Glad to see you're noticing the benefits of AV1 already. Thanks for the overview Addie!

Don't forget, not all 6000 series have an AV1 decoder. The 6400/6500XT did not get one; H264/5 only.

Nice. A solid efficient open source format to rule them all. Like Flac for audio. Wished there was something like that with stuff like office documents (odf is in a chicken and egg situation).

So, it turns out that when the ARC GPU is not crashing or stuttering, you can actually stream AV1 pretty good. Nice!

AV1 is extremely impressive for quality & bitrate. I am buying an Intel Arc GPU just to get hardware accelerated AV1 support. The A380 is like $120, or in laptops, and slaughters AMD/Nvidia and CPU encoding from a high end CPU. Intel hit a home run with their AV1 support.

Does this mean it's time to revisit the old "1 GPU for gaming + 1 GPU for encoding" setup question? Awesome video, dude! Thanks for covering this!

Nice! I would also be VERY interested in seeing how GPU AV1 encoding compares to CPU HEVC encoding in Handbrake, both for speed and quality depending on setting from RF 18 to RF 22 for 1080p and 4k. If it's faster and same quality, it'd still be a win for the videos I archive.

Love these videos and I'm excited to see the progress of AV1. Only question i have is have you thought about making decode/encode performance charts. for people who use these hardware accelerators for things that aren't streaming related and actually encoding speed matters. eg encoding bluerays to h265 or transcoding content from h265 to h264 on plex servers for devices that don't support h264

Thank You for reviewing the 380 from an encoding perspective! Just about every other KZfaq channel goes on about game performance. I don’t play games, but I do enjoy exploring and ONLY buy GPUs for their encoder abilities. I genuinely don’t care if the 380 sucks at games as long as its hardware encoding is excellent!

Great to see some good news about this GPU. It's been taking a lot of fire from other KZfaqrs. I'm hoping Intel hangs in there and sorts out the various issues in a timely manner.

Super exciting to see Intel shaking up the status quo with moves like this! When Twitch finally rolls out AV1, I might pick up one of these to use as a secondary card.

Loving how Intel's knocking it out of the park here (ignoring their driver woes for the moment, I'm sure those will get better with time,) but how does their GPU AV1 encoder stack up to NVENC H.265?

Great video. This seems very promising and I look forward to seeing how it handles some of the filter experiments I've been doing with retro games. It will be interesting to see how AV1 interprets scanlines and shadow masks in particular, and if when in motion it confuses the shadow mask noise for film grain and tries to re-construct it. Hoping it will see the consistent effect and encode it on a frame-by-frame basis properly instead of reconstructing because I can imagine it may create some wild noise if it tries to, which has been an issue with youtube's re-encoding at 1080p for a long while now, when colors fall in a particular range. (mostly deep reds, purples and greys trip it up.) Thanks for a glimpse into the future here, Stream Sensei!

You're going to hate hearing this, but this would be a perfect opportunity for you to revisit the "dual GPU streaming / recording" topic from a couple years ago that you made a video on. Except this time, using a mobo / CPU combo that doesn't force you into x8 / x8 mode with a second GPU. Such as an X570 with 3rd gen Ryzen. I've been experimenting with this on x16 / x4 mode with my PC, along with a long 16x riser cable to physically relocate the encoding GPU outside of the case. It seems to be working well so far. Running my 6900xt at x16 gen 4 and my 3060ti at x4 gen 3 (I think gen 4 is doable for the second GPU as well, still testing on that). It has benefitted both my in-game fps along with my stream / recording quality (because NVENC >AMF). And eliminated the need for me to have a second PC for streaming/recording at high bitrates. OBS makes me leave GPU 0 selected for it to work, but it gives the NVENC option, and I can see that the encoding portion is taking place on GPU 1 as desired. The 6900xt still has a small load of scene compositing and copying over info to the second GPU, but it's way less than if it were doing the entire encoding process (I do high bitrate stuff). I don't have any video / stream evidence of the results yet on my channel, because I've been having health issues and just testing when I can. These Intel GPUs would work perfect in a dual GPU setup like mine as an encoding GPU, if it will work correctly and be somewhat viable compared to a more complex dual PC setup. Thanks for the content as always. EDIT: Thought I would note that I am not using SLI/Crossfire mode in OBS

this guy makes really good videos. AV1 looks amazing

If you plan to put those graphs up anywhere could you show SVT-AV1 at preset 10 too, at least since it finally got 1.0 the default preset (in its stand alone encoder and FFMPEG) has been 10. Other than that it’s amazing to finally see av1 getting so close to wide spread adoption. If discord added support to their CDN servers id be sending all my videos as AV1 over discord

