International Skylab - Episode 1 - If History Had Gone Differently (Kerbal Space Program

International Skylab - Episode 1 - If History Had Gone Differently (Kerbal Space Program - RSS/RO)

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In this first episode we review the history behind the first International space station - the international Skylab. Combining a US Skylab station with Soviet Salyut 4, the International Skylab was an actual proposal - so what would have happened if history had gone differently?
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Animations: Kerbal Space Program 1.1.3

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@TBone-bz9mp 5 жыл бұрын

Personal request: since this is an alternate history, could we see a Buran docked to international skylab?

@CallsignRedKale 5 жыл бұрын

I approve the idea !

@josiahclinch6219 5 жыл бұрын

I SECOND THAT REQUEST. have both class of space shuttles dock to this thing.

@TBone-bz9mp 5 жыл бұрын

Also, I’d love it if in this timeline ‘Skylab’ entered the nomenclature instead of ‘space station’ as the name for manned orbital outposts

@kevincgustafson 5 жыл бұрын

I'll do my best.

@TBone-bz9mp 5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Gustafson Your videos are fantastic, keep up the good work.

@eduluz5577 5 жыл бұрын

I love the "If History Had Gone Differently" episodes

@icecube4702 5 жыл бұрын

Marvel: Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover is history. Kevin Gustafson: Hold my booster!

@stuartyoung4182 5 жыл бұрын

Fantastic visualization of such a missed opportunity: an International Space Station, at a tenth of the cost and twenty years earlier - and a destination for the Shuttle from the very beginning of that program.

@HalNordmann 2 жыл бұрын

But sadly, post-Apollo funding went brrrr

@oberonpanopticon 8 ай бұрын

@@HalNordmannexcept that if there’d been some (unrealistic amounts of) international cooperation and planning this could’ve been almost the same cost as what actually happened, the only difference being the quad-docking module

@thierry9592 5 жыл бұрын

fantastic work. highly underrated channel

@kaiserredgamer8943 5 жыл бұрын

I have an idea: A European German station "Columbus-Adler" will dock, representing the EU, and the East Asian module of China, Korea, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, and Philippines will dock, as the "Orient Segment". An international multidocking port module may be placed on top, so that more spacecraft will dock, and a robotic arm may also be installed. At the bottom there can be a fixed weather instruments' module to forecast Earth weather. A fuel tank can be placed below, too.

@HalNordmann 5 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's a lot of ideas.

@geofisika8838 4 жыл бұрын

*Hello Dorfplatz*

@MrCubFan415 Жыл бұрын

More like “Asian Segment”. The term “Orient” is apparently considered somewhat racist due to its usage in American propaganda from WWII.

@AluminumOxide 5 жыл бұрын

Wow, cool concept! Reminds me of my KSP version of the International Skylab space station (christened Skylab II)

@DemoR 5 жыл бұрын

I'd suggest posting these under the "fan works" section on the forums. I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in this stuff, so posting it there would allow more people to see it without having to rely on "the algorithm"

@kevincgustafson 5 жыл бұрын

Great idea. Done

@dwmzmm 5 жыл бұрын

Great video and concept! Back in the 1970's, while still just a high school and college student, I've often thought of similar ways of joint US - Soviet missions as well. Much to be shared and gained.

@t65bx25 5 жыл бұрын

_What is this, a crossover episode?_

@koolgame224 4 жыл бұрын

Zeta0001 r/woooosh

@alexchivilev 5 жыл бұрын

Lol, it could be a prequel for my video of joint soviet-american Venus mission :)

@kevincgustafson 5 жыл бұрын

Love that video.

@MikeMaris 5 жыл бұрын

In this scenario, are both nations still using different air systems like with Apollo-Soyuz ?

@thefinalfrontier318 4 жыл бұрын

They probably would've reached a middle ground on what air system to use, it would be very annoying to have to sit in an airlock to transfer to the Soviet modules

@reddeath4242 5 жыл бұрын

Man that Saturn IB launch was gorgeous. I love these alternate history videos, fantastic work

@tvdjeda 5 жыл бұрын

I really love your videos and I would like to show them to more people. Can you please enable the community translation options, so I can translate your videos to Serbian and share them with more people.

