Intel's Forgotten i7

Intel's Forgotten i7 | i7-5775C

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Testing the Intel i7-5775C quad core CPU in 10 popular and demanding games in 2023, using an RTX 3070 discrete GPU.
In the history of Intel's modern CPUs, only one generation has been largely forgotten. The 5000 series, known by its architectural name of Broadwell, didn't see many versions released at retail. Most of those that did release were found in laptops, or in the 6000 series HEDT and v4 Xeon ranges.
There were only two models of desktop CPU available for sale; in this video, I look at the i7-5775C; a CPU that managed to be innovative even within the confines of the quad core CPU paradigm of 2015, but which Intel promptly forgot about shortly after release. Can its much-vaunted 128MB "L4 cache" help Broadwell find new life in 2023?
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00:00 i7-5775C vs. 2023
00:43 Background: History of the i7-5775C
02:53 Test System: i7-5775C @ 4.2GHz, 16GB DDR3-2400, RTX 3070
03:14 Gaming Benchmarks
03:17 Benchmarks: Valorant
04:08 Benchmarks: Battlefield V
04:48 Benchmarks: Fortnite
05:34 Benchmarks: Microsoft Flight Simulator
06:13 Benchmarks: Spider-Man Remastered
07:13 Benchmarks: Cyberpunk 2077
07:46 Benchmarks: Red Dead Redemption 2
08:32 Benchmarks: Elden Ring
09:16 Benchmarks: Witcher 3 Remastered
09:54 Benchmarks: Civilization VI
10:23 Synthetic Benchmarks: CPU-Z, Cinebench R23, Time Spy & Firestrike
10:43 Is the i7-5775C still a good CPU?
11:34 Iris Pro 6200 integrated graphics
12:37 iGPU Benchmarks
16:23 Is the Iris Pro 6200 iGPU any good?
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@DigitalJedi Жыл бұрын

The 5775C walked so the 5800X3D could run. Some of the engineers behind Broadwell would go on to work on that CPU as well, which I think really shows the heritage there. You can even see some Broadwell-like behavior and design decisions in Zen3 if you go looking for it. Things like moving to a physically larger core and the extended L4 cache (7900X3D & 7950X3D).

@CrocoDylianVT Жыл бұрын

If you can't with your enemy, join them

@DigitalJedi Жыл бұрын

@Croco Dylan Ch. Not so much that. A couple of my current colleagues worked at Intel at the time and from the stories I've heard, a lot of contracts were ending with Broadwell.

@razorsz195 Жыл бұрын

Planning on an upgrade to the 5800x3D from my 4930k because i need a big cache boost, though my old 1150 system with a 4770k could have a 5775C popped in if i found one for cheap, reminds me of when external motherboard cache was a thing, filling all those slots for a whopping 256KB L2 cache!

@Sam-K Жыл бұрын

Wow. I always kinda assumed that Broadwell was just a die-shrunk Haswell on Intel's legendary/cursed 14nm process.

@Gabu_ Жыл бұрын

Zen doesn't have L4 cache, its extended L3 cache is still L3 accessed as L3 at L3 speeds.

@gippygames Жыл бұрын

I remember Tech Report's review of the 6700K, but it suddenly out of nowhere crowned the 5775C the winner over it. Chaos ensued as the price of the 5775C soared (up to 2X the 6700K) after that article was published. That's what the 5775C was about: the flagship LGA1150 part, a great upgrade for Haswell users, soundly beating the 6700K and 7700K in games, and maybe the 8700K too. RIP Tech Report, by the way. One of the best computer journalism sites to have ever existed.

@Turbobuttes Жыл бұрын

The 3D V-cache of 2015. 10-20% improvement in a ton of games thanks to the L4 is very impressive, and even though you could as well just buy an unlocked Haswell chip for a budget rig it's good to know that you're not losing much, if anything, by picking up one of these instead if you're into oddball hardware. And aren't we all at least a little bit into oddball hardware?

@neonbluejonas8352 Жыл бұрын

We are... We are.

@bhume7535 Жыл бұрын

Oh we are. My A770 has been great.

@alupangguam7560 Жыл бұрын

Anyone with a Z97 board + 4790K or 4690K can simply swap out to i7-5775C and instantly leapfrog past 7700K performance and perhaps even 8700K using 3000 MHz DDR3.

@HeartOfAdel 6 ай бұрын

@@alupangguam75605775c is nowhere near 8700K 3000mhz ram. You're basically comparing it to 5600x performance now. Myths aside, it won't even come close to ram tuned 7700K, around their stock level at best.