Been waiting for this video for the last few days, love it

the video i was waiting for :D

I think in graphs such as 9:04 you should write the generation of the hardware used (intel CPU gen / AMD CPU gen / Nvidia GPU gen), like you do for the graph at 12:39 , otherwise people could believe QSV is better while in reality they have an old intel CPU and using NVENC would be better for them.

Nice video buddy a lot of work put into this one so thanks. Exciting times, we massively need Twitch and KZfaq to allow far greater bitrates so we can get better quality obviously AV1 is a step forward. Any idea if next gen GPU's (Nvidia 40x series AMD 70x series) will have an AV1 encoder also?

Damn, some actual positive coverage of intel arc gpus! I was bummed out after all the bad news I've seen.

Omg never clicked so fast on a video! Thank you for the coverage and breakdown!

It's ALMOST here! Amazing video as always Addy! Probably one of the most important pieces of information in the video for my colleagues is that this will end up being the GPU for a Stream PC. I'm so excited, hopefully Twitch gets on board fully quickly. They're long overdue for an upgrade anyways. Thanks for the important information!

as a small streamer, this is exciting!

you did not oversell it! This is truly game-changing. I am so excited for things to come

Been super hyped for AV1 for a good bit, just waiting to see things fall into place.

This was the ARC review I was waiting for. The lower tier card is going to find its way into every emby / plex server

Dude!! I love the lighting in all your videos. You continue to kick ass and help me be the best streamer I can be.

Just the disney lawyer reference alone gets a thumbs up. Thank you I needed a dad laugh.

I bought a Intel 770 just to encode av1. To get a vmaf around 98 I encode at 22q on handbrake and a typical blu is ready in under 10 mins. About 265fps. Blown away by how useful it is for my media server.

do these codecs, like Intel AV1 improve the visual quality also in decompression or only in compression?

Just noticed Champions of Norrath in the back, nice. Great video too man. As a pro video editor in the UK, I'm very keen to see how AV1 continues to develop.

So the RTX 4090 and 4080s were revealed, but not one mention of the DUAL HARDWARE AV1 encoders! I can't wait to see your review of these GPUs and can only pray that AMD will have AV1 hardware encoder(s) too!

All ways love to see the more technical video's, relay clear and well explained deep dive in to the subject. Thanks for the video.

Some other test that I saw today suggests Arc has also very solid HEVC encoder, (possibly competing or even beating its AV1 encoder) could you try using it next time you make a video about it?

Very cool testing, thanks for sharing! I wonder if we'll get to the point of having an igpu, intel dgpu, and an nvidia/amd gpu all in one system 😂

This might be solution for irl streaming, because there's always not enough of available bandwidth. Currently it's rather complicated (or expensive), to get usable quality.

I was waiting for this video, finally it came out. Thanks

This is why you are one of my favorite content creators. Your work is amazing!

a video i've been waiting for a looong time! on-point info as always.. AV1 output seems really efficient .. lower bitrate for the same effective quality is gonna draw in mass viewership numbers .. we're likely on the cusp of record livestream viewership numbers

