Don't worry James, the 2.2 lump in the jag was fairly solid, it's the 2.0 that's made of Lego. I mean the door locks, alarm and anything else with an electrical pulse will let you down, but the engine is good.

I wanted a run around car and ended up with an Alfa 147 2.0 twin spark lusso. 45k miles, one owner car. £3k including having the belt and water pump changed. I absolutely love it.

The XF is a good choice - I've had a 3.0D V6 XF-S for nearly 3 years and other than some issues with the TPMS and keeping the DPF clear, it's been a good car. At low engine speeds, it feels as quick as my Quattroporte thanks to a whopping 600Nm torque.

the title doesn’t go near the content. these cars are money pits surely. scary cars. I’d like an interesting second car but these all frighten me.

Sub 5k: Lexus GS450h - can get upgraded mark levinson audio and 0-60 in 5.9 so it can get up and go when needed! Ulez compliance, just make sure the battery is in good Knick Sub 10k: Volvo S80 V8…. But if you’re being cautious, Infiniti M35h… hybrid and solid. Packed with features, feels a lot younger than it actually is!! Sub 15k: BMW 550i V8 GT, honestly too much car for the money. Can do it all looking like an ICE German Tesla.

James is such a child! A giant, grown up child and I adore him for it! And I really like the chemistry that's building up between you two. I you should to get Jack on here too, if he's up for it, and do a full on 3 way chat on subjects like these. P.S. I'm so onboard with the XF! They're quite underrated too, especially the very early ones. They are going to be problematic for sure but my god they look stunning! I'd probably want one mainly for the looks and the interior alone.

Xf 5000 xj 10000 xkr 20000 simples!!!!!! Great video Ben tell James Ruby red wrap copper alloys on the db9 cheers

I go deep with the dad car concept in that my car is the ONLY car in the family. We don't have a backup SUV or runaround hidden in the garage so it really does need to handle everything. Currently thats a Panamera 4S (V8, no turbos) and its brilliant considering how many boxes it can tick. But buyer beware, when it throws up a bill it is never cheap. Mine just suffered the dreaded cam shaft adjuster bolt failure. Needed new cam shaft actuators, new heads and new camshafts.... I thought it was going to end me completely but to my surprise Porsche covered the whole thing on some kind of extended lifetime warranty for that particular issue. I think the cam shaft adjuster bolts were a recall in the US but in Europe they just decided to honour repairs for the lifetime of the car should it ever occur. Amazing!

That 2015 M5 w/ 72k miles for 19k pounds / 24k USD is insane value. Similar car in US would be 37.5k.

For a DadCar, Volvo S80 V8 or the XC90 V8. Engines by Yamaha. Keep some £ in reserve to fix the little things that will wear out.

From my research before getting my RS5, the consensus was that the 4.2 FSI engines don’t suffer the cam chain issues to the same extent as the earlier 4.2 engines. Only downside is carbon build up which affects all direct injections engines. Mine has done 100k now and (fingers crossed) no cam rattles and no carbon issues - had both checked by a specialist recently. S5 seems a good choice to me.

Ive got a 2012 Xf, 2.2d and its faultless, i go on the motorway once a week to keep the DPF in good order but other than that use it as a daily. It always gets serviced on time at an independent specialist and its been trouble free. Really good MPG is the icing on the cake.

James is right on the S Type - I went to see a low mileage immaculate looking 3.0 Sport and the sills were like French toast under the plastic facades

Great video and great choices! I love these collabs with James you two are perfect together on KZfaq both have almost the same taste in cars which makes it even better to watch. Love it.

Vauxhall XVR8 should be on the sub £20k list. 6.0/6.2 V8, 6 speed manual and a completely mediocre plastic interior so you know it's got it's priorities right!

"As long as it makes the noise it doesn't matter" so true.