@richardsaumier9948 Жыл бұрын

i own an I7-577C, i bought it over the I7-4970k due to it's lower TDP. The 500Mhz lower clock was not an issue for me as the die shrink i assumed would make up most of the speed difference. It would be easier to cool, last longer and pay the power bill. I currently have it paired with a GTX 1060 6GB card, for the kids gaming system. I have never seen it over 75% before the 1060 hits it's limit and the i7-5775c never goes above 56 degrees celsius maxed out with an 212 EVO cooler. I never regret not buying the 4970k.

@kgeo2686 9 ай бұрын

I feel my 4770k is bottle necking my system. I have a 1080ti and of course 16 gb ram. I don’t want to make a new build. Do you think it will make a difference to upgrade to the i7 5775c? Ps: my motherboard does not allow over clocking

@jacklang2349 7 ай бұрын

Hi, not really a big difference, maybe only in the game who make a good boost with the L4 @@kgeo2686

@TheLucidDreamer12 6 ай бұрын

@@kgeo2686if you can find one at a great price, sure, but on the US and EU markets, these are $200 bare minimum. The lowest ever price I've found for one is $90 + tax and shipping on Taobao, a Chinese site

@hamzadaddak238 3 ай бұрын

@@kgeo2686nah the i7 4770k is still capable cpu turn up the graphics to the highest settings lol change the cpu only if you're not satisfied with gaming experience on esport

@wooof8153 Жыл бұрын

Recently for a budget build for a friend I upgraded a Dell t5810 with a xeon e5 2697 v3 14c 28t, 32gb ram, and a GTX 1070 for under $300. Haswell-E has a lot of great firmware hacks available such as all core turbo unlock, undervolting, and injecting resizable bar support. Haven't tried Broadwell-E but I know there's no all core turbo

@toseltreps1101 Жыл бұрын

how can you enable resizable bar on haswell-e?

@wooof8153 Жыл бұрын

@@toseltreps1101 There's a good video by miyconst hardware you can find by searching "x99 resizable bar" (putting link in comment got comment blocked).

@krusic22 Жыл бұрын

@@toseltreps1101 Miyconst made a good video about it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMl6d7p-1d7Umnk.html Depends on the GPU, but sometimes, after you enable ReBar (with the OS utility), you don't get video output till Windows boots. So, be mindful of that.

@Musyaaaa Жыл бұрын

@@toseltreps1101 watch miyconst video about that

@jforce321 Жыл бұрын

@@toseltreps1101 You usually have to use modded bioses. Resizable bar has existed for a lot of years it's just not something that is normally enabled in older hardware even if it supports it. It's how you get instances where you can get Chinese x79 boards with m.2 support.

@WayStedYou Жыл бұрын

The OG 5800X3D Cache Rules Everything Around Me.

@ilyamur885 11 ай бұрын

5775c was just wow. My friends bought modded 4980hq (l4 too, but with much higher clocks and OC potential) from aliexpress and used in desktop mobos. OC'ed to 4.8ghz (also OC'ed l4 cache) and... it was insane (youtube has some videos about these beast cpu's). What the history, I really like large cache idea.

@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst Жыл бұрын

i would love to see a video about intels nicest cpu: the i7 6950x

@bojinglebells Жыл бұрын

would love to see it as well, but being an unlocked, 10 core Broadwell part, its still relevant enough to command a premium; it is easily more than twice as expensive as this already expensive (relative to the other recycled CPUs on the chart) 5775C

@h1tzzYT Жыл бұрын

Damn this desperately needed 4790k benches in here too. Back in 2017 i had the option to go with this one rather than 4790k but due to reviews at the time and relatively low clockspeed i decided to pick 4790k over 5775c. Its kind of interesting that broadwel on lga 1150 was so neglected by media, testing methodologies were terrible back then, it was ahead of its time. Oc'd 4790k vs this one would be very interesting comparison.

@Pixrl3491 Жыл бұрын

4790k oced is about the same to stock 7700, 5775c is better

@h1tzzYT Жыл бұрын

@@Pixrl3491 i think you are jumping the guns here

@majicalpandatech Жыл бұрын

@@h1tzzYT they should be similar if you use really nice ram and oc even then the 5775c should be slightly better. At least from my experience

@h1tzzYT Жыл бұрын

@@majicalpandatech i can believe that for sure, but i think it will depend on the game, whether it takes advantage of that l4 cache or not, 4790k can oc to ~4.8ghz without big issues especially delidded, with 2400mt/s of dual rank ram it should be really tough fight against stock 7700k and 5775c. Overall i think 5775c brings better user experience than 4790k because you dont really gain that much from oc so leaving it stock is fine, thus much lower temps. Just pair it with good ddr3 ram and rock on.

@alupangguam7560 Жыл бұрын

Not neglected, Broadwell-C was intentionally downplayed and ignored by US mainstream shill sites like Tom's, Anandtech, etc. All advised to keep 4790K and wait for Skylake. Then I read a review of i7-5775C from Sweden's Sweclockers and knew the i7-5775C was THE beast for gaming, destroying 4790K and 6700K. Even today, holds up with 7700K OCed to 5GHZ.