@shadybirch8853 5 жыл бұрын

Bro amazing your mir and Skylab series amazing just truly awe inspiring and your should get more credit for this top-of-the-table work and I am glad to give you a subscription

@Ethan_Golph 5 жыл бұрын

Hello there Kevin, you see ? KZfaq recommendation finally made a good job ! I've discovered you trough it and ho boy i was not disapointed ! I love your story telling, the camera works and cinematic is superb, and editing is on point ! You got yourself a brand new subscriber and i cannot wait for the next episode allready ! This is quality stuff ! Cheers and be safe in space my friend :)

@longlakeshore 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Oh what's could have been & should have been.

@kevincgustafson 3 жыл бұрын

Hope you like the rest of the series

@benbunch4159 4 жыл бұрын

That docking maneuver seems fairly complex in real life, especially to Skylab. Thrusters not aligned with center of mass and no clear way to align things optically.

@amindofiron 5 жыл бұрын

Your work is exceptional, some of the very best I've ever seen in terms of production value and skill to say nothing of the storytelling involved. When/if you finish this series you might look into the US airforce's X-20/blue Gemini/Manned Orbital Laboratory programs. They would make an excellent alternate history series.

@Ryotenian7826 3 жыл бұрын

I mever realize how massive skylab was next to salyut, its really did need a Saturn V to reach LEO, had to be the biggest single launched station ever

@josiahclinch6219 5 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! I ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE THIS MISSION.

@station240 5 жыл бұрын

Nicely done, can't wait for part 2.

@craiggilchrist4223 5 жыл бұрын

Very Majestic, wish my KSP looked so good. Can you put a list of mods you have used please. Great vid.

@jaytheamazing197 5 жыл бұрын

I just did this recently, although in stock using BDB and Tantares, but this a step far above what I did. Awesome stuff dude.

@floppa7129 Жыл бұрын

I Just need A Gif For a Slander, And this is perfect!

@floppa7129 Жыл бұрын

We all know This is a joke

@Donnelly_412 5 жыл бұрын

This is easily my new favorite channel, such good content and research!

@FeverDev64 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love the commentary and the presentation!

@jkturbine6539 5 жыл бұрын

Really enjoy your content, great work!

@JeffBomer 5 жыл бұрын

Great job... Love the If Only....

@DemoR 5 жыл бұрын

Great work as always! 👌

@ropshubop 5 жыл бұрын

I can't believe how fast you're putting out content.

@bassboylowg 5 жыл бұрын

Subscribed, awesome content!

@dasvasker4109 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing work

@carlosfavrettomoreno1134 5 жыл бұрын

Hubiera sido impresionante si la historia hubiera sucedido diferente. La unión de esfuerzos siempre da mejores resultados. Disfruto mucho estos vídeos. Saludos desde Uruguay. It would be amazing if History had gone differently. The union of endeavours Always gives better results. I enjoy a lot this vídeos! Greetings from Uruguay.

@cathix0032 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Wonder what it would look like if all stations survived and put together. Salyut, Almaz, Skylab, Tiangong, Mir and the current ISS.

@theswagman1263 5 жыл бұрын

Frankenstation

@agtshaw 5 жыл бұрын

It would probably look cool if it didnt have 1500 parts

@kevincgustafson 5 жыл бұрын

Guess you'll have to wait and see

@ColinPaddock 5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Gustafson Tease.

@ikujura7645 5 жыл бұрын

YES I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS, THANK YOU

@Tramseskumbanan 4 жыл бұрын

I really miss the orbiter space flight simulator. I haven’t played it for almost ten years.

@nickolaysosnitsky3420 5 жыл бұрын

Great job! Can you share craft files, please? Lot of us want to repeat this, but don't have your skills.

@flack3 5 жыл бұрын

Love your videos! keep them coming!

@nashpeleuses Жыл бұрын

Idea request: if Apollo was still in use today (you know, like how the Soyuz is).

@Makoto778 5 жыл бұрын

I think the Skylab A's orbital inclination is approximately 50 degrees, while the soviets preferred the 51.4 degree inclination. I wonder how much delta-v would it have taken to shift the orbital inclination by 1.4 degrees.....

@AluminumOxide 5 жыл бұрын

Around 450 m/s

@Makoto778 5 жыл бұрын

@@AluminumOxide Thank you. I was thinking it would be roughly there. So 450 m/s would definitely require a tug of some sort if we wanted to move Skylab. Also to note, Soyuz has a delta-v of 390 m/s and Space Shuttle (full payload) has a delta-v of 300m/s. So neither spacecraft can visit both Skylab and Salyut. Apollo CSM should be able to easily do the inclination change as it has a significantly larger delta-v even if only half fuelled.

