferntheplant1988
@ferntheplant1988 5 жыл бұрын
hey ive been watching youtube videos i need your help i got an i7 7700k cpu i wanna build a pc that plays starcraft 2 only and it starts up fast and it doesnt break down with over heating or background programs
@f.9344
@f.9344 5 жыл бұрын
I really like this kind of Videos with clearly visible sponsors. And for the very first time I probably get something through it. Nice
@DANNYonPC
@DANNYonPC 5 жыл бұрын
Intel is drunk I want what they're havin
@jacqueline6475
@jacqueline6475 5 жыл бұрын
Hey danny
@niki123489
@niki123489 5 жыл бұрын
hey buddy
@KushagraJuneja
@KushagraJuneja 5 жыл бұрын
Me 2
@fnige
@fnige 5 жыл бұрын
Intel, youre drunk, go home
@St3yn012
@St3yn012 5 жыл бұрын
hello person I recognize from the bf3 forums.
@skyhigh7221
@skyhigh7221 5 жыл бұрын
i have absolutely no idea what this video is saying i will never call myself tech savy again
@jotunheim5302
@jotunheim5302 5 жыл бұрын
AMD came out of nowhere and destroyed Intels convoluted product line up. Intel have been on the ropes ever since in the mainstream and HEDT markets.
@jotunheim5302
@jotunheim5302 5 жыл бұрын
@@x_x5009(H)igh-(E)nd (D)esk(T)op ..but I commend your effort.
@lyfhg
@lyfhg 5 жыл бұрын
@Multi gaming yes I think
@jotunheim5302
@jotunheim5302 5 жыл бұрын
@@x_x5009 I wouldn't recommend using your acronym face to face with a sales rep :D
@ZenMuff1n
@ZenMuff1n 5 жыл бұрын
Intel made a chip they didn't have to make and priced it so high it's even a little cruel to their fans.
@nascarfancar88
@nascarfancar88 3 жыл бұрын
is there a LGA 2066 gaming motherboard that I can run a Xeon W-2123 on ?
@heavylift47
@heavylift47 5 жыл бұрын
Eyyyy! A Thursday Boot ad! I've been following them for years, very nice. haha
@1983Corolla
@1983Corolla 5 жыл бұрын
So Intel got to comfortable and was sitting around making 400 thousand different CPU variations with slight power boosts over the years n AMD just make a couple affordable ones n blew them out of the water?
@catlover1986
@catlover1986 5 жыл бұрын
"Blew them out of the water". No. Became competitive? Yes. This is a healthy arms race. Intel has much deeper pockets and more R&D in the pipeline. AMD has unleashed their opening surprise attacks. We're still waiting for the empire to strike back. Intel will likely change their strategy over the next year, which should prove interesting. Consumers win either way. Let's be clear, AMD is as $25 Billion company. Intel is closer to a $250 billion company (over 10x value). Intel isn't going down that easily.
@Doing_It_Wrong
@Doing_It_Wrong 5 жыл бұрын
@@catlover1986 Intel doesn't have any choice but to go down that easily or change the way they do business. Most of their major business practices in the past have been proven unlawful. That's the source of Intel's success. So the reason AMD is doing so well is because it's been rightfully winning their lawsuits.
@kingdingaling9214
@kingdingaling9214 5 жыл бұрын
@@Doing_It_Wrong Lets not mistake AMD outselling Intel in the desktop consumer sector for 1 year as the death of Intel. Intel still makes the faster CPU, and still hold both the consumer & commercial market shares. Most importantly Intel still utterly dominates the laptop market which is by far the largest consumer CPU market. They also hold a 98% market share in data/sever sectors that make up most of their revenue.
@Doing_It_Wrong
@Doing_It_Wrong 5 жыл бұрын
@@kingdingaling9214 Absolutely correct. The only reason AMD is able to compete right now is because of the lawsuits they've won. Intel isn't dead or dying by any means.
@dinkthesink3890
@dinkthesink3890 5 жыл бұрын
Intel will be the next Nokia.confirmed.
@BrandonWestfall
@BrandonWestfall 5 жыл бұрын
Yo Linus, your URL for Thursday Boots is broken.
