Check out the article summarizing the souring of Amico excitement here: www.cbr.com/intellivision-amico-things-ruined-excitement-console/

Are they literally EXPECTING to fail FCC certification just so they can blame the FCC for that the Amico never came out in the end?!

Would argue there's never been any actual excitement for the Amico outside a very narrow group of retro gamers who were yearning for a reboot of the #3 most popular 2nd generation console. The excitement might be ruined for some them at this point and it probably should be. Outside of that group nobody knows what this is.

The big thing against Tommy is his sleazy, used car salesman language. "Maybe we have more stored info on the RFID cards". Why not just say if it does? It's just like his "Wouldn't that be something". He wants the fanboys to repeat it as "we have more encrypted info on the RFID card" and then when that turns out to be false, Tommy will claim "I never said for sure we did. You just assumed that." He did this before with "physical media". When people asked if there was a cart slot, he never said "No". What he did say was stuff like "Maybe we have a way to deliver the game on an SD card or something". His shills then said "Tommy confirmed they can be installed offline with an SD card" and Tommy would never correct that misstatement. Tommy continued to play coy on what was in the box until they went up for sale. Now that we know for sure there's no SD card or physical media in the box, he's falling back on the "I never said there were carts in the box. Ha ha ha! Learn to read better". Again, not the actions of a CEO. They're the actions of a Scumbag Seller of the Week.

I can already picture Tommy's Q&A: - Tommy, how do you manage to look so young and handsome? - What is your favorite Amico game? - How does it feel to have so many awards? - What Amico colors would you want to see in the future? - How many LEDs are on the system? - How much does it take to charge an amazing Amico controller? - Where can I buy Amico games? - How can I invest? And the though question: - Is Earthworm Jim going to be 4 players? :)

Can't wait to hear Tommy's voicemail call on this on the next podcast 😆

I still have excitement every time you two talk about it. 🤪

Intellivison should seriously consider dropping Tommy and hire podcast Tommy. That guy could inject excitement into any terrible product.

It's gotta EXIST before it can be "ruined".

Pat needs to release a compilation video of all their Amico coverage.

I think the Amico might be my favorite system of all time. Not even the 16 bit wars was this entertaining

I gotta say, I'm really gonna miss this saga of the podcast if and when the dust ever settles on this thing

#3 and #4, funny thing is they are realeasing original intellivision games on a cartridge for the Evercade! 😂😂😂

Having to tap the card every time wouldn't even do anything to deter people stealing the games, rfid chips are trivially easy to spoof. Just look at people making bootleg amiibo cards.

Turns out, fleecing people ruins excitement.

Not for nuthin' but... if Tommy is promoting family time but his big seller for that is Cornhole... wouldn't the obvious thing be for parents to make a physical cornhole set WITH their kids (a fun activity) and then actually play it in the yard? A lot cheaper and a lot more fun family togetherness...

Tommy saying "You don't need FCC certification to start manufacturing" is the ultimate in being a technical troll and a dishonest debater. It's like a criminal arguing "It wasn't me pushing the guy off the roof that killed him. It was the sudden stop when he hit the ground". This does tell us that IE still doesn't have FCC certification (because why make that silly argument other than to rationalize not having it by now?) and they that likely failed their last submission (again!). Months ago, Nick Richards had said they were making their final submission and would have certification "within a few weeks". It's been way longer than that. He also let slip they had submitted before and failed "on a few minor issues". So that kind of destroys the massive spinning by the Amico fanboys that is going on at AtariAge. They're trying to rationalize with "Well this is just a paperwork thing. All these parts have been certified before, so it's just a formality for the system as a whole" or even "they can wait until the last minute to keep their trade secrets away from Nintendo and Sony". AHAHHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHA!

I never had any interest in this project to begin with, but I keep coming back for these vids because of how fun it is to watch this dude melt down. I can't stop watching and I just have to be there when he fails and goes away, this stuff is prime hatewatching material.