@MrCubFan415 Жыл бұрын

@@Makoto778 This mission would have used the second Skylab module that, IIRC, went to a museum IRL.

@Makoto778 Жыл бұрын

@@MrCubFan415 Yes I'm aware of that. Just a thought if it was possible to 'reuse' the original Skylab instead of launching a new one.

@jimwestlake4342 5 жыл бұрын

Way cool! Nailed what could have been.

@albertpietrosanu2667 3 жыл бұрын

Good job!

@steveshoemaker6347 5 жыл бұрын

SUPER...well done...SUPER...Thanks so much..Beautiful stuff...To ...!

@AmusedWalrus 5 жыл бұрын

Another great video :)

@clarkheredia5058 3 жыл бұрын

Pls do a Skylab moon mission this was a concept to put a Skylab station around the moon.

@oberonpanopticon 8 ай бұрын

Skylab-Salyut would’ve been fun to see IRL. Unfortunately, politics.

@davegoodridge8352 5 жыл бұрын

Would have been great

@leonardholmin8431 4 жыл бұрын

Am I correct that the US Skylab was the FIRST to have a multiple docking adapter, if only one extra port for emergencies, BEFORE the development of the Russian Mir station block (which did have four extra ports on its docking node)?

@MrCubFan415 9 ай бұрын

FYI this video is alternate history from roughly the 4 minute mark onwards.

@leonardholmin8431 9 ай бұрын

Thanks. Yes, understood. But the real world Skylab seems to have been the first ever to introduce an airlock with more than one docking port, so that a second Apollo CSM could dock when the crews rotated. The later Russian Mir famously introduced FOUR extra docking ports to form the now familiar "node". Their earlier Salyut had only one on the nose, and maybe one on the tail. It also seems that nobody, not even the US, had docking and transfer before Apollo CSM/LM. Gemini could dock nose to nose but not transfer crew. The animation and concept here are great. Certainly the actual International Space Station itself would have been unthinkable during the Cold War. If only countries could get along so well down HERE! LH

@mathieugariepy2948 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@Bartekkru100 5 жыл бұрын

This is amazing!

@zackboone15 3 жыл бұрын

Little tidbits of (in)accuracy. Due to the Soyuz 11 accident, the rest of the plain numbered Soyuz (38 being the last in 1980 for Salyut 6) carried only two cosmonauts because they could not fit 3 wearing pressure suits. Only once Soyuz T was flying could they have 3 cosmonauts again. Our Joint Expedition 1 would only have 5 members. Also, I don't think they would have let a cosmonaut stay on Salyut (especially pre-two ports) to dock it to Skylab. Thankfully for us, Salyut could maneuver on its own. I'm sure they could have rigged a TV camera up somewhere to accomplish it.

@sailingyemaya9781 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video graphics 💖🏅

@MrCubFan415 Жыл бұрын

Hopefully Skylab B would be filled with normal air instead of pure oxygen

@apollo5668 3 жыл бұрын

I like how it says"Zarya" instead of Salyut

@jamesmorrow9093 5 жыл бұрын

I think what they should have done is launched one more mission to the Moon with a Russian cosmonaut a joint russian-american moon landing I think that would have been a lot more impressive and interesting to the public. And the Russian people👍👍

@TairnKA 5 жыл бұрын

If only. I hope to see the development and launch of a Independent Propulsion Spacecraft, getting away from orbital mechanics and the time wasted in the several steps to rendezvous.

@Guywithacow Жыл бұрын

Maybe i wouldnt have been born had it like blown up or something

@awsumguy-bh9pz 3 жыл бұрын

suggestion: what if in the 70s after apollo was supposed to end the soviets and americans did a joint moon landing called the saturn N1 test project this assumes even though america still landed on the moon first in 1969 the soviets managed to land a man too. This could evolve to where america and the soviets build and international moon base or space station.

@Detailedstream 5 жыл бұрын

Good idea sir how about we should call it Gateway Apollo Skylab hopefully going to be one way trip to the moon

@skyearthocean5815 4 жыл бұрын

Man they left a lot of third stages in orbit didn't they?

@CloroxBleach-sz6bg 5 жыл бұрын

What model did you use for the Saturn v and skylab

@pyrusrex2882 5 жыл бұрын

I love KSP. Only in KSP does your hypergolic exhaust produce mach balls.

@tgdm 5 жыл бұрын

I love your videos, but holy crap does the piano music tend to pull on the heartstrings for me.