I love AutoTrader Games so of course I played long. I love my 2+2 coupes (I own a '08 650i and love it to bits) so my choices are in that area. £5k: Mk 2 Audi TT 3.2 V6. I know it's a heavy engine but it sounds awesome and the Mk 2 TT is gorgeous and before getting my BMW, I was sorely tempted by one (And still would be). I believe it's a reliable engine and decent on fuel so should look the business. £10k: Nissan 350Z/370Z because they're cool as heck IF you can find a good unmodified one. I did think of the XK as well or the R230 Mercedes SL500. I avoid the M/AMG/R/RS models because they keep maintenance down. £20k: Yep, F10 M5 caught my eye; LOT of car for the money, but I also couldn't pass up the opportunity to tout the F12 6-Series. the 640s are fabulous in both petrol and diesel and you can find the 4.4 V8 650i's as well. Obviously XK/XKRs are everywhere and you'd get a absolute mint one for the budget so *should* be lighter on maintenance issues. The other eye-catcher I saw was the Lexus LS-F. It'll definitely be reliable and Lexus is a great option because it's not just another German or Jag. It's sad to see so few interesting cars that aren't German, Jags or Hot Hatches.

You can probably pick up quite a nice BMW Alpina B5 for £20K or less. Decent boot size, will carry 4 adults in supreme comfort, 507 bhp and 0-60 in 4.7 seconds, gorgeous styling and a huge presence on the road. Much rarer than the latest generation M5 too.

Interesting choices for sure! In Germany, unfortunately, you'd pay approximately double (in EUR though) for any of the cars mentioned...

Great video, loved all the recommendations - given me great inspo for the future. I'm currently driving a 03 CLK 500 as my daily driver - bought for £3400 this year. So far has been a great car with only a few manageable quirks!

Another good option is an Alfa Romeo GT. Compared with the Brera, its got good legroom at the back and decent boot space!

Bought a stage 2 VRS from a buddy of mine. Ideal "dad" car, lots of room for me and my family, perfect for grocery getting and family vacations, and lot's of fun teasing some high power factory cars that are expected to be fast.

My understanding is that the timing chain issue was at its worst in the previous gen 4.2 RS4. The 1st gen S5 came with the revised chain guides that did much to address the issue of predominantly plastic chain guides failing over time from the constant heating-up/cool-down cycle in use.

In sub 10k have recently gone for a 2013 c class 350cdi with one owner history. Seems to have a bit of everything, it's quick, economical and comfortable. Kids are very happy in the back.

Sub 20k - Jaguar XE S - It has the amazing V6 you also find in the F-Type, but in a Dad friendly form! Handles amazingly, quick and sounds great! And has the benefit of still being reasonably new with all the useful gadgets. And to add a bit of childishness, it spells sex backwards 😁

5k I would buy a hot hatch like a mk1 Leon cupra r or mk5 gti. jag is a great option at 10k. 20k can't argue with a m5 or s8

Lexus IS F for sub 20K is a bargain V8 for me which is likely to be a future classic

Impreza WRX wagon. We had a 2005 Prodrive version. Ridiculously reliable and epic enjoyment. The wagon is capacious.

Some great choices of cars although anyone would be insane to spend £16k on a 986 Boxster S. you would be able to pick up a 987.1 with a rebuilt engine (that negates any future reliability issues with scoring and/or IMS) or even a 987.2 with the “fixed” 2.9 engine for that money. The 986 S models (as they were derived from the 996 M96 engines) are also more likely to have IMS failures than the 2.5/2.7 engines, particularly if they are low mileage examples. Alternatives in the differing brackets would be: 5k - Audi TT (mk 1 or 2) 10k - Porsche 928 mid/late 90s Merc SL320 20k - BMW g30 520d (maybe even a private sale 530d with a few miles on the clock?)

As a self confessed Alfa nut having owned around 15 of them I’d advise to steer well clear of the 3.2 JTS Brera as they all suffer from stretched timing chains at around 75k miles. Kiss goodbye to over £3K from an Alfa specialist should you be lucky enough to find one the will be willing to do the job for you. The most bizarre story about this variant is it’s the tensioner on the rear bank that is the cause is a GM Holden part that costs around $150 with the chain from OZ. As a result most Alfas head to the scrap yard before their time because the majority of the few specialists out there don’t play fair. Unless you are a good DIY mechanic avoid at all costs as I had a terrible experience with a 159Q4 that went to the scrappy way before its time for reasons mentioned above. For that reason the underpowered 2.2 JTS is the pick of the bunch. 2.4JTDM has been killed by ULEZ

I have a 2012 XF-S 3.0D 56k with fjsh and its been a fantastic daily car. Smooth, comfy, loads of power and looks really good. What more does a guy need as a daily.