Lunacy is the perfect word for this, nothing else needs to be said

While all of those items on the list are valid, the list blows it by ignoring the #1 thing that has ruined excitement for the Amico. TT. No, I'm not talking about Ted Turner, Tanya Tucker or even Tim Tebow. That'd be our pal, Tommy Tallarico. He has repeatedly dug the hole deeper everytime he's spoken, and, he has done more to wreck the Amico than a full spread of photon torpedoes ever could. When the Amico flops - and I'm being generous at this point in even assuming it comes out - he'll be the #1 reason. With that said, after 3 delays, when does this "amazing console" ever come out? Smarch 13th at 13:00 am? The 12th of Never in the year 2525? Stardate 95976? Moments before the Heat Death of the Universe? Anyway, yeah. More than 10 reasons to lose excitement over the You Can't Do That On Intellivision. But #1 should've been Tommy, and #2 should be the eternal delays that will lead to the Amico hitting shelves shortly after Commodore releases the Commodore 64000 and the VIC-2000. (Edited to add after finishing the video): The whole thing about the FCC sounds like BS to me. For some time now, I've believed this is never going to come out. And my guess is now he's setting up the FCC to be the scapegoat when the Amico never comes out. I always thought he'd find a way to blame Pat and Ian, but, now I wonder if he'll just blame the mean ol' FCC. He sure as hell won't blame himself.

"Intellivision Amico Excitement Ruined?" You mean my excitement was lifted in the beginning?

It's funny to me how the Coleco Chameleon/VCS tried to bring cartridges back with games that are finished and never have to be upgraded and here we are selling physical games that might not even exist.

4:00 Online Leaderboards are bad, and invariably, the top spots are ALWAYS hackers/cheaters. Having a leaderboard only encourages that type of behavior.

Tommy's narrative this week is that his "transparency" is being used against him, so now he's going to keep quiet. We'll see. He's made that promise before but lasted about three days before going back to his diarrhea-style of posting). 1) One posting a lot is not the same as "transparency". Most of Tommy's posts are "Wouldn't that be something" and 'What's your favorite music/movie/snack food from the 80s". 2) The real questions that people want answered like "How exactly can I transfer games with an NFT?" or "Do I need the card to use the game every time" he refuses to answer directly and whenever someone does ask he claims it's "harassment". 3) If you tell the truth, it can't be "used against you". Tommy gets in trouble because he says stuff that turns out to be false or he contradicts himself. Take the whole "exclusive" thing. Tommy and his fanboys claim the haters (which includes all the press except Nintendolife) are "obsessed" with exclusives. Now they are saying "what's the big deal about ports and exclusives?". They pretend this came out of nowhere when the person who made it "a big deal" was TOMMY. It was one of the big pillars of the Amico. He may pretend it was something he casually mentioned once and then "clarified" what he meant by "ports" and "exclusives". But that's a total lie. He went on dozens of interviews and whenever someone said "why not just get a Switch" Tommy would go a fifteen minute rant about "All our games will be exclusive! You will not be able to get them anywhere else." That and "We're only $180" were the big selling points. Now both of those pillars are gone, so then the original question (why buy this thing?) comes back into play.

and the other thing I wanted to say: Wait, there was excitement for this in the first place?

They didn't manage to sell out the "limited collectors edition" of physical... Products.

If Tommy and Co. were any way concerned with the negative feedback due to a slew of reasons at this point they'd seriously consider releasing the ENTIRE Intellivision back catalog for free as an 'apology ' or a 'perk' to those who continue to support this facade.

It's hopeless. This isn't 1979. The gaming hardware industry is a land of GIANTS now. The classic mini craze (as much as it was loved) has passed. Those systems were launched by big players still in the game with relevant flagship titles of their days, many of which still exist in franchised form, or are well known IPs. Intellivision isn't really remembered for any unique blockbuster games, and so far they are only 'promising' great exclusive 3rd party titles. The price is just a big red flag on their overall financial mismanagement. Amico isn't just late to the party, they're showing up to the wrong address without a gift.

They want to fail FCC cert for a 'valid' excuse to delay and ask for more money; then pretend to act all surprised and appalled it happened.

A FAQ should be written from the lay consumer. The stuff you’ll get from AA is gonna be different than the questions a 70 year old Grandma will ask/need to know.

I like how Tommy's answer to many things is to act like the question is stupid and should be obvious, so obvious that he doesn't have the time to just answer it then but points to an FAQ that will never come out.

Poor Amico fans(cult) Pat made'm mad again

Big love for Tommy. Absolute legend Edit- imagine bragging about markup before a single unit is sold. Huge fan 👏 🙌

My guess is that getting FCC certification requires some sort of fee. The only possible reason I can see why they would do it like this is if they just desperately need every penny for everything else right now and are waiting for some cash injection before they "pull the trigger". The physical game packs perhaps?