@quantumx9729 5 жыл бұрын

Good video but one does not really know whats real and whats not

@patricklenigan4309 4 жыл бұрын

Really quick...what mod are you using for the proton rocket?

@chefkawrg 5 жыл бұрын

What part mods do you use? They look amazing and I’d love to use them myself

@kevincgustafson 5 жыл бұрын

Many of them a radiernicks parts

@chefkawrg 5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Gustafson thanks :)

@graham7402 5 жыл бұрын

Do you no the name of the soyuz and other soviet modes that you have?

@kevincgustafson 5 жыл бұрын

Google is your friend - forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/142830-rockets-and-spacecrafts-kerbalxspacex/

@kaiserredgamer8943 5 жыл бұрын

21:25 wth thats zarya З=Z, A=A, P=R, Я=YA ZARYA Salyut is Салют

@ColinPaddock 5 жыл бұрын

Zarya?

@GoldenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын

What mod for Skylab?

@AluminumOxide 5 жыл бұрын

RN Skylab "github.com/KSP-RO/Skylab"

@PsychiatricHospitaI 5 жыл бұрын

Can i have the all modules and plan of station?

@JustABavariaball 2 жыл бұрын

Soo... International skylab is saylut 1 do kiedy to skylab

@dosmastrify 5 жыл бұрын

14:40 how do they adjust for the center of mass being offset?

@Jimfoxyboy 5 жыл бұрын

RCS would translate the craft sideways, but in doing so, yes, the offset mass would cause some rotational movement. The RCS system would additionally be able to cancel out said rotation as well. They would be going very slowly anyways, so its easier to compensate.

@jordanhazen7761 5 жыл бұрын

Docking that combined CSM+adapter stack sideways to the Skylab at 17:30 seems like the trickier problem. Would the standard RCS quads have had enough control authority?

@Jimfoxyboy 5 жыл бұрын

Later missions going out to the moon, the LEM docked on the nose of the CSM weighed as much as 36200lbs (16400kg). The RCS was able to rotate the two craft around so the CSM main engine could fire in the right positions.

@KnedlikMCPE 4 жыл бұрын

Is there a good ksp mod for either mir, ISS or DSG that is for 1.7.3 RO?

@kevincgustafson 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think so

@jesusthesecond4759 5 жыл бұрын

what is the mod for the soyuz ?

@jairofthecosmos5022 4 жыл бұрын

Turtles

@BeepBeepImAShep 4 жыл бұрын

Are you playing k goes p

@BeepBeepImAShep 4 жыл бұрын

Ksp

@BeepBeepImAShep 4 жыл бұрын

Yup

@jaycemacinnis2228 3 жыл бұрын

I'd ather Skylab 2

@tinroofy5090 4 жыл бұрын

What mod do you get the IDM

@tinroofy5090 4 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling that it is procedural parts (Im'a give it a try)

@kevincgustafson 4 жыл бұрын

@@tinroofy5090 that's exactly right.

@brianarbenz7206 5 жыл бұрын

Notice how the two great space powers were also the nations either where people stood in line for food, or which had the highest high school drop out and teen pregnancy rates. The USSR and the USA had two of the three highest rates of imprisoning their own people in the world. Both had seriously deficient health care systems. One had the worst alcohol addiction problem, the other the worst drug addiction problem. We both lost the Earth race.

@Flynnius 5 жыл бұрын

Do you seriously think the funds either space agency was allotted would have solved any of those problems? Also, thanks for the input on a video NOT AT ALL related to those topics. We are a bunch of space nerds who have dreams.

@vegasspaceprogram6623 3 жыл бұрын

Dude this is the safest comment. Solely because of the fact he thought the funds allocated to the space agency could help in any way

@mr_thunderworldgames3116 Жыл бұрын

Так ведь союз и тем более салют не стыковались со скайлэбом что за росказни

@ChessieSystem2101 3 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the footage?

@kevincgustafson 3 жыл бұрын

Of?

@ChessieSystem2101 3 жыл бұрын

The Soyuz docked with skylab

@kevincgustafson 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChessieSystem2101 the animations are made with Kerbal space program

@ChessieSystem2101 3 жыл бұрын

I mean when they are inside the station.

@kevincgustafson 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChessieSystem2101 that's not inside Skylab invite, since no soviets were ever in Skylab. It's from a salyut mission.

@askhowiknow5527 4 жыл бұрын

I wish this would've happened. If the Soviet Union and the US were closer by the time the Soviet Union collapsed, there'd probably be a better government in Russia today.