Sub £20k: Lexus IS-F Sub £10k: Lexus LS460 Sub £5k: my Lexus IS300 Sportcross:)

Great video guys. I agree with the F10 M5 for £20k. I’d do an e46 330ci for £5k (you’d get a nice one) and a 135i coupe for £10k. Wouldn’t lose much on any and all amazing drives. I may be a BMW fan!

Love the chat about the different price points and all the different reasons. The one that surprised me most was an M5 dipping under £20k which is still relatively new age! But the running costs for these things is what is a killer and most people who can afford the car end up not being able to afford the running and then they get into disrepair and sold on for cheap and tank the market price for them 😢

I was in the same boat and among the interesting cars I shortlisted for under 10k, the most standout was the 2009 Civic type R, which may even be worth similar money if not more when it comes time to sell. Being an old dad myself I chickened out and went for a LR FL2 in HSE spec, gem of a car so far.

What about a VXR8 as a big 4 door saloon with the LS2 engine under the bonnet? For less money, the Mazda MPS models are quick, reliable and fun. For a curve ball, the 350Z and 370Z can give you the muscle car vibe, for not a huge amount. Well built too! I do like your choices though and have been looking at the XKR myself. I think it’s a very underrated grand tourer.

Great video! For me it’s a CLS 500, a SL55 (appreciate they don’t come up often under 10k), and a Cayenne Mk2 4.8 Turbo. Even though if you asked me tomorrow you’d probably get three different cars ha

My brother used to have the 2013 xf 2.2 diesel 200bhp. It had a few issues but the trader kept messing him around about fixing it so he gave it back

great feature and some very interesting ownership propositions. Nice to think of actually owning a car rather than leasing. My suggestion for a why didn’t you pick that car is the saab 9-3 turbo, such a timeless and iconic car but guess the only worry would be maintenance

My dadcar is a 2.2d 2013 XF sportbreak. Engine is solid, but There are a few Electronic Gremlins and to get it through the Tüv (German MOT), I’ve spent about €6000,- on repairs, but that included a new €1500,- headlight unit. I dream about a V8 XK, but I’m doing over 20k miles/ year.

Very interesting options here but don’t forget the rally inspired cars like the Subaru Impreza which can look great and have performance mods for modest outlay. I have owned a 2006 WRX from new which is serviced annually for around £250 at a Subaru independent garage. Apart from the belt changes which tend to be around £400 every 4 years(depending on mileage) they are not too expensive. Will do around 30mpg on a run and low 20’s urban…mine is not an STI but had a £500 remap and a £350 exhaust upgrade and now is just over 270bhp. Can ferry my 5 and 3 year old grandsons around in it and they love it…has a massive boot do is very practical and sounds great…prices range from around £6000 to £15000 depending on condition…

I’ve looked at the Brera several times (I’m on my 3rd Alfa, so a big fan of the marque), but the complete lack of rear legroom makes it a firm no for me. The Alfa GT Coupe, if you can find a good one that hasn’t started to rust through the floorpan, is a better bet. It’s still gorgeous to look at (design by Bertone), has proper seating for 4 (5 at a push), and a huge boot with a tailgate. It’s in effect a 156 coupe. Only problem is that, like the 156 they get through upper wishbones and suspension bushes like other cars get through tyres. Good ones though are an absolute steal.

So I had to have a play with your game. £5k car and started with a Honda Civic Type R 2008 £5150 so easily achievable for £5k. Full Honda history. 1 owner and 80k miles. Fun to drive, reliable and Vtec are a laugh. £10k car I went with a manual V8 BMW 650i convertible. Very rare car again 1 owner, 86k miles and & £8995 so Leaving £1000 for a bit of Maintenance fund. The £20k car as good as the M5 was I went with a AMG SLK55 with the performance pack so no speed limiter bigger brakes and split rim wheels. 36k miles full MB History and also had a SLK55 number plate. Not only that it came in £500 under budget.

So I take a slightly different choice with my car purchases, I only buy cars that are going up in value. I sold my Z4MC which netted me £6k in 2 years, bought a 130i as I was doing a lot more miles. Still probably worth £500 more than I paid after 40k miles on it in 3 years.