My excitement for the Amico has been peaking for like a year, I am so close to finishing just a little more

FCC certs are a binary thing. The system either passes or it doesn't. There's no almost, or just a few. One transmitter can pass all day because it is operating alone on a standard. When you test emissions on everything at once, what it generates as a whole unit is the entire ball game. Nothing else matters. You fail, you redesign. That he is clueless about the process is the most embarrassing part, but he's too clueless to know he should be embarrassed.

Ahhh yes, my weekly update of the Amico mess 👌

'Earthworm Jim' for Amiico is the PC equivalent of 'Star Citizen' 🤣🤑

Who is even going to produce games for it? Didn't they say at some point licensing fees were 50 percent? So at 10 bucks a pop the game developer sees 5? Let's be generous and assume the intial install is around 100000. General attach rates are around 20 percent so 100000 grand a game subtract dev costs. I mean a 2 or 3 person crew could do alright on those kinds of returns but they're not going to be producing system sellers so the install base will never grow. So the only people making games for it are going to be small teams producing quick cheap software or games produced through some subsidy like the German games being produced via tax credits. Again unlikely to be any system sellers in that grouping. Which means the only people left to produce 'big' system sellers that could grow the install base are intellivison themselves. And that would take a hefty amount of capital available right now to fund those games at a loss since they have zero product to sell. Is anyone actually deluded enough to think that this company has spare millions lying around to fund first party development of multiple high quality, exclusive games that could potentially move enough hardware units to produce an intial large enough install base to attract more substantial developers?

17:55 So from what I understand (having been involved in the actual *testing* but not the formal certification process), it's a self-certification thing you do with an independent lab and you submit the paperwork to the FCC when the lab says you pass. They could have the paperwork from the lab saying they pass and just haven't submitted it to the FCC yet. The main reason not to do this is that that paperwork will contain details of the product that you might not want to be public too far ahead of ship (since the FCC does publicize them afaik). Since the Amico isn't anything super groundbreaking I can only assume that they're paranoid it will reveal problems with the product (e.g. using high supply chain risk parts) that they don't want the public or potential investors to find about about--or they might be afraid that someone might try to buy their parts out from under them maybe?

I love how he’s saying you have to touch the chip to the console every time you boot it up. Even the NES could have the cartridge left in it if you wanted to play the same game again next time. We are regressing lol

I know more about the Amico than the PS5, an actual system that's out in the world, thanks to these videos! 🤣

"You say amiico, i say amaco, you say tomico i say tamaco, amiico amaco, tomico tamaco....." lol, my favorite soap opera ever !

I like how Ian will correct Pat about shocked "SOCKED" but then go and say redux as "re-ducks"

I find it funny that Tommy is all about simple family friendly casual games yet I distinctly remember him on Electric Playground saying how he thought the Wii was lame.

I kinda wonder how tommy would react if Pat just casually showed up to one of these short-notice Amico events, just to check it out

I work with companies who don’t have FCC or FDA clearance prior to shipping. Their stuff will get stopped at port. Good luck Tommy lol

I've become a subscriber because of this melange of crapola

Honestly, Amico doesn't ruin my excitement for Intellivision. I would rather play the 40 year old console (that will work long after Amico is dead and buried) than wait another 3 years for Tommy to figure out how to release his dream console. Somebody has to stop people from being fools for this thing. And the investors should require Tommy to learn manufacturing terminology and protocols.

Someone's probably brought this up already, but if he's going on about how you don't need FCC certification until you sell the product...that kind of implies they're not currently manufacturing any, either. Or he is just completely mad and taking an unnecessary risk.

The Amico trainwreck keeps on chugging.

Do y’all think behind closed doors Tommy is just freaking out, chomping his fingernails sweating profusely?

Hey come on guys! Stay excited! Footbaths are really nice actually!

Doesn't the required taping the card in offline mode mean they'll need two different versions of each game? One download from the store and one with the custom offline card check?

When Ian put up the hood I thought he was gonna cast a spell on Tommy 🤣

“You’re going to run out of games to play…” In 15 minutes. There’s (possibly) 6 mini-games that might be finished in the future. I mean, we always had an enterprising kid in school who could put Snakes on your graphing calculator. Now, in my neighborhood, we have coding academies for kids to go to after school. So they’ll be making “Ski” equivalents in their spare time. As for Tommy mentioning that nefarious people are trying to steal “$10 games;” aren’t the games more expensive now? So he’s overcharging early supporters?