KZfaq also accepts *H.265* for uploads and HTTP streaming if you are on AMD and don't want to purchase anything with AV1 yet. To switch from H.264 to H.265 in AMD ReLive, change the setting ⚙-> Record & Stream -> "Video Encoding Type" from AVC to HEVC. I used a 2017 Vega56 to record 1080@30p speedrun footage at 1.5 mbps + 96 kbps audio (690 MiB per hour) with that and it looks really good. KZfaq of course transcodes it to H.264 and VP9. If you are interested in the quality, look it up under "Alien: Isolation, low%, NMG, NM, 3:51:25" (and make sure it shows in 1080p). 16:32 As that article mentions, film grain simulation was already defined in H.264 Annex D as auxiliary info. The specification only provided parameters without an actual algorithm to use them AFAIK, so virtually no one implemented it. A streaming service that also ships set top boxes (i.e. has control over encode and decode) could have made use of it anyways I suppose. Thanks for trying H.264, your sacrifice will be remembered. Last not least thank you for all the hours spent creating the comparisons. I was very surprised that according to Netflix' metrics AMD has better quality at low bitrates these days than nVidia. I guess CPU load must be higher then.

Epic W for Arc

Awesome stuff! So for the time being, this is the best dedicated hardware x264 encoder we can get out hands on - do I smell an ultra powerful dual PC setup with this card in it? Hopefully Twitch and KZfaq will figure out how to make AV1 work on their streams before Nvidia and AMD release their new cards with supposed AV1 encode support.

4:33 I recommend leaving KZfaq's AV1 setting on auto, as using the Always prefer AV1 option caused some videos to be missing all quality options above 360p for me.

But how many av1 encoding streams are available? NVENC can do 3 out of the box, and unlocked drivers opening up even more streams on high end gpus.

Thanks for all this, it's appreciated!

Super enlightening, didn’t understand why av1 was so important before. Thank you! Gonna have to try out the intel 🎉

We (game streamers) need AV1 support on YT & Twitch, in order to do fast paced games 1440p-4K/60-120fps streams in higher clarity! We can get the hardware but YT/Twitch needs to fully support AV1 on their end !!!

Thanks for your comparisons. Exciting stuff. When do you think AV1 hardware encoding will make it to onboard CPU - iGPUs? Basically replacing Quicksync.

4K or 8K 60fps HDR video AV1 is for streaming online due to good quality, high resolution, high frame rate, and the smallest bandwidth over H264, H265, VP9. Handbrake fast converts a AV1 video on my M1 MacBook Pro 13" (8-core GPU) up to 50% small file size compare to H264 video.

I know your channel is more for streaming content but it still would be interesting to see 15mbps and 25mbps which are commonly used on streaming services and maybe even a hbr (50mbps) comparison between h264, h265 (with x265 and Intel’s GPU) and AV1 (SVT-AV1 and Intel GPU). If not as a full video maybe as an article to read?

Nice. Thanks for the objective analysis of the arc gpus.

As far as encoding, very promising! And at the rumoured? prices, if it does end up working well enough graphics wise, it could just be seen as a bonus lol.

This is gonna be huge for people streaming on 5G and 4GLTEA, be it on the go or at home. I'm using a 5G hotspot for my home internet and the speeds are worse than what i got with Comcast for the same price (why i'm using 5G is a long story), so once people jump on the AV1 bandwagon, having access to higher quality for the bandwidth will make a world of difference.

Awesome video Epos! Just got my hands on an HP Envy with Arc A370M, it is great! Which software did you use to access the AV1 Encoder? Ffmpeg or something a bit less commandliney?

Thanks for the great insight. I’m really excited for when we can start to encode twitch streams in AV1 amazing information you’ve been able to make. Thanks 👍

I'm excited for wireless VR. Right now it's decent but any improvement would be welcome.

Yeah awesome times coming if this really will become the NEW standard with AV1. I was missing 120fps 1080p testing in this video. Would love to see those results.

Is the graph at 9:53 accurate? Intel AV1 is at the bottom of the pile in this scenario, and at 10:11 it starts off strong but at the 8000kbps mark it's at the bottom, about 5 points below even AMF. Putting that aside, thank you for pointing out how huge that jump is at the low end. It's not something that occurred to me to look at because I'm not that target user, but god, when this catches on, it's going to be so good seeing the baseline quality take a leap. A lot less 1080/60 streams that look absolutely garbled!

Great video, but I'm sure a number of people like myself have already moved on to NVENC H.265, and esp now that Resolve has native H.265 export support in Windows, I'd love to see it compared to that.