@alupangguam7560 Жыл бұрын

Just finished building my 3rd passively cooled Z97 Broadwell-C (i7 5775C & i5 5675C) machine. The Iris Pro HD 6200 iGPU runs Unreal Tournament 99 at over 150 fps @ max details & 1080p. And with a discrete video card unlocking the 128mb L4, these CPUs are still relevant today--on par with i7 8700K. Great Linux CPU!

@ReikazeRambles Жыл бұрын

I wish we talked about the 5775C more. What an interesting chip and very ahead of it's time.

@titan_fx Жыл бұрын

It's kinda like X3D version of Haswell. Too bad these chips were in development for too long, it closing on the release date of Skylakes. So yeah, Intel just kinda 'cancelled' desktop Broadwell altogether. Edit: Hey, can you test the 'Hades Canyon' NUC? it's kinda interesting that Intel built-in system had Vega graphics. I kinda wonder why it never took off on the laptop/SFF market.

@MendAmar Жыл бұрын

because Intel had no competition, thus cancelling it altogether. the L4 cache was a brilliant idea overall, I wish Intel brought it back with great optimization and releasing it with like the KS lineup when AMD announces it's X3D chips

@CaptainKenway Жыл бұрын

@@MendAmar The L4 cache was still MUCH slower than what AMD are doing now with the stacked cache. It's honestly not that much faster than accessing fast DDR4, either in latency or bandwidth terms. In fact, it's outright slower if you really go to town tuning it on a modern Intel platform. Intel have their own cache stacking technology in development, but it's not ready yet. Maybe in a few years you'll see gaming-focused Intel SKUs with tons of cache.

@Gabu_ Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainKenway Intel should pray it doesn't become another sapphire rapids scenario where they have to delay release for multiple years, ending up completely outclassed by AMD. One thing is for sure - Intel finds playing from behind extremely difficult.

@runninginthe90s75 Жыл бұрын

This Intel Core i7-5775C already exists way long before AMD announce their overrated 3D V garbage. Sadly AMD fanboy denied the history and acting like grandma LisaCuck is the one who made this technology.

@xfastxeddiex 8 ай бұрын

check out intels bean canyon iris 655 compared it as well

@jasonandrews7355 Жыл бұрын

Geez Iceberg, you're closing in on 25k subs! I started watching when you were somewhere around 1-2k, and have been enjoying your stuff ever since. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow even more!

@Karti200 Жыл бұрын

Nice video as always :) tho i7-5775C is not really that forgotten i think that i7-8709G is more forgotten - the wierd Intel with Vega M on a chip - something almost useless on windows, but amazing on Linux (thank you open drivers)

@stanb1455 Жыл бұрын

Intel should make a Modern 8709G with their Arc Graphics and maybe keep it unlocked if the temps at stock aren't too bad.

@Karti200 Жыл бұрын

@@stanb1455 I still got an Hades Canyon with Linux over it and i can say that i can play many older titles without an issue - even without any termal problems tho i agree that it could have a bit.. better cooling, was even thinking about making some kind of 3d printed case for it :/

@DigitalJedi Жыл бұрын

@Stan B Rumor has it that 14th gen will have a tiled Battlemage iGPU. Iirc it's expected to be performing similar to the B360 or A380. Not huge, but 1650ish on an iGPU would be going blow for blow with RDNA2 in the current 6000 series.

@Gabu_ Жыл бұрын

@@DigitalJedi while theoretical performance is likely to be good-ish, it will suffer from the same issues as AMD's iGPUs, severely lowering real world performance. Since Ryzen 7000 APUs are projected to only slightly outclass a 1650, I doubt Intel will get that far (unless they allow for MASSIVE TDPs, which, to be fair, isn't unlike them)

@zextakamania2086 Ай бұрын

Wow, that’s one of the weirdest CPUs I’ve seen. Expected a normal laptop CPU with AMD’s iGPU like Ryzens, and not a shared die with a Vega chip with HBM2 memory. Though it kind of makes sense as HBM needs to be close to the core and is overall smaller than GDDR making the whole setup more compact in some way, despite the die being gigantic compared to conventional GPUs. Would be cool to see something similar, but more advanced

@abhinavasna4680 Жыл бұрын

Hi Nice video I would recommend you to make a video on 4 core 8 Thread Haswell chips such the i7 4790k (preferred ) or i7 4770k As those were the highest performing chips on lga 1500

@XionLuis Жыл бұрын

Hey Iceberg! Would it be possible for you to make a video, like this one, on the monster E5-2699 (or 2696) V4? I'd love to see what a 22 core 44 thread broadwell-EP behemoth can do in 2023!

@RevDrCCoonansr Жыл бұрын

I love the name and avatar.