@Arc_Noir
@Arc_Noir 5 жыл бұрын
worked for me. here's the expanded link thursdayboots.com/?
@stevethea5250
@stevethea5250 5 жыл бұрын
Nice booties
@RayMak
@RayMak 5 жыл бұрын
Very solid advice for Intel
@saharshshukla4367
@saharshshukla4367 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly they aren't gonna take it.
@nuck477
@nuck477 3 жыл бұрын
2021 here, they removed 2 cores to improve single thread performance
@Elidarification
@Elidarification 5 жыл бұрын
3:00 Wait what about 6-core i7 5820K for example (2014)? Or is it not considered "consumer"?
@EposVox
@EposVox 5 жыл бұрын
I usually fill all of the PCIe slots in my systems w/ expansion cards... just not co-processing cards like the Red Rocket, heh.
@meruldhiman1565
@meruldhiman1565 5 жыл бұрын
Hi i am a huge fan of urs
@FoodRecipes108
@FoodRecipes108 5 жыл бұрын
Where to buy or order pc parts in canada i am recently shifted to canada from australia And as a student i need to save some money...
@SharpSh00ter43
@SharpSh00ter43 5 жыл бұрын
@@FoodRecipes108 canada computers is a good one, theres also Newegg.ca and memoryexpress
@joaobcrts
@joaobcrts 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, AMD!
@arcooke
@arcooke 5 жыл бұрын
This is what drives me nuts about the anti-AMD crowd. AMD brought a lot of positive, much-needed innovation to the CPU market.. even if you don't prefer their products, they still deserve some recognition for that. Intel has been so stagnant for so long, and if it wasn't for AMD's sweeping return to the market, they probably still would be. This benefits all of us, no matter what "team" you're on.
@AbuMO72MED
@AbuMO72MED 5 жыл бұрын
big Thank you AMD
@stevethea5250
@stevethea5250 5 жыл бұрын
N.ESS hopefully if more people back up AMD then innovation will keep moving?
@BlissOn47
@BlissOn47 5 жыл бұрын
Next*
@saghwteam
@saghwteam 3 жыл бұрын
I put this video in my Watch Later list 2 years ago and only got around watching it now
@RyanPursifull
@RyanPursifull 5 жыл бұрын
why does the X79 PCI-E revision say 2.0? My Gigabyte X79-UD3 says 3.0 on it
@MarvRetro
@MarvRetro 5 жыл бұрын
i'm still happy with my i7 6800K but the next upgrade will be AMD for sure.
@umadbro4493
@umadbro4493 5 жыл бұрын
have a 3770k and just bought really cheap a 1700 xD
@iset9634
@iset9634 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe R5 2600 or 2600x
@pronewbofficial
@pronewbofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Same, but that screenshot where the r7 beat it by a minute in rendering was kind of painful. I'm still looking to snag a used 6950x to replace it.
@TheLibero
@TheLibero 5 жыл бұрын
The same here with i5-6500 .. and sure the next will be AMD !
@sttate
@sttate 5 жыл бұрын
@@umadbro4493 Dear god, why? You know if you overclock a 3770K it should actually get *higher* framerates in gaming than a 1700? I understand if you're doing streaming or some multi-core workloads, but in gaming it's actually a downgrade unless your CPU is dying.
@MakenaKai
@MakenaKai 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if you bought AMD shares at 21$ before it shot up to 45-100/share
@MalekitGJ
@MalekitGJ 5 жыл бұрын
@riousgeorgieo 18/12/02 AMD share price: $21.32 Intel share price: $49.26 **claps slowly**
@JSXSProductions
@JSXSProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine buying Domino's at $200. #SponsorMeDominos
@JGnLAU8OAWF6
@JGnLAU8OAWF6 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if you bought Bitcoin when it first appeared...
@MikeMessiah
@MikeMessiah 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine buying land in Dubai during the 1960s for $100/sqft
@ryanaegis3544
@ryanaegis3544 5 жыл бұрын
I actually own AMD stock. It hasn't been above about $34 (at least not in five years, I don't know about earlier), and that was the peak. It currently sits at about $20. Still a good buy if you got it cheap, but even better if you sold it at its peak. It has lost all of the gains it made in the last three months. Still, I think it is a good long term buy. Just got to get in at the right price.