Great choices Guys! I always regret selling my 5.0 Griffith years ago and I did love my S5 4.2 but now I have two of your choices, a 3.4 Boxster S and a lovely XF 3 litre D. Happy man 😀

Hoping to buy something for sub £10k in the next year or two, and I'm glad there's so much choice out there. Sub £5k either an XF-S Diesel or a Chrysler 300C, the latter being the more left field option. Sub £10k can get you a Jag XFR (my current preference), the XF SV8, Audi S5 V8/S6 V10 or an Insignia VXR. Sub £20k I'd be looking at a VXR8, or E63 AMG. Great video and excellent to see these affordable but exciting cars getting a well deserved mention. As others have said in the comments, we're actually really lucky in the UK to have such a diverse myriad of 'interesting' cars at affordable prices!

So many choices!! The TVR was unexpected! Very cool cars! I've always fancied a TVR!

Pretty sure the 2.2d in that Jag is just about the most reliable engine you can buy in a JLR product. Basically a Ford Transit engine.

Enjoyed that! Thank you

For sub 20k I am quite tempted by a Lexus IS F. A 5 litre, 400+ bhp saloon that if taken care of will do mega miles reliably......and stick a silly grin on your face at the same time.

i know someone in the trade who sold one to a customer, the guy knew all the laybys and service stations in the midlands after a year, he'd ring my friend up many sunday afternoons and just swear and scream at my mate for selling him the car!! 🤣

TVRs are really cheap on fuel, cos you can so rarely actually drive them!

Consider making the same video but on cars that will be costly to maintain but are such a bargain? ;) greetings from auto KZfaqr in Canada! You guys rock

Some....... Interesting choices there, but I very much agree with the F10 M5! I seriously considered this two changes ago (got another XFR instead) and recently (got a Giulia QF instead) - but there are always some very nice, unmolested F10 M5's about for around £20k, and they seem an utter bargain to me! They don't seem to have the best rep for running costs or to drive, but I think a good one will hold value - I'd love a ride in one to see what they are like. I drive in Europe a fair bit and it would be mighty for that (as my two XFR's were, to be fair). Timing chains are becoming a big issue on a lot of modern direct injection cars, especially V6 and V8, research it on any model and don't be suprised if you end up with a £3k ish engine bill around 60-80k miles. The trouble is, at that point the supercharger/turbocharger (if present) might ideally want some fettling, the water pump for sure, often the injectors as well. And on the suspension, what about the bushes and ARB's and shocks? It can very quickly get out of hand so use your ears when buying! I passed my second XFR on recently at 75k miles as the timing chain was becoming noisy, the supercharger snout ideally needed doing soon, it needed 4 new tyres and had an occasional misfire. Jag's warranty won't fix things on the way out, only if broken, and they told me I'd be paying for the (£1k) investigation on the engine noise. It was cosmetically amazing but I'd rather put that £5k+ towards the next car after 4 years in it - now that car is up for amost twice what I traded it in for, with none of that work done. Research research research!!

Well done lads 😊

Interesting what you said about the leasing and all that. I had a brand new diesel Merc on finance and it was a lovely car don't get me wrong but just never felt connected to it and the engine was kind of boring.. Thing is I was doing a lot of miles and had always wanted a mercedes but then after 4 years and paying off and then paying the last pretty big chunk early I decided to sell it since I was doing less miles now and I thought £350 a month in fuel in a lovely V8 or something wouldn't be a terrible thing. Especially before all electric cars take over in the future. So got my 645Ci now, absolutely loving it it's brilliant, not perfect but it's definitely a great car no doubt about it!

Every single one of those cars would probably bankrupt the average person 😂

Those Jeep Cherokee are good. The 3 litre CDI is all Mercedes running gear in day a 2010 model. You get a power chip tune done, lowered on firm springs they eat motorways!! Also the 4wd off road performance is good. Super ski wagon!

For the £20k i would get a BMW 335D touring, plenty of space, performance and running costs are low. But i am a diesel head lol. The BMW M140i or M340i would also be a great shout if you prefer petrol, straight 6 sounds and not going to break the bank running it

Brera S is still a great car, the lowering makes all the difference in the looks. 2.2 and diesel engines not ideal. 3.2 better, but I bought a 159 TBi and took the engine out of it and put it the Brera. Perfect 😂

I love a 986 boxster but you can get a nice example for like 6/7 grand.. 15 grand for one is mental, can't believe that was jay's choice

Mg zt 260. 4.6 ford Mustang V8 260bhp and rwd. I had mine for 3 years and loved it a nice cruiser but could handle well for such a big car. It was reasonably practical to if you missus the 22mpg. I must have spent about £1500 on it in the 3 years I had on it in terms of maintenance and repairs.