@XionLuis Жыл бұрын

@@RevDrCCoonansr Thank you!

@fv101 Жыл бұрын

Bro we need l4 cache on modern cpus

@adammarks4491 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the coverage on that obscure CPU! I'm going to hold on to it for a little more lol. BTW, the L4 cache also made appearance on some mobile and desktop R-sku Haswell/Skylake/Kabylake CPUs with GT3e tier integrated graphics. Tho most of them were used in Apple MacBooks and iMacs.

@muggsHD Жыл бұрын

a very interesting CPU, I'd forgotten all about it. great video as usual

@thepezfeo Жыл бұрын

I stumbled across the i7-5775c and i5-5675c several years ago when looking to build a cheap Haswell pc. Most of the supply I found of these Broadwell processors were pulled from Macs in China.

@atour4032 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always!

@Hjominbonrun Жыл бұрын

I am curious about those old CPU's and how they may have improved due to better OS multithreading, especially with the Vulcan stuff and DX12.

@AA-bi7pw Жыл бұрын

In principle, the i7 4790K and i7 5775C perform about the same, but the most interesting piece of the puzzle is efficiency

@livingthedream915 Жыл бұрын

they were well utilized even back then, unless you were running 6 cores or an FX processor going from windows 7 to 10 doesn't really give you much of anything different from what you already got, if anything the 4c 4 thread chips were penalized.

@BenitoiteBaTiSi Жыл бұрын

*VULKAN

@AA-bi7pw Жыл бұрын

@Old Liquid I mean performance per watt

@Hjominbonrun Жыл бұрын

@@BenitoiteBaTiSi You are a massively parallel processing error checking and correcting machine. So I am sure you know what I meant.

@nupagagyi Жыл бұрын

Imagine this EDRAM coming back. Intel would only marketing with that.

@MusicHavenSG Жыл бұрын

To be fair, the 5775C is not bad at all. I did use the Iris 5100 on my MBP before. It's pretty good for multimedia.

@auntiepha8343 Жыл бұрын

👍This era, I had a i3 4370 CPU and a EVGA 650ti and then a 760. I was poor as dirt back then and built the PC with any penny I could scratch together. It was my weakest, ugliest and cheapest gaming PC ever but it is also my favorite. I was sooo poor and it brought so much joy.

@JamesSmith-sw3nk Жыл бұрын

Good video! That last 5fps to get to 60fps in Elden Ring seems hard to get for a LOT of cpus. 🤔

@mannduro Жыл бұрын

Sometimes it's a lock at 60 with RTSS that helps. The engine on sonic all-star racing transformed is jumping from 58 to 60 back and forth . Doesn't matter how good your CPU is. Lock it with a tool and keep it steady

@arthurbrax6561 6 ай бұрын

completely forgot about these L4 Cache CPUs from Intel crazy.

@Fly_By_Gaming Жыл бұрын

3 days 1000 subs, your channel is really growing.

@Fenrirsleash Жыл бұрын

Your music is one of the best parts of the videos….. makes them all epic

@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын

Yes, I owe my recent growth 100% to Backing Track!

@MrSamadolfo 5 ай бұрын

😏👍 very cool, thanks for the review, i'm currently building with a haswell board and was looking at the cpu support list and this chip was on the list and got me curious? i never heard of broadwell consumer desktop chips, so i entered the sku on utube and u popped up, thanks for the throwback video, if ur wondering the exact board im putting together is called the Asus Z97 Deluxe, it looks kinda pricey, it has alot of features u dont really see even on z790 boards, it has a two digit display, on the board it has a power button, reset button, cmos button, and bunch of dip switches, and the integrated sounds card looks kinda beefy with alot more capacitors. Thanks again and Be Good 😇🙏

@Hiiamthelren 9 ай бұрын

I love my i7-5775C!! Upgraded from an i5-4690K I purchased new around release, to help the current PC be better equipped these days. I chose 5775C over the 4790K because I was too interested in it to care ab some overused cpu everybody’s got. Worth it. Got it for like $72 on eBay less than a couple months ago. People pay attention too much at the paper numbers, the 5775C is better than the 4790K in real world. I mean I’ve seen it champ the 4790K in all sorts of bench tests anyway as well. Edit: Forgot to mention the whole DX12 capable feature of the 5775C

@dennysgrimaldi9623 Жыл бұрын

Nice video, i would like to see how an FX 8350 will fit in that charts.

@REgamesplayer Жыл бұрын

Seems like a history is repeating itself to some degree with Meteor lake.

@denikec Жыл бұрын

This cache thing is really interesting, exactly now with the Ryzens and their 3DVCache.