@ZiggyMercury
@ZiggyMercury 2 жыл бұрын
About 15 years ago or so, I remember looking for a new (desktop) PC and seeing that on top of "Core2Duo", that now offer "Core 2Quad" processors. Back then I thought to myself that probably within a year they'd sell 8-core processors, then a year later 16-core processors and, by the time I'll buy my next computer, it'll probably have 64 or 128 cores (it's just that this is what usually happens with widely-known computer parts; 25 years ago my computer had 16 MB of RAM, and today it has 32,000 MB of RAM...). So, anyway, I was very surprised to learn - maybe a decade later, when I finally had the money to buy a good laptop - that even the Core i7 still has just 4 cores, just like 10 years ago.
@calmavato
@calmavato 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna start pc gaming. What do you recommend?
@thelastcube.
@thelastcube. 5 жыл бұрын
Credits to Intel for giving single core performance competition but God am I thankful for AMD for not only making 8 cores mainstream but also pumping up the APUs performance in this GPU crisis, they're Godsend
@Krisztian5HUN
@Krisztian5HUN 5 жыл бұрын
what " in this GPU crisis"?
@TuanLe-eb5yp
@TuanLe-eb5yp 5 жыл бұрын
Chaitanya Singh really ? U mean cheap gpu flood ? Where have u been for the last half year ?
@nexxusty
@nexxusty 5 жыл бұрын
@@TuanLe-eb5yp yeah, I don't think buddy here realizes that Ethereum is dead
@OldmanKorsaks
@OldmanKorsaks 5 жыл бұрын
APUs are the salt of the earth.
@Str8GasGenetics
@Str8GasGenetics 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great time for gpus can get used RX 470-580 cards for about $120
@Ali107
@Ali107 5 жыл бұрын
*I can't believe you've done this!*
@amanc9835
@amanc9835 5 жыл бұрын
Ali107 quick question would a 6gb of vram 1060 pair well with an i7 2600
@doritos1081
@doritos1081 5 жыл бұрын
@@amanc9835 Yes, maybe you´ll get a little bottleneck in some games , but it´s a good combo (remember that the rx 580 is cheaper)
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@samuelconsuegra1206
@samuelconsuegra1206 5 жыл бұрын
*o o f*
@amanc9835
@amanc9835 5 жыл бұрын
Doritos MLG I appreciate it
@pacific322
@pacific322 4 жыл бұрын
That was a lot of information. You took me to school with this one. Great video!
@f1racer908
@f1racer908 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for an insightful and helpful dissecting analysis, few would nail on target 🎯
@nboejui
@nboejui 5 жыл бұрын
392 Intel fan boys who payed 2000$ for 8+ cores
@Goliath1337
@Goliath1337 5 жыл бұрын
True, but it's Paid*
@mahirooyama9424
@mahirooyama9424 5 жыл бұрын
No it’s paided
@Inhumane
@Inhumane 5 жыл бұрын
No it’s paying
@Raptorman0909
@Raptorman0909 5 жыл бұрын
I have a three year old 4K video editing box I built around the i7-5820K CPU that is mildly OC'd, but although it handles H.264 OK it doesn't do so well with H.265. Neither my CPU nor my GPU (EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Gaming ) handles H.265 natively or well and I'm wondering where we are now, three years later, for 4K video editing of H.265.
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 5 жыл бұрын
Very educational and good industry feedback. Will wait and see how the dust settles. Hopefully better for consumers.
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 5 жыл бұрын
Core i3, at least used to in many cases, support ECC, though the platform cost rose significantly (more than double the price for a motherboard)
@andrewbautista23
@andrewbautista23 5 жыл бұрын
went to pc shop yesterday and salesman asked what's my cpu. i said i5-3550. he laughed and replied "is that a 1st generation. you need some new 8th gen sir". i then just bought a $150 gpu, and is now rocking 60fps 1080p gaming. who needs a coffee lake? Ivy bridge still rockin!
@dhkatz_
@dhkatz_ 5 жыл бұрын
1080p lul
@TrueZutyro
@TrueZutyro 5 жыл бұрын
@@dhkatz_ You do you, man
@spectre722
@spectre722 5 жыл бұрын
pfft dont kid yourself... my 3570k is starting to choke..