They should sell this on infomercials at midnight. Old people would see the commemorative coin and be sold.

Big big big news

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but is the whole ending of Am(ico) supposed to be a reference to Tommy Talar(ico)? Or however it's spelled.

Oh no. Does that mean we keep playing these games on our smartphones, Switch and Steam and playing dice cup with our own hands??

Hey Pat! Congrats on 250 000 subs. Finally. Nice to see!

I'm starting to get the feeling that this Tommy fella has no f*#&ing clue about what he's doing.

The Amico is starting to sound like the Fyre Festival of consoles...

Well, I don't know about Ian's mobile phone comment, since I've never had one (not counting ones which I was given for work, which stayed at work and never went home with me or to lunch). Point made though in terms of a market for an MP3 player, FM radio, ereader, minitablet and GPS (like the old Galaxy Player devices) just doesn't exist outside of a few holdouts like me, because smart phones are now ubiquitous.

The Evercade Vs is everything the amico wishes it could be as an affordable simple family couch co op console.

Cell phone quality games on a home console? Where have I heard that before? 🤔 Surely there isn't a famously unsuccessful microconsole that did that in 2013 or so.

Just Think. The Amico could have been a direct rival to the Evercade. Could have had retro games and some modern ports to make it a little different. Missed opportunity.

I just got a ps3. Is the sega saturn/dreamcastmini out yet?

When are we getting a super cut of all the tommy voicemails?

Spoiler Alert: _YES_ 🙄🤑

We know nothing about the Amico games, no. We do. Shipped in packs (so you can't even choose) as digital code redemptions with an NFT coin. Amico is probably a huge pump and dump, and kickstarter scam all rolled into one. The reason we don't have gameplay of those other games is probably because they don't actually exist, and possibly never will. People I follow like Rich of ReviewTechUSA have already ordered the console, and it still doesn't exist yet. MASSIVE red flags of a scam are going off in my noggin. I would start calling the FBI to investigate a potential pump and dump scam.

Nintendo ate their target audience up and yet still didnt have issues supporting titles like No More Heroes III, Mortal Kombat, and MH Rise on that same exact platform. I dont think we should stop stressing that point.

_"But before people call us idiots"_ ...then goes on to describe an idiotic solution.

I can see after the release the amico sells for 25$ at K.B. Toys in the discount bin.

For the 'physical products' packs that they just sold...We know all of the games are incomplete. So how can they already pass the ratings board for their content? How can they have even been tested or debugged? The biggest issue however is the fact that they only sold these in multi-packs because that means that if they only finish 1 or 2 games at a time over many months, people are going to be very mad owning 2 games that work and 6 that don't.

I'm starting to get real "Springtime for Hitler" vibes from this thing and am beginning to assume the "creator" wants it to fail.

I bet the switch can emulate the amico ez

I’ll defend switch library too and I just need one game to do it; Breath of the Wild. No I’m not a fanboy, actually think BOTW flawed in ways…well in ways that great games nearing true perfection usually are. But like so, an amico game, what at least $40? For something, I mean back in day play more, but by today’s standard subpar engagement level of a mobile game for $40. Or pay twice that for BOTW and arguably receive a game with gameplay hours alone that equals, ya know like 5 games for one almost when compared to price and length of something like COD vs BOTW. So ya, not only are more games on switch but ones you’ll enjoy on it likely provide far more value than a $40 digital access key to a nostalgia trip. Also ya Ian’s right, I used program RFID tags, actually company worked for invented first ever tag could be read simultaneously. But they were nightmare for bandwidth, never left prototype stage while I worked there and most common issue in for them was dropping their channel because data overflow and get “stuck” on tag. These were not small either, tag was but housing essentially minic’d piece of data cabling where tag would phsyically plug into data panel. Umm, so ya Tommy don’t know shit about RFID obvi. Supposed use to pass along or check data, not storage XD Oh and our tags were for cattle feed intake systems so security was a who cares, oh ya use your scanner go hard, you find out how low on water intake this month heifer #323 is lolololol

Yes unfortunately

I had an intellivision and loved it growing up. It can not work in today's game market. I played the hell out of the tron game, sea battle, the math game you made monkeys run down a river and who can forget BEEEE SEVENTEENE BAAAWWWMBER. I even had the voice unit. I would never touch this machine nostalgia isn't enough to get me to try this.