@SpeedIng80 Жыл бұрын

Playing games with a DDR3-System these days seems to depend strongly on the ram speed. I have a Xeon E3-V4 1285L, quite similar to the i7 5775c but with locked multiplier of course (but it clocks 3,4 / 3,8 GHz). I have 32GB of Kingston HyperX DDR3-1866 installed and was wondering about quite frequent stutters in modern games. Overclocking the ram to 2400 with some softer timings (11-12-12-35) did the trick. I still have to verify with some more games, but the Far Cry 6 Benchmark dipped to the 40s before and now won't go below 60. EDIT: I may have to correct myself - Background processes were the cause for the stutters, the ram speed doesn't really matter as fas as I can see.

@waltergonzalezpaz5995 Жыл бұрын

I had an i3 7100 and I got pretty decent performance for games with the IGPU, really, it scored 63fps in Cinebench R15 OpenGL test. The trick was in memory timings. At 2400MHz I could play almost anything I threw to it.

@IngvarrKahn Жыл бұрын

I use my Xeon E3-1285l v4 with 3060 and 32 GB😄

@TacticalPhoenixYT Жыл бұрын

Despite my upgrade from a quadro m2000 to a 2080 ti, my workstation pc still uses the original xeon 2660 v4(broadwell). Despite the low core clock speed, it has 14 cores, and 35 mb or l3 cache. For some reason, despite people saying it would be trash for gaming, it has surprised me at every turn, giving remarkable fps despite single threaded games. I wonder if the 35 mb of l3 cache helps. Since this cpu can now be had for 50-100$, it would be cool to see you check it out!

@TnTTyler Жыл бұрын

This is good timing, I just built a system around a 5775c CPU because I always wanted one back in the day, paired it with a 4070ti.....bottleneck time!

@fv101 Жыл бұрын

Iceberg is amazing

@erikbritz8095 Жыл бұрын

*Love these older Quad cores plz test the i7 4790k my friend*

@yanagida_01 Жыл бұрын

you can fix the 30 FPS lock by either running the game on windowed borderless or alt tabbing or by turning vsync off and on again. I think it's an issue with RAGE's vsync, even at on or off it'll either lock it at 30fps or the pause menu becomes unusable. I've encountered this issue on different systems too, though it is less likely to happen on higher end hardware.

@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын

Hmm. Windowed didn't work any better for me, it was the first thing I tried because that's how I fixed the same issue with Valorant. I'll give the others a try sometime.

@grumpybollox7949 Жыл бұрын

proper content mate i love it

@IndellableHatesHandles 11 ай бұрын

This has even more cache than the 5800x3d. Imagine what that CPU could do with 128MB or even more.

@jacklang2349 7 ай бұрын

Hi, that's do many years now i have both : 5675c and the 5775c, i used the i5 for media center, but for gaming 2 to 4 players same screen, not going well now, switched to 9700T and it's still really better. The 5775c still in the kids gaming config, paired with a RX6600 XT, so it's very good , low power consumption config ;) The i-gpu of the broadwell is very low consumption, less than 5w if i remember correctly, that's was very impressive at his time. I remember that i made crazy tiny config just for the internet : with one ssd, 16Go DDR3 the i5 and one 22" screen, the total power consumption was under 50w with many firefox tabs, the powersupply was the V450S Gold, yep >80% efficiency at 25w (she beat all others 200-300w gold powersupply at that range, that's insane)

@DerrickRG91 Жыл бұрын

Pretty impressive to be honest. Looks like it's aged well with newer titles compared to stuff that came out around its time.

@colin1177 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video.

@Treeck57 Жыл бұрын

New Linux Kernel confirmed that Intel Meteor Lake will have L4 cache is for igpu, but I don’t know if it is specific for igpu use only or both igpu and cpu cache. Just a thought.

@HerbieHSSO Жыл бұрын

not for iGPU, in the patch discribes that LLC(last level Cache) only share data with CPU. WCCFtech doenst show this

@hoof8670 Жыл бұрын

the video i waited for.

@JadeIsler Жыл бұрын

keep up the amazing content

@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 Жыл бұрын

BFV results were pretty impressive.

@srquack27 Жыл бұрын

4:05 i felt that

@eclipsegst9419 Жыл бұрын

I still have one of these, and i plan to put it into a "windows 7 retro gaming pc" (ouch i feel old) so i can use the greatest OS ever again. Great little CPU, could still handle AAA over 60fps when i retired it from my son's PC last year.

@Francisco922 Жыл бұрын

Hot damn I love my Red Dead Cyberpunk Redemption 2-077 benchmarks xD nah just messin', baller video as always

@alyessamaddox7022 Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to compare this to a 5800x3D or a similar AMD chip. Obviously, the newer hardware will vastly outperform this one, but comparing the scaling each CPU sees from the addition of that larger cache could make for a fascinating video

@baoquoc3710 Жыл бұрын

well, intel accidentally made a 5800X3D back in its day, so it can be like that

@greatwavefan397 7 ай бұрын

@@baoquoc3710 We could consider the 5775c a "5500X3D"

@herttadash Жыл бұрын

I never commented on a video, but I can give you an advice: If you turn off processor c-states and overclock edram the Asus boards will disable whole edram. That is why you probably got lower results with edram overclocking. So turn on c-states and limit them to C6. Also I will suggest to overclock cache/uncore to 3700Mhz atleast, because it is very underclocked @ stock.