This channel is growing on me! Nice one.

I have a Brera S.... However the 2.2 ... Reasons... 3.2 timing chain is between 2-3 k to replace. The 2.2 is a better steer ( although neither are fantastic) with less weight up front. Mine has been remapped and has had some exhaust work. on the Dyno it made 215 bhp ( 30 over factory) revs to 7500 rpm . Still no rocket ship but entertaining enough and makes a nice noise for a 4cyl. Road tax and fuel are significantly less than the V6. Finally the V6 in the Brera isn't a Busso. If you've previously owned a Busso engined car the GM derived lump is just a disappointment. The 1750 tbi is the sweet spot IF you can find one.

At 20K my 'no brainer' would be a 340i or a 440i. The B58 is such a great engine, in the 3 series you can even find a few wagons under the £20k mark and there's nothing cooler than fast wagons in my book.

XF pet good shout at 5 or even 10 but I was lucky enough to have a Jag XJL autobiography at 22k I paid another 2k for a three year warranty. It was the 3 L diesel but it had 300 brake horsepower. It had every single possible option as standard, and went like the wind. I kept it for free years and then got 17,000 back. As an experience, it was brilliant. as shame to get rid of it, but like any of these things they’re all temporary.

I wanted to pic cars that are fun to drive, but also a bit of a clout at a cars and coffee. All cars have issues, but as a rule you’ll probably be okay and running a cheap performance car - you need to expect bills. Here’s looking at you rod bearings. I also think these cars are relatively depreciation proof - meaning you can get out of them for what you got into them for later on 5k - Clio 182 cup 10k - 986 boxster s 20k - e92 M3 manual

In august i bought a 2011 jaguar xk convertible 5.0 v8 and couldn't be happier

I feel really great. Only 7 minutes in and 2 cars I’ve been looking at for quite some time have been mentioned. Don’t think you could go wrong with an v8 S5 manual or a busso v6 brera

Only a Pom would ever consider a TVR a sensible car, and desirable.

Haha! I guess when someone says "sensible car" I had a different idea, the only one for me is the XF

11k thumbs up, from 14k views?!?! Top drawer content, chaps. Absolutely nailed the pub style chat and got me back on Autotrader.

Im on my 2nd Audi B8 S4 1st was the manual this 1 is S,tronic, and would buy a 3rd as they are that good

Non of you mentioned a BMW F30/F31 335d?!? Not got a great engine sound compared to the ruinous V8's you mention, but very capable (0-60 4.5 /308bhp), very practical dad car, and pretty cheap to run! A proper Q-car!

I would also add a Lexus ISF as a great sub £20k choice. Lovely inside, ultra reliable and quick enough to have some fun! Also not too thirsty for a V8!

I'd love an S5. It would cost less than my current 69 plate A3, but I'd always be worried that someone knew some weird fankled way to nick it.

Bmw645 . Worth less than ten thousand Nz , a lot of bang for buck . Have had to spend 5 k to replace all the variable intake and valve timing gadgets , replaced the wiring to those as well as they break down after 20 years , then it’s back to being a beast !

I had similar thoughts 3 months ago. For under 20k I ended up with 2010 Camaro SS manual.

After listening to my heart and financing the bollocks off a focus ST, this video was very very helpful indeed! 😅

It was James that correctly described the ‘warmth’ that driving a Jag brings that German cars just don’t. Love em

Would love a Jaaag XF (did suggest this to you before you got the GranSport Ben!). Neighbour of mine had an Audi A8 4.2 TDi, beautiful car. For a sub £20k car how about another Audi, the A7? There's a ton of these on Autotrader so should be able to find a good one but not sure if there are any foibles. James will know for sure! Oh and I've entered the raffle 💸