This is what kills me about the amico. If Keith Robinson was still alive and spearheading this from the beginning, it would be a much different product and would be run correctly and great games would be made for it, and things would be better and honest too.

Jenovi is the homey, he makes great stuff. I tried to warn him about the Amico Mafia.

You guys need to talk about the Paprium kickstarter that's going on now if you haven't already.

The title of this video should be: Is The Intellivision Amico's Excrement Ruined? The answer is OF COURSE NOT!

1 new game after every 14 days? Nah, maybe 40 at best...

Youre supposed to find your blue ocean, tommy found a dirty puddle.

Each "game" card must come with a Faraday cage to protect the code.

can't ruin something that was never that exciting to begin with

I bet tallarico could have made this whole thing work if instead of the family-friendly Switch competitor concept, he appealed to affluent boutique retro people. Sell it overpriced and lax for features, but make it a limited run with a good ad campaign. Genuinely selling on the Intellivision brand, it might pass for a nostalgia set-piece to goofy rich people.

Theyre in deep water now, Shark Shark.

The reason they won't proceed with the FCC filing at this stage is because all FCC filings are publicly accessible. They contain schematics, internal photos, documents, radio output, and all information required for such a filing, and are free for anybody to search. This would allow anybody with a bit of knowledge to look up the IC part numbers used, and reveal the exact technical specifications.

Can't wait for the Intellivision Answering Machine to release

These Amico updates cured my depression.

These statements are giving me an idea of how game distribution is being thought of at this time by Mr. Tall-an-ego team. I think with the RFID cards he is covering at least 3 possible scenarios at the time the console is released as of now there's no infrastructure of any kind. 1: Printed serial numbers on cards. This will be used in case he manages to get at least a Wii Shop-like ecosystem. The code will be like it is used in the rest of the digital games storefronts to register to the account, link to the console and download the games. This is the less likely scenario. 2: RFID cards as access keys. Just like Capcom did back in the day with DLC on disc, the games will be in the console from day one, not just the promised ones which will be unlocked to all users, but also these "physical" games and even "upcoming" ones. The console will grant access to the hidden games as long as the RFID cards are scanned everytime the user wants to play. This will give the illusion of the use of physical media and even new "physical" releases. Also, this could mean that these "physical products", along with the "free" games, will be the only ones ever to be released (similar to what the NEO GEO Arcade Stick Pro did). Another use of this functionality will be the gift cards. The machine will add credits to itself and possibly erase the RFIDs in the process so they won't be reused. The transactions will be virtual as they will happen onsite and will grant permanent access to "new" games that are locked from the factory, giving the illusion of purchasing them. This will save him the need for a real infrastructure and is the most likely scenario since everything points that this system is not one to get years of support by design. 3: Basic URLs to download, either the games or patches to those already in the machine. This might be the way the ecosystem is going to work in conjuction with the "access key" functionality, described above, in case he manages to get a basic one and fails to get all the games ready for launch. The tiny APK packages will be stored in a cheap GoDaddy or other budget hosting service using the Intellivision domain. In order to get new games, the RFID will provide the proper URL to the console to download. After installing, the RFID will be needed every time to play that game as it won't be linked to the console but instead locked. This will provide the NFT illusion as well, the games won't be linked to the console nor transfered, they will simply be installed in Flash RAM and become hidden without the cards; when someone "transfers" a card, the old user will no longer have access as he no longer will have the RFID card and the new user will go through the same procedure. All cards and all files will be exactly the same as there will be no encryption of any kind (not even as with the PSP) The URLs would also provide a way to redownload as needed if the Flash RAM gets filled and the user needs to delete games in order to get other games, similiar to what the Zeebo used to do and the reason why most of them don't have all the games linked to those consoles today since the external memory card slot was never enabled. However, the games were indeed linked to each Zeebo console, just like it also happened with the Wii; this might not be the case for the Amico, though. This is the best case scenario as it will provide most of what he has promised and ensure at least some years of support with new games and updates.

I feel like I'm saying something similar every couple videos after going down the rabbit hole but the more I hear about it and Tommy or whoever say about it all I can think is why would anyone get behind this and especially give money towards it

Something about the Amico? (Pressing play immediately)

If you have to tap the card before every game this is almost as bad as the Mattel hyper scan

Astrosmash looks fun but not $249 fun. 🧐

Official Press Release: “Sorta’ Kinda’ Woulda’ Coulda’ Shoulda’”

Ian just switched to Sith mode 12:20