@haziqsofian 9 ай бұрын

I didnt know that disabling c stare would disable edram, i got asus board as well. Hmm need to turn those setting on

@jblcharge3_basstester Жыл бұрын

Please rry out the xeon e3 1231 v3 its amazing, keep up the great work!

@youzernejm Жыл бұрын

While that screenshot of Bruno getting to 4.3, from what I recall no one on the forums could push through 4.2. Heck, some people even changed the cooling, dropped the temperatures by a lot and gained 0MHz. It was just amazingly bad overclocker. Never seen one though, they've never been sold here, new or used. Personally though, I'd much rather see what locked 4770 and 4790 can do today. They seem as legit budget options still. Maybe.

@baroncalamityplus Жыл бұрын

I remember wanting to get a laptop with irs pro graphics. Glad I didn't.

@myedoxx Жыл бұрын

According to this video i7 5775C still rocks. eDRAM rules. According to another video it gives + 30% +90% FPS in games.

@slimal1 Жыл бұрын

Always wondered why no one ever mentions Broadwell

@mbibe Жыл бұрын

4:04 feels bad man 🤣

@Keys.Bradley.Racing Жыл бұрын

I just looked and these are selling for around £115 😳 I sold before Christmas a R7 2700x for that much! Will there be any Ryzen’s tested any time soon because first and second gen very affordable these days on the used market

@deagt3388 Жыл бұрын

I've thought the 5. series desktop CPU is skipped... ;-)

@zoson Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to an i7 6950x video.

@omegaPhix Жыл бұрын

What GPU do you run? You enable DLSS in almost every title

@MsIzzat91 Жыл бұрын

amazing cpu btw. i had this for years. I HAVE THIS on modded asus z97-p that has resizable bar enabled paired with 3060ti. i can say that it can run every games, yes even triple a titles at maxed setting(rtx enabled) at 60fps. literally almost no bottleneck if you just use it for gaming.

@MsIzzat91 Жыл бұрын

i mean on a 1080p resolution.

@greatwavefan397 10 ай бұрын

your pfp is cute

@MsIzzat91 10 ай бұрын

@@greatwavefan397 thanks. Its a character from a very old anime show 🥰🥰

@greatwavefan397 7 ай бұрын

@@MsIzzat91 which is it? I consider getting into anime later on so 👀

@dabombinablemi6188 Жыл бұрын

The i7 4790K that's in my friends PC has been starting to show its age. In newer games it bottlenecks my GTX 1070 (which has now replaced my friends RX 580) - which saw better performance in all games after I upgraded to the 3700X.

@FantasticGYT Жыл бұрын

Ryzen 5 3600 🤔 review someday?

@beavatatlan Жыл бұрын

when it turns 10 years old

@jacksonbtb571 Жыл бұрын

I was always curious how this chip performed, but I never bothered getting one since 4790ks always seemed cheaper and are better for gaming. The lower clockspeed really made these pointless to me. Very interesting video, and thanks for the details about the l4 cache. Info on this chip is kinda hard to find

@MasterBlaster220 8 ай бұрын

Thats nonsens. The 5775C beat the 6700K and even the 7000 series, but the Anandtech and Tomshardware frauds hid that by GPU bottlenecking. Techradar made that obvous back then. The huge L4 Edram Cache was ingeious, similar what AMD does with their cached L3.

@96dcowboy Жыл бұрын

What song is playing in the background during the tests?

@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын

The Doc Will See You Now by Backing Track.

@ristekostadinov2820 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if adding L4 cache is cheaper than vertically stacking SRAM modules (amd's 3d vcache) in terms of fabbing the chip

@mannduro Жыл бұрын

DIE size becomes bigger, therefore more expansiv. Guess why intel dropped the idea ;-)

@EAGYSL Жыл бұрын

It has to be cheaper but its also a lot slower

@mannduro Жыл бұрын

@@EAGYSL wasting space on a wafer is MORE EXPENSIVE

@EAGYSL Жыл бұрын

@@mannduro I was replying to @riste kostadinov

@mannduro Жыл бұрын

@@EAGYSL and I replied to you because it's wrong to assume an L4 version would be cheaper. Again. 2D space is EXPENSIVE.