Jeesus and the pricing for such a quality encoding GPU being only $139.99, if they keep the low-end at that price going into the future, will make budget streaming builds sooooo much more accessible. Ive never thought about getting a second build because it seemed like it'd cost a fortune but with just the lowest-end 1st Gen Intel GPU it could easily be done in $600 or under. Just mind-blowing

Hope this doesn't get cancelled be for a single one is sold at Best Buy. Creators might be the first to see the advantage of ARC cards if they expedite encoding & decoding as fast as Nvidia CUDA or even better at an affordable price.

Thanks for the neat video! AV1 fans unite! One downside not gotten into is it is still more expensive to *decode* a typical AV1 video or stream compared to typical H.264 or VP9 videos/streams. Not a big deal on *most* laptops or desktops, but mobile users are probably going to watch their battery life drain fast and wish their app or browser was streaming with a different codec. I say this as an AV1 fanboy myself. Would love to see more mobile GPU decoder support. It's also frustratingly hard to google which phones support it, IMO... So I actually don't know if support has improved in the past year or two. I also don't know if you have tried libaom CPU encoder's "realtime" mode? It is supposedly designed for streaming (particularly videoconferencing) in mind. Might be suitable for a separate streaming box to run? Not sure how much CPU that needs, though... And I rarely hear about the community actually testing the "realtime" mode. Makes me curious, though. So if you'd look into that, and if you think it's relevant for streamers, I'd be interested to see a video with that.

Intel Nvidia and amd also provide codecs for the consumer and not for the streamer? to enjoy a better visual quality and not to strain, always make videos on encoders, but is there something different between amd intel and nvidia talking about decoders and decompression?

Excuse me, as I understand AV1 affects more on game streamers or on KZfaq content creators too? Is the difference between AV1/NVENC more recognizable only in games? Thank you so much for the answer.

Would you expect these scores to behave approximately the same for 1440p, 4K? Or will you be running more tests

Do you think one of these ARC GPUs could be used as a dedicated encoder card? Is that kind of functionality basically already available?

Awesome content as always! :D

Wow, only 18.9k views. WTH. This is top notch work and just assumed it'd be 10 times this # at least. Great job on the work nevertheless. _NOTE:_ I searched for this video after watching a quick Hot News episode where this video title was shown, so I manually searched for it.

the VCR effect / softening / luminance or whatever it is on the camera footage is super distracting and blurry on my monitor! but i appreciate your updates on av1 and history with investigating encoders. it's hard to keep tabs on what is possible in obs and what the timetable is on twitch implementing new codecs, so thank you for the updates. i cant wait until 1080p60fps is actually possible on twitch.

So the dedicated video hardware on the A380 is the same as the A750 (and A770). And the larger die doesn't have more of it. You said it's a GPU encoder, but it's not using the vector/matrix units, it's using dedicated silicon that isn't the GPU which would be rendering your games for exmaple. Could be misleading. And the 8GB VRAM will not be sufficient for compositing in Fusion. If they all of a sudden market it towards content creation, the laptop SKUs make more sense than the desktop cards. I haven't read deep into AV-1 enough, but it sound like there is great for video game and screen recording footage. Not just capturing the real world with a consumer camera. Blackmagic can encode h264 that looks better than nvenc at 120mbps with just 24mbps. Why doesn't their hyperdeck hardware end up on graphics cards for example.

Do we know when Twitch will start ingesting AV1 encodes? Will streams be converted from AV1 to H264 in transcode? I have so many questions about Twitch's timeline.

I wonder what is going on with that Splitgate result? Regardless, this hardware encoder is a great win for Intel.

With everyone just roasting for their „early, bad gaming drivers” and nothing else… it is nice to see someone reminding people that AV1 is also a huge part of Intel ARC

Thanks for this. Just ordered an A380, for encoding AV1 as a creator, not a streamer.

Which GPUs did you use for the encoding, particularly on the Nvidia side of things? The Pascal (GTX 10-series) encoder was noticeably lower quality at the same bitrate than the newer Turing/Ampere encoders. It would be great if you had a list of the various GPUs used for encoding purposes in the video description.