@jacobgame2757
@jacobgame2757 5 жыл бұрын
But posh having a 3550. I'm still rocking a 3450 overclocked to 4.1Ghz.
@hrq007
@hrq007 5 жыл бұрын
I'm still rocking the i5 3570 and my wife has the i7 3770. Awesome chips. Not planning on replacing them anytime soon.
@dhrumil_108
@dhrumil_108 5 жыл бұрын
As a mechanical design engineer I can definitely say having more cores while working on complex 3D models or performing FEA simulation drastically reduce time.. definitely worth it, Linus you are right it's a great time to build a PC.
@mviv6339
@mviv6339 5 жыл бұрын
What do u design ?
@dhrumil_108
@dhrumil_108 5 жыл бұрын
@@mviv6339 I had worked in safety equipment development, I am currently working with pressure relief valve, where FEA simulation is needed
@dhrumil_108
@dhrumil_108 5 жыл бұрын
@Viper unfortunately here in India there is no such thing, computer parts are very expensive, there are some good online hardware shops but prices of hardware are generally 40 $ more expensive than regular prices., For example Ryzen 2600 is priced here around 16500₹ which is around 236$ (USD).
@mviv6339
@mviv6339 5 жыл бұрын
@@dhrumil_108 .oil or gas relief valve ?
@dhrumil_108
@dhrumil_108 5 жыл бұрын
@@mviv6339 it's pneumatic valves
@prashanthb6521
@prashanthb6521 5 жыл бұрын
I am writing a Python code with multiprocessing library. Can a older AMD FX-8350 (2.2Ghz 8Core) equal a new Ryzen 3 or 5 in speed ? My work is mostly integer/float calculations and generating charts. Or should I HAVE TO purchase new ryzens ? I am trying to avoid costs.
@laurelsporter4569
@laurelsporter4569 5 жыл бұрын
It won't match a new Ryzen 5, for sure. If you can get about 100% time on all cores, it might *approach* the lowest end of Ryzen 3s, though (while using 2x to 4x the power from the wall). You should check your library's performance with Intel vs. AMD, though, and try to track how well your code actually scales out. Some perform about the same on either, while others are much better on one or the other (in the FOSS world, it's not always in favor of Intel). If it can scale out, and AMD performs well, the Ryzen 5 and 7 line-ups have a number of CPUs that are very good values. If it should perform better with Intel, though, get an i5 or i7.
@xplorethings
@xplorethings 5 жыл бұрын
What's the song playing around 2:00 ?
@ErnestJay88
@ErnestJay88 5 жыл бұрын
Bye bye my 3770k now I'm switching to Ryzen 2700x
@AlexLionson
@AlexLionson 5 жыл бұрын
You can wait for Ryzen 2, you will not get a huge boost with 2700x in games for example. And zen 2 is not that far away.
@coolmemesbudd
@coolmemesbudd 5 жыл бұрын
Ernest Jay Thats more than 6 years of cpu age and you’ve never upgraded within that time?
@heyitsmejm4792
@heyitsmejm4792 5 жыл бұрын
A 3770k overclocked to 4.5ghz won't even bottleneck a 1070 so yea...
@hoen2009
@hoen2009 5 жыл бұрын
@@heyitsmejm4792 clock speed is not everything, newer chips will work more efficient and will give you overall better FPS.
@TiagoMorbusSa
@TiagoMorbusSa 5 жыл бұрын
I came from a 4670k to a 2700X and boy oh boy is it a heck of a performance jump. Obviously in encoding, but games run so much better now, load times really improved, even in old 20 year old games!
@carlolmstead518
@carlolmstead518 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Linus is such a sell-out. He abandoned the socks and sandals train for boots!!!!!!!
@dogfruit69
@dogfruit69 5 жыл бұрын
$200 boots to be clear. And the jackets are $500. And there's no LTT sponsor code for a discount.
@tombstoner6360
@tombstoner6360 5 жыл бұрын
So do I need to upgrade my Intel Power PC Macintosh?
@jumpingman8160
@jumpingman8160 5 жыл бұрын
So ... Which one should I get for a pc just for audio work?
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