@xBruceLee88x Жыл бұрын

The iris Pro should be pretty decent for video encode still

@jamieimbusch Жыл бұрын

How do you get NYC to run so smoothly on flight sim? I got a 5800X3D and that shit hitch all the time when loading your first pass of the city 😆

@IngvarrKahn Жыл бұрын

I have Xeon E3-1285l v4, same i7-5775c

@CavemanPerson Жыл бұрын

What's with that Xeon 1680 though?! Near the top of most of your charts and it's an IVY BRIDGE! I've been out of it for a while, so perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised to see most games finally make use of more than 4c/8t.

@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын

There's also the exceptionally large L3 cache. Most HEDT 8-cores had 20MB, the 1680 v2 had 25MB!

@CavemanPerson Жыл бұрын

@@IcebergTech It really is amazing how an 11 year old CPU architecture can still hang with the relatively recent models when more data is right there next to the core! It's a shame that the 1680 v2 doesn't feature AVX2 support. The current MSFT/Sony consoles both wield Zen 2 CPUs, so it wouldn't surprise me if more and more games start requiring AVX2 this year. Or, perhaps if more and more game developers start "forgetting" the AVX2 flag whilst compiling PC ports.

@bojinglebells Жыл бұрын

massive L3 cache (25MB, compared to 15MB on the 6-core 4960X, or 8MB on the 3770K), quad channel DDR3, and its unlocked and can hit ~4.2-4.5GHz all-core pretty easily (most Xeons after the 1680v2 are going to be limited to their turbo boost potential)

@bojinglebells Жыл бұрын

@@IcebergTech not sure how much they sell for in your area, but there are oddities like the 2643v2 (6 cores @ 3.5-3.8GHz, 25MB L3$, 130W TDP) and the 2667v2 (8 cores @ 3.3-4.0GHz, 25MB L3$, 130W TDP) that go for $15-$20 around here

@cieknie Жыл бұрын

I really regret selling my 5675C and 5775C. Had it paired with 1080Ti back in the day. Good times.

@mannduro Жыл бұрын

And I am using both these as daily driver. I5 on TV set 1080p gaming. I7 on pc system up to 1440p.

@mraltoid19 21 күн бұрын

This was Intel's "X3D" chips....cept they never marketed it.

@Action-Andy88 Жыл бұрын

Well, i would like to see a weired CPU/GPU Combination between a Core i7 6950X and a RTX4080 like i'am using. It was an Upgrade on X99 instead the good old 5820K nearly everybody was using. I get it for 300€ at the end of 2021. As the HEDT-Version of the Broadwell-Era its quite a beast of a Chip runing at 4.3GHz. Capable to max out the 4080 in Battlefield 2042 in WQHD at nearly 144FPS. I thougt it would be a interim-solution for the old GTX1070SLi until i get a new platform like Ryzen 7000 or something. but... it works quite well, realy. Maybe this combo lasts for longer than expected. And please excuse the bad english im typling, its not my daily language.

@user-hy4on2wj4x Жыл бұрын

Its readable enough, mate, you dont have to worry about it.Btw broadwell-e is cool(proud 6850k owner)

@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын

Well, the RTX 4080 ain't happening until I'm rich or until it's already out of date, but I'd love to review the 6950X 😊

@Action-Andy88 Жыл бұрын

@@IcebergTech Even with a 3070 you're owning it would be impressive to see the performance possible. In my Case: It wasnt the AVG FPS. Even in BF V, my main game (not BF2042) the Performamce-Boost was impressive. Likely the 5820K (4,3Ghz) could handle 144FPS at some time but not stable in all cases. The 6950X can handle AVG FPS at 144FPS like a rock.

@Splarkszter Жыл бұрын

@@IcebergTech 480p gaming to test CPU's goes brrrr

@gamingedition5165 Жыл бұрын

Why we got devil canyon reached higher frequencies and more often than not at the higher frequency performed better.

@segfault-berlin Ай бұрын

The L4 is nothing to do with X3D as others have written. This is a small amount of DRAM on board. It was a patch to cover the bandwidth gap left by being stuck on DDR3. Realistically the chip needed DDR4, but why that wasn't used only intel know

@chainsaw2010 Жыл бұрын

Hype!

@fokuscs 2 күн бұрын

I have broadwell in MacBook Air 2015

@razorsz195 Жыл бұрын

Inb4 ebay prices skyrocket :P

@psttech4290 Жыл бұрын

wasnt the 5775c locked? anyway, should test the 5960x if you havent already, got one and keeps right with my 5800x with an oc

@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын

Done: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gpxmgaV7zeCtmKM.html

@mannduro Жыл бұрын

I7 5775 is not locked. It doesn't have the K tag but it's completely unlocked

@AlfaPro1337 Жыл бұрын

Why is everyone so surprised? It's been proven that adding more cache is quite beneficial since, good lord knows when CPU cache became a thing.