An Intel encoder can be used having an nvidia card?

this is the best review of this product i've seen on youtube.

I wonder if Intel (OBS?) could implement further down the line an automatic switch to a lower preset/lower bit-rate if speed connection is low and preserve (mostly) the integrity of the image instead of breaking in a mush of pixels and ultimately ending the stream altogether. This could be a life-changer for 5G streaming (or even fiber users with crappy connections). For testing purposes I wonder how the encoder scales with crazy lower or higher resolutions-framerates-bitrates (can it even keep up to "real-time") and uneven odd resolutions. Great coverage!

saw this as av1 on my phone. superb!

Which CPU was used for the SVT Encoder? When will Twitch and OBS support both: AV1 Hardware- and CPU-Encoding?

Great performance at 1080p 3.5 Mbps could also translate to great 4K performance at 8 - 10 Mbps. Could be worth testing? It would allow twitch to enable high-res streaming without blowing out the bandwidth budget if it works well.

from a gamer point of view, game studio don't adapt their games very well, but for a streamer, it can be THE solution.

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I like the fact, that you concentrated on more aspects, that make the Intel ARC GPU a competitive product, rather than just switching to Gaming right at the Beginning. I think, this might be the feature, that would've solved many issues regarding Framerate frequency in many Games, that were tested with other reviewers.

Question: The Intel hardware AV1 encoder produces the same video quality at a given bitrate as which AV1 software encoder setting? And what about the same comparison for offline encoding? Basically, what I am asking is "How much CPU" does the hardware AV1 encoder replace.

Not gonna lie. I was about to ask if you had changed your upload format. Watching on 1440p on a native display and I noticed enough of a difference to try to pixel peek to see what was going on. Wow. AV1 is pretty lit.

I wish that Intel , AMD & Nvidia would include bi-directional HDMI/Displayport ports in future generations of their graphic cards, instead of having to rely on external HDMI/SDI capture interfaces. The GPU could capture the HDMI/DP input into a buffer then would be able to encode that buffer.

I have stupid question. Is it possible to create hardware VP9 encoder? Like, we have H.264, we have HEVC, now we have AV1, but what about VP9?

For those who have looked around: AV1 is probably not going to work for you on KZfaq if you don't have an 11th gen Intel processor with Xe graphics or newer, the new Intel Arc GPUs (of course), an AMD RX6000 series (minus a couple SKUs) or newer, or Nvidia 30-series card or newer. I spent a while trying to figure out why videos on KZfaq were still playing with the VP9 codec instead of AV1.

Please don't change the colors of the different codecs from graph to graph. It makes it super hard to follow.

I really hope that we have dedicated PCIe AV1 cards since I don't really see the need to upgrade from 6900 XT for gaming

What is twitch waiting for ???

Is it possible to run an A380 ALONGSIDE say an RTX 3070 in the SAME PC and just use it for encoding?

What is missing for me is how useable is QSV with Intels 12th Gen actually in a single streaming PC setup. Because when i watch this video i am thinking about just putting the new ARC GPU as a secondary GPU into my rig and move to a single streaming setup. Even with NDI its still a pain to stream with 2 PCs. Besides that its a really amazing video. Looking forward to AV1 and hopefully twitch will actually support it some day. And if not YT streaming here we come ;)

I signed up Curiosity stream/nebula over a year ago, yet I have not yet seen a single bit of nebula only content. Why? Because I watch using an xbox one & nebula hasn't released an app for that!! I can get Curiosity stream because it has an app but their is no nebula app so no nebula content.

nice video!

I am very happy with the reality we're headed toward.

I occasionally stream with AMF h264 and seeing QSV AV1 samples at similar to identical bitrate is something that I always dream. also how does QSV AV1 impact game performance if you don't mind testing? At times AMF isn't tolerable on low end CPU though that's mostly me cranking up quality as much as posible due to how blocky AMF results even for high bitrate local recording

good video, have you advice to setup AV1 in recording with geforce experience settings?