The Jaguar XF- interesting? Not without the V8. Alfa - unreliable and FWD or add-on-FWD-4-Wheel-drive with a heavy engine on the front wheels? Even the beauty of this car doesn't justify it. Audi S5 - nice one there - would recommend the S4 for more useability but "won't ruin you" doesn't apply. Lots of construction sites like the intakes and chains. Jaguar XK - best choice so far. F10 is good - but don't get the V8 or the 4-Cylinders (N20/B47). Get the 30d N57 or the NB53/NB55 30i/35i. 4-Cylinders will die because of the chain issues, V8 is a little more reliable but it will ruin you if something happens and BMW V8s will eventually do so after 100k km. Main bearing shell is one of the most reliable failures on BMW V8s. M5 is an intersting choice. Be aware it will be very costly to maintain and if you don't do so, even more expensive. Boxster - not beautiful but interesting - but be aware, any Skoda Octavia 1.8t with Stage 1 will leave it standing and that is not a fast car. I don't know the prices in the UK but 135i Coupe and 335i E90, Z4 E85 3.0i, Golf Mk4 2.8 VR6 (just watch out for the timing chains!), Alfa Giulia, Ford Mustang 5.0, Golf MK5 GTI Edition 30/Pirelli Edition, Scirocco R, Audi S3, Audi A4 3.0 TDI, Mercedes C W204, Mazda MX5 ...

Surprised we're allowed 2 seaters, but as we are I'd go for sub-10k Z4 Coupe 3.0 si, around 60k miles for that money. Sub-5k, maybe an A3 8p sportback with the 2.0 tfsi engine. Like an estate that shrunk in the wash.

£20k cars: F10 M5, Alfa Giulia Veloce, RS4 Avant 2013-14, 5.0 V8 Jaguar XJ, Audi S8, BMW 760Li, 2010 Lancer Evo X, Audi S7/RS7 £10k cars: Audi S5, Audi S4, BMW X5 3.0 40d, BMW 535d F10, Merc E500 V8, Golf GTI, Golf GTD, Leon Cupra £5k cars: Alfa Giulietta Cloverleaf, Jaguar XF

Dad cars and a Brera? Wtf. I had a 2.0 jtdm 159 ti SW and it was brilliant. Got it cheap on 150k and it ran for 5 years up to 230 before it died. Brilliant car.

Xf 2.2 is solid it's the xe 2.0 inginium that's shit

Ik kocht 5 jaar geleden mijn S Type 4.0 v8 voor 2500€/2500€ kost om de wagen terug in top conditie te brengen. Jaarlijkse kost 500€ onderhoud. Niet zo slecht denk ik? Het geluid is GEWELDIG. Op de snelweg een zaligheid. 11 L/100km! Interieur is niet zo geweldig 😅, maar zetels dan weer wel. Ik rij ermee,tot hij is weggeroest.😂 De motor is geweldig,na herstelling time change. In mijn ocen een zeer betrouwbare V8,en qua stijl,Molier dan de XF😊

How about a BMW 435D. 4WD, great on fuel, & huge torque. The coupe with the boot or the GT with the hatch. Good looking yet subtle.

Sub £20k - surely a 6.0 W12 Bentley Continental GT (there's even a few Flying Spurs about) - you can get them 12-15k and then fix whatever is bust...

was it not the 2 litre ingenium engine and not the 2.2 ?? ( jag ) that had issues ??

BMW M5 , the F10 is a brilliant car. And pay the £70 to get the idrive updated to real time info and that is literally winning

I prefer a cool sensible car over a sensible cool car

16:00 I'd say the TVR is a safer bet than the Boxster, engine wise! The 986 and 987 generation Porsche's are a demonstration of "German engineering" being not all that.

Jaguar XJ 3.0 diesel in portfolio spec By far the best family car I have ever owned and having had lots of BMWs Audis and Mercs the jag just felt more special.

An old TVR!? Lovely looking things, but is there a faster road to ruin? 5k or less MK2 Focus ST3?

You’re welcome to use my Volvo C70 MY07 for a review on your channel if you’re interested. It’s my school run car for my two Boys 7 & 4 years old, great fun for the boys when the roof is down on the way to school. Works great in the winter as well because of the Hard Top convertible roof which makes it a very usable car all year around. Hopefully i can add an Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio this August for my 40th. Loved your review on it 👌🏼👌🏼

Ok Odd ball for sub 5k Mercedes CLK 350. Has the new engine in and the 7speed auto, get a choice of coupe or convertible. 🤔

Hi Ben. Hope your doing good. I loved the video.

Surprised to see the xk for that price .. I am browsing later 4.2 xk8 coupes for between 5 and 8k. I am not allowed 4.2 s type as it’s an “old man car” 😂

That M5 steals the show