@kvk2911 Жыл бұрын

Please make gt210 vs hd630

@m8x425 Жыл бұрын

Why does Broadwell overclock so poorly, in comparison to Haswell? I've overclocked a 5775c, 6800k, and 6950x and the highest I got was 4.4ghz, -2 AVX with the 6800k. On the other hand I've kissed 5.0ghz stable with a 4790k (hit 4.7ghz stable with another 4790k), an E5-1650 v3 to 4.8ghz stable with safe voltages, 4.7ghz with an i5-4690k, and the worst was 4.5ghz stable with a 4770k. The 5775c I had could hit 4.3ghz, but I was using XTU to overclock it, instead of using the BIOS. I was able to pass stress tests and Cinebench with it. I did this with a Gigabyte Z97 Gaming 7 motherboard.

@MasterBlaster220 8 ай бұрын

Its not made for it. They were made for laptops. Why care about it? The 5775C gives 30-90% more performance then the other intels from that era, Haswell and Skaylake. THey key is the L4 Cache, not the clock speeed.

@flytie3861 Жыл бұрын

I remember those with iris pro graphics. Shame intel shelved it.

@c97x Жыл бұрын

I mean you know it's a really really rough time to be living in when the 5300 integrated graphics is the best option for $100 or the step up the 5600 integrated for 130$. And even though they're integrated cards you're going to be buying a GPU either way because you want high Fidelity games, and it makes no sense to have a built-in GPU and a dedicated GPU especially when they can't work together

@mrkiplingman Жыл бұрын

am using a broadwell 2690v4 for gaming and or though its clockspeeds are considered low by today standards its absolutely destroying my 4790 non k chip in modern titles that take advantage of more cores and it even has quad channel ddr4.

@MasterBlaster220 8 ай бұрын

I think its also the big L3 Chache. Not as much as the 128mb Edram but still much more.

@Garrettdx1988 Жыл бұрын

Intel should go ahead and do something similar again

@mannduro Жыл бұрын

the iGPU is shit at newer 3D games but GREAT at 2D Games. i will eventually make around 30 2D game Benchmarks. Even emulation is running fine up to a specific generation. One thing i missed in your review is the Mediaplayer capabilities and general use in daily applications other than videogames. But i guess this is a primarily a video game channel.

@IndellableHatesHandles 11 ай бұрын

The iGPU performs about the same as the Xbox 360 in GTA V. Not too bad

@alupangguam7560 Жыл бұрын

I could be wrong here, but I think something is broken in your iGPU comparison test between Iris Pro HD6200 VS UHD 730. It is my belief HD6200 is about twice as powerful as UHD 730 & UHD 750. Way more shaders for example (384 VS 256). I'm guessing if you did a test with an older DX8 game like Unreal Tournament 2004 (greatest game of all time), Iris Pro HD6200 would come out way on top. Love to be proven wrong though. Good job talking about my fav and daily driver processor; thanks!

@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын

I haven't done a direct comparison between the two per se. I reviewed the UHD 730 last year (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a96mhbOpu7O1YZ8.html) and the only overlapping results are from Valorant and GTA V, both of which are DX11 and both of which favour the newer iGPU. You may be right about older API games, but I've sold both CPUs since making these reviews so I can't confirm.

@johngrammaticus5296 Жыл бұрын

so how does it compare to a zen+ cpu something like a 2300x,3400g or 2600 cause these are relatively cheap these days

@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын

Oh man, I guess I must have taken the 3400G off the chart for this video! Sorry, I try not to overload the charts with info, but that was an oversight. The 3400G and 5775C are about even in synthetics, but Broadwell annihilates Zen+ in games. ~30% faster in Valorant, BF V & Spider-Man, 40% faster in Fortnite and C2077, 20% in RDR2 and 10% in Elden Ring. A 3300X might be a fairer comparison, but I haven't got one on hand.

@MikeDaveYapOfficial Жыл бұрын

We don't talk about Broadwell well well well We don't talk about Broadwell.... It was my wedding day 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

@mannduro Жыл бұрын

My daily driver !!!

@dragonhart6505 Жыл бұрын

im confused...i remember a time when if you said "i7 7700" (whether it was a K skew or not) you pretty much had top of the line. the 5775c is pretty "meh" overall, sure, but it also overall beat out 2 whole newer generations on average and it still (while not a viably recommended for efficiency) acceptably useable today. it's iGPU PAVED THE WAY for integrated graphics we have today. sooooo, why don't we talk about Broadwell?

@mannduro Жыл бұрын

Oh and btw. This chip is using like no power at all. It's such an efficient CPU, specially compared to anything these days

@kgeo2686 9 ай бұрын

@snakeplissken1754 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, there is the i7 haswell and then there is the i7 coffee lake. Anything in between was just intel wasting everyone´s time with garbage refresh launches. (And the only thing even haswell is a thing is cause of avx2, without that it would be sandybridge to coffee lake.) The xeons are most often still the most attractive cpu´s of that "dark age" era of no progress.